Herbie and Josh

[eastender]

Herbie Kane and Josh martin celebrating at Peterborough last night, where did it all go wrong for us.
I would love those 2 in our team. 

[tyke1962]

Herbie Kane and Josh martin celebrating at Peterborough last night, where did it all go wrong for us.
I would love those 2 in our team. 

Martin hasn't really cemented a place as yet , pretty poor when he has started games and at the moment he's getting used off the bench in the dying moments of games .

I wouldn't be surprised to see Martin go back to Norwich in January and his loan cut short in order to give us the opportunity to bring someone else in .

Herbie is starting to justify the money we paid Liverpool for him and he's a real class act this season in our midfield .

[Drover]

Herbie Kane and Josh martin celebrating at Peterborough last night, where did it all go wrong for us.
I would love those 2 in our team. 

And don't forget the great Devante Cole too!

[Upton Rover]

We needed a manager who players wanted to play for and who could attract decent players and who had football knowledge and contacts, we have not had that with the past 3

[Metalmicky]

We needed a manager who players wanted to play for and who could attract decent players and who had football knowledge and contacts, we have not had that with the past 3

TBF, Leyton Orient players appear to be playing for our ex manager....

[Rovers91]

We needed a manager who players wanted to play for and who could attract decent players and who had football knowledge and contacts, we have not had that with the past 3

That's down to the board.

[Goole Rover]

We needed a manager who players wanted to play for and who could attract decent players and who had football knowledge and contacts, we have not had that with the past 3

I can’t understand that Upton, I only played in the Doncaster Senior League but I didn’t give a damn who the manager was and that goes for my career I just did my best. It’s not the managers fault it’s the individual, get rid if they won’t give the effort.

[Upton Rover]

We needed a manager who players wanted to play for and who could attract decent players and who had football knowledge and contacts, we have not had that with the past 3

I can’t understand that Upton, I only played in the Doncaster Senior League but I didn’t give a damn who the manager was and that goes for my career I just did my best. It’s not the managers fault it’s the individual, get rid if they won’t give the effort.

No that’s not true at all, it proved time and time against that some player’s have been rubbish, then are a completely different person under a new manager with experience, Manuals are not enough to teach you is how to interact with your players, experience on the field is key to building this skillset. The greatest managers in the world are the greatest because they can coax the very best out of each and every one of their players and that comes from knowing which buttons to push.

You might have a player who excels when their confidence is boosted through praise and admiration. Alternatively, you may have one who is motivated more by being fired up to do better than they currently are. Carrot or stick? Choosing the right one can make all the difference.

Taking the time to get to know your players is fundamental, they are all individuals and one size does not fit all.

No two players are going to be the same mentally, just as no two people on the planet think exactly the same. Experience of dealing with a wide variety of individuals will give you the tools and knowledge you need to extract the very best out of the players under your charge, no matter what their personality type.

[Campsall rover]

We needed a manager who players wanted to play for and who could attract decent players and who had football knowledge and contacts, we have not had that with the past 3

I can’t understand that Upton, I only played in the Doncaster Senior League but I didn’t give a damn who the manager was and that goes for my career I just did my best. It’s not the managers fault it’s the individual, get rid if they won’t give the effort.

No that’s not true at all, it proved time and time against that some player’s have been rubbish, then are a completely different person under a new manager with experience, Manuals are not enough to teach you is how to interact with your players, experience on the field is key to building this skillset. The greatest managers in the world are the greatest because they can coax the very best out of each and every one of their players and that comes from knowing which buttons to push.

You might have a player who excels when their confidence is boosted through praise and admiration. Alternatively, you may have one who is motivated more by being fired up to do better than they currently are. Carrot or stick? Choosing the right one can make all the difference.

Taking the time to get to know your players is fundamental, they are all individuals and one size does not fit all.

No two players are going to be the same mentally, just as no two people on the planet think exactly the same. Experience of dealing with a wide variety of individuals will give you the tools and knowledge you need to extract the very best out of the players under your charge, no matter what their personality type.

100% correct Upton.
Man management is a bigger skill than coaching.

Wellens is certainly getting a tune out of his Leyton Orient players.
So that would suggest his man management skills are not flawed. Has he learnt from his time in his previous jobs and changed his management style?
Would he be getting success at Rovers with this seasons squad which is much improved from last season?

We are under achieving at present. I believe we should be a top 7 team minimum in this league.
Still can happen of course but DS needs to get them playing as they can do on a consistent basis.
Playing well in 1 out of every 3 games is not going to get this team back in league 1.

[knockers]

I don’t see anything to suggest we should be top seven.
We have absolutely no back bone, nobody tackles, none of them even look like they’re talking to each other on the pitch and one up top is a total joke.
If we hadn’t fluked those comeback wins at the start of the season we would be in a right old mess!

[tyke1962]

I've said it before on this board , what would really boil my pyss if I was a Rovers fan would be the size and financial clout of the club's who are above you .

I take the point nobody has a god given right to success but you are seriously underperforming as a club at this level .

[Barmby Rover]

We needed a manager who players wanted to play for and who could attract decent players and who had football knowledge and contacts, we have not had that with the past 3

Not another "sack the manager" starting. We have had very successful managers at the the club in recent times, with other clubs once they leave. Does that not tell even those with sawdust in their heads that the problem lies elsewhere?

[Campsall rover]

We need to give DS some time. That’s obvious. He has had only 7 league games so far.
What concerns me is how he set the team up against Walsall and then wonders why we were not creating chances.
Not only that but when it so obvious to all 5.500 Rovers fans in attendance, that it wasn’t working, he did nothing to change it until we were 2-0 down. He then still persisted with playing Tommy Rowe as a defender.
Now if that wasn’t tactical ineptitude I don’t know what is.
Very very concerning indeed.

He set the team up to attack at Grimsby. We played quick incisive football and looked a seriously good team at this level which very few teams if any would have coped with.
Yes i know Molyneux was not available for Walsall but to not start with Hurst who on his day is going to create something and is capable of scoring goals & not to play Rowe in an offensive position where he can cause damage was imo a huge mistake and extremely baffling.

How does he think Miller is going to beat the opposition all by himself.
I just can’t get my head round that at all.   Woltman for all his endeavour is not physically up to it yet, & he has not the nous or experience to unlock defences, which Hurst imo has.

If DS hasn’t learnt anything from this match then we are in big trouble.
If he can’t see it was himself that got it badly wrong then we are in big trouble.

I had big hopes that we had got a very good coach and man manager but I am left wondering now  after Friday’s game.

The season is at a stage now where we could end up 4th or 20th .
Where do we want to be. Seriously do we want the former? 
If we do then let’s see that desire to be there. This squad is capable especially with a couple of good additions in January.
We need to see some serious belief, desire and leadership from now onwards though or we could end up in that position of 20th or even worse. Heaven forbid. 

[Drover]

I've said it before on this board , what would really boil my pyss if I was a Rovers fan would be the size and financial clout of the club's who are above you .

I take the point nobody has a god given right to success but you are seriously underperforming as a club at this level .

It's alright though Tyke,the club is closing in on being self sustaining and then TB'S daughter can take over his control.

[silent majority]

I've said it before on this board , what would really boil my pyss if I was a Rovers fan would be the size and financial clout of the club's who are above you .

I take the point nobody has a god given right to success but you are seriously underperforming as a club at this level .

It's alright though Tyke,the club is closing in on being self sustaining and then the chairmans daughter can take over to keep control.

The Chairman doesn't have a daughter.

[Chris Black come back]

I've said it before on this board , what would really boil my pyss if I was a Rovers fan would be the size and financial clout of the club's who are above you .

I take the point nobody has a god given right to success but you are seriously underperforming as a club at this level .

It's alright though Tyke,the club is closing in on being self sustaining and then the chairmans daughter can take over to keep control.

The Chairman doesn't have a daughter.

Hahaha. Frame this!