truss

[SydneyRover]

I gave you the benefit of the doubt in my post directly above, but if you don't produce evidence of my 'obvious dislike of Lynch' what am I to think Steve?

[BillyStubbsTears]

How long ago was it that Truss was foisted on us as PM by the Tory Party? 5 weeks?

https://news.sky.com/story/cabinet-ministers-urge-colleagues-to-hold-their-nerve-and-rally-behind-truss-or-risk-election-defeat-12716157?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

Going well int it? Four Cabinet Ministers have today felt the need to write rallying calls in the papers to get MPs to support her, while Grant Shapps has offered to replace her.

Yep, that's right. Truss is so unremittingly useless as PM, Grant Shapps reckons there's a chance the Tories might prefer his lying self instead.
 

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Things will get better for her. Ed balls was good on Andrew Neil's show saying the real difficult bit for labour is following up on what they have criticized.  People may not like that and it may help Truss.  I suspect the next election will be about who we dislike the least more than ever.

[SydneyRover]

I think it's more the tories have to turn it around, they are calling the shots, they are way behind in the polls.

[SydneyRover]

Put your football managers hat on pud, back on the field after halftime, all the subs used up and 3 goals down, desperate times mean a more exposed defence.

[Donnywolf]

How long ago was it that Truss was foisted on us as PM by the Tory Party? 5 weeks?

https://news.sky.com/story/cabinet-ministers-urge-colleagues-to-hold-their-nerve-and-rally-behind-truss-or-risk-election-defeat-12716157?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

Going well int it? Four Cabinet Ministers have today felt the need to write rallying calls in the papers to get MPs to support her, while Grant Shapps has offered to replace her.

Yep, that's right. Truss is so unremittingly useless as PM, Grant Shapps reckons there's a chance the Tories might prefer his lying self instead.
 

Shapps a man don't forget who almost ruined a Constituent who pointed out Shapps had a second job when it was illegal for an MP

The Constituent then had to issue an apology and when he did Shapps lawyers said it wasn't good enough and wrote their own for Constituent to sign. All along the Constituent KNEW he was right.

Then Shapps presided over a Meeting for the Pyramid Company (which was his second job) wearing a Badge with Michael Green printed on it. At that point he was "exposed" and turned out he used at least 3 other names such as Sebastian Fox and even a Ladies name something like Caroline Stockbridge. She used to leave positive comments on his Company

Google Grant Shapps controversies .... And it is plural ... for the totally accurate story of the above and the other stuff he's done AND still prospered

And remember folks if you get caught don't apologise  just say I didn't lie , I just over firmly denied having 2 jobs

[Bristol Red Rover]

Things will get better for her. Ed balls was good on Andrew Neil's show saying the real difficult bit for labour is following up on what they have criticized.  People may not like that and it may help Truss.  I suspect the next election will be about who we dislike the least more than ever.

The Tories have a problem in they have a leader who is far far more obviously robotic and out of touch than Starmer. Also more bonkers than Johnson. I think the Tory faithful voted for a quick handout for the wealthy, economic destruction to trip up the "socialists", and 5 years sunny holiday eatimg bananas in the Caymans.

[tyke1962]

Things will get better for her. Ed balls was good on Andrew Neil's show saying the real difficult bit for labour is following up on what they have criticized.  People may not like that and it may help Truss.  I suspect the next election will be about who we dislike the least more than ever.

The Tories have a problem in they have a leader who is far far more obviously robotic and out of touch than Starmer. Also more bonkers than Johnson. I think the Tory faithful voted for a quick handout for the wealthy, economic destruction to trip up the "socialists", and 5 years sunny holiday eatimg bananas in the Caymans.

What's even more ironic is that the wealthy Tory membership have just screwed over their main source of votes and virtually handed the Labour Party a landslide election victory .

I was watching some content last night with a bloke who owns and runs a polling company , they have to be politically impartial obviously in public but he reckons at this moment in time the Tories wouldn't win one single seat if there was an election tomorrow .

He acknowledged that it wouldn't play out in reality but none the less that's what his figures say .

Tory MP's sitting on 22k majorities are shytting bricks .

[scawsby steve]

Things will get better for her. Ed balls was good on Andrew Neil's show saying the real difficult bit for labour is following up on what they have criticized.  People may not like that and it may help Truss.  I suspect the next election will be about who we dislike the least more than ever.

The Tories have a problem in they have a leader who is far far more obviously robotic and out of touch than Starmer. Also more bonkers than Johnson. I think the Tory faithful voted for a quick handout for the wealthy, economic destruction to trip up the "socialists", and 5 years sunny holiday eatimg bananas in the Caymans.

What's even more ironic is that the wealthy Tory membership have just screwed over their main source of votes and virtually handed the Labour Party a landslide election victory .

I was watching some content last night with a bloke who owns and runs a polling company , they have to be politically impartial obviously in public but he reckons at this moment in time the Tories wouldn't win one single seat if there was an election tomorrow .

He acknowledged that it wouldn't play out in reality but none the less that's what his figures say .

Tory MP's sitting on 22k majorities are shytting bricks .

Let's be honest, Tyke. Those red wall seats weren't given to the Tories, they were lent. It was just a one-off because of Brexit, and I said so at the time.

The thing is, that 80 seat majority is soon going to be a waste of time, because several Tory MPs are planning to vote with Labour on certain emotive issues, such as universal credit.

The scale of victory for Labour in 2024 is going to be colossal.

[SydneyRover]

The result of the votes being 'lent' however is the everlasting damage to the uk economy and the tory party being in a much stronger position.

[SydneyRover]

And of course it is strengthening the resolve of Scotland to split from the Union and the chaos across the Irish/NI border is not helping there either.

[SydneyRover]

And the rise of johnson and truss, full bingo card there methinks

[scawsby steve]

And the rise of johnson and truss, full bingo card there methinks

You mean the rise and fall of Johnson and Truss.

What goes around comes around.

[normal rules]

Big spending cuts on the way no doubt. That will be Truss’s poison chalice.
The door will be left wide open for Labour to shuffle through into govt come the next election.
Does anyone know what Labours current stance is on public sector pay rises btw?

[SydneyRover]

Sounds to me you still don't accept the enormity of what has happened Steve, giving the tories life support over brexit, using the word 'lent' is an attempt to minimise participation.

https://www.eumonitor.eu/9353000/1/j9vvik7m1c3gyxp/vkyhnfcdtny2?ctx=vk4jic6t1dxz

UK Unions are talking of a general strike to maintain their positions, look at what the EU are doing.

All predictable all forecasted.

[BillyStubbsTears]

If you were deliberately trying to tank the UK economy, implementing a policy within 3 weeks of taking power  that leads America's biggest bank to conclude that you have permanently raised the cost of borrowing because the markets now think you are a risky investment would be a cool way of going about it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BruceReuters/status/1579492487370280962

Just think what damage Truss and Kwarteng might manage to do in 2 years!

And just imagine the reaction if this had been a Labour Government...

[tyke1962]

Sounds to me you still don't accept the enormity of what has happened Steve, giving the tories life support over brexit, using the word 'lent' is an attempt to minimise participation.

https://www.eumonitor.eu/9353000/1/j9vvik7m1c3gyxp/vkyhnfcdtny2?ctx=vk4jic6t1dxz

UK Unions are talking of a general strike to maintain their positions, look at what the EU are doing.

All predictable all forecasted.

There is not and never ever will be any substitute for strong trade unions in the workplace who can collectively bargain for terms and conditions .

Anything about pay in your link Syd ?

[SydneyRover]

No tyke, wasn't that covered in the brexit propaganda?

[drfchound]

Sounds to me you still don't accept the enormity of what has happened Steve, giving the tories life support over brexit, using the word 'lent' is an attempt to minimise participation.

https://www.eumonitor.eu/9353000/1/j9vvik7m1c3gyxp/vkyhnfcdtny2?ctx=vk4jic6t1dxz

UK Unions are talking of a general strike to maintain their positions, look at what the EU are doing.

All predictable all forecasted.

There is not and never ever will be any substitute for strong trade unions in the workplace who can collectively bargain for terms and conditions .

Anything about pay in your link Syd ?

Tyke, judging by what Labour have done with Sam Tarry might suggest that Labour are not backing the unions.
Deselecting him is a big statement.

[BillyStubbsTears]

If you were deliberately trying to tank the UK economy, implementing a policy within 3 weeks of taking power  that leads America's biggest bank to conclude that you have permanently raised the cost of borrowing because the markets now think you are a risky investment would be a cool way of going about it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BruceReuters/status/1579492487370280962

Just think what damage Truss and Kwarteng might manage to do in 2 years!

And just imagine the reaction if this had been a Labour Government...

As I say. Imagine if this was a Labour Government.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63211743

[Hounslowrover]

Hound, I think Sam Tarry was sacked from the shadow cabinet for what he said in the press, but even then he was undergoing deselection by his local party.

[scawsby steve]

Sounds to me you still don't accept the enormity of what has happened Steve, giving the tories life support over brexit, using the word 'lent' is an attempt to minimise participation.

https://www.eumonitor.eu/9353000/1/j9vvik7m1c3gyxp/vkyhnfcdtny2?ctx=vk4jic6t1dxz

UK Unions are talking of a general strike to maintain their positions, look at what the EU are doing.

All predictable all forecasted.

So what we suspected is true. You ARE against Trade Unions. No wonder you love Keith so much.

Speaking of Keith, if the EU is as wonderful as you say, why does he say he won't apply to re-join them when Labour gets back in?

In your own time.

[danumdon]

And of course it is strengthening the resolve of Scotland to split from the Union and the chaos across the Irish/NI border is not helping there either.

I'd imagine that a Labour/SNP link will also be a big factor in any up coming elections, whilst ever they are still part of the union they will be a very big turn off for a great many voters, both Labour and Tory. I don't know if many on here have made any sort of link with this but Keith certainly has, you only need to read his views on any sort of Lab/SNP pact, he's trying to run a mile from them and distance himself from any involvement.

I don't suppose his opponents will be slow off the mark with this.

[albie]

There is a big question mark over who Truss sidekick KamiKwasi is actually working for.

Private Eye suggested he has been on a retainer from hedge fund boss Crispin Odey, his former employer.
Now it looks like he has been doing a bit of middle east extra curricular:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/kwasi-kwarteng-saudi-oil-meetings-b2200096.html

Dubious!

[tyke1962]

Sounds to me you still don't accept the enormity of what has happened Steve, giving the tories life support over brexit, using the word 'lent' is an attempt to minimise participation.

https://www.eumonitor.eu/9353000/1/j9vvik7m1c3gyxp/vkyhnfcdtny2?ctx=vk4jic6t1dxz

UK Unions are talking of a general strike to maintain their positions, look at what the EU are doing.

All predictable all forecasted.

There is not and never ever will be any substitute for strong trade unions in the workplace who can collectively bargain for terms and conditions .

Anything about pay in your link Syd ?

Tyke, judging by what Labour have done with Sam Tarry might suggest that Labour are not backing the unions.
Deselecting him is a big statement.

They quite like the Union Funding though Hound .

[tyke1962]

No tyke, wasn't that covered in the brexit propaganda?

Make Brexit Better

Vote Labour

Fixed it for you Syd .

[drfchound]

Hound, I think Sam Tarry was sacked from the shadow cabinet for what he said in the press, but even then he was undergoing deselection by his local party.

Fair enough Hounslow but I thought he had been reprimanded for joining a picket line as well.

[BillyStubbsTears]

f**king hell, THIS raises the stakes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63211743

The subtext here. BoE Chairman saying to the Govt "This is YOUR doing. YOU, not us, need to unshit the bed."

[SydneyRover]

No tyke, wasn't that covered in the brexit propaganda?

Make Brexit Better

Vote Labour

Fixed it for you Syd .

No you and your mates fixed it for everyone, you just have a little difficulty being truthful with yourself is all.

[SydneyRover]

Sounds to me you still don't accept the enormity of what has happened Steve, giving the tories life support over brexit, using the word 'lent' is an attempt to minimise participation.

https://www.eumonitor.eu/9353000/1/j9vvik7m1c3gyxp/vkyhnfcdtny2?ctx=vk4jic6t1dxz

UK Unions are talking of a general strike to maintain their positions, look at what the EU are doing.

All predictable all forecasted.

So what we suspected is true. You ARE against Trade Unions. No wonder you love Keith so much.

Speaking of Keith, if the EU is as wonderful as you say, why does he say he won't apply to re-join them when Labour gets back in?

In your own time.

Anytime you wish to explain why you just happen to align with trump, farage, le penn and putin I be all ears.