Doncaster airport

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Emirates Airline are rumoured to be the potential buyer, they want a European base

All that's been rumoured is UAE consortium so we can't assume it's Emirates Airlines.

On face value sounds extremely positive. Also reported on Look North that it's understood to he 'an above market price' offer.

If this comes off, can't wait for Nick Fletcher to congratulate SYMCA for 'doing the right thing'.

[tommy toes]

Peel still saying they've not received a credible offer, though a middle east consortium are believed to have made one, and are now saying they have no evidence that the funds are available.

Peel need to give it more time, so that they can complete their due diligence.
They need to accept the council's offer of a funded extention.

[Mike_F]

It's Sequentia Airways in association with Louis Tomlinson isn't it?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I'm sure that what they say publicly and what's going on are separate things.  As ever with these things it needs time. I feel for the staff who don't have that.  There are real complications with consultations etc if timelines are changed and that's an issue they'll be considering too.

[phil o sophical]

In a joint statement by the local authorities they have confirmed that one of the potential investors have submitted a substantial offer. Talks are ongoing and the aviation minister is scheduled to speak to Peel tomorrow. The general feeling appears to be that Peel don't want to sell or save the airport

[danumdon]

In a joint statement by the local authorities they have confirmed that one of the potential investors have submitted a substantial offer. Talks are ongoing and the aviation minister is scheduled to speak to Peel tomorrow. The general feeling appears to be that Peel don't want to sell or save the airport

If the substantial offer is genuine and Peel are adamant that they don’t wish to sell to another operator to take over the airport operations then could it not be the case that the council could have the site compulsory purchased as a site of specific interest and then sell to a consortium that would run the operations as required?

[grayx]

In a joint statement by the local authorities they have confirmed that one of the potential investors have submitted a substantial offer. Talks are ongoing and the aviation minister is scheduled to speak to Peel tomorrow. The general feeling appears to be that Peel don't want to sell or save the airport

If the substantial offer is genuine and Peel are adamant that they don’t wish to sell to another operator to take over the airport operations then could it not be the case that the council could have the site compulsory purchased as a site of specific interest and then sell to a consortium that would run the operations as required?

In an ideal world , this would happen.
But money talks, Peel will find a way to continue with their plans for the site & the fortune they will make from it. Thats what they do.

[dknward2]

The council should just turn down every planning permission that peel request for

[phil o sophical]

The council have said that they will pursue a CPO if Peel carry on as they are doing. The downside is that it won't stop the closure of the airport and could take up to two years with Peel no doubt making a strong legal challenge

[Donnywolf]

The council should just turn down every planning permission that peel request for

They DO turn down Planning for all such things across the Country but then senior Politicians " intervene"

Read just one ... Jenrick ... Sacked for doing that and now back as Immigration Minister but saved his mate 45 million quid and thus stopping local council gaining 30 million quid that WAS going into public services.

Desmond then gave "just " 15,000 to Conservative Party.


Below are a few controversies but this bit is perhaps a good summary of the "worst"


The 39-year-old faced calls to be sacked in 2020 after he sat next to the developer and former media mogul Richard Desmond at a Tory party fundraiser and subsequently helped him avoid a £45m tax bill on an east London development. Mr Desmond later donated £12,000 to the Conservatives.


Mr Jenrick later admitted helping the former porn baron save millions in levies by overruling the local council, describing it as “natural justice”. He said he regretted sitting next to Mr Desmond and swapping text messages with him.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11280472/who-robert-jenrick-coronavirus-conferences-housing-secretary/

[tommy toes]

He also secured £30million Town fund cash for Newark, despite it being something like 230th on the list.

[BillyStubbsTears]

The council should just turn down every planning permission that peel request for

They DO turn down Planning for all such things across the Country but then senior Politicians " intervene"

Read just one ... Jenrick ... Sacked for doing that and now back as Immigration Minister but saved his mate 45 million quid and thus stopping local council gaining 30 million quid that WAS going into public services.

Desmond then gave "just " 15,000 to Conservative Party.


Below are a few controversies but this bit is perhaps a good summary of the "worst"


The 39-year-old faced calls to be sacked in 2020 after he sat next to the developer and former media mogul Richard Desmond at a Tory party fundraiser and subsequently helped him avoid a £45m tax bill on an east London development. Mr Desmond later donated £12,000 to the Conservatives.


Mr Jenrick later admitted helping the former porn baron save millions in levies by overruling the local council, describing it as “natural justice”. He said he regretted sitting next to Mr Desmond and swapping text messages with him.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11280472/who-robert-jenrick-coronavirus-conferences-housing-secretary/

Point of fact. Jenrick wasn't sacked for that. Outright corruption like that was fine under Johnson.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

The council should just turn down every planning permission that peel request for

They DO turn down Planning for all such things across the Country but then senior Politicians " intervene"

Read just one ... Jenrick ... Sacked for doing that and now back as Immigration Minister but saved his mate 45 million quid and thus stopping local council gaining 30 million quid that WAS going into public services.

Desmond then gave "just " 15,000 to Conservative Party.


Below are a few controversies but this bit is perhaps a good summary of the "worst"


The 39-year-old faced calls to be sacked in 2020 after he sat next to the developer and former media mogul Richard Desmond at a Tory party fundraiser and subsequently helped him avoid a £45m tax bill on an east London development. Mr Desmond later donated £12,000 to the Conservatives.


Mr Jenrick later admitted helping the former porn baron save millions in levies by overruling the local council, describing it as “natural justice”. He said he regretted sitting next to Mr Desmond and swapping text messages with him.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11280472/who-robert-jenrick-coronavirus-conferences-housing-secretary/

I think this is what will happen in this case. All the government have done is basically support Peel despite publicly saying 'they will do all they can.." by continually supporting the non viable narrative. They also commend Nick Fletcher in his tireless efforts to save the airport, without actually doing anything to support him or the campaign. They have not given any such words of support for Oliver Coppard, Ros Jones and combined authority for actually doing something to bring a deal to the table.

The only thing they appear to have done is 'encourage' Peel to go through the motions of listening to offers put to them.

I think they are fully aware of Peels intentions for the site. You watch, the council will apply for the CPO and it'll be kicked out on a technicality, then despite the council intending to withhold planning permissions for change of use, they will be overridden. It matters not about public opinion, levelling up, or any thought of a strategic transport policy as they will see the airport as expendable as it sits within a Labour controlled authority where the political damage will be limited.

[SydneyRover]

RJ is fully across what peel are doing of course

https://www.facebook.com/MayorRos/

[tommy toes]

Ros Jones is astonished that Peel refused the offer that had been made, however the conglomerate has made an improved offer, which she says is way above the market value.
Talks still ongoing.

[Filo]

Ros Jones is astonished that Peel refused the offer that had been made, however the conglomerate has made an improved offer, which she says is way above the market value.
Talks still ongoing.

It’s obvious Peel are playing everyone, they won’t sell because they want to develop the land and mineral rights

[tommy toes]

I fear you're right Filo

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Ros Jones is astonished that Peel refused the offer that had been made, however the conglomerate has made an improved offer, which she says is way above the market value.
Talks still ongoing.

It’s obvious Peel are playing everyone, they won’t sell because they want to develop the land and mineral rights

That there's been an improved offer suggests they are playing it right, like it or not.

[Filo]

Ros Jones is astonished that Peel refused the offer that had been made, however the conglomerate has made an improved offer, which she says is way above the market value.
Talks still ongoing.

It’s obvious Peel are playing everyone, they won’t sell because they want to develop the land and mineral rights

That there's been an improved offer suggests they are playing it right, like it or not.

If they were serious the Council bridging funding would have been taken

[phil o sophical]

So despite the substantial improved offer Peel are still saying they haven't received a credible offer. Pity they didn't have the balls to be interviewed on TV to explain what they mean by credible

[Donnywolf]

Emotional last message from last TUI planes pilot.

Goodbye DSA I guess ....Are Peel smashing stuff up already ?

[Draytonian III]

He also secured £30million Town fund cash for Newark, despite it being something like 230th on the list.


I met Jenrick just before he became a MP, horrible smug little man

[Metalmicky]

He also secured £30million Town fund cash for Newark, despite it being something like 230th on the list.


I met Jenrick just before he became a MP, horrible smug little man

Met him at last years Remembrance Day services in Newark.......... he comes across as a right whingy scrote..

[Donnywolf]

Still wonder if Peel as owners can start ripping it to bits ?

Or is there any protection left ?

[Donnywolf]

He also secured £30million Town fund cash for Newark, despite it being something like 230th on the list.


I met Jenrick just before he became a MP, horrible smug little man

Met him at last years Remembrance Day services in Newark.......... he comes across as a right whingy scrote..

He agreed with some other Tory MP whose Constituency was also way way down the pecking order to nominate each other's Constituencies

I'd normally say "you couldn't make it up" but you don't have to. It won't be illegal of course , but immoral ? Probably

[danumdon]

He also secured £30million Town fund cash for Newark, despite it being something like 230th on the list.


I met Jenrick just before he became a MP, horrible smug little man

Remember. actions speak louder than words from these types of individuals and this one's an old hand at it.

But is it anymore sleezy than MP's from all sections of the political agenda who were caught flip flopping their mortgage expense payments because it was more advantageous for them, in some cases we even had husband and wife couples who decided it was the right thing to do to defraud the taxpayer for two lots for the same properties.

What i never understood is why when it was clearly established that the "fraud" had been committed, individuals were allowed to pay back the over claimed expenses and nothing more was said about the matter. If this was you or i then im sure the authorities would of been, shall we say a tadge more interested in the matter, as in jail time !!

And these are supposed to constitute the nations "leaders"

Corrupt scum.

[Donnywolf]

.... third time lucky

Does anyone actually know if Peel could take bulldozers etc and just knock the Terminal down OR is there something legal stopping them

Probably need Planning consent

So same question can they take diggers to the runway and put it out of use ?

[Muttley]

.... third time lucky

Does anyone actually know if Peel could take bulldozers etc and just knock the Terminal down OR is there something legal stopping them

Probably need Planning consent

So same question can they take diggers to the runway and put it out of use ?

It's their train set (or in this case, airport) so I would imagine they can do what they like with it.

Presumably there is no covenant on the land from when it was sold by the MoD requiring it to be used as an airport for a specified period or in perpetuity.

They may need consent to demolish buildings, but no substantial reason for DMBC to be able to refuse this and even if they did, then no doubt Peel would appeal to the Secretary of State and get it overturned, same as ant new buildings they want to put on the site.

[Dagenham Rover]

I believe no planning permission can be granted for at least 15 years and there is some sort of legal agreement stopping Peel removing the airport equipment and safety equipment for the time being.
 Theres lots going off in the background and according to whats been said talks are ongoing between the middle east consortium and due diligence is being carried out by both sides all is not over yet!!

The only things being removed at the moment are the franchisee's equipment ie Wetherspoons Costa, wh smith which by all accounts is quite normal in this type of circumstance. The fight is ongoing   

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Donny Council applied for a court order to stop Peel dismantling vital operational equipment. Whether this was successful or not Peel agreed to keep the airport in an active state, with skeleton staff/firefighters till the end of the month.

Only today, a 727 took off (the oil spill aircraft I think).

The Vulcan has also been granted permission to stay until mid 2023.

These maybe positive signs that Peel are taking the negotiations seriously.

Edit. Appears the last Wizz Air departure left just over an hour ago.