Operation Save Big Dog

[tyke1962]

would test cricket survive in england and across the world without the bbc and its world service?

The last time the BBC covered test cricket on television it was introduced by Peter West and Jim Laker did the commentary .

The radio team could easily be hired by anybody to cover the game with the format remaining .

[SydneyRover]

would test cricket survive in england and across the world without the bbc and its world service?

The last time the BBC covered test cricket on television it was introduced by Peter West and Jim Laker did the commentary .

The radio team could easily be hired by anybody to cover the game with the format remaining .

yes they could tyke, but they would only continue it if making a profit, that's the important bit.

[River Don]

would test cricket survive in england and across the world without the bbc and its world service?

The last time the BBC covered test cricket on television it was introduced by Peter West and Jim Laker did the commentary .

The radio team could easily be hired by anybody to cover the game with the format remaining .

Would the format remain though?

There is always commercial pressure to focus more on shorter, more easily digestible forms of the game.

[DonnyOsmond]

The BBC has been poor for choice for many years. It largely caters to the 50+ audience. The only thing I find worthwhile watching is Peaky Blinders, but it's not worth £13 a month.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

would test cricket survive in england and across the world without the bbc and its world service?

The last time the BBC covered test cricket on television it was introduced by Peter West and Jim Laker did the commentary .

The radio team could easily be hired by anybody to cover the game with the format remaining .

yes they could tyke, but they would only continue it if making a profit, that's the important bit.

Talksport have frequently had it and done it on radio and online.

Overall there's a better model to fund the BBC.

[SydneyRover]

would test cricket survive in england and across the world without the bbc and its world service?

The last time the BBC covered test cricket on television it was introduced by Peter West and Jim Laker did the commentary .

The radio team could easily be hired by anybody to cover the game with the format remaining .

yes they could tyke, but they would only continue it if making a profit, that's the important bit.

Talksport have frequently had it and done it on radio and online.

Overall there's a better model to fund the BBC.

Is it pud, will they be able to fund all the other services the bbc provide?

[River Don]

What is the better model to fund the BBC?

[tyke1962]

would test cricket survive in england and across the world without the bbc and its world service?

The last time the BBC covered test cricket on television it was introduced by Peter West and Jim Laker did the commentary .

The radio team could easily be hired by anybody to cover the game with the format remaining .

Would the format remain though?

There is always commercial pressure to focus more on shorter, more easily digestible forms of the game.

It worked well enough for me on Channel four and Sky .

In fact both have considerably improved the product .

TMS is a bit of a national institution I get that .

However it's the presenters not the platform which makes it special .

Tuffers and Agnew would just be the same on any platform in my opinion .

[roversdude]

would test cricket survive in england and across the world without the bbc and its world service?

Well it seems to have died this winter SR - what an embarrassing performance

[BillyStubbsTears]

The BBC remind me of the Nottinghamshire miners.

Cosied up to a Tory Govt to protect themselves.

Then discarded and left to rot when they are no longer of use.

[roversdude]

It wasn’t just Notts miners BST, they promised to look after people who returned to work in Yorkshire too, soon cut them adrift. We had a returner at Yorkshire Main who got moved to Hatfield straight after the strike. He was ok until they shut YM and transferred lads to Hatfield and they pointed out that he was a scab

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

What is the better model to fund the BBC?

Probably some sort of split I'd say. So partially fund it out of general taxation for the educational and news services then a commercial arm that becomes more self funding for the drama, sport etc eg advertisements, semi subscription based for some things etc.

You could also apply a small levy on the subscription services to generate funds for the educational and news elements also.

The point is the media market has changed yet the BBC hasn't adapted alongside that.  In some ways it's actually detrimental having the public funding as they cannot compete in the market on certain salaries or for purchasing externally made dramas etc.

[SydneyRover]

The BBC remind me of the Nottinghamshire miners.

Cosied up to a Tory Govt to protect themselves.

Then discarded and left to rot when they are no longer of use.

I don't see, hear or read enough to accurately state an opinion on bias but it's often stated about the ABC that if both sides are complaining they have it about right. It's unforgiveable for them to be inaccurate in news or docs.

[DonnyOsmond]

They probably are fairly bias free overall. There is the odd story here and there where they slip to one side but overall they're quite good.

[BillyStubbsTears]

The BBC remind me of the Nottinghamshire miners.

Cosied up to a Tory Govt to protect themselves.

Then discarded and left to rot when they are no longer of use.

I don't see, hear or read enough to accurately state an opinion on bias but it's often stated about the ABC that if both sides are complaining they have it about right. It's unforgiveable for them to be inaccurate in news or docs.

There's been a conveyor belt for 10 years taking people from the Tory party media machine into top BBC management and back again.

Allegra Stratton is the most high profile recent example, but there are loads of others.

Robbie Gibb was May's communications Director. He's now on the BBC Board.

The BBC Chair is a major Tory party donor.

The BBC Director General is an ex-Tory constituency Chair.

Craig Oliver ran the BBC's coverage of the 2010 General Election and within 8 months was Cameron's spin doctor.

Guto Harri was the BBC's chief political correspondent, then left and took up a post as Johnson's soon doctor when he was London Mayor.

There's been nothing remotely like this on the Left.

[SydneyRover]

Must admit now you say that bst there has been a push to appoint 'favourites' and circumnavigate the supposedly independent selection process to the ABC board, although that did backfire spectacularly when the PMs hand picked chair got severely stuck into him last year.

[drfchound]

They probably are fairly bias free overall. There is the odd story here and there where they slip to one side but overall they're quite good.

Agreed DO.
No news channel can get it 100% right all of the time.
I have to laugh sometimes though that certain posters slag off the bbc on a regular basis but occasionally highlight an article from them when it suits the rhetoric.
A bit like believing that lying scumbag Dominic Cummings now that he has changed sides.

[SydneyRover]

is it why? are the two related?

[SydneyRover]

''The BBC is facing its biggest funding threat yet — and there are parallels to the ABC''

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-18/bbc-cuts-biggest-threat-yet/100762190

[SydneyRover]

Sleep well all, more gun and fames in the morning no doubt, here's a reminder of johnson being interviewed about his appointment of Nadine Dorries to the post of culture secretary Sept 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkk9DI-8el4

[BillyStubbsTears]

This from the man who used to run polling for No10.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jamesjohnson252/status/1482739732723515396

It's stunning that so many of these people have only just realised they put a lifelong pathological liar into power. But they've realised now. What a f**king mess.

[SydneyRover]

Maybe it's about time journalists from all camps should stop accepting 'A #10 spokesperson said or worse #10 said' as though #10 is an entity. Those in #10 should not be allowed to hide behind anonymity, get a bloody name!

''Asked about Cummings’s latest claims, a No 10 spokesperson pointed to an earlier statement, saying: “It is untrue that the prime minister was warned about the [20 May] event in advance. As he said … he believed implicitly that this was a work event. He has apologised to the house and is committed to making a further statement once the investigation concludes.”''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/17/boris-johnson-lied-about-lockdown-party-dominic-cummings-claims

[Filo]

This from the man who used to run polling for No10.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jamesjohnson252/status/1482739732723515396

It's stunning that so many of these people have only just realised they put a lifelong pathological liar into power. But they've realised now. What a f**king mess.

Is that the sound of a penny dropping?

[SydneyRover]

This from the man who used to run polling for No10.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jamesjohnson252/status/1482739732723515396

It's stunning that so many of these people have only just realised they put a lifelong pathological liar into power. But they've realised now. What a f**king mess.

Is that the sound of a penny dropping?

It could well be Filo ................... introducing ta-da ‘'Operation Rinka’'

'‘Operation Rinka’: rebel Tories up pressure on Boris Johnson to resign
Nicknamed after dog shot in Thorpe affair, plan afoot to oust PM over Downing Street parties scandal''

While Downing Street insiders have reportedly devised a plan to sack officials and save Johnson, referred to as “Operation Save Big Dog”, some Tory MPs are stepping up pressure on colleagues to submit letters of no confidence in the prime minister.

One backbencher nicknamed the campaign to oust Johnson Operation Rinka after the great dane shot dead on Exmoor in 1975 – an incident that eventually led to the Liberal leader Jeremy Thorpe standing trial for conspiracy to murder''

Those that have their X in the bottom right of the voting compass may be getting a little nervous.

PS: and another link to history ..........

''in what was known as the "Night of the Long Knives". Thorpe's comment—"Greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his friends for his life"—was widely regarded in the press as the most apt verdict on the prime minister''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorpe_affair

[BillyStubbsTears]

It's ironic that the man who is a lifelong pathological liar will, if the system works as it should, see his political career end because he lied in Parliament when Starmer put him on the spot.

One of the oldest truisms in politics is "it's not the original error that finishes careers: it's the botched cover-up."

Johnson could have possibly rode out this scandal if he'd just come out at the start with the line he took last week. That his judgement was that they were having drinks with work, but he now realises that was a huge error.

His problem is that he lied to Parliament when asked if these events had happened. Because that's what he does when put on the spot. He lies instinctively. As easily as he breathes.

 Even Raab said today on the radio that lying to Parliament is a resigning issue.

I accept that the Tories will be electorally stronger with him gone. But I still want him gone, hung out to dry and humiliated. Because it is vital that we demonstrate that a lifetime of lying leads you off the edge of the cliff.

[selby]

  Blair  hasn't done bad out of lying BST, and his lies cost live's.

[Filo]

  Blair  hasn't done bad out of lying BST, and his lies cost live's.

But, but……. What about…….

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Even if Boris goes, he'll probably get another job somewhere else on loads of money and bring out some memoirs or a book or something that thick tw*ts will buy. So it's a win / win for him. The thing about these narcissists is that they could spend the rest of their lives living with a tarnished political reputation, but just like their terms in office - they don't actually give a toss.

[selby]

 Filo to the rescue and a job to suit his image, a brush to sweep it under the bed.
 Us lefties don't talk about things like that do we Filo?

[SydneyRover]

Selby taking over from bb trying desperately to take the conversation away from his lying hero.