P&O Ferries sack staff

[rich1471]

P&O Ferries has sacked 800 staff immediately, but some crew are defying orders and refusing to leave their ships in protest.

Workers were told the news on a video call. The firm said it was a "tough" decision but it would "not be a viable business" without the changes.

Union RMT said crew members were being replaced with cheaper overseas workers.That is shocking i would not leave the ship as well

P&O said its services would not operate for the "next few days", with passengers told to use other companies.People should boycott using them.

[Donnywolf]

They are being offered their jobs back though at the new lower rate

Fire and Rehire is immoral

Labour MP tabled a Bill to make it illegal

Tory MPs voted it down and Johnson said " thanks for the suggestion" but we think Companies should not be compelled by a Law but we can encourage them to comply instead

How's that going cnut ?

[Filo]

There should be 90 days consultation period before redundancies, P&O have broken the law

[tyke1962]

It's sickening absolutely sickening but unfortunately totally legal .

You'd hope the Labour Party in power would ban this practice .

[Filo]

It's sickening absolutely sickening but unfortunately totally legal .

You'd hope the Labour Party in power would ban this practice .

It’s not legal, there should be a 90 consultation period

[grayx]

On a day when its announced mp’s can earn whatever they want in secondary jobs. This is what boris & tories are all about, well done to those who voted for him.

[River Don]

They haven't followed the correct procedure.

The severance package better be as good as they say it is. Otherwise it looks to me like they've left themselves wide open to legal action

I imagine though, they will be up to summat.

[Filo]

Blacklist the security firm they hired and blacklist the agency they used and blacklist the coach company that ferried the agency workers in

[tyke1962]

It's sickening absolutely sickening but unfortunately totally legal .

You'd hope the Labour Party in power would ban this practice .

It’s not legal, there should be a 90 consultation period

Took it as read a company of this size would have followed the right redundancy procedures .

Having read a little more in to it seems not .

Not only that they've picked on a real heavyweight in the RMT union .

[wilts rover]

P&O are owned by DP World (Dubai Ports) a UAE based and owned company.

By total coincidence our PM was meeting with the leaders of the UAE yesterday.

Welcolme to global Britain, the home of free market capitalism where labour regulation and bureaucracy is such a bad thing workers vote to scrap it.

[SydneyRover]

It's sickening absolutely sickening but unfortunately totally legal .

You'd hope the Labour Party in power would ban this practice .

It’s not legal, there should be a 90 consultation period

We should be seeing swarms of police impounding all the boats until the situation is resolved.

[Filo]

It's sickening absolutely sickening but unfortunately totally legal .

You'd hope the Labour Party in power would ban this practice .

It’s not legal, there should be a 90 consultation period

Took it as read a company of this size would have followed the right redundancy procedures .

Having read a little more in to it seems not .

Not only that they've picked on a real heavyweight in the RMT union .

History should tell you that the bigger the company or organisation, the more they think they can get away with flouting the rules

[SydneyRover]

If this is the new reality then noone should be surprised if unions act when they have the leverage and maybe nurses and doctors should have done so recently and not waited for the all clear siren.

[Filo]

Perhaps sacked staff still onboard should scuttle the ships

[SydneyRover]

across the mouth of the harbour

[Filo]

And another thing, are private security staff legally allowed to handcuff people?

[SydneyRover]

From gov.uk .............

''I can confirm that we do hold the information you requested.

The SIA neither endorses nor declines to endorse handcuff use.

There is no law in the UK that prevents civilians carrying handcuffs. SIA licensed security operatives have no legal powers over and above other civilians. Anyone who does carry handcuffs should be aware that their use could constitute a crime, unless they can show that using them was reasonable and proportionate in the circumstances.

[Reference: FOI 0226]

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/use-of-handcuffs-by-security-personnel/the-sias-view-on-the-use-of-handcuffs#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20law%20in,over%20and%20above%20other%20civilians.

[wilts rover]

So the government knew on Wednesday then this was going to happen and refused to either intervene or tell anyone. And then pretended to be outraged yesterday as if they were suprised by it:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/uk-government-knew-plans-axe-26500373

[SydneyRover]

And when many of us said that brexit would erode rather than strengthen workers rights?

[SydneyRover]

''The government has had fair warning that there were serious issues at P&O Ferries. Two years ago, Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem, the billionaire head of Dubai-based DP World, the owners of the ferry company, claimed that P&O Ferries needed £257m in aid to avoid collapse and asked the UK government for £150m – all while paying DPW shareholders £270m. They were turned down – and one month later, they made over 1,000 employees redundant.

Yet none of this stopped the Conservatives cosying up with DP World. Last September, the chancellor, Rishi Sunak, said he was “thrilled” to greenlight hundreds of millions of pounds of DP World investment in Thames Gateway and Southampton. A month later the company partnered with the Foreign Office’s development finance. And for the last two years, DP World has sat on the UK government’s trade advisory group''

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/18/government-p-and-o-british-workers-tories-dp-world

[SydneyRover]

"We will not row back on the 48-hour weekly working limit derived from the working time directive, we will not reduce the UK annual leave entitlement, which is already much more generous than the EU minimum standard, we will not row back on legal rights to breaks at work.

"I will say it again, there is no government plan to reduce workers' rights." Mr Kwarteng added he had repeatedly said that, outside the EU, Britain had an opportunity to raise standards''

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55842992

hmmm

[SydneyRover]

''boris johnson has been accused of backtracking on a promise to boost workers’ rights after leaving out landmark reforms to zero-hours contracts and the gig economy from the Queen’s speech.

Employers’ groups and trade unions said the prime minister risked “levelling down on jobs” after the setpiece event used to open parliament did not include proposals for an employment bill among his government’s priorities.

First pledged in December 2019, the bill was supposed to be the government’s main vehicle for raising workplace protections after Brexit while also acting to safeguard gig economy workers from abusive employers and exploitative contracts''

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2021/may/11/boris-johnson-accused-of-backtracking-on-workers-rights-pledge

All documented, all hot air

[tyke1962]

''boris johnson has been accused of backtracking on a promise to boost workers’ rights after leaving out landmark reforms to zero-hours contracts and the gig economy from the Queen’s speech.

Employers’ groups and trade unions said the prime minister risked “levelling down on jobs” after the setpiece event used to open parliament did not include proposals for an employment bill among his government’s priorities.

First pledged in December 2019, the bill was supposed to be the government’s main vehicle for raising workplace protections after Brexit while also acting to safeguard gig economy workers from abusive employers and exploitative contracts''

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2021/may/11/boris-johnson-accused-of-backtracking-on-workers-rights-pledge

All documented, all hot air

Any comment from Keith Sydney and the Labour Party ?

Any chance you can link that and I'll have a good butchers .

Thanks in advance .

[SydneyRover]

''boris johnson has been accused of backtracking on a promise to boost workers’ rights after leaving out landmark reforms to zero-hours contracts and the gig economy from the Queen’s speech.

Employers’ groups and trade unions said the prime minister risked “levelling down on jobs” after the setpiece event used to open parliament did not include proposals for an employment bill among his government’s priorities.

First pledged in December 2019, the bill was supposed to be the government’s main vehicle for raising workplace protections after Brexit while also acting to safeguard gig economy workers from abusive employers and exploitative contracts''

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2021/may/11/boris-johnson-accused-of-backtracking-on-workers-rights-pledge

All documented, all hot air

Any comment from Keith Sydney and the Labour Party ?

Any chance you can link that and I'll have a good butchers .

Thanks in advance .

You're extremely childish tyke for a serious subject, but then you don't have a substantive argument do you, tell me again about your life story and your journey to political enlightenment snooooooooooooore

[tyke1962]

''boris johnson has been accused of backtracking on a promise to boost workers’ rights after leaving out landmark reforms to zero-hours contracts and the gig economy from the Queen’s speech.

Employers’ groups and trade unions said the prime minister risked “levelling down on jobs” after the setpiece event used to open parliament did not include proposals for an employment bill among his government’s priorities.

First pledged in December 2019, the bill was supposed to be the government’s main vehicle for raising workplace protections after Brexit while also acting to safeguard gig economy workers from abusive employers and exploitative contracts''

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2021/may/11/boris-johnson-accused-of-backtracking-on-workers-rights-pledge

All documented, all hot air

Any comment from Keith Sydney and the Labour Party ?

Any chance you can link that and I'll have a good butchers .

Thanks in advance .

You're extremely childish tyke for a serious subject, but then you don't have a substantive argument do you, tell me again about your life story and your journey to political enlightenment snooooooooooooore

I ask again  Sydney because to be fair you are good at links .

Any word from the opposition on the P&O situation ?

Much appreciated any support you can link .

Thanks once again in advance .

[SydneyRover]

''boris johnson has been accused of backtracking on a promise to boost workers’ rights after leaving out landmark reforms to zero-hours contracts and the gig economy from the Queen’s speech.

Employers’ groups and trade unions said the prime minister risked “levelling down on jobs” after the setpiece event used to open parliament did not include proposals for an employment bill among his government’s priorities.

First pledged in December 2019, the bill was supposed to be the government’s main vehicle for raising workplace protections after Brexit while also acting to safeguard gig economy workers from abusive employers and exploitative contracts''

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2021/may/11/boris-johnson-accused-of-backtracking-on-workers-rights-pledge

All documented, all hot air

Any comment from Keith Sydney and the Labour Party ?

Any chance you can link that and I'll have a good butchers .

Thanks in advance .

You're extremely childish tyke for a serious subject, but then you don't have a substantive argument do you, tell me again about your life story and your journey to political enlightenment snooooooooooooore

I ask again  Sydney because to be fair you are good at links .

Any word from the opposition on the P&O situation ?

Much appreciated any support you can link .

Thanks once again in advance .

Would you like a link from the Guardian that was born out of the Peterloo massacre or the one you read owned by millionaires ........ political enlightenment, yawn ............

[drfchound]

''boris johnson has been accused of backtracking on a promise to boost workers’ rights after leaving out landmark reforms to zero-hours contracts and the gig economy from the Queen’s speech.

Employers’ groups and trade unions said the prime minister risked “levelling down on jobs” after the setpiece event used to open parliament did not include proposals for an employment bill among his government’s priorities.

First pledged in December 2019, the bill was supposed to be the government’s main vehicle for raising workplace protections after Brexit while also acting to safeguard gig economy workers from abusive employers and exploitative contracts''

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2021/may/11/boris-johnson-accused-of-backtracking-on-workers-rights-pledge

All documented, all hot air

Any comment from Keith Sydney and the Labour Party ?

Any chance you can link that and I'll have a good butchers .

Thanks in advance .

You're extremely childish tyke for a serious subject, but then you don't have a substantive argument do you, tell me again about your life story and your journey to political enlightenment snooooooooooooore

I ask again  Sydney because to be fair you are good at links .

Any word from the opposition on the P&O situation ?

Much appreciated any support you can link .

Thanks once again in advance .

Tyke, seriously, don’t expect a serious answer.

[tyke1962]

''boris johnson has been accused of backtracking on a promise to boost workers’ rights after leaving out landmark reforms to zero-hours contracts and the gig economy from the Queen’s speech.

Employers’ groups and trade unions said the prime minister risked “levelling down on jobs” after the setpiece event used to open parliament did not include proposals for an employment bill among his government’s priorities.

First pledged in December 2019, the bill was supposed to be the government’s main vehicle for raising workplace protections after Brexit while also acting to safeguard gig economy workers from abusive employers and exploitative contracts''

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2021/may/11/boris-johnson-accused-of-backtracking-on-workers-rights-pledge

All documented, all hot air

Any comment from Keith Sydney and the Labour Party ?

Any chance you can link that and I'll have a good butchers .

Thanks in advance .

You're extremely childish tyke for a serious subject, but then you don't have a substantive argument do you, tell me again about your life story and your journey to political enlightenment snooooooooooooore

I ask again  Sydney because to be fair you are good at links .

Any word from the opposition on the P&O situation ?

Much appreciated any support you can link .

Thanks once again in advance .

Would you like a link from the Guardian that was born out of the Peterloo massacre or the one you read owned by millionaires ........ political enlightenment, yawn ............

You could address the issue Sydney instead of going all Peterloo of course .

I thought the dead cat strategy was a Tory thing .

Then again when you pyss in the same pot ??

Any progress on those Guardian links Sydney ?

[foxbat]

Kier Starmer ( on twitter) :

I’ve spoken with staff sacked by P&O Ferries. I’m furious for them and stand with them.

The Tories have created an environment where a bad employer thinks they have license to tear up staff contracts.

Labour will introduce a new deal for working people to make work more secure.

[SydneyRover]

Kier Starmer ( on twitter) :

I’ve spoken with staff sacked by P&O Ferries. I’m furious for them and stand with them.

The Tories have created an environment where a bad employer thinks they have license to tear up staff contracts.

Labour will introduce a new deal for working people to make work more secure.

And tyke of course and the rest of the enablers that helped to get them elected.