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Canadian Rover

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Williams
« on October 08, 2022, 08:02:20 pm by Canadian Rover »
We are desperately missing Anderson. In this division you need a big centre half that will win ariel duels and be brave competing for the ball. The Leyton Orient goal could have been easily avoided but Williams neshed it in my opinion. He wins very little in the air; in the 2nd half when they hit the bar/top of net again it was Williams that was beat easily (and it was Williams that made the foul for that free kick too) it says a lot when we have 18 year old Faulkner as our centre of a back three. He also sits way too far back/deep which creates the midfield to be 10 yards back and thus no support for the centre forward. I really don't like singling out players however he is absolutely our weakest link in the team (or the most negative influence in our set up). It's bizzare because he's not slow and he's a bloody big lad.



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ravenrover

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Re: Williams
« Reply #1 on October 08, 2022, 08:39:01 pm by ravenrover »
Fair does the lad took the goal very well

Redroy

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Re: Williams
« Reply #2 on October 08, 2022, 08:47:59 pm by Redroy »
That banger that Mansfield scored was peak Williams. Cross comes in, rather than head it clear of danger he just nods it to the edge of the box to assist the Mansfield lad. He's not a starting centre half for a promotion chasing team

Goole Rover

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Re: Williams
« Reply #3 on October 08, 2022, 09:02:27 pm by Goole Rover »
The problem appears to me to be communicating. I only played in the Doncaster Senior League and Sunday League but we consistently shouted to each other to pick up the spare man. I know this is basic but it doesn’t seem to happen here, their goal for example he had bags of space and time.

goalkick

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Re: Williams
« Reply #4 on October 08, 2022, 09:04:07 pm by goalkick »
Good goal but Williams had ample time to get close to their player he never moved just stood there.his agility is very poor.

roversdude

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Re: Williams
« Reply #5 on October 08, 2022, 09:22:34 pm by roversdude »
Come on leaps and bounds this season

andyst79

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Re: Williams
« Reply #6 on October 08, 2022, 09:23:05 pm by andyst79 »
Good goal but Williams had ample time to get close to their player he never moved just stood there.his agility is very poor.
While I don't really rate Williams no centre half in the world could have prevented the goal. Sometimes you've just got to hold your hands up and say good goal

monkeytennis

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Re: Williams
« Reply #7 on October 08, 2022, 09:26:29 pm by monkeytennis »
It was a great goal but Williams had a shocker of a day today. Just seemed like his head wasn’t on straight.

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Re: Williams
« Reply #8 on October 08, 2022, 09:33:05 pm by drfchound »
Good goal but Williams had ample time to get close to their player he never moved just stood there.his agility is very poor.
While I don't really rate Williams no centre half in the world could have prevented the goal. Sometimes you've just got to hold your hands up and say good goal

I also think it is harsh to blame anyone for their goal today.
It was the best bit of skill seen today and any PL striker would have been proud to score that one.
If it had been on match of the day it would almost certainly be goal of the month.
Williams has his faults of course but so do most players in L2.

roversdude

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Re: Williams
« Reply #9 on October 08, 2022, 09:37:49 pm by roversdude »
What did Williams do wrong today ?

5minstogo

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Re: Williams
« Reply #10 on October 08, 2022, 09:39:54 pm by 5minstogo »
Can't really blame Williams. Molyneaux left his man with miles of space, Knoyle couldn't stop the cross and Smyth performed some kind of miracle finish

Chris the Rover

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Re: Williams
« Reply #11 on October 08, 2022, 09:56:08 pm by Chris the Rover »
I thought Williams had a decent game today. We all see things differently don’t we?

swain_drfc

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Re: Williams
« Reply #12 on October 08, 2022, 11:36:20 pm by swain_drfc »
Williams is crap. On Tuesday against Hartlepool he was the defender that was getting beat to every flick on that Hartlepool were clearly using as their tactic from goal kicks to get the ball forward early. For such a big lad he wins nothing in the air when he is challenged.

StocksArmy

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Re: Williams
« Reply #13 on October 09, 2022, 12:23:28 am by StocksArmy »
Hes absolutely abysmal. He has nothing to offer. No pace, no prescence, bad positioning, poor technically. A semi pro at best for me.

roversdude

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Re: Williams
« Reply #14 on October 09, 2022, 08:52:06 am by roversdude »
If the midfield aren’t performing it makes our defence look bad

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Re: Williams
« Reply #15 on October 09, 2022, 09:45:56 am by POD »
Williams has played in every game this season and with the defensive injury crisis which we have had, it’s a good job that he has kept himself fit and injury free.

He’s not perfect by any means and you can point out several times in games this season where he might have done better, but he is our only experienced central defender who is currently fit to play and we need him as our key defender to help the younger lads…. By the way he’s only just 24 himself and still learning the game. 

When the other three central defenders are fit and return to action, we’ll see whether he can retain his place, but for the foreseeable future he’s the first name on the team sheet in central defence.   
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Canadian Rover

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Re: Williams
« Reply #16 on October 12, 2022, 09:13:53 am by Canadian Rover »
I didn't watch the game last night.  But it appears Williams had an absolute shocker yesterday.

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Re: Williams
« Reply #17 on October 12, 2022, 09:52:16 am by selby »
  Anderson is miles away from being the player he was, and Long is decent with the ball but slow and poor defensively, last night the most outstanding fact was a complete lack of pace, against a mobile quick attack, and players like Barlow, Ravenhill, and Reo contributing nothing to the game at all in front of them.
  Once they overloaded us on the flanks when attacking they just ran past us with ease, none of our players with the pace to lay a glove on them.
 

GazLaz

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Re: Williams
« Reply #18 on October 12, 2022, 10:49:22 am by GazLaz »
Not releasing Anderson and using the money to sign a proven centre half in their prime was a big mistake.

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Re: Williams
« Reply #19 on October 12, 2022, 11:02:09 am by Dare to dream! »
How easy is it to get a good CB in his prime?

Anderson is proven and we probably didn’t know his injury would be this bad. If we can keep him fit now, he will make a big difference.

Williams had to be dropped, he simply isn’t good enough. Hell be more effective upfront just running about.

Metalmicky

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Re: Williams
« Reply #20 on October 12, 2022, 11:04:40 am by Metalmicky »
Not releasing Anderson and using the money to sign a proven centre half in their prime was a big mistake.

Yep....... there are loads out there just waiting for us to call....

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: Williams
« Reply #21 on October 12, 2022, 11:07:11 am by sedwardsdrfc »
Talking like there aren't 100s of free agents every year in the lower leagues many of whom will be decent and would play for Andersons salary which will be one of our highest earners.

Club thought it was doing the right thing if they didn't know Andersons injury problems would continue on the face of it he's a very good L2 player. So i can't say it was a mistake unless we knew his injury was going to be reoccurring.

RugbyRover

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Re: Williams
« Reply #22 on October 12, 2022, 11:20:55 am by RugbyRover »
I think:
Long looked nice and steady.
Anderson looked like he hadn't played for a month.
Seaman and Williams were really bad first half.
Griffiths has turned into a right Dodoo
Molyneux and Hurst looked good
Miller needs to stay fit.

and Jones looked good too

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: Williams
« Reply #23 on October 12, 2022, 11:52:08 am by DonnyBazR0ver »
I didn't watch the game last night.  But it appears Williams had an absolute shocker yesterday.

Neither did I but it sounds like Anderson was equally culpable but yet all the scorn is aimed Williams way. The DFP gave Williams a better rating than Anderson although there was much to be desired from them both.

While Williams has his limitations I think he's also defended well at times and some of the stick is way over the top.

steve@dcfd

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Re: Williams
« Reply #24 on October 12, 2022, 11:56:58 am by steve@dcfd »
Seaman is not a defender and never has been he is ok going forward that’s it. If Knoyle played there we would have been better. Let’s see what we do on Saturday but saying that conceding 4 is the first half or any time is rubbish.
I still say this GMC believes some of his players are better than what they are.

roversdude

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Re: Williams
« Reply #25 on October 12, 2022, 12:07:05 pm by roversdude »
Our defence was non existent in the first half due in part to the midfield being poor. In turn it allowed Barnsley to more or less walk the ball in on 5 occasions (last being the pelanty)
Anderson looked at best rusty, Williams was certainly no worse, Seaman as mentioned above is not a full back which again put pressure on the centre halfs

GazLaz

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Re: Williams
« Reply #26 on October 12, 2022, 12:24:57 pm by GazLaz »
Not releasing Anderson and using the money to sign a proven centre half in their prime was a big mistake.

Yep....... there are loads out there just waiting for us to call....

Lots operated at a very high level in L2 last season and were available on a free AND ended up moving to other L2 clubs on very achievable money for us.

bobbymax

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Re: Williams
« Reply #27 on October 12, 2022, 01:00:45 pm by bobbymax »
I think:
Long looked nice and steady.
Anderson looked like he hadn't played for a month.
Seaman and Williams were really bad first half.
Griffiths has turned into a right Dodoo
Molyneux and Hurst looked good
Miller needs to stay fit.

and Jones looked good too
Griffiths is nowhere near match-fit yet and it's ridiculous asking him to play up front on his own. He'd probably be a decent foil for Miller but I think we've actually only seen them together for about 20 minutes so far.
Williams is not very good, panics and can't pass a ball. Long's issue is pace. Anderson has never had much and I'm afraid he's got a lot to prove after his injuries. Seaman is not a defender nor a midfielder so I've no idea what we do with him. Barlow is Conference standard at best but Molyneux and Hurst are good when the ball is played to feet and I've an inkling that Taylor could yet have a big part to play this season.

Draytonian III

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Re: Williams
« Reply #28 on October 12, 2022, 01:01:17 pm by Draytonian III »
Personally I think the club should transfer list or send out on loan Seaman, Taylor, Griffiths  and Anderson at the first chance available, it would free up some wages for some fitter/better players. I can totally understand if the players turn the chance down, but that’s up to them

Filo

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Re: Williams
« Reply #29 on October 12, 2022, 03:51:18 pm by Filo »
Williams shits his pants everytime the ball comes to him

 

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