truss

[Glyn_Wigley]

But they'll have lined it all up surely? Nobody could be as stupid as to allow that to happen!

BobG

Boris could be the one to put a spoke in the well-planned wheel, though, by splitting the nominations wide open whilst not getting enough to stand himself.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Seriously question, is there anyone in that chamber who you would be happy with in the top seat? I'm struggling to see any statesmen/women in there who i think would be an inspired choice and would enthuse the electorate.

I'd have serious differences with any of them on policy. But after the last two idiots, anyone with a basic competence to run Government effectively would be an improvement.

That car crash last night was actually frightening, because it revealed the extent to which Govt was simply not operating.

Assuming their internal party enemies don't rip them.apart, Sunak, Hunt (I know he's not standing), Mordaunt (I guess), Javid (maybe), Wallace (definitely) as a bare minimum ought to get Government functioning, even if their policies are something I'd detest.

That's how low the bar is after Johnson and Truss.

[mugnapper]

If 3 of them get the minimum of 100 nominations, whoever wins will know that that they weren't  the 1st choice of two thirds of their own MPs .

[tyke1962]

Never in my life have I seen such a shyte show as this .

Sickens me to the stomach to see people in the street interviewed on tv wanting Johnson back , these people appear to be perfectly normal and rational .

What the feck happened to this country ?

[BillyStubbsTears]

There's a poll out today.

After crashing the economy.

After massively raising mortgage payments.

After announcing the most batshit far right budget in half a century, then ditching it all three weeks later.

After sacking a Chancellor for agreeing with the PM.

After seeing a Home Secretary storm out 6 weeks after starting.

After the absolute shit show of basic competence yesterday.

After the Deputy Chief Whip ran through Parliament last night shouting "f**k this, I've f**king had enough."

After all that, 22% of voters still say they would have voted Tory if there'd been an election today.

I heard one of them in the radio tonight. She said "Well ah think they shud a given 'er a bit more tahm".

How do these people operate in the world? How do they not poke their eyes out with a fork every time they try to eat?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Worst outcome for Labour now would be a dull, unflashy, reasonably competent safe pair of hands as PM.

Hunt or Wallace maybe. Somebody like a younger Kenneth Clarke. It might make the Tories recover in the polls.

I'd be delighted if they did get someone like that though, because we are in such a shit hole, party advantage comes a long, long way behind getting Govt working again and the country looking remotely competent. 

[Colemans Left Hook]

i  knew yesterday Penny (2 years in a job - using your feminine charm- nudge nudge -then move on ) MordUNT was gunning for the PM when yesterday the political expert said you never use the same words that have come out of the oppositions mouth when they ask a question

Penny said no she isn't under the table -- the political expert mentioned another clue that she was helping her fellow WOMAN towards  the exit door

Penny is a dopple ganger of the PM and would maybe be worse

[BillyStubbsTears]

Meanwhile, the neo-fascist Kitson Cavalcade that dragged the Tory party so far right that Truss, Kwarteng and Braverman were seen as normal are unrepentant.

https://mobile.twitter.com/flashboy/status/1582784766222684160

[scawsby steve]

In the last 2 hours, Boris has moved ahead of Sunak and Mordaunt amongst Tory MPs.

[Filo]

There's a poll out today.

After crashing the economy.

After massively raising mortgage payments.

After announcing the most batshit far right budget in half a century, then ditching it all three weeks later.

After sacking a Chancellor for agreeing with the PM.

After seeing a Home Secretary storm out 6 weeks after starting.

After the absolute shit show of basic competence yesterday.

After the Deputy Chief Whip ran through Parliament last night shouting "f**k this, I've f**king had enough."

After all that, 22% of voters still say they would have voted Tory if there'd been an election today.

I heard one of them in the radio tonight. She said "Well ah think they shud a given 'er a bit more tahm".

How do these people operate in the world? How do they not poke their eyes out with a fork every time they try to eat?

You forgot, she killed the Queen

[BobG]

Current score as at 9 pm tonight:

Johnson 41
Sunak 29
Mordaunt 14

But try this link for a bit of light relief!!

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html

Won't happen, but it's a fun thing to fantasise about

BobG

[drfchound]

If Boris were to win, we’ll I dread to think about the outcome.
Aren’t there still some things he has to defend from his earlier time in office.

[wilts rover]

Presuming Braverman etc are going to step-aside, are there 100 right-wing MP's who would support Johnson, that's the big question now?

And would Johnson, who came into office with his leveling-up slogan and 40 new hospitals etc, want to be the austerity PM who cut massively cut public services and put taxes up to a record level? Because that's the task of the next PM.

[drfchound]

Wilts, I have heard that he has around 50 backers so far.

[BobG]

He won't care a fig Wilts! Power and glory and narcissism and self aggrandisement are the only things  Boris has ever cared about. Even his Eton school reports used to comment on it.

Bob

[River Don]

Presuming Braverman etc are going to step-aside, are there 100 right-wing MP's who would support Johnson, that's the big question now?

And would Johnson, who came into office with his leveling-up slogan and 40 new hospitals etc, want to be the austerity PM who cut massively cut public services and put taxes up to a record level? Because that's the task of the next PM.

Johnson spent a night ringing around to find someone, anyone to support him. Nobody would. Is this all just forgotten?

[SydneyRover]

desperate times RD, they are looking for someone to save the party

[tyke1962]

If Boris were to win, we’ll I dread to think about the outcome.
Aren’t there still some things he has to defend from his earlier time in office.

The small matter of misleading Parliament Hound .

[drfchound]

Nothing too bad then.TICEH.

[tyke1962]

For all the Tory shenanigans and getting it big time from a vast number of Tory voters in the audience on tonight's Question Time .

Jess Philips still managed to wind me up the most with her nauseating accent and the ability to speak at a 100 words per second but still not actually say owt .

Awful woman .

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

It's a shame Wallace won't go for it or get the votes as he has that aura of someone sensible, clever and authoritative.

I agree with bst they need someone like that.  Like Sunak or not on his policy Truss has mostly proved him right.  He has to be the favourite.  But they'll all be an improvement on Truss.

I still maintain I'd call an election and let labour have it if I got elected leader. There's no win in the current world.

[SydneyRover]

the worst place in the world is opposition

[tyke1962]

Andrew Brigden already working on his letter to Graham Brady in readiness for the new PM no doubt .

Is there anyone this man has actually backed in the Tory Party ?

[mugnapper]

Worth remembering it’s only 4 months since 148 Tory MPs voted against Johnson in a Confidence vote.
How can any of them vote for him now and retain any credibility?

[BobG]

I have a sneaking desire to see Sunak elected on the basis that he is poison to the libertarian loonies. Maybe, in a dream, the loonies would then upsticks and start a new party - with the might of 55 Tufton Street behind them of course. Given their current shouting about being betrayed by the Conservative Party that would set the scene for the Tories to be split asunder.

BobG

[SydneyRover]

lettuce pray

[Colin C No.3]

It’s a wonder that the head on the statue of Winston Churchill as ‘it looks’ across at The Palace of Westminster hasn’t drooped onto its chin.

What would have this shower of shite’s response have been if Putin had unleashed a nuclear weapon on NATO soil whilst they were hastily being herded in to vote like sheep to show a vote of confidence in…I mean vote on fracking.

COBRA meeting?



Forget it.

[grayx]

Its a shame our King doesnt have the authority to turn round & demand a general election.
His country as become a laughing stock & desperately needs sorting out.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I gather Johnson is currently on holiday in the Caribbean.

That's nice int it? Two months after his holiday in his last days as PM.

[BillyStubbsTears]

This, from the editor of the Sunday Telegraph just 6 weeks ago, didn't age well.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/07/liz-truss-prove-declinist-remainer-class-humiliatingly-wrong/