Doncaster airport

[silent majority]

I still don’t understand why somebody hasn’t applied for an ACV on the airport. Am I missing something?

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Posted by Ros Jones a few minutes ago.

"message from Ros Jones and DMBC Oliver Coppard SYMCA

On Thursday morning we wrote to Peel highlighting the three potential investors and asking them to reverse the closure notice of doncaster sheffield airport we gave them a 5pm deadline today to respond.

This afternoon we received a response from Peel by the deadline, the door is still open for negotiations and Peel have confirmed it would be willing to quickly engage with these potential investors.

There are some clarification points that need addressing before we formally reply"

At last a positive step. The work done by SYCMA to bring 3 potential buyers to the table in such a short period of time is commendable. This, with their intention to invoke a CPO if Peel still refuses to negotiate appears to have born fruit.

I suspect Peel will try to negotiate a deal now rather than risk a reduced value that a CPO might bring.

[silent majority]

An ACV would give six months of breathing space.

A CPO would need some serious political backing I would have thought.

[Sprotyrover]

An ACV would give six months of breathing space.

A CPO would need some serious political backing I would have thought.

You may have a point there SM but making it an Asset of Community value would not prevent Peels from winding everything down.

[phil old leake]

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/doncaster-sheffield-airport-peel-agree-to-last-ditch-talks-to-save-base-3881048

Are Peel just taking the mick and prolonging this or could this be genuine

[Filo]

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/doncaster-sheffield-airport-peel-agree-to-last-ditch-talks-to-save-base-3881048

Are Peel just taking the mick and prolonging this or could this be genuine

In my opinion Peel are playing the game, there is no reason whatsoever for them to turn down the financial support while complex negotiations take place

[Sprotyrover]

I suspect that now there are three separate entities with the financial clout and muscle to have met the very high Bar set by Peel, they are backed against a wall, they are under intense scrutiny and there are some big Bears coming up on the horizon to raise serious questions about the way they have managed the Airport and how they can account for the Public money chucked their way over the years, their past history of deliberately mismanaged Airports clearly run down with a view to exploiting the land they stand on for vast profit.
If The MAG group as rumoured are in the reckoning they would be a serious contender, Manchester does not have the capacity to expand and clearly can see the benefits of taking over DSA and moving a large tranche of flights over the Pennines just makes sense.
Having a Tory Mp who is making a lot of noise also doesn't bode well for Peel.

[Filo]

I suspect that now there are three separate entities with the financial clout and muscle to have met the very high Bar set by Peel, they are backed against a wall, they are under intense scrutiny and there are some big Bears coming up on the horizon to raise serious questions about the way they have managed the Airport and how they can account for the Public money chucked their way over the years, their past history of deliberately mismanaged Airports clearly run down with a view to exploiting the land they stand on for vast profit.
If The MAG group as rumoured are in the reckoning they would be a serious contender, Manchester does not have the capacity to expand and clearly can see the benefits of taking over DSA and moving a large tranche of flights over the Pennines just makes sense.
Having a Tory Mp who is making a lot of noise also doesn't bode well for Peel.

I don’t wish to make this Political, I think all party’s  regardless  of political colour should come together on this, but I think I should just mention that the Tory MP was absent from the House when his Transport Minister basically washed her hand off saving the airport and came down on Peels side

[Sprotyrover]

That will be another ‘Red Wall’ seat back to Labour then!

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I could be wrong but I think Nick Fletcher seems to be acting more helpfully now since Coppard gave him a dressing down in public after making politically motivated comments that could have hindered the work going on by SYMCA behind the scenes.

Those two and Ros Jones seem to have come together in the last few days at this critical time.

I agree, and hope Peel are now feeling some heat and think it's better to negotiate voluntarily rather than risk having more scrutiny into their business dealings.

Fingers crossed a deal can be reached .

[BillyStubbsTears]

That will be another ‘Red Wall’ seat back to Labour then!

I don't think you'd get very long odds against that.

There's going to be dozens of Red Wall Tory MPs polishing their CVs over the next 2 years. The emotional spasm is over

[Sprotyrover]

Whoever gets in next time is picking up the Poisoned Chalice there will be not a lot of money to play around with, that's for certain.

[Sprotyrover]

Latest from Nick Fletcher


AIRPORT CLOSURE - DAY 96

I have spent this afternoon writing to our Prime Minister Liz Truss, Secretary of State for Transport Anne-Marie Trevelyan MP and our Aviation Minister Baroness Vere.

I have asked them for a collegiate approach from government using the full weight of their collective offices to press all stakeholders to achieve a successful outcome. To save our airport. Doncaster Sheffield Airport

Peel are actively engaged in seeking an Investment Zone for their land. I cannot see how that can happen if the airport is closed.

I am genuinely baffled how Peel can think refusing the interim offer to cover their losses is the way forward. It is more than likely that all that will happen is that tumbleweed will collect around the land. Certainly not what Peel say they want to do with it.

I have lobbied Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy since becoming your MP for support towards an Advanced Manufacturing Research Centre at Gateway East but Peel’s refusal to do the right thing is putting that in real jeopardy too.

I continue to ask for support from the Secretaries of State for BEIS and Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities.

As I have said so many times we do not live in a dictatorship or a communist regime. So the government can only do so much. 

Compulsory Purchase powers sit with Doncaster Council (Ros Jones) and South Yorkshire Mayoral Combined Authority (Oliver Coppard).

Government powers now sit with DMBC and SYMCA.

However, I believe it would be unwise for any business (that has a wish to prosper in the future) to ignore three Departments of State and the United Kingdom’s Prime Minister.

We shall see over the next few days how events unfold.

I have today also written to Damian Allen (CEO of DMBC) with regards to making the airport, it’s runway, terminals and hangars into Community Assets of Value. We discussed this yesterday at our meeting but think it is important for me to press for this formally for a second time.

I am still pressing with regards to the CCA and will be hoping to speak with Huw Merriman MP next week regarding how the Transport Select Committee are progressing with my previous request for support.

The fight is not over. Keep strong. Keep the Faith. I’m on it.

#SaveDSA #Doncasterisgreat

[turnbull for england]

I know politics is a game played by all, but can't help but think Nick Fletcher is playing harder than most to deflect away from it being his mob in charge - and you can't tell me you can shut an asset like this without approval however tacit

[drfchound]

Nick Fletcher hasn’t given up yet on trying to save DSA.

Quote from Tommy Toes: October 3rd.

OK hound.
What's he going to do now, other than trying to score points by blaming Donny council and Oliver Coppard, he's got nowhere so far.
Because as sure as eggs is eggs his government aren't going to get involved despite what Truss said in Parliament.
**********************************************************

Well Tommy Toes, it looks like he is still trying to get the government to listen.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I know politics is a game played by all, but can't help but think Nick Fletcher is playing harder than most to deflect away from it being his mob in charge - and you can't tell me you can shut an asset like this without approval however tacit

To translate:

"I know the airport is going to close. I know the PM is a basket case and will do nothing about it because she's curled up in a foetal position in the dark rocking backwards and forwards whispering "Lizzy is BIG girl. Lizzy in charge." I know she's the most derided person in the country. So I'm setting the ground for saying "Nowt to do with me guv! I tried," when it all goes tits.

And it's also Labour's fault."

[turnbull for england]

Yeah that 

[turnbull for england]

Nick Fletcher hasn’t given up yet on trying to save DSA.

Quote from Tommy Toes: October 3rd.

OK hound.
What's he going to do now, other than trying to score points by blaming Donny council and Oliver Coppard, he's got nowhere so far.
Because as sure as eggs is eggs his government aren't going to get involved despite what Truss said in Parliament.
**********************************************************

Well Tommy Toes, it looks like he is still trying to get the government to listen.

Trying to get HIS government to listen

[tommy toes]

Nick Fletcher hasn’t given up yet on trying to save DSA.

Quote from Tommy Toes: October 3rd.

OK hound.
What's he going to do now, other than trying to score points by blaming Donny council and Oliver Coppard, he's got nowhere so far.
Because as sure as eggs is eggs his government aren't going to get involved despite what Truss said in Parliament.
**********************************************************

Well Tommy Toes, it looks like he is still trying to get the government to listen.

All this is smoke and mirrors hound.
The transport minister has already refused to get involved and has batted it back to DMBC and Coppard.

Ros Jones and Coppard, NOT your beloved Fletcher, have identified 3 consortiums who have shown a serious interest in taking over the Airport, and are allegedly meeting with Peel, but don't hold your breath.
Again Fletcher is having a go at DMBC and Coppard when they are working as hard, if not harder than him to save the airport.
Your blinkered gullibility knows no bounds Hound

[Sprotyrover]

well at least he is trying, what about the other two Doncaster MP's ?

[tommy toes]

well at least he is trying, what about the other two Doncaster MP's ?

You should look into this yourself.

Rosie and Milliband have been working alongside the others, as have Louise Haig and Dan Jarvis.

They were all pressing the transport minister in the house earlier this week and Fletcher wasn't even present!

[Filo]

well at least he is trying, what about the other two Doncaster MP's ?

You should look into this yourself.

Rosie and Milliband have been working alongside the others, as have Louise Haig and Dan Jarvis.

They were all pressing the transport minister in the house earlier this week and Fletcher wasn't even present!

Probably because there was no one with a camera for his photo op, the man is a fraud and one term Tory

[DonnyOsmond]

well at least he is trying, what about the other two Doncaster MP's ?

Who's constituency is the airport in?

[Sprotyrover]

well at least he is trying, what about the other two Doncaster MP's ?

Who's constituency is the airport in?

Don’t you think that all of them should have their shoulders to the cart ? I know I do!

[drfchound]

Nick Fletcher hasn’t given up yet on trying to save DSA.

Quote from Tommy Toes: October 3rd.

OK hound.
What's he going to do now, other than trying to score points by blaming Donny council and Oliver Coppard, he's got nowhere so far.
Because as sure as eggs is eggs his government aren't going to get involved despite what Truss said in Parliament.
**********************************************************

Well Tommy Toes, it looks like he is still trying to get the government to listen.

All this is smoke and mirrors hound.
The transport minister has already refused to get involved and has batted it back to DMBC and Coppard.

Ros Jones and Coppard, NOT your beloved Fletcher, have identified 3 consortiums who have shown a serious interest in taking over the Airport, and are allegedly meeting with Peel, but don't hold your breath.
Again Fletcher is having a go at DMBC and Coppard when they are working as hard, if not harder than him to save the airport.
Your blinkered gullibility knows no bounds Hound

Tommy, first of all he isn’t my beloved Fletcher.
I have met him though and he is a decent man who appears to genuinely care about his constituents.
Secondly, you are a really funny guy, accusing me of blinkered gullibility.
For christs sake, if the Labour leader was a baboon you would still vote for it.

[Bentley Bullet]

Nick Fletcher hasn’t given up yet on trying to save DSA.

Quote from Tommy Toes: October 3rd.

OK hound.
What's he going to do now, other than trying to score points by blaming Donny council and Oliver Coppard, he's got nowhere so far.
Because as sure as eggs is eggs his government aren't going to get involved despite what Truss said in Parliament.
**********************************************************

Well Tommy Toes, it looks like he is still trying to get the government to listen.

All this is smoke and mirrors hound.
The transport minister has already refused to get involved and has batted it back to DMBC and Coppard.

Ros Jones and Coppard, NOT your beloved Fletcher, have identified 3 consortiums who have shown a serious interest in taking over the Airport, and are allegedly meeting with Peel, but don't hold your breath.
Again Fletcher is having a go at DMBC and Coppard when they are working as hard, if not harder than him to save the airport.
Your blinkered gullibility knows no bounds Hound

Tommy, first of all he isn’t my beloved Fletcher.
I have met him though and he is a decent man who appears to genuinely care about his constituents.
Secondly, you are a really funny guy, accusing me of blinkered gullibility.
For christs sake, if the Labour leader was a baboon you would still vote for it.

He is, and he will!

[drfchound]

Nick Fletcher hasn’t given up yet on trying to save DSA.

Quote from Tommy Toes: October 3rd.

OK hound.
What's he going to do now, other than trying to score points by blaming Donny council and Oliver Coppard, he's got nowhere so far.
Because as sure as eggs is eggs his government aren't going to get involved despite what Truss said in Parliament.
**********************************************************

Well Tommy Toes, it looks like he is still trying to get the government to listen.

All this is smoke and mirrors hound.
The transport minister has already refused to get involved and has batted it back to DMBC and Coppard.

Ros Jones and Coppard, NOT your beloved Fletcher, have identified 3 consortiums who have shown a serious interest in taking over the Airport, and are allegedly meeting with Peel, but don't hold your breath.
Again Fletcher is having a go at DMBC and Coppard when they are working as hard, if not harder than him to save the airport.
Your blinkered gullibility knows no bounds Hound

Tommy, first of all he isn’t my beloved Fletcher.
I have met him though and he is a decent man who appears to genuinely care about his constituents.
Secondly, you are a really funny guy, accusing me of blinkered gullibility.
For christs sake, if the Labour leader was a baboon you would still vote for it.

He is, and he will!

 

[DonnyOsmond]

Nick Fletcher hasn’t given up yet on trying to save DSA.

Quote from Tommy Toes: October 3rd.

OK hound.
What's he going to do now, other than trying to score points by blaming Donny council and Oliver Coppard, he's got nowhere so far.
Because as sure as eggs is eggs his government aren't going to get involved despite what Truss said in Parliament.
**********************************************************

Well Tommy Toes, it looks like he is still trying to get the government to listen.

All this is smoke and mirrors hound.
The transport minister has already refused to get involved and has batted it back to DMBC and Coppard.

Ros Jones and Coppard, NOT your beloved Fletcher, have identified 3 consortiums who have shown a serious interest in taking over the Airport, and are allegedly meeting with Peel, but don't hold your breath.
Again Fletcher is having a go at DMBC and Coppard when they are working as hard, if not harder than him to save the airport.
Your blinkered gullibility knows no bounds Hound

Tommy, first of all he isn’t my beloved Fletcher.
I have met him though and he is a decent man who appears to genuinely care about his constituents.
Secondly, you are a really funny guy, accusing me of blinkered gullibility.
For christs sake, if the Labour leader was a baboon you would still vote for it.

But Hound why are you saying tommy would vote for Labour, he doesn't have a preferred party.

[drfchound]

Nick Fletcher hasn’t given up yet on trying to save DSA.

Quote from Tommy Toes: October 3rd.

OK hound.
What's he going to do now, other than trying to score points by blaming Donny council and Oliver Coppard, he's got nowhere so far.
Because as sure as eggs is eggs his government aren't going to get involved despite what Truss said in Parliament.
**********************************************************

Well Tommy Toes, it looks like he is still trying to get the government to listen.

All this is smoke and mirrors hound.
The transport minister has already refused to get involved and has batted it back to DMBC and Coppard.

Ros Jones and Coppard, NOT your beloved Fletcher, have identified 3 consortiums who have shown a serious interest in taking over the Airport, and are allegedly meeting with Peel, but don't hold your breath.
Again Fletcher is having a go at DMBC and Coppard when they are working as hard, if not harder than him to save the airport.
Your blinkered gullibility knows no bounds Hound

Tommy, first of all he isn’t my beloved Fletcher.
I have met him though and he is a decent man who appears to genuinely care about his constituents.
Secondly, you are a really funny guy, accusing me of blinkered gullibility.
For christs sake, if the Labour leader was a baboon you would still vote for it.

But Hound why are you saying tommy would vote for Labour, he doesn't have a preferred party.

He doesn’t have to DO.

[DonnyOsmond]

Nick Fletcher hasn’t given up yet on trying to save DSA.

Quote from Tommy Toes: October 3rd.

OK hound.
What's he going to do now, other than trying to score points by blaming Donny council and Oliver Coppard, he's got nowhere so far.
Because as sure as eggs is eggs his government aren't going to get involved despite what Truss said in Parliament.
**********************************************************

Well Tommy Toes, it looks like he is still trying to get the government to listen.

All this is smoke and mirrors hound.
The transport minister has already refused to get involved and has batted it back to DMBC and Coppard.

Ros Jones and Coppard, NOT your beloved Fletcher, have identified 3 consortiums who have shown a serious interest in taking over the Airport, and are allegedly meeting with Peel, but don't hold your breath.
Again Fletcher is having a go at DMBC and Coppard when they are working as hard, if not harder than him to save the airport.
Your blinkered gullibility knows no bounds Hound

Tommy, first of all he isn’t my beloved Fletcher.
I have met him though and he is a decent man who appears to genuinely care about his constituents.
Secondly, you are a really funny guy, accusing me of blinkered gullibility.
For christs sake, if the Labour leader was a baboon you would still vote for it.

But Hound why are you saying tommy would vote for Labour, he doesn't have a preferred party.

He doesn’t have to DO.