McSheffrey & Sinclair

[Bentley Bullet]

Gary and Frank are not just managers, they're M&S managers.

[rtid88]

Gary and Frank are not just managers, they're M&S managers.

I have every confidence even if we were to go down, that under these 2 we will be coming straight back up next season.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Thank the board.

[karlos]

I have a good feeling about these two also, we rode our luck at times today but kept our shoe well and the defence looked really good.

[vaya]

We need to make sure we retain the services of Frank's bobble though.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Today has made me rethink most certainly. So many positive aspects of management shown today by GM and FS that they must be praised for today and not written off too soon. As i maybe have to some extent previously.

Credit to the players today too. Clearly the attitude and application was there across the pitch which it wasn't last Tuesday. Some credit for this improvement lies with both GM and FS.

[PDX_Rover]

We need to make sure we retain the services of Frank's bobble though.

There were loads of other bobbles on that pitch. Magnificent stadium, awful pitch.

[elmsallrover]

Just seen the goals on sky sports and Darren Moore is still our manager

[steve@dcfd]

Just seen the goals on sky sports and Darren Moore is still our manager

Yes think he mistook FS for DM well doesn’t matter only got a mention because we won.

[Chris Black come back]

We’ve been excellent and we’ve been utterly abject under McSheffrey, and we are still rock bottom. I think we have been more competitive under him, but way too early to say if he is doing a good job or not. Signs are positive, but one (excellent) win does not prove him.

[TixTheBox]

He’s made mistakes and played blinders. To be expected for a young coach like he is, buzzing for him tonight.

[jmt23]

I agree it doesn’t make him, but he is getting “ performances “ out of a team that previous managers couldn’t.
Is it nearly 18 months of poor play under a few managers.

 

[Colin C No.3]

They will take loads of positives from this game.
It proves they can set a team up to score goals, defend & more importantly ‘begin’ to play as a unit.

Brilliant!

[idler]

We’ve been excellent and we’ve been utterly abject under McSheffrey, and we are still rock bottom. I think we have been more competitive under him, but way too early to say if he is doing a good job or not. Signs are positive, but one (excellent) win does not prove him.

Two away wins in three games against top opposition sounds a bit better though. The players we have now are starting to gel as well.

[keith79]

Yes he makes mistakes but he is learning from those mistakes. Ps I still believe.

[PDX_Rover]

Gary and Frank are not just managers, they're M&S managers.

Indeed they are M&S… quality.

[andyst79]

Yes took the Rotherham game on the chin and admitted he'd been tactically naive

[EasyforDennis]

GM got it absolutely spot on today.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Yes took the Rotherham game on the chin and admitted he'd been tactically naive

Yes. GM admitted full responsibility for the Rotherham game and admitted he got it all wrong. I actually did think before the game today  that some of his selections also looked very questionable too, however, the proof is in the pudding and GM managed to oversee a tough and not undeserved win and performance against the biggest side in the division in their own back yard.

If he takes the blame for tuesday, he must take the plaudits for learning quick, rectifying that error and doing his job well enough to achieve the aforementioned win.

[Sammy Chung was King]

Two wins from the last four is the positive, the negative is we need even better than that in our situation. A fantastic start today, now hopefully McSheffrey has a plan for Ipswich.

[MagicMartinoWoods]

We’ve been excellent and we’ve been utterly abject under McSheffrey, and we are still rock bottom. I think we have been more competitive under him, but way too early to say if he is doing a good job or not. Signs are positive, but one (excellent) win does not prove him.

Disagree, I think you can see clear improvement in performances from RW's time, and evidently some decent results as well. All this in the context of very difficult circumstances for a new manager to come into. Of course very early to tell if he will be good in the long run, but I  think you can say he's doing a good job compared with what was happening with Richie.

[Sammy Chung was King]

We’ve looked more likely to win games under McSheffrey without getting the results at times. He has got a fair bit wrong but today he set the team up well. We got our noses in front and controlled it pretty well, rode our luck at times. Results make geniuses out of managers and also idiots.

They can set a team up and do just as much right in a defeat but that won’t be noticed if the result wasn’t positive. We need a bit of consistency now. No lurching into heavy defeats, try and repair the damage that’s been done and get back on an even keel. Good start today.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

We’ve been excellent and we’ve been utterly abject under McSheffrey, and we are still rock bottom. I think we have been more competitive under him, but way too early to say if he is doing a good job or not. Signs are positive, but one (excellent) win does not prove him.

Disagree, I think you can see clear improvement in performances from RW's time, and evidently some decent results as well. All this in the context of very difficult circumstances for a new manager to come into. Of course very early to tell if he will be good in the long run, but I  think you can say he's doing a good job compared with what was happening with Richie.

Apologies. I'm a bit confused here as your disagreement to CBCB which IMO you are both saying exactly the same thing.

I agree with both. CBCB says that we have been both excellent and utterly abject under McSheffrey which is true and highlights the inconsistent nature of performances. For example against the likes of Fleetwood, Sunderland, Rotherham, Mansfield and maybe another we've been appalling and barely had a shot (ok we scored 2 from 2 v Mansfield but no other shots) but on the flip side, first half against Morecambe we were good. First half against Cambridge we were like Real Madrid. We matched Wigan well for the second half. MK we didn't play great but won. Plymouth we were excellent but mistakes saw us lose.

So we have improved and we are still improving but, as CBCB says, we are still rock bottom. However, both seem to conclude that he's doing a better job than Wellens and time will tell which i agree with also.

[MagicMartinoWoods]

We’ve been excellent and we’ve been utterly abject under McSheffrey, and we are still rock bottom. I think we have been more competitive under him, but way too early to say if he is doing a good job or not. Signs are positive, but one (excellent) win does not prove him.

Disagree, I think you can see clear improvement in performances from RW's time, and evidently some decent results as well. All this in the context of very difficult circumstances for a new manager to come into. Of course very early to tell if he will be good in the long run, but I  think you can say he's doing a good job compared with what was happening with Richie.

Apologies. I'm a bit confused here as your disagreement to CBCB which IMO you are both saying exactly the same thing.

I agree with both. CBCB says that we have been both excellent and utterly abject under McSheffrey which is true and highlights the inconsistent nature of performances. For example against the likes of Fleetwood, Sunderland, Rotherham, Mansfield and maybe another we've been appalling and barely had a shot (ok we scored 2 from 2 v Mansfield but no other shots) but on the flip side, first half against Morecambe we were good. First half against Cambridge we were like Real Madrid. We matched Wigan well for the second half. MK we didn't play great but won. Plymouth we were excellent but mistakes saw us lose.

So we have improved and we are still improving but, as CBCB says, we are still rock bottom. However, both seem to conclude that he's doing a better job than Wellens and time will tell which i agree with also.

We’ve been excellent and we’ve been utterly abject under McSheffrey, and we are still rock bottom. I think we have been more competitive under him, but way too early to say if he is doing a good job or not . Signs are positive, but one (excellent) win does not prove him.

See bold above, that's the bit i disagree with... that it's too soon to say whether he's doing a good job or not. Of course it's too soon to say whether he's going to do a good job long-term, but I think you can say he's done a good job so far. Hope that makes it clearer.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

We’ve been excellent and we’ve been utterly abject under McSheffrey, and we are still rock bottom. I think we have been more competitive under him, but way too early to say if he is doing a good job or not. Signs are positive, but one (excellent) win does not prove him.

Disagree, I think you can see clear improvement in performances from RW's time, and evidently some decent results as well. All this in the context of very difficult circumstances for a new manager to come into. Of course very early to tell if he will be good in the long run, but I  think you can say he's doing a good job compared with what was happening with Richie.

Apologies. I'm a bit confused here as your disagreement to CBCB which IMO you are both saying exactly the same thing.

I agree with both. CBCB says that we have been both excellent and utterly abject under McSheffrey which is true and highlights the inconsistent nature of performances. For example against the likes of Fleetwood, Sunderland, Rotherham, Mansfield and maybe another we've been appalling and barely had a shot (ok we scored 2 from 2 v Mansfield but no other shots) but on the flip side, first half against Morecambe we were good. First half against Cambridge we were like Real Madrid. We matched Wigan well for the second half. MK we didn't play great but won. Plymouth we were excellent but mistakes saw us lose.

So we have improved and we are still improving but, as CBCB says, we are still rock bottom. However, both seem to conclude that he's doing a better job than Wellens and time will tell which i agree with also.

We’ve been excellent and we’ve been utterly abject under McSheffrey, and we are still rock bottom. I think we have been more competitive under him, but way too early to say if he is doing a good job or not . Signs are positive, but one (excellent) win does not prove him.

See bold above, that's the bit i disagree with... that it's too soon to say whether he's doing a good job or not. Of course it's too soon to say whether he's going to do a good job long-term, but I think you can say he's done a good job so far. Hope that makes it clearer.

Yes absolutely. Thanks.

I think one thing we can all agree on is that we'd all much rather have GM than RW at this moment in time.

[MagicMartinoWoods]

Definitely!

I heard a quote the other day from an ex-player who talked about something like 'when the stench of relegation sets in, it's so hard to get rid of it'. Now not saying GM has got rid of it, but (albeit looking from the outside) the players appear to be playing with more belief and that there isn't that stench of relegation as much in their performances.

[Donny Exile in York]

Sublime to the ridiculous sums it up
 Tremendous and unbelievable result today given the shell-shocked car crash that was the midweek result. Today's result helped ease the pain of the derby match mauling against Rotherham. Pleased to see Griffiths get off the mark today and Younger get one over his old team.

[Sammy Chung was King]

The players seem to be enjoying their football more under McSheffrey than Wellens. To be fair McSheffrey has had more support in bringing players in than the other guy did. The problem is, his recruitment of players wasn’t the best. We had more misses than hits.

 McSheffrey reminds you of a professional decorator that has to come in ,and put right what an amateur has started. There are still a few flaws in the paintwork but it’s looking a smoother surface.

[Janso]

Has he had more support, or did Wellens waste what he had and not spend it in the right areas?

[Draytonian III]

Or perhaps Wellens reputation went before him and some players didn’t want to sign for Rovers because he was the manager