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That was a massive win! Anything on sat is a bonus and then we have a run of games where we can really give ourselves a chance. Anybody getting on my bus yet?
Dickos stop getting your head in a spin it can’t be healthy, you’re honestly going at fans for nothing. People can be full of praise while still believing the reality is relegation
Reality isn’t relegation! Whats the point in pretending to be a supporter if you don’t think it’s realistic to overcome 6 points in 13 games
Quote from: dickos1 on February 16, 2022, 11:09:51 pmReality isn’t relegation! Whats the point in pretending to be a supporter if you don’t think it’s realistic to overcome 6 points in 13 games Dickos. If it was only 6 points and we’d played the same games then we’d all bite the b*llocks off it. If they win just one of the 2 games in hand, that becomes 9 (10 really with GD). You can understand that, can’t you? So the absolute best case scenario is that we need to overhaul at least 7 points in 13 games. Can you see why people are leaning more towards the realism of relegation yet?I think you are manipulating the facts to suit your own agenda just a tad, as usual.
Quote from: dickos1 on February 16, 2022, 11:09:51 pmReality isn’t relegation! Whats the point in pretending to be a supporter if you don’t think it’s realistic to overcome 6 points in 13 games The reality is though that we have get get a lot more than just 6 points in the next 13. Make it more like 23-25.
What’s my agenda?
Quote from: normal rules on February 17, 2022, 07:53:42 amQuote from: dickos1 on February 16, 2022, 11:09:51 pmReality isn’t relegation! Whats the point in pretending to be a supporter if you don’t think it’s realistic to overcome 6 points in 13 games The reality is though that we have get get a lot more than just 6 points in the next 13. Make it more like 23-25. We’ve had 8 really tough games since we recruited well in jan, we’ve played 7 so far and we’ve got 9 points. If we win sat we’d have got 12 points from 8 games, that form is pretty close to what we need to stay up. And on paper our fixtures do become easier after Saturday
I think it would be a mistake to hang too much on an upcoming ‘easier’ set of fixtures. As a general point, throughout the entire season we have proved totally incapable of putting together back to back performances, let alone results. More narrowly, worth repeating again that the non-top half fixtures we have coming up, in the reverse of these 8 games we managed 7 points.We could turn it around, but the story of the season has been an inability to do anything consistently, other than lose and have players out injured, the latter usually with precisely zero communication or hope of return (currently 7 have totally disappeared and looks like Galbraith can be added to that list now).
We may have won a few games but what concerns me going forward is the fact we won them by being far from the best team in each of them. I like to be seeing a bit more performance wise.
Quote from: GazLaz on February 17, 2022, 01:18:06 pmWe may have won a few games but what concerns me going forward is the fact we won them by being far from the best team in each of them. I like to be seeing a bit more performance wise. Performance at Sunderland was good, We’ve also played well in games recently and lost comfortably like Plymouth, Cambridge, even Portsmouth we played well for 40 mins. We won the title not that long ago by just grinding out victories, can remember going to many places and getting battered but winning 1-0 it’s a decent trait to have
Quote from: dickos1 on February 17, 2022, 01:26:32 pmQuote from: GazLaz on February 17, 2022, 01:18:06 pmWe may have won a few games but what concerns me going forward is the fact we won them by being far from the best team in each of them. I like to be seeing a bit more performance wise. Performance at Sunderland was good, We’ve also played well in games recently and lost comfortably like Plymouth, Cambridge, even Portsmouth we played well for 40 mins. We won the title not that long ago by just grinding out victories, can remember going to many places and getting battered but winning 1-0 it’s a decent trait to have Sunderland we’re better than us on the day. The Plymouth was pretty even. In the last 8 games we’ve picked up 9 points when our xPts equates to 5.74We’ve had a decent slice of fortune to pick the points up at the rate we have recently.
Quote from: GazLaz on February 17, 2022, 01:40:59 pmQuote from: dickos1 on February 17, 2022, 01:26:32 pmQuote from: GazLaz on February 17, 2022, 01:18:06 pmWe may have won a few games but what concerns me going forward is the fact we won them by being far from the best team in each of them. I like to be seeing a bit more performance wise. Performance at Sunderland was good, We’ve also played well in games recently and lost comfortably like Plymouth, Cambridge, even Portsmouth we played well for 40 mins. We won the title not that long ago by just grinding out victories, can remember going to many places and getting battered but winning 1-0 it’s a decent trait to have Sunderland we’re better than us on the day. The Plymouth was pretty even. In the last 8 games we’ve picked up 9 points when our xPts equates to 5.74We’ve had a decent slice of fortune to pick the points up at the rate we have recently. This.We have got ourselves into a position where there is a tiny chink of light. But it IS a tiny one. And this is what I meant on Tuesday night when I said another 13 performances like that would see us easily relegated.Weaker sides do sometimes win football matches. But they don't usually. In the past 8 or 9 games, we have been the better side for 25 minutes against Sunderland and two first halves against Cambridge and Plymouth. Other than that, we have generally been second best, even in games where we have ground out results.To stay up from where we are, it's likely that we'll need another 20 points from the final 13 games as a minimum, unless 2 from Morecambe, Wimbledon and Fleetwood all have extremely bad run-ins. We won't get close to that based on the performance on Tuesday night, even with the odd ground out win. We need a step change in our ability to control games, or to defend resolutely AND take chances.It's not impossible, but it is very unlikely.
Quote from: GazLaz on February 17, 2022, 01:40:59 pmQuote from: dickos1 on February 17, 2022, 01:26:32 pmQuote from: GazLaz on February 17, 2022, 01:18:06 pmWe may have won a few games but what concerns me going forward is the fact we won them by being far from the best team in each of them. I like to be seeing a bit more performance wise. Performance at Sunderland was good, We’ve also played well in games recently and lost comfortably like Plymouth, Cambridge, even Portsmouth we played well for 40 mins. We won the title not that long ago by just grinding out victories, can remember going to many places and getting battered but winning 1-0 it’s a decent trait to have Sunderland we’re better than us on the day. The Plymouth was pretty even. In the last 8 games we’ve picked up 9 points when our xPts equates to 5.74We’ve had a decent slice of fortune to pick the points up at the rate we have recently. This.We have got ourselves into a position where there is a tiny chink of light. But it IS a tiny one. And this is what I meant on Tuesday night when I said another 13 performances like that would see us easily relegated.Weaker sides do sometimes win football matches. But they don't usually. In the past 8 or 9 games, we have been the better side for 25 minutes against Sunderland and two first halves against Cambridge and Plymouth. Other than that, we have generally been second best, even in games where we have ground out results.To stay up from where we are, it's likely that we'll need another 20 points from the final 13 games as a minimum, unless 2 from Morecambe, Wimbledon and Fleetwood all have extremely bad run-ins. We won't get close to that based on the performance on Tuesday night, even with the odd ground out win. We need a step change in our ability to control games, or to defend resolutely AND take chances.It's not impossible, but it is very unlikely.PS: To explain just how hard our task is, if we do get to 45 points (which I think will give us a stab at salvation) we'll have won 23 points from the final 14 games. That is play-off form for a third of a season. You simply don't do that unless you have the ability to, on a consistent basis, either control games or absorb pressure and hit hard and efficiently. Yes we have improved greatly over the past few weeks, but we are still not showing those qualities in more than brief glimpses. If we CAN get that sort of consistency for the last three months, McSheffrey deserves the freedom of the town.
Quote from: dickos1 on February 17, 2022, 09:09:09 amWhat’s my agenda? Your agenda is hoping for the best from your team, and showing belief and support in those working for it. And for that you should hang your head in shame you deluded fool.
The run in for us and other teams around us (up to Lincoln)Crewe: Pompey H Oxford H Cheltenham A Wycombe HSunderland A Wigan H Bolton H MK Dons A Fleetwood H Doncaster A Wimbledon H Sheff Wednesday A Ipswich H Lincoln A Games against current top half: 9 (6 H, 3 A)Games against current bottom half: 5 (2 H, 3 A)Points needed to get to 50: 28 (2 ppg)Doncaster: Sheff Wednesday H Accrington H Wimbledon A Cheltenham A Gillingham H Fleetwood A Charlton H Wycombe A Crewe H Bolton H Shrewsbury A Burton H Oxford A Games against current top half: 5 (3 H, 2 A)Games against current bottom half: 8 (4 H, 4 A)Points needed to get to 50: 25 (1.92 ppg)Gillingham: Plymouth H Wimbledon H Lincoln A Bolton H Doncaster A Charlton A Sheff Wednesday HAccrington A Sunderland A Wycombe H Cheltenham A Fleetwood H Pompey A Rotherham H Games against current top half: 7 (5 H, 2 A)Games against current bottom half: 7 (2 H, 5 A)Points needed to get to 50: 24 (1.71 ppg)Morecambe: Shrewsbury A Rotherham A Ipswich H Plymouth A Bolton A Cheltenham H Wigan A Oxford H Burton H Cambridge A Charlton A Pompey H MK Dons A Sunderland H Games against current top half: 10 (5 H, 5 A)Games against current bottom half: 4 (1 H, 3 A)Points needed to get to 50: 20 (1.43 ppg)Wimbledon: Bolton A Gillingham A Doncaster H Wigan APlymouth A Lincoln H Cheltenham A Charlton H Cambridge H Sheff Wednesday A MK Dons H Crewe A Wycombe H Fleetwood A Accrington H Games against current top half: 6 (2 H, 4 A)Games against current bottom half: 9 (5 H, 4 A)Points needed to get to 50: 19 (1.27 ppg)Fleetwood: Lincoln H Sheff Wednesday H Pompey A Wigan A Ipswich H Sunderland A Burton A Doncaster H Wycombe A Crewe A Accrington H Oxford H Gillingham A Wimbledon H Bolton A Games against current top half: 9 (3 H, 6 A)Games against current bottom half: 6 (4 H, 2 A) Points needed to get to 50: 18 (1.2 ppg)Shrewsbury: Morecambe H Pompey H Burton A Rotherham HCambridge A Oxford H Rotherham A Lincoln H MK Dons A Ipswich H Sunderland A Doncaster H Charlton A Wigan H Games against current top half: 9 (5 H, 4 A)Games against current bottom half: 5 (3 H, 2 A)Points needed to get to 50: 16 (1.14 ppg)Lincoln: Fleetwood A Bolton A Gillingham H Sheff Wednesday H Ipswich A Wimbledon A Rotherham A Sunderland H Shrewsbury A Charlton A Wigan H Pompey A Cheltenham H Accrington ACrewe H Games against current top half: 7 (3 H, 4 A)Games against current bottom half: 8 (3 H, 5 A)Points needed to get to 50: 15 (1 ppg)
Quote from: Bailey Vickerage on February 17, 2022, 04:30:47 pmThe run in for us and other teams around us (up to Lincoln)Crewe: Pompey H Oxford H Cheltenham A Wycombe HSunderland A Wigan H Bolton H MK Dons A Fleetwood H Doncaster A Wimbledon H Sheff Wednesday A Ipswich H Lincoln A Games against current top half: 9 (6 H, 3 A)Games against current bottom half: 5 (2 H, 3 A)Points needed to get to 50: 28 (2 ppg)Doncaster: Sheff Wednesday H Accrington H Wimbledon A Cheltenham A Gillingham H Fleetwood A Charlton H Wycombe A Crewe H Bolton H Shrewsbury A Burton H Oxford A Games against current top half: 5 (3 H, 2 A)Games against current bottom half: 8 (4 H, 4 A)Points needed to get to 50: 25 (1.92 ppg)Gillingham: Plymouth H Wimbledon H Lincoln A Bolton H Doncaster A Charlton A Sheff Wednesday HAccrington A Sunderland A Wycombe H Cheltenham A Fleetwood H Pompey A Rotherham H Games against current top half: 7 (5 H, 2 A)Games against current bottom half: 7 (2 H, 5 A)Points needed to get to 50: 24 (1.71 ppg)Morecambe: Shrewsbury A Rotherham A Ipswich H Plymouth A Bolton A Cheltenham H Wigan A Oxford H Burton H Cambridge A Charlton A Pompey H MK Dons A Sunderland H Games against current top half: 10 (5 H, 5 A)Games against current bottom half: 4 (1 H, 3 A)Points needed to get to 50: 20 (1.43 ppg)Wimbledon: Bolton A Gillingham A Doncaster H Wigan APlymouth A Lincoln H Cheltenham A Charlton H Cambridge H Sheff Wednesday A MK Dons H Crewe A Wycombe H Fleetwood A Accrington H Games against current top half: 6 (2 H, 4 A)Games against current bottom half: 9 (5 H, 4 A)Points needed to get to 50: 19 (1.27 ppg)Fleetwood: Lincoln H Sheff Wednesday H Pompey A Wigan A Ipswich H Sunderland A Burton A Doncaster H Wycombe A Crewe A Accrington H Oxford H Gillingham A Wimbledon H Bolton A Games against current top half: 9 (3 H, 6 A)Games against current bottom half: 6 (4 H, 2 A) Points needed to get to 50: 18 (1.2 ppg)Shrewsbury: Morecambe H Pompey H Burton A Rotherham HCambridge A Oxford H Rotherham A Lincoln H MK Dons A Ipswich H Sunderland A Doncaster H Charlton A Wigan H Games against current top half: 9 (5 H, 4 A)Games against current bottom half: 5 (3 H, 2 A)Points needed to get to 50: 16 (1.14 ppg)Lincoln: Fleetwood A Bolton A Gillingham H Sheff Wednesday H Ipswich A Wimbledon A Rotherham A Sunderland H Shrewsbury A Charlton A Wigan H Pompey A Cheltenham H Accrington ACrewe H Games against current top half: 7 (3 H, 4 A)Games against current bottom half: 8 (3 H, 5 A)Points needed to get to 50: 15 (1 ppg) If we can get 12 points from our next 6 games it really puts the pressure on other teams going into the final 7 or 8 games as the other teams have tough matches against the top sides in the period coming up.