Jeremy Corbyn Hits Back

[tyke1962]

I'd like to see posters thoughts on the video in the link .

I'd especially like to see if posters believe these allegations are accurate and if they are what is it saying about the current Labour Party and it's leader .


https://youtu.be/tglgldqEHpE

[phil old leake]

Interesting response.  Is he now trying to do to KS what he is accusing others of doing to him

I can see that he will be a real pain to KS and he isn’t going away. 

[drfchound]

Interesting response.  Is he now trying to do to KS what he is accusing others of doing to him

I can see that he will be a real pain to KS and he isn’t going away.

It will be interesting to see whether those who supported Corbyn up to 2019, then denounced him as rubbish, will get behind him again because of Starmers failings.

[albie]

Internal Labour unease from black women about Keith and the racism outlined by Forde:
https://gal-dem.com/labour-members-keir-starmer-inaction-racism-forde/

Indecision and inaction are not viable strategies for resolving serious concerns like these.

[drfchound]

Internal Labour unease from black women about Keith and the racism outlined by Forde:
https://gal-dem.com/labour-members-keir-starmer-inaction-racism-forde/

Indecision and inaction are not viable strategies for resolving serious concerns like these.

“Starmer did what he always does, nothing”.
You have to laugh at the people who back this man as a potential future PM.

[Bentley Bullet]

BST and his mates on here would gush over Adolf Hitler if he led the Labour party.

[BigH]

Interesting response.  Is he now trying to do to KS what he is accusing others of doing to him

I can see that he will be a real pain to KS and he isn’t going away. 

He’s a pain to everyone. The very essence of the man. A protest politician who will always find some cause or other to get his teeth into other than the ones that matter to most people.

Unfortunately, his legacy will be one of facilitating the most right wing UK government of modern times.

[BillyStubbsTears]

BST and his mates on here would gush over Adolf Hitler if he led the Labour party.

I suggest you have a break. You've lost it.

[Branton Red]

Internal Labour unease from black women about Keith and the racism outlined by Forde:
https://gal-dem.com/labour-members-keir-starmer-inaction-racism-forde/

Indecision and inaction are not viable strategies for resolving serious concerns like these.

The quotes from Labour MPs on here are hugely damning.

As a red wall voter I'm going to find it very difficult to vote for Keir Starmer as an individual to be PM - he comes across as a thoroughly reprehensible individual.

It amazes me that this story hasn't gained greater traction in the mainstream media - Dawn Butler for instance is a very prominent MP - esp given the way the issue of racism in society in recent times has been highlighted.

[BigH]

Well ‘gal-dem’ isn’t exactly a mainstream periodical Branton.

While on, I think there’s going to be quite a choice of ‘reprehensible individuals’ for PM at the next General Election (whenever that is). Just like there was at the last one.

[Bristol Red Rover]

The reason and the way Starmer got in power, what's been done in the Labour party since then, just shows what a sham, a fallacy our version of democracy is. "democracy" is the Prozac of the people.

This country needs such a radical change, JC is a relative Conservative.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Corbyn eh? First 30 seconds talking about the Forde Report.

"It's an excellent, comprehensive report. But it's wrong on all the things that criticise me. Let me now talk about all the things that criticise everyone else."

He's an irrelevance, bleating from the sidelines, while writing the next chapter in the "The Left would have won if we'd not lost" age old conspiracy story.

[wilts rover]

Interesting that half of the replies on this thread are from Tory/Johnson supporters.

Starmer wont be allowed to be PM because that would threaten too many established interests in business and society.

The higher his/Labour's poll ratings in the run-up to the GE - the more attacks on him there will be. To stop people voting Labour.

I dont think he is a particuarly good or effective leader but Starmer is as personaly responsible for problems in the current Labour Party as Corbyn was for the ones under him.

What the country needs is a proper PR system so you can vote for people who share you values - rather than moan about voting for people who dont.

[DonnyOsmond]

Corbyn eh? First 30 seconds talking about the Forde Report.

"It's an excellent, comprehensive report. But it's wrong on all the things that criticise me. Let me now talk about all the things that criticise everyone else."

He's an irrelevance, bleating from the sidelines, while writing the next chapter in the "The Left would have won if we'd not lost" age old conspiracy story.

Haven't you been openly criticising anyone on the left of the Labour party who aren't fully behind Starmer, yet you're writing off the report which shows that the right of the Labour party were sabotaging Labours chances of winning elections?

[BobG]

No. He hasn't. Billy has offered reason and analysis as he always does.

BobG

[DonnyOsmond]

No. He hasn't. Billy has offered reason and analysis as he always does.

BobG

He hasn't been criticising people on the left? You're definitely wrong on that.

[BobG]

He criticises by the use of analysis, reason and argument (in the academic sense  of 'argument')

BobG

[DonnyOsmond]

He criticises by the use of analysis, reason and argument (in the academic sense  of 'argument')

BobG

Sounds like confirmation bias to me.

BobG

[SydneyRover]

Corbyn had his chance and blew it, there's not a lot left to say just have to clean up the mess he left behind with johson helping all he can.

[tyke1962]

Corbyn had his chance and blew it, there's not a lot left to say just have to clean up the mess he left behind with johson helping all he can.

Except he didn't get his chance did he because of the various plots within the Labour Party to undermine him in the hope he wouldn't win .

It's called treason Syd .

[Bristol Red Rover]

Corbyn eh? First 30 seconds talking about the Forde Report.

"It's an excellent, comprehensive report. But it's wrong on all the things that criticise me. Let me now talk about all the things that criticise everyone else."

He's an irrelevance, bleating from the sidelines, while writing the next chapter in the "The Left would have won if we'd not lost" age old conspiracy story.

You're wrong, he's very relevant, has been for a good many years. Plenty won't touch Labour since the knives in the back display from his party. I'm surprised you aren't referring back to the Nazis and how Hitler affirmed his power.

Starmer, and the rest of the establishment bods are the ones who are irrelevant. Sorry, just is true.

[SydneyRover]

Corbyn had his chance and blew it, there's not a lot left to say just have to clean up the mess he left behind with johson helping all he can.

Except he didn't get his chance did he because of the various plots within the Labour Party to undermine him in the hope he wouldn't win .

It's called treason Syd .

tykey you're a plonka, if you don't have the required support from those in a team you move them on, put them out to grass, it's called management.

Sort of what Starmer is doing now.

[Branton Red]

We have a report and direct quotes from Labour MPs that the potential next party of Government has a serious internal issue with racism including amongst senior officials still in post and that our potential next-but-one Prime Minister has done nothing about it.

Yet: -

- practically zero on this from the mainstream media.

- this is brushed under the carpet and ignored by pro-Starmer posters on here.

Strange.

Perhaps there's some truth in BB's deliberately OTT quotation "BST and his mates on here would gush over Adolf Hitler if he led the Labour party."

Do certain posters on here not care by whom and by what means a centrist, outwardly socially liberal (ironic given these accusations) Labour Government is achieved so long as it is achieved??

This is the problem with ideologues.

[SydneyRover]

Maybe you should point out which media is ignoring this as the majority of UK media as discussed on here many times is mainly centre, centre right, nutty right and they normally use any lever to undermine labour true or not.

[tyke1962]

Corbyn had his chance and blew it, there's not a lot left to say just have to clean up the mess he left behind with johson helping all he can.

Except he didn't get his chance did he because of the various plots within the Labour Party to undermine him in the hope he wouldn't win .

It's called treason Syd .

tykey you're a plonka, if you don't have the required support from those in a team you move them on, put them out to grass, it's called management.

Sort of what Starmer is doing now.

I'm totally aware this is probably something you don't understand given that your mindset goes along the lines of " if you aren't with us then you must be against us " .

However I'll give it a try , God loves a trier .

Ever heard of trying to sort out internal differences by dialogue and compromise and as a party in opposition presenting a united front .

The only thing Corbyn was guilty of was naively trusting the drunken pirates on the centre right of the Labour Party and the viper Shadow Minister for Brexit .

At least Mandelson came straight out with it whilst that back stabbing bstrd , treacherous viper Keith lied his way to the Labour leadership .

Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to see you lot on two knees begging the Dems to prop you up to form a government .

What goes around comes around , go in to government with the Dems and giving up FPTP in a deal will see you lot where you belong .

In the political graveyard next to the Whigs .

[SydneyRover]

Corbyn had his chance and blew it, there's not a lot left to say just have to clean up the mess he left behind with johson helping all he can.

Except he didn't get his chance did he because of the various plots within the Labour Party to undermine him in the hope he wouldn't win .

It's called treason Syd .

tykey you're a plonka, if you don't have the required support from those in a team you move them on, put them out to grass, it's called management.

Sort of what Starmer is doing now.

I'm totally aware this is probably something you don't understand given that your mindset goes along the lines of " if you aren't with us then you must be against us " .

However I'll give it a try , God loves a trier .

Ever heard of trying to sort out internal differences by dialogue and compromise and as a party in opposition presenting a united front .

The only thing Corbyn was guilty of was naively trusting the drunken pirates on the centre right of the Labour Party and the viper Shadow Minister for Brexit .

At least Mandelson came straight out with it whilst that back stabbing bstrd , treacherous viper Keith lied his way to the Labour leadership .

Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to see you lot on two knees begging the Dems to prop you up to form a government .

What goes around comes around , go in to government with the Dems and giving up FPTP in a deal will see you lot where you belong .

In the political graveyard next to the Whigs .

You're totally aware of nothing tyke, if the answer to the party was what you wrote above why didn't corbyn do it?

[scawsby steve]

Interesting response.  Is he now trying to do to KS what he is accusing others of doing to him

I can see that he will be a real pain to KS and he isn’t going away. 

He’s a pain to everyone. The very essence of the man. A protest politician who will always find some cause or other to get his teeth into other than the ones that matter to most people.

Unfortunately, his legacy will be one of facilitating the most right wing UK government of modern times.

When you look at all the red wall seats lost in the North and North-East, BigH, and the reason why, you'll find it was Keith who facilitated that.

[scawsby steve]

He criticises by the use of analysis, reason and argument (in the academic sense  of 'argument')

BobG

You mean analysis, reason, and argument that YOU agree with.

[BillyStubbsTears]

"that back stabbing bstrd , treacherous viper Keith"

You are an embarrassment to yourself. Grow up man.

[tyke1962]

"that back stabbing bstrd , treacherous viper Keith"

You are an embarrassment to yourself. Grow up man.

Aye and doesn't the truth hurt .