Dead Atmosphere About The Club

[DearneValleyRover]

Blunt is a major part of the problem. He tells Bramall what the club needs financially, and he's been undershooting for ages. He's also obstructive. The youth team were going to play on the Keepmoat pitch for the final games of last season in the summer, all agreed, and then he tried charging them £2k for it, which the youth team quite obviously told him to shove it.

He's not going to be fired, he's Bramall's mate. He'll only leave when Bramall leaves, but given Bramall has already turned down a substantial bid because it wasn't enough, I'll believe it when I see it.

None of this is correct, not a single bit.

1) DB does not tell TB what the club needs financially, its not his role. The budget for the running of Club Doncaster and the various elements of that comes from Richard Poole, who is the Finance Director and its a collaboration with GB who then submits and commits that budget to the board. Undershooting for ages? That doesn't make any sense.

2) DB would not have been involved in any discussions about charging youth teams £2k to use the pitch, he just doesn't operate in the club on a day to day basis making decisions of that sort. Its just not his responsibility.

3) I've seen and heard these rumours about turning down bids for the club, not a single one has any merit, not one.

You might get information from the club, but why would the club tell you things that make them look bad? Blunt signs off on all transactions, whether he's in the building or not. I've been told that youth team information by a former youth team player.
The undershooting might not be deliberate, but it's happening. As referenced by multiple previous managers.

 

Blunt is a major part of the problem. He tells Bramall what the club needs financially, and he's been undershooting for ages. He's also obstructive. The youth team were going to play on the Keepmoat pitch for the final games of last season in the summer, all agreed, and then he tried charging them £2k for it, which the youth team quite obviously told him to shove it.

He's not going to be fired, he's Bramall's mate. He'll only leave when Bramall leaves, but given Bramall has already turned down a substantial bid because it wasn't enough, I'll believe it when I see it.

Can you elaborate on this substantial bid?

I've been told Eco-Power put an 8-figure bid in but Bramall wanted double.

So who did you hear it from, just so us uninformed can establish if what you heard was credible

It's been discussed in hospitality and corporate areas in match days when Eco-power have been there. There's other interested parties, some of whom I'd be concerned by and would rather have Bramall, but that is what it is.

Again, your reasoning is way off the mark and you change the subject when it suits you. DB does not sign off on all transactions, the day to day running of the club is performed by the CEO, that's what he's there for.

Not a single thing you've heard, and posted on here as gospel, has come from a credible source. You must be a salesman's dream.

You have been selling everybody a dream of a club that is perfect, run by people who do the best for the club.

They have stripped the club of all the quality by letting contracts run out and replacing them with lesser players.

Not backing managers when needed and most importantly losing 1000s of supporters.

They lack the passion to run a club and are only bothered  about the bank balance, defeat means less crowd's, less crowd's mean lower position.

It's time to show some and stop backing them at every opportunity before it is to late.

Yet again more nonsense.

I'm not selling you anything, just pointing out the difference between made-up rubbish and what actually happens in the real world.

And FYI, I don't back them at every opportunity. I give them a very rough ride and demand more from them at face to face meetings than anybody else, just because I don't do it on here doesn't mean it doesn't happen. As I've said many a time, you have to be in the room to be able to make a difference, attacking them on social media is the biggest waste of effort and time I can think of. Not only do they not read it, they probably don't even know it exists. And to suggest that a tweet here and there is having an effect is just laughable.

As soon as someone criticises this board you are straight on here defending them.

Do you reply believe I think they come on here, slowly people are starting to see what is happening at the club.

Bramall has deep pockets and short arms, rather we dropped down the divisions. What does he want from this club because  its not success?

Why don’t you approach the club and ask him? You don’t believe what SM and the VSC state so why not go that extra mile and find out for yourself?

[Bentley Bullet]

I've known Silent Majority since high school and in my experience, he suckers up to no one and calls a spade a spade.

Obviously, I've not been present at his meetings with the club but I know someone who has, and apparently he most definitely does not give them an easy ride.

[ravenrover]

There's nothing wrong with either the owner or the CEO at our club. The appalling demise of our football operation over the last 3 years is down to one man.

That man is our Chairman.

I think you are right SS to be honest.
Yes he runs a tight ship and that’s good but other than that as a Chairman he is a total non entity.
He is the total and complete opposite of what JR was.
We need a figure head running the club who has some personality and who is going to get the supporters enthused.
We hear absolutely nothing whatsoever from him. Zilch. ( Other than Meet the board meetings ) He bores the life out of me in those.
So it comes across that he isn’t interested in the fans. It then also comes across due to so much silence that he has very little ambition for the club to be successful on the field of play.
Now I am not saying he has no ambition for footballing success but because of his reluctance to be a positive voice as JR was that is the way he is perceived.

No, I'm not missing the point. If we were winning games consistently, nobody would give a toss about the Chairman and how he's perceived to operate.

But if we had a chairman who operated differently, maybe we would be in a healthier place as a club and in a position to win more games.

If, maybe? So this is not based on any factual evidence of what he does, doesn't do or knowledge of him as a person?

It's bizarre folk start looking for scapegoats when the scrutiny should be on the players, head coach and Head of Football.

Baz, Martin has said many times that the Chairman is in charge of the football operation. That operation involves the appointment of the head coach and HOF.

Our shocking demise on the football field has been going on for the last 3 years. Just who do you think should take responsibility for this?

The chairman oversees everything at the club but is not directly responsible for team performance is he? He does not interfere on team matters.

As Martin has said before, he's trusted by TB so whether you or I hold him accountable for performance over his entire tenure, not just the last 3 years, matters not.

Asking questions is the right thing to do, providing the right questions are asked.
Accusing someone, or attacking them on social media with no substance as some keep doing, isnt.

I disagree with you, Baz, that it matters not. People are now starting to vote with their feet. Despite being a ST holder, I won't be attending any more home games until this sh*tshow is sorted out, and many supporters are talking the same way.

The club will see how much it matters when crowds drop below 3000.

A season ticket holder not attending? How will that affect the club, you've already paid and will still be counted in attendances

[Danmckay456]

I think the problem is now and I’ll admit it myself , I hardly go much now after having religiously gone week in week out - we have one of the best grounds in the league and yet we don’t use it to our advantage and there is nothing to draw you into going every week - the football experience is terrible and the structure is all over the place.

We’ve recruited players yet again who simply aren’t either good enough or experienced enough and kept far too much deadwood from last season.

And we are underperforming so badly and yet ni one seems to care too many in house appointments and connections and lack of experience and no expectation or ambition had caught up with us.

The fans are right to be annoyed after what’s happened over the last few years and covid impacted every team not just drfc to use as an excuse.

The fact we are looking at contract extensions with our league position speaks volumes

[Donnywolf]

There's nothing wrong with either the owner or the CEO at our club. The appalling demise of our football operation over the last 3 years is down to one man.

That man is our Chairman.

I think you are right SS to be honest.
Yes he runs a tight ship and that’s good but other than that as a Chairman he is a total non entity.
He is the total and complete opposite of what JR was.
We need a figure head running the club who has some personality and who is going to get the supporters enthused.
We hear absolutely nothing whatsoever from him. Zilch. ( Other than Meet the board meetings ) He bores the life out of me in those.
So it comes across that he isn’t interested in the fans. It then also comes across due to so much silence that he has very little ambition for the club to be successful on the field of play.
Now I am not saying he has no ambition for footballing success but because of his reluctance to be a positive voice as JR was that is the way he is perceived.

No, I'm not missing the point. If we were winning games consistently, nobody would give a toss about the Chairman and how he's perceived to operate.

But if we had a chairman who operated differently, maybe we would be in a healthier place as a club and in a position to win more games.

If, maybe? So this is not based on any factual evidence of what he does, doesn't do or knowledge of him as a person?

It's bizarre folk start looking for scapegoats when the scrutiny should be on the players, head coach and Head of Football.

Baz, Martin has said many times that the Chairman is in charge of the football operation. That operation involves the appointment of the head coach and HOF.

Our shocking demise on the football field has been going on for the last 3 years. Just who do you think should take responsibility for this?

The chairman oversees everything at the club but is not directly responsible for team performance is he? He does not interfere on team matters.

As Martin has said before, he's trusted by TB so whether you or I hold him accountable for performance over his entire tenure, not just the last 3 years, matters not.

Asking questions is the right thing to do, providing the right questions are asked.
Accusing someone, or attacking them on social media with no substance as some keep doing, isnt.

I disagree with you, Baz, that it matters not. People are now starting to vote with their feet. Despite being a ST holder, I won't be attending any more home games until this sh*tshow is sorted out, and many supporters are talking the same way.

The club will see how much it matters when crowds drop below 3000.

A season ticket holder not attending? How will that affect the club, you've already paid and will still be counted in attendances

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Has there ever been a multiple quote " thing" that has taken a whole Page up by itself

[steve@dcfd]

Quote from ravenrover
A season ticket holder not attending? How will that affect the club, you've already paid and will still be counted in attendances

If all the club think about is money you will be right but if the real figure for supporters on the day keeps decreasing then the club, if they value the supporters, will take notice. If the real figure of home attendance does drop to 3000 or below then that should make the club concerned if they are bothered

[silent majority]

I've known Silent Majority since high school and in my experience, he suckers up to no one and calls a spade a spade.

Obviously, I've not been present at his meetings with the club but I know someone who has, and apparently he most definitely does not give them an easy ride.

Cheers BB, As I've often said on this forum, you can post what you like, tweet as often as you wish about 'calling the club out', none of it has an impact at all, I doubt DB even knows there is a forum called Viking Chat. Its the work that you do inside the room that counts, and you have to get in there first, and then once there use your common sense to get your points across.

[selby]

  SM, if your trying to say that this forum and social media had nothing to do with the then demise of the last three managers of Doncaster Rovers, and nobody at Doncaster Rovers takes any notice of it, I think you are very wrong.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Of course they're bothered but there ain't a magic wand that will make everything OK.

Nobody wants losing football, and that's the reason they've had to make difficult decisions. They've taken a different approach to restructure the football hierarchy. Unfortunately, these things take time to evolve.

Head of Football has only had one transfer window, had to make a difficult but correct decision to replace the head coach. We have seen signs of improvement but it seems it's taking longer for that improvement to stick.

I'm sure we all have our opinions about where we're lacking on the pitch but you can be sure JC26 won't like his efforts going to waste and will be looking for improvement too. We already know, they're onto recruitment for January however, there maybe more behind the scenes that need tweaking, who knows.

[scawsby steve]

Quote from ravenrover
A season ticket holder not attending? How will that affect the club, you've already paid and will still be counted in attendances

If all the club think about is money you will be right but if the real figure for supporters on the day keeps decreasing then the club, if they value the supporters, will take notice. If the real figure of home attendance does drop to 3000 or below then that should make the club concerned if they are bothered

I was just about to post the same thing, Steve. The club will be very aware that ST holders don't turn up for every game, especially when we're doing crap.

They'll soon be concerned when they see an almost empty stadium. There'll always be a hard core of around 2000 that will watch any old sh*te, but for many people, 3 years of constant decline is enough.

[no eyed deer]

Of course they're bothered but there ain't a magic wand that will make everything OK.

Nobody wants losing football, and that's the reason they've had to make difficult decisions. They've taken a different approach to restructure the football hierarchy. Unfortunately, these things take time to evolve.

Head of Football has only had one transfer window, had to make a difficult but correct decision to replace the head coach. We have seen signs of improvement but it seems it's taking longer for that improvement to stick.

I'm sure we all have our opinions about where we're lacking on the pitch but you can be sure JC26 won't like his efforts going to waste and will be looking for improvement too. We already know, they're onto recruitment for January however, there maybe more behind the scenes that need tweaking, who knows.

Of course they're bothered but there ain't a magic wand that will make everything OK.

Nobody wants losing football, and that's the reason they've had to make difficult decisions. They've taken a different approach to restructure the football hierarchy. Unfortunately, these things take time to evolve.

Head of Football has only had one transfer window, had to make a difficult but correct decision to replace the head coach. We have seen signs of improvement but it seems it's taking longer for that improvement to stick.

I'm sure we all have our opinions about where we're lacking on the pitch but you can be sure JC26 won't like his efforts going to waste and will be looking for improvement too. We already know, they're onto recruitment for January however, there maybe more behind the scenes that need tweaking, who knows.

Take time ?

They have been here over ten years

[Campsall rover]

I had always assumed that businesses were very keen to know what their customers think and make considerable attempts to get feedback.

It makes you wonder whether those who have established consultation channels advise DRFC Management that they should listen to them primarily and not take too much notice of voices on this Forum.

If the Chairman is unaware of the existence of Viking Chat, surely it is the duty of those who represent supporters to tell him of its existence at least! I think I would want to see for myself sometimes if only to test the accuracy of the positions presented by what might be called our representatives.

Not this club... we don't exist!

I am not happy with where we are at the present time but seriously your user name really is so appropriate as you really do have no eye dear whatsoever.

[no eyed deer]

I had always assumed that businesses were very keen to know what their customers think and make considerable attempts to get feedback.

It makes you wonder whether those who have established consultation channels advise DRFC Management that they should listen to them primarily and not take too much notice of voices on this Forum.

If the Chairman is unaware of the existence of Viking Chat, surely it is the duty of those who represent supporters to tell him of its existence at least! I think I would want to see for myself sometimes if only to test the accuracy of the positions presented by what might be called our representatives.

Not this club... we don't exist!

I am not happy with where we are at the present time but seriously your user name really is so appropriate as you really do have no eye dear whatsoever.

OK.. 

Some people saw this coming long before you. It took you till last year, and you say I have No eye Deer. Lol

[Campsall rover]

I was referring to your post reference that “we don’t exist”
I assume you mean the supporters?

Now you cannot accuse the club of not involving fans.
There are lots of opportunities to have your say at this football club.

[pib]

  SM, if your trying to say that this forum and social media had nothing to do with the then demise of the last three managers of Doncaster Rovers, and nobody at Doncaster Rovers takes any notice of it, I think you are very wrong.

I thought it was said a while ago on here that the owners/board were more than aware of the discourse on forums and social media, and at one point that the "negativity" was making them consider walking away? I might've dreamt it like.

[no eyed deer]

I was referring to your post reference that “we don’t exist”
I assume you mean the supporters?

Now you cannot accuse the club of not involving fans.
There are lots of opportunities to have your say at this football club.

Yes, they involve the fans and let them choose what is served at the kiosks.

The day to day running of the club is a closed shop and until this changes the downfall will not stop. Lose and less revenue, less revenue, lesser quality of player Etc..

Far to many supporters that when week in week out just don't go anymore, me included. and to get them back will take time and results.

[no eyed deer]

I was referring to your post reference that “we don’t exist”
I assume you mean the supporters?

Now you cannot accuse the club of not involving fans.
There are lots of opportunities to have your say at this football club.

Yes, they involve the fans and let them choose what is served at the kiosks.

The day to day running of the club is a closed shop and until this changes the downfall will not stop. Lose and less revenue, less revenue, lesser quality of player Etc..

Far to many supporters that when week in week out just don't go anymore, me included. and to get them back will take time and results.

Irony's not your strong point is it?

Another who sees nothing wrong at the club.

In this world there are leaders and followers and your definitely a follower.

[vaya]

I was referring to your post reference that “we don’t exist”
I assume you mean the supporters?

Now you cannot accuse the club of not involving fans.
There are lots of opportunities to have your say at this football club.

Yes, they involve the fans and let them choose what is served at the kiosks.

The day to day running of the club is a closed shop and until this changes the downfall will not stop. Lose and less revenue, less revenue, lesser quality of player Etc..

Far to many supporters that when week in week out just don't go anymore, me included. and to get them back will take time and results.

Irony's not your strong point is it?

Another who sees nothing wrong at the club.

In this world there are leaders and followers and your definitely a follower.

You've previously criticised the board for not putting any/enough money into the club.

You've just said you don't go to games and don't put money into the club that way.

By your own standards, you're just as bad as them. Nothing to do with me.

[silent majority]

I was referring to your post reference that “we don’t exist”
I assume you mean the supporters?

Now you cannot accuse the club of not involving fans.
There are lots of opportunities to have your say at this football club.

Yes, they involve the fans and let them choose what is served at the kiosks.

The day to day running of the club is a closed shop and until this changes the downfall will not stop. Lose and less revenue, less revenue, lesser quality of player Etc..

Far to many supporters that when week in week out just don't go anymore, me included. and to get them back will take time and results.

Irony's not your strong point is it?

Another who sees nothing wrong at the club.

In this world there are leaders and followers and your definitely a follower.

And your a leader??

[scawsby steve]

I was referring to your post reference that “we don’t exist”
I assume you mean the supporters?

Now you cannot accuse the club of not involving fans.
There are lots of opportunities to have your say at this football club.

Yes, they involve the fans and let them choose what is served at the kiosks.

The day to day running of the club is a closed shop and until this changes the downfall will not stop. Lose and less revenue, less revenue, lesser quality of player Etc..

Far to many supporters that when week in week out just don't go anymore, me included. and to get them back will take time and results.

Irony's not your strong point is it?

Another who sees nothing wrong at the club.

In this world there are leaders and followers and your definitely a follower.

And your a leader??

Gentlemen, gentlemen, never mind the bickering, just remember it's not "your", it's "you're".

Signed, A. Pedant.

[no eyed deer]

I was referring to your post reference that “we don’t exist”
I assume you mean the supporters?

Now you cannot accuse the club of not involving fans.
There are lots of opportunities to have your say at this football club.

Yes, they involve the fans and let them choose what is served at the kiosks.

The day to day running of the club is a closed shop and until this changes the downfall will not stop. Lose and less revenue, less revenue, lesser quality of player Etc..

Far to many supporters that when week in week out just don't go anymore, me included. and to get them back will take time and results.

Irony's not your strong point is it?

Another who sees nothing wrong at the club.

In this world there are leaders and followers and your definitely a follower.

And your a leader??

Gentlemen, gentlemen, never mind the bickering, just remember it's not "your", it's "you're".

Signed, A. Pedant.

You must have gone to Percy Jacksons ?

Me you a plan old Comp

[silent majority]

I was referring to your post reference that “we don’t exist”
I assume you mean the supporters?

Now you cannot accuse the club of not involving fans.
There are lots of opportunities to have your say at this football club.

Yes, they involve the fans and let them choose what is served at the kiosks.

The day to day running of the club is a closed shop and until this changes the downfall will not stop. Lose and less revenue, less revenue, lesser quality of player Etc..

Far to many supporters that when week in week out just don't go anymore, me included. and to get them back will take time and results.

Irony's not your strong point is it?

Another who sees nothing wrong at the club.

In this world there are leaders and followers and your definitely a follower.

And your a leader??

Gentlemen, gentlemen, never mind the bickering, just remember it's not "your", it's "you're".

Signed, A. Pedant.

Great Steve,  thanks for that! It's not something I get wrong usually.

[scawsby steve]

I was referring to your post reference that “we don’t exist”
I assume you mean the supporters?

Now you cannot accuse the club of not involving fans.
There are lots of opportunities to have your say at this football club.

Yes, they involve the fans and let them choose what is served at the kiosks.

The day to day running of the club is a closed shop and until this changes the downfall will not stop. Lose and less revenue, less revenue, lesser quality of player Etc..

Far to many supporters that when week in week out just don't go anymore, me included. and to get them back will take time and results.

Irony's not your strong point is it?

Another who sees nothing wrong at the club.

In this world there are leaders and followers and your definitely a follower.

And your a leader??

Gentlemen, gentlemen, never mind the bickering, just remember it's not "your", it's "you're".

Signed, A. Pedant.

You must have gone to Percy Jacksons ?

Me you a plan old Comp

Yes, I was a Percy piglet, along with one or two others from this forum.

[no eyed deer]

I was referring to your post reference that “we don’t exist”
I assume you mean the supporters?

Now you cannot accuse the club of not involving fans.
There are lots of opportunities to have your say at this football club.

Yes, they involve the fans and let them choose what is served at the kiosks.

The day to day running of the club is a closed shop and until this changes the downfall will not stop. Lose and less revenue, less revenue, lesser quality of player Etc..

Far to many supporters that when week in week out just don't go anymore, me included. and to get them back will take time and results.

Irony's not your strong point is it?

Another who sees nothing wrong at the club.

In this world there are leaders and followers and your definitely a follower.

And your a leader??

Gentlemen, gentlemen, never mind the bickering, just remember it's not "your", it's "you're".

Signed, A. Pedant.

You must have gone to Percy Jacksons ?

Me you a plan old Comp

Yes, I was a Percy piglet, along with one or two others from this forum.

Yeah my dad was there too.

[drfchound]

I was referring to your post reference that “we don’t exist”
I assume you mean the supporters?

Now you cannot accuse the club of not involving fans.
There are lots of opportunities to have your say at this football club.

Yes, they involve the fans and let them choose what is served at the kiosks.

The day to day running of the club is a closed shop and until this changes the downfall will not stop. Lose and less revenue, less revenue, lesser quality of player Etc..

Far to many supporters that when week in week out just don't go anymore, me included. and to get them back will take time and results.

Irony's not your strong point is it?

Another who sees nothing wrong at the club.

In this world there are leaders and followers and your definitely a follower.

And your a leader??

Gentlemen, gentlemen, never mind the bickering, just remember it's not "your", it's "you're".

Signed, A. Pedant.

You must have gone to Percy Jacksons ?

Me you a plan old Comp

Yes, I was a Percy piglet, along with one or two others from this forum.

Thorne Grammar School for me Steve.

[no eyed deer]

I was referring to your post reference that “we don’t exist”
I assume you mean the supporters?

Now you cannot accuse the club of not involving fans.
There are lots of opportunities to have your say at this football club.

Yes, they involve the fans and let them choose what is served at the kiosks.

The day to day running of the club is a closed shop and until this changes the downfall will not stop. Lose and less revenue, less revenue, lesser quality of player Etc..

Far to many supporters that when week in week out just don't go anymore, me included. and to get them back will take time and results.

Irony's not your strong point is it?

Another who sees nothing wrong at the club.

In this world there are leaders and followers and your definitely a follower.

And your a leader??

Gentlemen, gentlemen, never mind the bickering, just remember it's not "your", it's "you're".

Signed, A. Pedant.

You must have gone to Percy Jacksons ?

Me you a plan old Comp

Yes, I was a Percy piglet, along with one or two others from this forum.

Yeah my dad was there too.

Is it checky to ask what year you was born?

[scawsby steve]

I was referring to your post reference that “we don’t exist”
I assume you mean the supporters?

Now you cannot accuse the club of not involving fans.
There are lots of opportunities to have your say at this football club.

Yes, they involve the fans and let them choose what is served at the kiosks.

The day to day running of the club is a closed shop and until this changes the downfall will not stop. Lose and less revenue, less revenue, lesser quality of player Etc..

Far to many supporters that when week in week out just don't go anymore, me included. and to get them back will take time and results.

Irony's not your strong point is it?

Another who sees nothing wrong at the club.

In this world there are leaders and followers and your definitely a follower.

And your a leader??

Gentlemen, gentlemen, never mind the bickering, just remember it's not "your", it's "you're".

Signed, A. Pedant.

You must have gone to Percy Jacksons ?

Me you a plan old Comp

Yes, I was a Percy piglet, along with one or two others from this forum.

Yeah my dad was there too.

Is it checky to ask what year you was born?

No, it's not cheeky, but it would give BB and Wolfie the ammo to slaughter me with.

[Bentley Bullet]

I was referring to your post reference that “we don’t exist”
I assume you mean the supporters?

Now you cannot accuse the club of not involving fans.
There are lots of opportunities to have your say at this football club.

Yes, they involve the fans and let them choose what is served at the kiosks.

The day to day running of the club is a closed shop and until this changes the downfall will not stop. Lose and less revenue, less revenue, lesser quality of player Etc..

Far to many supporters that when week in week out just don't go anymore, me included. and to get them back will take time and results.

Irony's not your strong point is it?

Another who sees nothing wrong at the club.

In this world there are leaders and followers and your definitely a follower.

And your a leader??

Gentlemen, gentlemen, never mind the bickering, just remember it's not "your", it's "you're".

Signed, A. Pedant.

You must have gone to Percy Jacksons ?

Me you a plan old Comp

Yes, I was a Percy piglet, along with one or two others from this forum.

Yeah my dad was there too.

Is it checky to ask what year you was born?

No, it's not cheeky, but it would give BB and Wolfie the ammo to slaughter me with.

The General Register Office holds records of births, but data protection would probably prevent access to information.

Besides, in SS's case, I'm not sure if records go back that far.

[Lincoln Rover]

Ladies & Gents.
Just to add a little bit of balance to this debate.
I’ve been in dozens of meetings with SM when he’s challenged the club on many fronts. His knowledge base & ability to hold the club to account is up there with the best.
We may not agree 100 % on every item raised in all of our discussions/meetings we attend, ( that’s life) but for people with little knowledge of what is actually said in meetings, to challenge his honesty &/or his ability to ask awkward questions is foolish. There’s minutes of each of our Shadow Board meetings on the clubs site. Please read them.

[no eyed deer]

I was referring to your post reference that “we don’t exist”
I assume you mean the supporters?

Now you cannot accuse the club of not involving fans.
There are lots of opportunities to have your say at this football club.

Yes, they involve the fans and let them choose what is served at the kiosks.

The day to day running of the club is a closed shop and until this changes the downfall will not stop. Lose and less revenue, less revenue, lesser quality of player Etc..

Far to many supporters that when week in week out just don't go anymore, me included. and to get them back will take time and results.

Irony's not your strong point is it?

Another who sees nothing wrong at the club.

In this world there are leaders and followers and your definitely a follower.

And your a leader??

Gentlemen, gentlemen, never mind the bickering, just remember it's not "your", it's "you're".

Signed, A. Pedant.

You must have gone to Percy Jacksons ?

Me you a plan old Comp

Yes, I was a Percy piglet, along with one or two others from this forum.

Yeah my dad was there too.

Is it checky to ask what year you was born?

No, it's not cheeky, but it would give BB and Wolfie the ammo to slaughter me with.

Just wondered if you went with my dad ?


Let's just say he was a post war baby