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Quote from: Sprotyrover on March 23, 2024, 07:06:47 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on March 23, 2024, 12:39:33 amQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on March 22, 2024, 11:51:06 amPersonally on the politics of it;Fletcher is right to raise a number of points, the local devolved politicians have made mistakes, particularly the SY mayor who could and should have done much more.They are then quite right to call out that the conservative government has offered nothing of note throughout the issue, including him.The local council have IMO so far done a brilliant job at doing this in a professional, quiet manner following clear processes, though I still believe the SY mayor should have intervened before closure in a much better way.But overall actually the campaigning from all sides has driven a strong outcome and that's vital in politics. Fletcher has talked some proper rubbish at times but that constant pressure does help to keep the local authorities on their toes. It's vital we have that in this area rather than a one party monopoly. It's created good debate regardless of doing much of substance.I think a lease led by the authorities but run by a good private operator is a good way forward, it would probably be stronger if the site was owned, but a long lease is as good as that. What I think has been clear is that the local population don't want another warehouse site, it wants an airport and it's an airport that if they get it right can really thrive. Good location, easy to get to and a local area that embraces it. It just needs a slightly better public transport offering, particularly by rail and it'll thrive with the right operators.An interesting point pud, DSA was a private enterprise, what could the SY Mayor have done, what powers did/does he have that would have been useful in preventing of DSA closing without the support of the government?Here you go Skippy,https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/potential-use-of-funding-settlements-for-doncaster-sheffield-airportIt doesn't answer the questions I asked spotty, maybe there's more than a slow internet connection?
Quote from: SydneyRover on March 23, 2024, 12:39:33 amQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on March 22, 2024, 11:51:06 amPersonally on the politics of it;Fletcher is right to raise a number of points, the local devolved politicians have made mistakes, particularly the SY mayor who could and should have done much more.They are then quite right to call out that the conservative government has offered nothing of note throughout the issue, including him.The local council have IMO so far done a brilliant job at doing this in a professional, quiet manner following clear processes, though I still believe the SY mayor should have intervened before closure in a much better way.But overall actually the campaigning from all sides has driven a strong outcome and that's vital in politics. Fletcher has talked some proper rubbish at times but that constant pressure does help to keep the local authorities on their toes. It's vital we have that in this area rather than a one party monopoly. It's created good debate regardless of doing much of substance.I think a lease led by the authorities but run by a good private operator is a good way forward, it would probably be stronger if the site was owned, but a long lease is as good as that. What I think has been clear is that the local population don't want another warehouse site, it wants an airport and it's an airport that if they get it right can really thrive. Good location, easy to get to and a local area that embraces it. It just needs a slightly better public transport offering, particularly by rail and it'll thrive with the right operators.An interesting point pud, DSA was a private enterprise, what could the SY Mayor have done, what powers did/does he have that would have been useful in preventing of DSA closing without the support of the government?Here you go Skippy,https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/potential-use-of-funding-settlements-for-doncaster-sheffield-airport
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on March 22, 2024, 11:51:06 amPersonally on the politics of it;Fletcher is right to raise a number of points, the local devolved politicians have made mistakes, particularly the SY mayor who could and should have done much more.They are then quite right to call out that the conservative government has offered nothing of note throughout the issue, including him.The local council have IMO so far done a brilliant job at doing this in a professional, quiet manner following clear processes, though I still believe the SY mayor should have intervened before closure in a much better way.But overall actually the campaigning from all sides has driven a strong outcome and that's vital in politics. Fletcher has talked some proper rubbish at times but that constant pressure does help to keep the local authorities on their toes. It's vital we have that in this area rather than a one party monopoly. It's created good debate regardless of doing much of substance.I think a lease led by the authorities but run by a good private operator is a good way forward, it would probably be stronger if the site was owned, but a long lease is as good as that. What I think has been clear is that the local population don't want another warehouse site, it wants an airport and it's an airport that if they get it right can really thrive. Good location, easy to get to and a local area that embraces it. It just needs a slightly better public transport offering, particularly by rail and it'll thrive with the right operators.An interesting point pud, DSA was a private enterprise, what could the SY Mayor have done, what powers did/does he have that would have been useful in preventing of DSA closing without the support of the government?
Personally on the politics of it;Fletcher is right to raise a number of points, the local devolved politicians have made mistakes, particularly the SY mayor who could and should have done much more.They are then quite right to call out that the conservative government has offered nothing of note throughout the issue, including him.The local council have IMO so far done a brilliant job at doing this in a professional, quiet manner following clear processes, though I still believe the SY mayor should have intervened before closure in a much better way.But overall actually the campaigning from all sides has driven a strong outcome and that's vital in politics. Fletcher has talked some proper rubbish at times but that constant pressure does help to keep the local authorities on their toes. It's vital we have that in this area rather than a one party monopoly. It's created good debate regardless of doing much of substance.I think a lease led by the authorities but run by a good private operator is a good way forward, it would probably be stronger if the site was owned, but a long lease is as good as that. What I think has been clear is that the local population don't want another warehouse site, it wants an airport and it's an airport that if they get it right can really thrive. Good location, easy to get to and a local area that embraces it. It just needs a slightly better public transport offering, particularly by rail and it'll thrive with the right operators.
Why does every thread that you are involved in seem to end in an argument. Whoever you are talking to?This can’t be a coincidence surely?
Quote from: idler on March 23, 2024, 10:42:00 pmWhy does every thread that you are involved in seem to end in an argument. Whoever you are talking to?This can’t be a coincidence surely?Idler, I think you need to go back through the whole topic and see where the blame lies before you point the bone at anyone.Look who use childish epithets when they don't have answers and who use op-eds which they regard as evidence.Start from post #366 when new information was posted then look to see who wants to discuss it and who is looking for an argument.
Quote from: SydneyRover on March 23, 2024, 10:46:43 pmQuote from: idler on March 23, 2024, 10:42:00 pmWhy does every thread that you are involved in seem to end in an argument. Whoever you are talking to?This can’t be a coincidence surely?Idler, I think you need to go back through the whole topic and see where the blame lies before you point the bone at anyone.Look who use childish epithets when they don't have answers and who use op-eds which they regard as evidence.Start from post #366 when new information was posted then look to see who wants to discuss it and who is looking for an argument.Syd I am not on about this thread. I am talking about numerous threads. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but you seeem to get embroiled in arguments on almost every thread that you are involved in. I skip numerous threads like this missing any positive contribution that you might make because of of seemingly pointless posts.
I saw a mock up with graphics on Terminal showing "South Yorkshire City Airport"Is that a "thing"However as with the political rumblings on here it wouldn't matter (to me) what they called it as long as it was operating againIt is a total waste and almost a wasteland when you visit or pass through these days
When I say this I say it as someone who wants Doncaster Airport to succeed , provide jobs and contribute to the economy of South Yorkshire .I'm also speaking as someone who isn't from Doncaster but none the less is a holidaymaker Doncaster Airport wants to attract in good numbers .I've always thought it was a bit of a ball ache to get to from where I live , I can get to Manchester , East Midlands or Leeds / Bradford easier and less if not the same amount of time .Personally East Midlands is my choice if it fits where we are going and the flight times are acceptable .Manchester isn't really my pot of char , too busy and I'm not the best flyer so I don't need the stress but I'll fly from there if it fits our criteria .Leeds / Bradford we've never flown from as yet but it's an option before I'd consider Doncaster .We like East Midlands because it's a breeze to get to , it's not mega busy and easy to negotiate , we leave the car five minutes walk away from the terminal and it's reasonably priced , £70 for a week .I could well be missing a trick with Doncaster Airport and someone can make a case for us giving it a go in the future .
When I say this I say it as someone who wants Doncaster Airport to succeed , provide jobs and contribute to the economy of South Yorkshire .I'm also speaking as someone who isn't from Doncaster but none the less is a holidaymaker Doncaster Airport wants to attract in good numbers .I've always thought it was a bit of a ball ache to get to from where I live , I can get to Manchester , East Midlands or Leeds / Bradford easier and less if not the same amount of time .Personally East Midlands is my choice if it fits where we are going and the flight times are acceptable .Manchester isn't really my pot of char , too busy and I'm not the best flyer so I don't need the stress but I'll fly from there if it fits our criteria .Leeds / Bradford we've never flown from as yet but it's an option before I'd consider Doncaster .We like East Midlands because it's a breeze to get to , it's not mega busy and easy to negotiate , we leave the car five minutes walk away from the terminal and it's reasonably priced , £70 for a week .I could well be missing a trick with Doncaster Airport and someone can make a case for us giving it a go in the future .
Quote from: tyke1962 on March 24, 2024, 10:32:20 amWhen I say this I say it as someone who wants Doncaster Airport to succeed , provide jobs and contribute to the economy of South Yorkshire .I'm also speaking as someone who isn't from Doncaster but none the less is a holidaymaker Doncaster Airport wants to attract in good numbers .I've always thought it was a bit of a ball ache to get to from where I live , I can get to Manchester , East Midlands or Leeds / Bradford easier and less if not the same amount of time .Personally East Midlands is my choice if it fits where we are going and the flight times are acceptable .Manchester isn't really my pot of char , too busy and I'm not the best flyer so I don't need the stress but I'll fly from there if it fits our criteria .Leeds / Bradford we've never flown from as yet but it's an option before I'd consider Doncaster .We like East Midlands because it's a breeze to get to , it's not mega busy and easy to negotiate , we leave the car five minutes walk away from the terminal and it's reasonably priced , £70 for a week .I could well be missing a trick with Doncaster Airport and someone can make a case for us giving it a go in the future .Obvs not sure exactly where you live Tyke. But just done a quick Google maps search of Barnsley to East Mids and Barnsley to Donny Airport. 1 hour and 5 to East Mids and 35 mins to Donny.Just under 10 mins from the motorway. So I would say incredibly easy to get to.
Quote from: rtid88 on March 24, 2024, 11:41:50 amQuote from: tyke1962 on March 24, 2024, 10:32:20 amWhen I say this I say it as someone who wants Doncaster Airport to succeed , provide jobs and contribute to the economy of South Yorkshire .I'm also speaking as someone who isn't from Doncaster but none the less is a holidaymaker Doncaster Airport wants to attract in good numbers .I've always thought it was a bit of a ball ache to get to from where I live , I can get to Manchester , East Midlands or Leeds / Bradford easier and less if not the same amount of time .Personally East Midlands is my choice if it fits where we are going and the flight times are acceptable .Manchester isn't really my pot of char , too busy and I'm not the best flyer so I don't need the stress but I'll fly from there if it fits our criteria .Leeds / Bradford we've never flown from as yet but it's an option before I'd consider Doncaster .We like East Midlands because it's a breeze to get to , it's not mega busy and easy to negotiate , we leave the car five minutes walk away from the terminal and it's reasonably priced , £70 for a week .I could well be missing a trick with Doncaster Airport and someone can make a case for us giving it a go in the future .Obvs not sure exactly where you live Tyke. But just done a quick Google maps search of Barnsley to East Mids and Barnsley to Donny Airport. 1 hour and 5 to East Mids and 35 mins to Donny.Just under 10 mins from the motorway. So I would say incredibly easy to get to.I'm right on the Barnsley - Wakefield border so I reckon M1 South , M18 would be fine .What's happened is bear with me , we've lived over the East side of Barnsley during the time Robin Hood has been opened before moving back over this way last year , the wife had relatives in Rossington and we've always gone in through Balby , Racecourse roundabout to Rossington and more times than not the traffic is horrendous and it's distorted my view of getting to Robin Hood .Will look at this from now on .
Quote from: tyke1962 on March 24, 2024, 10:32:20 amWhen I say this I say it as someone who wants Doncaster Airport to succeed , provide jobs and contribute to the economy of South Yorkshire .I'm also speaking as someone who isn't from Doncaster but none the less is a holidaymaker Doncaster Airport wants to attract in good numbers .I've always thought it was a bit of a ball ache to get to from where I live , I can get to Manchester , East Midlands or Leeds / Bradford easier and less if not the same amount of time .Personally East Midlands is my choice if it fits where we are going and the flight times are acceptable .Manchester isn't really my pot of char , too busy and I'm not the best flyer so I don't need the stress but I'll fly from there if it fits our criteria .Leeds / Bradford we've never flown from as yet but it's an option before I'd consider Doncaster .We like East Midlands because it's a breeze to get to , it's not mega busy and easy to negotiate , we leave the car five minutes walk away from the terminal and it's reasonably priced , £70 for a week .I could well be missing a trick with Doncaster Airport and someone can make a case for us giving it a go in the future .If you’re not the best of flyers, you’d never go Leeds Bradford again if you get a windy landing
Update on the Airport from Ros Jones, says TUI are interested in coming back to the Airport if it re-opens.https://www.facebook.com/100046941052068/posts/pfbid0CnZJRYTwGbp8MsQ4J7n4bBw63PFdrU7fbqLQF4UEFbBqfi3weuXyD8yWNyyBRWEPl/?app=fbl
Coppard through with an open net decides to run all the way back to his own net for an own goal. We've gone from Ros Jones saying passenger flights will be 2026 to Coppard saying it'll be 2028 if it does even happen at all.https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/politics/doncaster-sheffield-airport-no-passenger-flights-until-2028-5289072Reform don't need to do much, Labour are doing it all for them.Thank f*ck for devolution, the lovely people of Doncaster will get... *checks notes*... Better trams for Sheffield.
Absolute shambles. Jones campaigned solely on this as her big pledge yet seemingly getting nowhere. Just how much taxpayer money has now been spent for them to make a decision? Peel must be pissing themselves and what businesses out going to deal with an uncertain shambolic set up?
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 26, 2025, 10:26:22 pmAbsolute shambles. Jones campaigned solely on this as her big pledge yet seemingly getting nowhere. Just how much taxpayer money has now been spent for them to make a decision? Peel must be pissing themselves and what businesses out going to deal with an uncertain shambolic set up?Is anyone surprised that this was the big pledge from Jones, and shock horror, we are nowhere near getting things done.