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selby

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Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« on December 12, 2022, 12:00:01 pm by selby »
  I think the first time we have played them in a league fixture and from a place that would certainly suit the nickname the Posh more than it does Peterborough.
  A club to be admired over the last decade for how far they have risen as a club and will give us a stiff test to see if we can build on the win at Newport, themselves coming here looking for their third win on the bounce their last game being a 4-1 win at Rochdale, so will be hoping to continue the winning run and move further away from the relegation places.
  Armstrong is their main threat having scored six league goals this season and is in form getting a brace at Rochdale.
  Led by local to us Simon Weaver I would imagine they know all about our frailties when put under pressure and in your faces sides and I expect a much harder game than at Newport in that respect, being known as a team that works hard if nothing else.
  We ourselves will be looking to build on our win at Newport where we showed some form at last, and put a game together, and at times played some good football, which we have done a couple of times before this season but have really struggled for any consistency which from now on we must do if we are to recover anything from a season that has proved testing and disappointing to us the supporters who want to see more than has been on offer this season up to press.
  So the odd up now and again has to stop, and with hopefully some players fit again we could have a stronger squad on paper available, but that could muddy the waters, do we change a winning side? have even the name players we have shown any form to just come back into the Team? will Anderson and Olowu be fit for the game? both would be shoe ins under normal circumstances, and will we try to find a system where Miller gets more help up front? can the players actually show a decent run of personal form now they should have gained confidence?
  Lot's to discuss, for now something to look forward to after a win, please have your say.



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Barmby Rover

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #1 on December 12, 2022, 12:08:50 pm by Barmby Rover »
The owner lives in Harrogate, just saying like! ;) :)

Campsall rover

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #2 on December 12, 2022, 02:21:06 pm by Campsall rover »
The owner lives in Harrogate, just saying like! ;) :)
He is from Doncaster originally as is Simon his son.
Strata Homes is his company.

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #3 on December 12, 2022, 05:19:32 pm by Spud »
Who knows what to expect from us, week in week out? From what feels like another awful season so far, the league table says we're two points off what most would find an acceptable finish, ok three given the goal difference. There must be a few teams in the same boat as us thinking "if we could just string a few results together".

Campsall rover

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #4 on December 12, 2022, 05:37:12 pm by Campsall rover »
It’s all to play for. 25 games 75 points.

Harrogate will work their socks off but man for man we have better players than they do.
We need to impose ourselves on them from the off. If we don’t work as hard as them we will be in trouble.
Play with the intensity that we did at Grimsby and we will be much too good for them.

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #5 on December 12, 2022, 06:20:53 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Yes, we're desperate to see a good home performance to put to bed the last home shocker.

Do we take the Newport line up as DS preferred formation. Certainly sounds he wants Rowe to play that role as part of the back 3.

Does he continue with Knoyle on the other side of Williams or does he look to reintroduce Olowu and push Knoyle further forward as the wing back?

Once again, we just want to see the high tempo and support for Miller.

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #6 on December 12, 2022, 07:12:22 pm by Arsenal Of The North »
Yes, we're desperate to see a good home performance to put to bed the last home shocker.

Do we take the Newport line up as DS preferred formation. Certainly sounds he wants Rowe to play that role as part of the back 3.

Does he continue with Knoyle on the other side of Williams or does he look to reintroduce Olowu and push Knoyle further forward as the wing back?

Once again, we just want to see the high tempo and support for Miller.

In a perfect world I would like Anderson and olowu to come in the side to support Williams, then knoyle and Rowe on the wings.

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #7 on December 12, 2022, 08:30:42 pm by Upton Rover »
I predict that we will win, and it will be our biggest score this season

Chris Black come back

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #8 on December 12, 2022, 08:44:29 pm by Chris Black come back »
Their away record is bad. Played 10 away league games this season and lost 7, drawn 1 and won 2.  The only sides they have beaten away are equally dreadful in Gillingham and Rochdale.


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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #9 on December 12, 2022, 10:01:23 pm by danumdon »
Their away record is bad. Played 10 away league games this season and lost 7, drawn 1 and won 2.  The only sides they have beaten away are equally dreadful in Gillingham and Rochdale.



God, i was hoping nobody would bring up this stat. :)

danumdon

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #10 on December 12, 2022, 10:10:04 pm by danumdon »
Yes, we're desperate to see a good home performance to put to bed the last home shocker.

Do we take the Newport line up as DS preferred formation. Certainly sounds he wants Rowe to play that role as part of the back 3.

Does he continue with Knoyle on the other side of Williams or does he look to reintroduce Olowu and push Knoyle further forward as the wing back?

Once again, we just want to see the high tempo and support for Miller.

Fully agree, i really want to see Knoyle and Rowe engaged in offensive positions as that would surely suit us better,

Olowu and Anderson have to by their very definition strengthen our back line as Knoyle as Rowe would do likewise further forward pushing on. We need these outlets to enable our team to push further up the field and support Miller, Seaman and Maxwell did ok on Sat but as attacking players they don't give us the same impetus that the other two can do.
I'd be prepared to loose a little ball control in the back-line to get the team pushing up the field, its where we can benefit the best when you weigh both options up.

But then i don't pick the team so it will be interesting to see what DS thinks.

les@donr

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #11 on December 13, 2022, 01:28:01 am by les@donr »
Yorkshire derbies are hard to predict. Harrogate won't give us an inch, I'm predicting a hard fought draw.

selby

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #12 on December 13, 2022, 11:09:23 am by selby »
  We need a result more than a performance, both would be handy but the result is the more important if only to get a better feeling around the club.
  There is no denying we are at our lowest ebb for a long time and the easiest way to boost confidence and look like we have turned a corner and can look forward is better more consistent results, which normally combine with better performances, bigger attendances and more income for the club.
  Sounds easy, but we are proving not to be that good at it at the moment.

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #13 on December 13, 2022, 11:25:56 am by Colin C No.3 »
In an ‘ideal world’ I’d play a 4-4-2 with Knoyle, Olowu, Anderson & Mitchell back four, Molyneaux, Rowe, Hurst & Close in midfield with Woltman supporting Miller up front.

I wouldn’t play Clayton in the midfield because he’s not mobile enough. His dead ball kicks are shocking. He drops too deep & ends up between a 5th defender or defensive midfielder neither of which offers anything to the team but slows the tempo of the game down which is harder to ‘pick up’ again.

Miller needs balls to run onto which that midfield are all capable of producing. Biggins tends to lose the ball far too much in dangerous areas despite having a goal & a pass in him.

Just my opinion.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2022, 11:34:33 am by Colin C No.3 »

drfc1951

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #14 on December 13, 2022, 11:43:02 am by drfc1951 »
Would you play Maxwell in goal then

danumdon

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #15 on December 13, 2022, 11:43:29 am by danumdon »
Col, i know some think Maxwell needs to up his game a little but to replace him with Mitchell is rather extreme. :)

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #16 on December 13, 2022, 11:57:12 am by Lytham Rover »
  I think the first time we have played them in a league fixture and from a place that would certainly suit the nickname the Posh more than it does Peterborough.
  A club to be admired over the last decade for how far they have risen as a club and will give us a stiff test to see if we can build on the win at Newport, themselves coming here looking for their third win on the bounce their last game being a 4-1 win at Rochdale, so will be hoping to continue the winning run and move further away from the relegation places.
  Armstrong is their main threat having scored six league goals this season and is in form getting a brace at Rochdale.
  Led by local to us Simon Weaver I would imagine they know all about our frailties when put under pressure and in your faces sides and I expect a much harder game than at Newport in that respect, being known as a team that works hard if nothing else.
  We ourselves will be looking to build on our win at Newport where we showed some form at last, and put a game together, and at times played some good football, which we have done a couple of times before this season but have really struggled for any consistency which from now on we must do if we are to recover anything from a season that has proved testing and disappointing to us the supporters who want to see more than has been on offer this season up to press.
  So the odd up now and again has to stop, and with hopefully some players fit again we could have a stronger squad on paper available, but that could muddy the waters, do we change a winning side? have even the name players we have shown any form to just come back into the Team? will Anderson and Olowu be fit for the game? both would be shoe ins under normal circumstances, and will we try to find a system where Miller gets more help up front? can the players actually show a decent run of personal form now they should have gained confidence?
  Lot's to discuss, for now something to look forward to after a win, please have your say.

POSH

stands for port out starboard home

As I understand it
Why that applies to an inland city is beyond me

ncRover

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #17 on December 13, 2022, 12:02:18 pm by ncRover »
Lows of -1C and high of 3 forecast for Saturday. Do we reckon a postponement is a possibility? I’m wanting to bring some friends along.

Colin C No.3

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #18 on December 13, 2022, 01:30:12 pm by Colin C No.3 »
Col, i know some think Maxwell needs to up his game a little but to replace him with Mitchell is rather extreme. :)
Fair do’s danum, getting my Maxwells mixed up with my Mitchell’s!

Barmby Rover

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #19 on December 13, 2022, 01:52:54 pm by Barmby Rover »
  I think the first time we have played them in a league fixture and from a place that would certainly suit the nickname the Posh more than it does Peterborough.
  A club to be admired over the last decade for how far they have risen as a club and will give us a stiff test to see if we can build on the win at Newport, themselves coming here looking for their third win on the bounce their last game being a 4-1 win at Rochdale, so will be hoping to continue the winning run and move further away from the relegation places.
  Armstrong is their main threat having scored six league goals this season and is in form getting a brace at Rochdale.
  Led by local to us Simon Weaver I would imagine they know all about our frailties when put under pressure and in your faces sides and I expect a much harder game than at Newport in that respect, being known as a team that works hard if nothing else.
  We ourselves will be looking to build on our win at Newport where we showed some form at last, and put a game together, and at times played some good football, which we have done a couple of times before this season but have really struggled for any consistency which from now on we must do if we are to recover anything from a season that has proved testing and disappointing to us the supporters who want to see more than has been on offer this season up to press.
  So the odd up now and again has to stop, and with hopefully some players fit again we could have a stronger squad on paper available, but that could muddy the waters, do we change a winning side? have even the name players we have shown any form to just come back into the Team? will Anderson and Olowu be fit for the game? both would be shoe ins under normal circumstances, and will we try to find a system where Miller gets more help up front? can the players actually show a decent run of personal form now they should have gained confidence?
  Lot's to discuss, for now something to look forward to after a win, please have your say.

POSH

stands for port out starboard home

As I understand it
Why that applies to an inland city is beyond me

Wrong... In the nineteenth century, a ‘posh’ was slang for money, and specifically a halfpenny or another coin of small value, as the Oxford English Dictionary (OED) records. This sense of ‘posh’ is attested from 1830. Curiously, the word has its origins in a Romani term for a coin: the Welsh Romani phrase påš xā̊ra referred to the halfpenny coin. And even more curiously, the English Romani term for the same thing, only in the plural (i.e. halfpennies), was posh-hórri.

Then, towards the end of the nineteenth century, an alternate meaning of ‘posh’ arose, again from that constant stream of living language, slang. Once again, this ‘posh’ was a noun rather than the more familiar adjective we use today, although, interestingly, this ‘posh’ referred to a dandy: a well-dressed, and often well-off, man about town.

Urban myth port out etc.

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #20 on December 13, 2022, 02:02:21 pm by Geoff Blakesley »
Peterborough United are known throughout the world of football as 'The Posh' and the nickname was almost certainly inherited from earlier, unconnected professional clubs in their home city.

In 1921 the manager of Fletton United was quoted as saying he was looking for Posh players to form a Posh team, by Posh he meant good, and it stuck from that. Before that Fletton United were known as the Brickies or Claydobbers due to the brickworks in the area.

Fletton added Peterborough to their name in 1923, becoming Peterborough & Fletton United when they joined the Southern League. In 1932 the club went bankrupt, and when the current club was formed two years later and made their Midland League debut against Gainsborough Trinity on 1st September 1934, the team was greeted with cries of 'Up The Posh' from the crowd.

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #21 on December 13, 2022, 02:44:32 pm by selby »
  I was thinking the more modern Posh part of Yorkshire with all the millionaires rather than the S**T hole of Peterborough myself.

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #22 on December 13, 2022, 04:28:38 pm by scawsby steve »
  I was thinking the more modern Posh part of Yorkshire with all the millionaires rather than the S**T hole of Peterborough myself.

I thought when mentioning "Posh", Brian, you might have been referring to us at Scawsby, seeing as we still impose a 50p surcharge to keep all the riff-raff out.

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #23 on December 13, 2022, 06:23:20 pm by Dutch Uncle »

Wrong... In the nineteenth century, a ‘posh’ was slang for money, and specifically a halfpenny or another coin of small value, as the Oxford English Dictionary (OED) records. This sense of ‘posh’ is attested from 1830. Curiously, the word has its origins in a Romani term for a coin: the Welsh Romani phrase påš xā̊ra referred to the halfpenny coin. And even more curiously, the English Romani term for the same thing, only in the plural (i.e. halfpennies), was posh-hórri.

Then, towards the end of the nineteenth century, an alternate meaning of ‘posh’ arose, again from that constant stream of living language, slang. Once again, this ‘posh’ was a noun rather than the more familiar adjective we use today, although, interestingly, this ‘posh’ referred to a dandy: a well-dressed, and often well-off, man about town.

Urban myth port out etc.

First time I have seen Welsh and posh in the same sentence  :lol: :lol:

Even the Germans have place called 'Welschbillig' which translates as 'damn cheap'

selby

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #24 on December 14, 2022, 10:49:09 am by selby »
  Steve, I love Scawsby and the people from there, it has always been a pleasure to come over from Askern, do a bit of missionary work and try and bring a little joy into your lives despite all your hardships being so near to Bentley and Scawthorpe.


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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #26 on December 14, 2022, 06:23:12 pm by roversdude »
Was hoping Molyneux would be back but wouldn’t risk him now

Sammy Chung was King

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Re: Let's talk about the Harrogate Town game
« Reply #27 on December 15, 2022, 08:02:00 pm by Sammy Chung was King »
No disrespect but if our side has any ambitions towards promotion, we have to start winning games like this. The season will show if the side is good enough. A level of consistency of performances and results are needed.

No excuses, whether X is injured or whatever, no is the time to start laying a marker down and becoming the side nobody wants to meet. We need a touch of devilment in the side at times, we are too nice.

 

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