Is there a link between Brexit voters and Anti-Vaxxers?

[TheDonnyPop]

Just curious what others think.

[Colin C No.3]

Yes.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

The point being?

[Colin C No.3]

No.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Well, such a question could be asked about anything if is intended to prove a stereotypical, lazy judgement.

Such as, is there a link between people who like rap music and people who practice the sexualization of women and rampant misogyny?

Is there a link between Millwall fans and hardcore footy hooliganism? (Sorry Axholme  )

Is there a link between people who went to posh private schools and Conservative party members?

Could be at this lunacy all day really.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Also, please define 'anti-vaxx'.

Hoopefully you aren't one of these basic people who label everyone who doesn't want the vaccine, for whatever reason as 'anti vaxx'.

Reasons for someone not taking the vaccine are numerous and range from concerns about the safety of the vaccine and feelings that an individual simply has a health profile that a vaccine wouldn't be required for to someone thinking that there are microchips in the vaccine or the vaccine rollout is some sort of worldwide plan by reptilian alien species.

Arguably the latter examples are at the more extreme end of the spectrum but people in the UK have perfectly reasonable reasons for not taking the vaccine that has nothing to do with Brexit or a certain leaning towards a political way of thinking. As i am taking your post to suggest?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Yes and no.

No: Brexit voters disproportionately were old. Old people have generally taken the vaccine.

Yes: some of the far-right Kitsons pushing the anti-vax line are the same Kitsons who pushed Brexit. For the same reason. It's in their political interests to cause chaos, and if folk get hurt, so much the better because that'll lead to more unfocussed anger to exploit.

[BillyStubbsTears]

In America on the other hand there is a huge link between Trump voter share and refusal to be vaccinated.

[wilts rover]

Yes - there is research paper on it which shows a clear link between lower covid infecton and death rates and remain voting areas

In the paper, ‘Brexit & Covid-19 Death Rates’, Professor Phalippou and Dr Wu study the extent to which the number of Covid-19 cases and deaths across 300 Local Authority Districts in England, is correlated to the 2016 Brexit vote.

Professor Phalippou commented:

‘There may be a cultural divide between groups of people who accept and those who reject, the advice of experts, be that on Brexit, non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) such as wearing masks, or on vaccines. Our results suggest a need for designing incentive schemes that account for different cultures and belief systems. Scientific prowess - such as finding an effective vaccine – may not be sufficient to solve this crisis.’

https://www.sbs.ox.ac.uk/news/new-research-highlights-link-between-brexit-voting-and-covid-19-death-rates

[Nudga]

I didn't vote for brexit and I am not an anti vaxxer

[Branton Red]

From purely personal experience the answer to the question is a resounding no. In fact I've found it's quite the reverse - a link between young Remain voters and Anti-Vax sentiments.

Oh for the chance to be young, free but rather stupid again!

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Well no.  52% voted to leave the EU, something like 80%+ have had vaccines. What a nonsense divisive topic.

[tyke1962]

What a ridiculous thread .

[DonnyNoel]

Don't get the reasoning behind the question but to reply, as others have seen, no. The age voting of brexit and the age of vaccine take up doesn't back up your "curiosity".

As an aside, irrespective of whether Brexit was 52:48 or 48:52 and vaccine take up is 80:20 or 20:80 it becomes hugely divisive to portray the other side to which you are on as making those decisions out of nothing but stupidity, it just stifles debate as people become more entrenched in their opinion if they think they are being insulted.

[normal rules]

Stupid question.
Unless I’m missing something.

[foxbat]

the 17 million that voted Leave are nowhere near 52% of the population.

[normal rules]

Those that didn’t vote cannot complain.

[glosterred]

the 17 million that voted Leave are nowhere near 52% of the population.

Don’t blame those that voted leave, blame those that didn’t vote at all

[belton rover]

This question, as far as I can see, can only be another vehicle for certain posters to have a sideswipe at those who make decisions that other’s disagree with. I’m just surprised that these anti-vaccs, Brexiteers haven’t been linked to Boris supporters.
Having said that, Trump supporters have been thrown into the mix, so we’re nearly there.

[wilts rover]

Yes - there is research paper on it which shows a clear link between lower covid infecton and death rates and remain voting areas

In the paper, ‘Brexit & Covid-19 Death Rates’, Professor Phalippou and Dr Wu study the extent to which the number of Covid-19 cases and deaths across 300 Local Authority Districts in England, is correlated to the 2016 Brexit vote.

Professor Phalippou commented:

‘There may be a cultural divide between groups of people who accept and those who reject, the advice of experts, be that on Brexit, non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) such as wearing masks, or on vaccines. Our results suggest a need for designing incentive schemes that account for different cultures and belief systems. Scientific prowess - such as finding an effective vaccine – may not be sufficient to solve this crisis.’

https://www.sbs.ox.ac.uk/news/new-research-highlights-link-between-brexit-voting-and-covid-19-death-rates

I have no idea why the OP asked the question, but I find it fascinating that people have ignored this post and the evidence within it.

I gues we are now in a post-factual world where people only see what they want to believe - and you can see where that leads on other threads.

[SydneyRover]

Which leads to the question is there a link between anti-facters and brexit?

damn, missed a trick there, should have said anti-faxxers aye?

[Axholme Lion]

Yes - there is research paper on it which shows a clear link between lower covid infecton and death rates and remain voting areas

In the paper, ‘Brexit & Covid-19 Death Rates’, Professor Phalippou and Dr Wu study the extent to which the number of Covid-19 cases and deaths across 300 Local Authority Districts in England, is correlated to the 2016 Brexit vote.

Professor Phalippou commented:

‘There may be a cultural divide between groups of people who accept and those who reject, the advice of experts, be that on Brexit, non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) such as wearing masks, or on vaccines. Our results suggest a need for designing incentive schemes that account for different cultures and belief systems. Scientific prowess - such as finding an effective vaccine – may not be sufficient to solve this crisis.’

https://www.sbs.ox.ac.uk/news/new-research-highlights-link-between-brexit-voting-and-covid-19-death-rates

Maybe the remain areas are wealthier so their voters saw no reason to change the status quo?

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Well we are out of Europe now yet hundreds of migrants are still piling onto beaches in Kent and Sussex every day. So those who thought the immigration issue would be sorted and managed more appropriately was very much mistaken. Including myself. 

The only good thing to come out of Brexit is the fact that we aren't still treated like diseased pieces of Covid scum as most Governments around Europe seem to be doing with their citizens.

[wilts rover]

The only good thing to come out of Brexit is the fact that we aren't still treated like diseased pieces of Covid scum as most Governments around Europe seem to be doing with their citizens.

Is it only me who is confused by this? Would you like to expand on what this benefit of Brexit is CDH as I don't understand it?

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

The only good thing to come out of Brexit is the fact that we aren't still treated like diseased pieces of Covid scum as most Governments around Europe seem to be doing with their citizens.

Is it only me who is confused by this? Would you like to expand on what this benefit of Brexit is CDH as I don't understand it?

We haven't followed the sheeple groupthink that has had a domino effect for most EU nations with regards to Covid. Although i take your point, nothing to do with a blanket EU policy. Just a bit tongue in cheek. 

The point being anyway that European leaders are just one group of similar thinking cretinous copy cats and i'd fear for us being back in Europe.