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sedwardsdrfc

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #90 on July 19, 2022, 10:34:20 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
If we do get Hurst I wonder if the plan will be to play Rowe at left back behind him like today? Hurst sounds too good to be on the bench so we’ve a good selection problem in midfield if these players sign.

If we’re wanting to dominate games and attack teams maybe Rowe’s defensive abilities are out weighed by what he can do going forward from deep and in possession

Obviously rather we sign Maxwell but that ball might not be in our court.



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steve@dcfd

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #91 on July 19, 2022, 10:34:43 pm by steve@dcfd »
We were a good side tonight but where is the left back we don’t have a right back without Knoyle. Griffiths and Agard are a waste of time. So the club take so far then take it away. It’s not good enough.

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #92 on July 19, 2022, 10:38:51 pm by RoversAlias »
Calling Griffiths a "waste of time" at this stage is baffling to me.

dickos1

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #93 on July 19, 2022, 10:46:09 pm by dickos1 »
We were a good side tonight but where is the left back we don’t have a right back without Knoyle. Griffiths and Agard are a waste of time. So the club take so far then take it away. It’s not good enough.

What?
What’s not good enough?

Campsall rover

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #94 on July 19, 2022, 10:49:19 pm by Campsall rover »
Very encouraging performance from us tonight.

Not sure why the criticism of Younger. He played well tonight.
Yes not a natural full back I would say but a capable one. He got stuck in and never shirked a challenge.

Pleased to report that Williams didn’t miss a header tonight nor did Olowu.
It did help that Smith is no longer at Rotherham.

Rowe and Clayton showed their class. Way too good for League 2 which bodes well for us. TR at left back and did well I but his talents are totally wasted in that position.

Biggins showed promise, works hard and can pass a ball, but not quite seen the box to box runs from him yet.

Molyneux looks very promising indeed. Think we will get plenty of assists and goals from him. Going to cause problems for opposing defences that’s certain.

Tomlin is a class player. Don’t think he is fully up to speed but some of his touches and passes are sublime.

Miller, whoever did their homework on him, all I can say is well done. You have found a gem. He has pace to burn, makes intelligent runs in behind defenders, works his socks off putting defenders under pressure, pressing.
Most of all though he is a goal scorer and by heck didn’t we need one of those.

Harris the lad from Birmingham has some serious ability. Got pace, got trickery, and good awareness. He can take his man on the inside or outside and leave him for dead. No brainier signing him from what I saw tonight.

Andrews came on late as sub for Miller and is work in progress I would suggest.
He will give us a different option up front.

Griffiths played wide right again when he came on as sub. Not his natural position. He still looks a bit heavy legged.

Agard didn’t get much game time and didn’t show much in that time.

So no Maxwell. Is that good new or bad news?  Maybe he has had other offers and is binding his time.  Maybe GM didn’t want to put him in the shop window.
Scouts hovering.
We will have to wait to know the answer.  If we do miss out op it will be a pity as I think he looked very solid.

Anyway that was a very encouraging team performance tonight with some sparkling individual performances.

Rotherham will be back in league 1 next season based on that.
They were poor. Or was it us that made them look poor.  Bit of both.

The encouraging thing is we were the better team for large proportions of the match and should have won the game.
Physically we matched them and gave as good as we got, in fact better.
How many free kicks did Rotherham concede? Loads so that shows how much trouble we caused them.
Their 1st goal was a foul, blatant foul at that. How they get away with what they do on corners is mind boggling. The refs really do need to get a grip.





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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #95 on July 19, 2022, 10:53:33 pm by big fat yorkshire pudding »
Mostly agree campsall. I enjoyed watching us tonight and we've the makings of a very good side I think.  Mcsheffrey looked really comfortable as manager tonight too. Thought he seamt awkward once or twice last year but he looks much more settled and building his team.

Only pre season but signs we've moved forward.

steve@dcfd

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #96 on July 19, 2022, 11:01:11 pm by steve@dcfd »
We were a good side tonight but where is the left back we don’t have a right back without Knoyle. Griffiths and Agard are a waste of time. So the club take so far then take it away. It’s not good enough.

What?
What’s not good enough?
The full backs are not good enough Tommy should not be playing there. Younger strong tackler but no idea how t play a good fullback role Seaman weak and is not a fullback. Griffiths and Agard two we wasted money on last season

steve@dcfd

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #97 on July 19, 2022, 11:04:17 pm by steve@dcfd »
Calling Griffiths a "waste of time" at this stage is baffling to me.
Be baffled  then Alias sorry I say what I have seen tonight defensively we were not as good as Saturday and even worst when Seaman was introduced. Attacking wise when Griffiths and Agard came on we were poor
« Last Edit: July 19, 2022, 11:07:07 pm by steve@dcfd »

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #98 on July 19, 2022, 11:08:06 pm by Butchers Red »
Well if Tomlin's not up to speed yet I can't wait for when he is. Head and shoulders best player on pitch,closely followed by Clayton and Rowe. Those 3 added to the likes of Molyneux,Miller,Biggins etc and for me we have a lot to look forwards to this season.


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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #99 on July 19, 2022, 11:08:33 pm by RoversAlias »
Calling Griffiths a "waste of time" at this stage is baffling to me.
Be baffled  then Alias sorry I say what I have seen tonight

Entitled to your opinion of course but I think its harsh Steve.  He did okay last season when playing his first senior football and when he wasn't fully fit. He played only off the bench out wide tonight, hard to judge him on that even taking away the fact it was a pre-season game. Griffiths is 22 years old and has less than 20 league games to his name. Writing him off like you have there is unfair in my view.

We also won't be starting the season with no full-backs, despite playing without any tonight. Knoyle will be back in soon and we will sign a dedicated left-back.

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #100 on July 19, 2022, 11:12:12 pm by Alan Southstand »
The truth of the matter is we havn’t a great deal if Miller gets injured! I look at the 4 we’ve got and Miller is head and shoulders above any of the other 3.

We need to wrap him in cotton wool.

Campsall rover

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #101 on July 19, 2022, 11:17:36 pm by Campsall rover »
Get Maxwell, Tomlin & Harris and we are good to go.

When I say go I mean go back up to League 1
Yes we have the makings of a very good side.

The fitness improvement compared to last season is massive.
The work rate is there, which wasn’t last season.
The team work and understanding is coming together.
The physicality has improved out of all recognition compared to last season.
When we lose the ball we go and win it back.

The team spirit, desire and belief is all there for all to see.

Yes we haven’t kicked a ball in the League yet I know, but it’s stands out like a sore thumb that we have the makings of a team that are going to do us proud this season.

It is hard to believe that we were watching some of these same players last season performing to the standard they are now doing.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2022, 11:20:37 pm by Campsall rover »

Campsall rover

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #102 on July 19, 2022, 11:33:12 pm by Campsall rover »
Calling Griffiths a "waste of time" at this stage is baffling to me.
Be baffled  then Alias sorry I say what I have seen tonight defensively we were not as good as Saturday and even worst when Seaman was introduced. Attacking wise when Griffiths and Agard came on we were poor
When they came on and played most of their mins after Biggins, Molyneux, Tomlin and Harris had gone off.
We were a bit disjointed in last 10/15 mins.

There is no way Steve you can right Griffiths or Agard off based on the time they got tonight or on Saturday.

Personally I think Agard would be better wide with Griffiths down the middle.
That I found somewhat baffling fron GM tonight and on Saturday.
Agard in fact played in the hole where Tomlin played.

Look it takes time for players to build an understanding with each other.
Some of them have not had much game time yet & have played only a limited no of mins with certain other individuals.

dickos1

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #103 on July 19, 2022, 11:43:24 pm by dickos1 »
We were a good side tonight but where is the left back we don’t have a right back without Knoyle. Griffiths and Agard are a waste of time. So the club take so far then take it away. It’s not good enough.

What?
What’s not good enough?
The full backs are not good enough Tommy should not be playing there. Younger strong tackler but no idea how t play a good fullback role Seaman weak and is not a fullback. Griffiths and Agard two we wasted money on last season

You do always do your best to search for the most negative viewpoint on any possible subject.
The signings we’ve made so far have been very good but you’ve never mentioned them, the results we’ve had the performances we’ve had have all been good but you’ve never mentioned them.
Always looking for something that youre not happy with

Alan Southstand

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #104 on July 19, 2022, 11:49:02 pm by Alan Southstand »
And your verdict on the game/players tonight, Dickos?

Campsall rover

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #105 on July 20, 2022, 12:01:14 am by Campsall rover »
Sorry I have been saying Harris and his name is Hurst.  :zzz:

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #106 on July 20, 2022, 12:13:41 am by danumdon »
Get Maxwell, Tomlin & Harris and we are good to go.

When I say go I mean go back up to League 1
Yes we have the makings of a very good side.

The fitness improvement compared to last season is massive.
The work rate is there, which wasn’t last season.
The team work and understanding is coming together.
The physicality has improved out of all recognition compared to last season.
When we lose the ball we go and win it back.

The team spirit, desire and belief is all there for all to see.

Yes we haven’t kicked a ball in the League yet I know, but it’s stands out like a sore thumb that we have the makings of a team that are going to do us proud this season.

It is hard to believe that we were watching some of these same players last season performing to the standard they are now doing.


This sounds very positive, really wanted to go tonight but went on a wild goose chase to Seamer instead!

Good to hear that the side look to be a lot fitter than this time last year, if we build on this now it will stand us in good stead later in the season.

Just need some good news on the full backs front to finish it off.

steve@dcfd

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #107 on July 20, 2022, 05:09:25 am by steve@dcfd »
We were a good side tonight but where is the left back we don’t have a right back without Knoyle. Griffiths and Agard are a waste of time. So the club take so far then take it away. It’s not good enough.

What?
What’s not good enough?
The full backs are not good enough Tommy should not be playing there. Younger strong tackler but no idea how t play a good fullback role Seaman weak and is not a fullback. Griffiths and Agard two we wasted money on last season

You do always do your best to search for the most negative viewpoint on any possible subject.
The signings we’ve made so far have been very good but you’ve never mentioned them, the results we’ve had the performances we’ve had have all been good but you’ve never mentioned them.
Always looking for something that youre not happy with
That’s the most disappointing thing we are close to having a better side but having gone all preseason with no left back we are still in that position. The signings are an improvement. Until Knoyle is fit we haven’t got a RB. Did you go tonight and see the performance which was good in most parts or have a dig from afar
« Last Edit: July 20, 2022, 05:25:58 am by steve@dcfd »

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #108 on July 20, 2022, 05:40:19 am by roversdude »
Good performance last night we should have won by at least a couple of goals, their keeper pulled off a worldie to prevent Tomlin and then did well to keep out Molyneux.
Full backs still the weak link both Tommy and Younger seem to go too narrow and Seaman (although he’d just come on TBF) should have dealt with the ball easily that resulted in their goal
Overall it’s been a good preseason so far and there seems a bit of a buzz around the place
I also agree with the comment about GMC he’s grown into that job, got a good team behind him and Copps too

dickos1

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #109 on July 20, 2022, 06:31:36 am by dickos1 »
We were a good side tonight but where is the left back we don’t have a right back without Knoyle. Griffiths and Agard are a waste of time. So the club take so far then take it away. It’s not good enough.

What?
What’s not good enough?
The full backs are not good enough Tommy should not be playing there. Younger strong tackler but no idea how t play a good fullback role Seaman weak and is not a fullback. Griffiths and Agard two we wasted money on last season

You do always do your best to search for the most negative viewpoint on any possible subject.
The signings we’ve made so far have been very good but you’ve never mentioned them, the results we’ve had the performances we’ve had have all been good but you’ve never mentioned them.
Always looking for something that youre not happy with
That’s the most disappointing thing we are close to having a better side but having gone all preseason with no left back we are still in that position. The signings are an improvement. Until Knoyle is fit we haven’t got a RB. Did you go tonight and see the performance which was good in most parts or have a dig from afar

We’re not close to having a better team than last season, it’s a fact that we have a better team now than last season.
My dig had nothing to do with the teams performance last night, it’s more to do with over the top negativity when we’re having a really good pre season

steve@dcfd

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #110 on July 20, 2022, 06:41:57 am by steve@dcfd »
Just a note Ayo appears to have dislocated his shoulder/collar bone last night playing for Cheltenham he was having another good game according to their supporters
« Last Edit: July 20, 2022, 06:54:07 am by steve@dcfd »

steve@dcfd

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #111 on July 20, 2022, 06:44:58 am by steve@dcfd »
Dickos wasn’t comparing to last season I was comparing to the better sides we’ve had. But without good fullbacks we will not see the best from this side.
We also need to ensure we sign the Trialists that have played Maxwell Hurst and Tomlin as they have contributed to the good preseason.
Before we all get carried away Bradford our first game beat Sunderland last night 2. 0
« Last Edit: July 20, 2022, 07:18:50 am by steve@dcfd »

dickos1

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #112 on July 20, 2022, 07:15:28 am by dickos1 »
We should only be comparing to last season, what would be the point in comparing to a side 10 years ago.
Knoyle starts back training tomorrow so don’t see the need in another right back,
Left back is important but I’ve every confidence we will have one in, whether it’s maxwell or not who knows

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #113 on July 20, 2022, 07:59:06 am by Monkcaster_Rover »
Enjoyed the game last night.
Mitchell will suffice in league 2. Need to be mindful of corners right down his gullet. He's not big or strong enough to deal with them.
The fact Ro & Joe played 90 minutes for me suggests they'll be our pairing for the season. Plenty of talking from Ro which was good.
I hope Maxwell has gone north of the border to say ta-ra to his family before signing for us.
Seaman isn't a right back.
I hope Tomlin signs. Him and Clayton link up well. Playing some lovely stuff.
Hurst is worth signing.
George Miller top goal scorer at 33/1 is worth a few quid of anyone's money.

Richard Wood wasn't good enough for the Championship 5 years ago, never mind now. Shame for them but we'll be reunited next season. Just saw an interview with Warne stating that they had everything in place for a player coming in but were gazumped right at the last by a league 1 team.

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #114 on July 20, 2022, 08:07:04 am by ncRover »
Skybet have Agard on the same odds as Miller for top scorer!

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« Reply #115 on July 20, 2022, 08:25:09 am by Alan Southstand »
If Rotherham think they’re poor:

“Sheffield United boss Paul Heckingbottom provides a transfer update after their 3-0 friendly defeat at Mansfield. “

Puts our pre-season into perspective. We have to be ready - this season is going to be difficult.


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« Reply #116 on July 20, 2022, 08:52:11 am by ncRover »
Bradford beat Sunderland 2-0 last night as well

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« Reply #117 on July 20, 2022, 08:54:02 am by Dare to dream! »
Despite making some good signings I’ve been worried about the upcoming season due to a lack of faith in McCsheffrey.

After watching last night I think we could do ok, we played the ball on the floor and we looked like we had an actual game plan.

I noticed last night that Gary Mac has brought in quite a number of back room staff who all looked very hands on. This can only help him and the players.

Has anyone seen the video of the Spurs players doing lengths after the game? The staff last night had most of the players doing lengths before the game had even started and most of them looked wiped before the game had started! Fitness should be no issue this year. 

Bring on Bradford!
« Last Edit: July 20, 2022, 08:56:48 am by Dare to dream! »

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Re: So what about Rotherham?
« Reply #118 on July 20, 2022, 09:15:34 am by ravenrover »
Bradford beat Sunderland 2-0 last night as well
We beat Huddersfield don't forget

steve@dcfd

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« Reply #119 on July 20, 2022, 10:59:15 am by steve@dcfd »
GMC talks about the positivity from last night he’s right I felt there was same as Huddersfield game. Yet two players from the starting lineup were not ours yet last that wants sorting. GMC and Copps need to make sure we sign Maxwell as we have no left back.

 

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