truss

[Donnywolf]

Working majority down to 71 now

[BillyStubbsTears]

Here's an indication of how f**ked this Government is.


You'll need to sit down before you read this, because if it doesn't make you feel dizzy, you've not been watching politics this last 20 years.










Ready?








Ian Duncan Smith says the Govt isn't being generous enough on benefits.

[MachoMadness]

Weird how a catastrophic drop in the polls focuses the mind on issues like poverty.

[wilts rover]

Red Wall Voting Intention (3-4 Oct.):

Labour 61% (+12)
Conservative 23% (-11)
Reform UK 3% (-4)
Liberal Democrat 7% (+2)
Green 4% (–)
Other 2% (+1)

Changes +/- 19-20 Sept.

https://twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1577327686430511104

[wilts rover]

Liz Truss Red Wall Net Approval Rating (3-4 October):

All Red Wall Voters

Disapprove: 56% (+35)
Approve: 18% (-10)
Net: -38% (-45)

2019 Conservative Voters

Disapprove: 50% (+40)
Approve: 29% (-17)
Net: -21% (-57)

Changes +/- 19-20 September

https://twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1577332776755494915

[wilts rover]

At this moment, which of the following do Red Wall voters think would be the better PM for the UK? (3-4 October)

Keir Starmer 47% (+14)
Liz Truss 22% (-18)
Don't Know 31% (+4)

Changes +/- 19-20 September

https://twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1577330257140613120

[MachoMadness]

https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1577280321955004416?t=vXuA6m-j9ewPIymc6Dafiw&s=19

This interview is quite something. Truss has smashed a load of benzos beforehand and forgotten how mortgages work.

[turnbull for england]

You've got to have a dream

https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1577272972318048256?t=cbO2CxC2OEekNmP7yTvH_w&s=19

[Glyn_Wigley]

How a new PM can hit the ground thudding.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Is this THE most moronic comment in history by a political figure?

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1577342061698859018


f**k me. "Yes the Tories are in trouble but everything changes if there is a nuclear war".

Get the f**kers out into the wilderness and let them spend two decades figuring out what Conservativism means in the modern world. Because they are totally lacking any purpose or philosophy.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I mean. What f**ked up mind does it take to think about the possibility of nuclear war as a mechanism that might save the Party from its absolute uselessness.

Jesus wept.

[BillyStubbsTears]

And meanwhile, here's another Tory gem. Looking at raising the state pension age again. Because "people on average are living longer."

Except they are not. One of the most shocking facts is that after a century and a half of life expectancy increasing, it has not increased in the past decade of this shit shower being in charge.

[SydneyRover]

I wonder if many had poverty on their death certificates .........

''Over 330,000 excess deaths in Great Britain linked to austerity, finds study
Research comes as government signals fresh round of public spending cuts''

''The authors of the study suggest additional deaths between 2012 and 2019 – prior to the Covid pandemic – reflect an increase in people dying prematurely after experiencing reduced income, ill-health, poor nutrition and housing, and social isolation.

Previously improving mortality trends started to change for the worse after austerity policies introduced in 2010 when tens of billions of pounds began to be cut from public spending by the Tory-led coalition government, the study said''

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/oct/05/over-330000-excess-deaths-in-great-britain-linked-to-austerity-finds-study

[wilts rover]

Commentator on the Tory Party post Johnson:

"The ringmaster has left the circus, and now the lions are eating the clowns."

[SydneyRover]

It's hard to put into words the rubbish coming out of the truss mouth.

[SydneyRover]

More than 12 years since the tory government was elected in 2010 this:

truss

''I will not allow the anti-growth coalition to hold us back: Labour, the Lib Dems, the SNP, the militant unions, the vested interests, the talking heads, the Brexit deniers, Extinction Rebellion and some of the people we had in the hall earlier.

I will not allow the anti-growth coalition to hold us back''

[BillyStubbsTears]

More than 12 years since the tory government was elected in 2010 this:

truss

''I will not allow the anti-growth coalition to hold us back: Labour, the Lib Dems, the SNP, the militant unions, the vested interests, the talking heads, the Brexit deniers, Extinction Rebellion and some of the people we had in the hall earlier.

I will not allow the anti-growth coalition to hold us back''

That
Is
A
Disgrace.

Seriously, it is beyond shameless.

The last Labour Govt had a superb record on inflation-free  growth for a decade u to the Global Financial Crash. Our GDP per capita grew at 2.2% per year, which meant by 2007, the country was 25% richer than it had been in 1997.

Yes, as everywhere in the world, GDP crashed badly in the GFC in 2008, but by 2009 we were already back to >2% growth and ready to make up the ground. But the entire debate in the 2010 election was about the deficit and the need for Austerity. Labour warned that would throttle growth. We had extensive debates about it in here. But the Tories won. And Truss was a minister throughout the Austerity Decade.

The result? GDP per capita growth in the 2010s dropped to just over 1% per year, even before COVID. We have lost hundreds of billions of pounds of productive output because of an utterly stupid economic policy choice by the Tories.

And this dead eyed non-entity has the f**king gall to blame that on everyone but the Tories.

[Redroy]

Everything about the current Tory party is just exhausting. This identification of enemies constantly is just so draining and I think the benefit of it has ran its course. People are going to look at this anti-growth coalition shite and see right through it. People who have concerns about immigration/want to see us being much stricter on immigration would just be grossed out by the way the Tory Party talk about it too - 'it's my dream to have a flight off to Rwanda by Christmas' or whatever Suella Braverman said. Just gross (not to mention weird). Talk about it in a serious way you f**king clowns.

[danumdon]

Just sat here watching this thread become a parody of itself.

Its like a lefty feeding frenzy, posters jostling amongst themselves to post the most appalling reply.

Gents, everyone's aware that the Tories have managed to unserp themselves and have now started to eat themselves alive.

But seriously its not a good look from supposedly grown men, some need to put the phone down and have a day off.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Been saying for years. They have absolutely no guiding philosophy. Just a list of people they define themselves as being against

Labour,
The EU
Anyone who isn't a bigoted t**t.

The one and only strategy they have is to play the Culture War. But that won't put food on people's tables. And I do think the majority of the British people will see this for what it is. A pathetic attempt to blame everyone else for the failings of a decade and a half of Conservativism.

[wilts rover]

I notice the Anti-Growth Coalition (otherwise known as the world financial markets) have already struck back:

£ 2% down on $ since Truss' speech

https://twitter.com/BloombergUK/status/1577667079779532800

[Dutch Uncle]

Been saying for years. They have absolutely no guiding philosophy. Just a list of people they define themselves as being against

Labour,
The EU
Anyone who isn't a bigoted t**t.

The one and only strategy they have is to play the Culture War. But that won't put food on people's tables. And I do think the majority of the British people will see this for what it is. A pathetic attempt to blame everyone else for the failings of a decade and a half of Conservativism.

America sneezes and we catch a cold 

[phil old leake]

Opinion polls 2 years out from an election basically mean nothing. It’s just a flavour of the mood at the time.  We all know it would only take a bit of a scandal in the Labour Party or for the economy to grow and peoples minds soon change.  Some voters are fickle and some when questioned by pollsters just lie.  This isn’t saying that LT and the Tories aren’t in trouble at this time I’m just stating what to me is the obvious.  It could be something as simple as a different PM next year.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Phil, it's not the size of the lead. It's how quickly so many people have deserted the Tories. That has happened very, very rarely in polling history. That implies something has snapped that has been waiting to happen.

And here's another thing. The economic hardship ain't started yet. 2023 is going to be grim.

Still, like the Conservative Home idiot says, there might be a nuclear war yet.

[tyke1962]

Just sat here watching this thread become a parody of itself.

Its like a lefty feeding frenzy, posters jostling amongst themselves to post the most appalling reply.

Gents, everyone's aware that the Tories have managed to unserp themselves and have now started to eat themselves alive.

But seriously its not a good look from supposedly grown men, some need to put the phone down and have a day off.

Well the thing is Dizzy Lizzy and the rest of her cult have decided to call a class war , However this one is a bit different , usually it's the low paid , people on benefits , the sick and disabled or migrants getting it in the rear .

Dizzy Lizzy has extended it to include 90% of the entire UK population which unless you earn north of £150k plus a year includes yourself .

All our usual bickering , fall outs and disputes can be forgotten about really for the foreseeable although I'm sure myself and Syd will find something  .

We are all The Enemy Within now although I suspect some may not know it yet , it wont take long for them to catch up mind .

[BillyStubbsTears]

Been saying for years. They have absolutely no guiding philosophy. Just a list of people they define themselves as being against

Labour,
The EU
Anyone who isn't a bigoted t**t.

The one and only strategy they have is to play the Culture War. But that won't put food on people's tables. And I do think the majority of the British people will see this for what it is. A pathetic attempt to blame everyone else for the failings of a decade and a half of Conservativism.

America sneezes and we catch a cold 

This is where it ends up Dutch.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1577624146309177344

A senior politician winding up the gullible to hate fellow citizens. And there's a very good chance he will be the next President.

[River Don]

More than 12 years since the tory government was elected in 2010 this:

truss

''I will not allow the anti-growth coalition to hold us back: Labour, the Lib Dems, the SNP, the militant unions, the vested interests, the talking heads, the Brexit deniers, Extinction Rebellion and some of the people we had in the hall earlier.

I will not allow the anti-growth coalition to hold us back''

Labour actually supports the energy cap and a decent proportion of the tax cuts. So not anti growth. They do advocate a windfall tax to help take some of the pressure off the public purse though.

There is a large tranche of Tory MPs who are members of the anti growth club.

[belton rover]

Here's an indication of how f**ked this Government is.


You'll need to sit down before you read this, because if it doesn't make you feel dizzy, you've not been watching politics this last 20 years.










Ready?








Ian Duncan Smith says the Govt isn't being generous enough on benefits.






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Here's an indication of how f**ked this Government is.


You'll need to sit down before you read this, because if it doesn't make you feel dizzy, you've not been watching politics this last 20 years.










Ready?








Ian Duncan Smith says the Govt isn't being generous enough on benefits.

What a condescending prick you continue to be.

[River Don]

The Opec oil cartel and its allies have agreed to a bigger than expected cut in oil production targets despite significant pressure from the US. Saudi and Russia working together to cut back oil supplies. Crude prices are already rising. More inflation on the way then.

There is no chance of seeing much growth, growth, growth in the UK economy. You can't grow an economy without affordable energy.

[mugnapper]

The Opec oil cartel and its allies have agreed to a bigger than expected cut in oil production targets despite significant pressure from the US. Saudi and Russia working together to cut back oil supplies. Crude prices are already rising. More inflation on the way then.

There is no chance of seeing much growth, growth, growth in the UK economy. You can't grow an economy without affordable energy.

Saudis getting their own back because of the backlash to their State Sponsored murder of Mr Khashoggi.

At least it’ll give Newcastle more cash to spend in the January transfer window.