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Chris Black come back

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Re: Loans in and out
« Reply #60 on January 06, 2023, 12:44:10 pm by Chris Black come back »
He’s a good keeper for us. I think most of the complaints about him arise from the terrible state of the defensive unit, and that we signed him for free from Hartlepool United.



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Colemans Left Hook

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Re: Loans in and out
« Reply #61 on January 06, 2023, 03:13:59 pm by Colemans Left Hook »
He’s a good keeper for us. I think most of the complaints about him arise from the terrible state of the defensive unit, and that we signed him for free from Hartlepool United.

lets make it sound worse "on paper" Hartlepool United Reserves please

Campsall rover

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Re: Loans in and out
« Reply #62 on January 06, 2023, 03:48:41 pm by Campsall rover »
He was only 2nd keeper at Hartlepool because they had a very good keeper.
Still have a very good keeper ( same one )

andyst79

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Re: Loans in and out
« Reply #63 on January 06, 2023, 04:30:57 pm by andyst79 »
Fair enough we've had Dieng & Johnstone to name a couple but these were on loan. We never had a cat in hells chance of signing them. Good to have our own keeper and a bit of stability

Campsall rover

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« Reply #64 on January 06, 2023, 05:08:38 pm by Campsall rover »
Fair enough we've had Dieng & Johnstone to name a couple but these were on loan. We never had a cat in hells chance of signing them. Good to have our own keeper and a bit of stability
He is the best keeper we have had that’s OURS and not a loan keeper since Neil Sullivan.

Better than Woods, Stuckmann, Lawlor, Marosi. Have I missed anyone?  We have had so many loan keepers over the last 8/9 years.
Yes it’s good to have one that’s our own again and even better having one who is as competent as Mitchell.

ravenrover

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Re: Loans in and out
« Reply #65 on January 06, 2023, 05:43:40 pm by ravenrover »
Better than Marosi, debatable IMHO

Campsall rover

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Re: Loans in and out
« Reply #66 on January 06, 2023, 05:57:14 pm by Campsall rover »
Better than Marosi, debatable IMHO
IMO much better.  Shot stopping not much in it but on crosses Mitchell much more decisive and commanding.

It’s all opinions of course, but as an ex Keeper myself ( I don’t claim to have been a particularly good one ) but I like to think I know a bit about goalkeeping.

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Re: Loans in and out
« Reply #67 on January 06, 2023, 06:15:45 pm by andyst79 »
Marosi wasn't rated when he 1st came here , but he worked on his game and steadily improved. He wasn't the tallest but was fast and agile

Cramby10

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« Reply #68 on January 06, 2023, 07:17:33 pm by Cramby10 »
Couldn’t catch cold though. He was rubbish. A keeper that can command his box sets them apart from the rest. We’ve not had many of those for quite some time. But even to my surprise Mitchell can do this. He’s just hindered by the shite in front of him and playing to instruction.

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« Reply #69 on January 06, 2023, 07:24:54 pm by roversdude »
Marosi wasn't rated when he 1st came here , but he worked on his game and steadily improved. He wasn't the tallest but was fast and agile

Terrible with crosses cost us the play off at Charlton

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Re: Loans in and out
« Reply #70 on January 06, 2023, 07:34:25 pm by Chris Black come back »
The best attribute about Mitchell is that he is good on the high ball. We've been such a soft touch on that in recent years. Given how poor our central defence has been we need to thank Mitchell for bailing us out plenty of times in these situations. Dieng was very good on high ball, and Sullivan. We've had so many shockers though.

ravenrover

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Re: Loans in and out
« Reply #71 on January 06, 2023, 08:56:15 pm by ravenrover »
Marosi wasn't rated when he 1st came here , but he worked on his game and steadily improved. He wasn't the tallest but was fast and agile

Terrible with crosses cost us the play off at Charlton
Really?

roversdude

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« Reply #72 on January 06, 2023, 09:57:44 pm by roversdude »
In my opinion yes

drfchound

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« Reply #73 on January 06, 2023, 10:01:43 pm by drfchound »
The second Charlton goal came about by Marosi slipping, it could have happened to anyone.
It is a bit harsh to say he cost us winning that game.
He was a very good keeper for us but I do think Mitchell is better at coming for crosses.

sedwardsdrfc

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« Reply #74 on January 06, 2023, 10:39:22 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Seems the main criticism of Mitchell is distribution but personally I think he’s not that bad at anyway. Every L2 & L1 keeper is going to put it out of play a fair bit.

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Re: Loans in and out
« Reply #75 on January 07, 2023, 02:19:21 am by DonnyBazR0ver »
The second Charlton goal came about by Marosi slipping, it could have happened to anyone.
It is a bit harsh to say he cost us winning that game.
He was a very good keeper for us but I do think Mitchell is better at coming for crosses.

We didn’t realise how pivotal that slip could be. Was it just as pivotal as Tristam Whitmans equaliser in the Conferance Play off semi final v Chester or Andy Warringtons penalty save in the return leg?

Fine lines. Some we win, some we lose.

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« Reply #76 on January 07, 2023, 09:13:34 am by drfchound »
The second Charlton goal came about by Marosi slipping, it could have happened to anyone.
It is a bit harsh to say he cost us winning that game.
He was a very good keeper for us but I do think Mitchell is better at coming for crosses.

We didn’t realise how pivotal that slip could be. Was it just as pivotal as Tristam Whitmans equaliser in the Conferance Play off semi final v Chester or Andy Warringtons penalty save in the return leg?

Fine lines. Some we win, some we lose.

Agreed, we have slipped a long way down the hill since then.

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« Reply #77 on January 07, 2023, 09:27:03 am by Spud »
Seems the main criticism of Mitchell is distribution but personally I think he’s not that bad at anyway. Every L2 & L1 keeper is going to put it out of play a fair bit.

You can go further up the pyramid, championship keepers find touch quite often too, De Gea's feet weren't that clever last night either, Jonny would never live that gaff down here.
If he'd have come from Man City's reserves he'd be much more popular here.

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Re: Loans in and out
« Reply #78 on January 07, 2023, 01:05:50 pm by Upton Rover »
We desperately need a proper keeper.

No we absolutely do not 'desperately need' another keeper.  Good shot stopper, has developed his command of the area and his kicking has improved significantly.  What do you suppose a different keeper would give us that Mitchell doesn't?
Agree that we need another keeper if we are to push for promotion, JM is at best average

So we should waste money on a keeper rather than the required midfielders, wingers and strikers?
you start from the back, if we start to keep clean sheets then the points will take us to L1 Keeper needed but won’t happen

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Re: Loans in and out
« Reply #79 on January 07, 2023, 01:07:40 pm by Upton Rover »
He was only 2nd keeper at Hartlepool because they had a very good keeper.
Still have a very good keeper ( same one )
2nd choice at Hartlepool is not good enough for us,

Spud

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Re: Loans in and out
« Reply #80 on January 07, 2023, 01:12:09 pm by Spud »
We desperately need a proper keeper.

No we absolutely do not 'desperately need' another keeper.  Good shot stopper, has developed his command of the area and his kicking has improved significantly.  What do you suppose a different keeper would give us that Mitchell doesn't?
Agree that we need another keeper if we are to push for promotion, JM is at best average

So we should waste money on a keeper rather than the required midfielders, wingers and strikers?
you start from the back, if we start to keep clean sheets then the points will take us to L1 Keeper needed but won’t happen

So basically, every goal conceded in football is down to the goalkeeper. What a simplistic way of looking at things.

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Re: Loans in and out
« Reply #81 on January 07, 2023, 01:15:51 pm by IDM »
We desperately need a proper keeper.

No we absolutely do not 'desperately need' another keeper.  Good shot stopper, has developed his command of the area and his kicking has improved significantly.  What do you suppose a different keeper would give us that Mitchell doesn't?
Agree that we need another keeper if we are to push for promotion, JM is at best average

So we should waste money on a keeper rather than the required midfielders, wingers and strikers?
you start from the back, if we start to keep clean sheets then the points will take us to L1 Keeper needed but won’t happen

Is it always a keepers fault when a team concedes a goal?  Defences that concede fewer chances would concede fewer goals irrespective of the quality of the man or woman in nets..

andyst79

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Re: Loans in and out
« Reply #82 on January 07, 2023, 01:28:21 pm by andyst79 »
He was only 2nd keeper at Hartlepool because they had a very good keeper.
Still have a very good keeper ( same one )
2nd choice at Hartlepool is not good enough for us,
When we're in L2 or even L1 pretty much every signing we make will be at the very least 2nd choice somewhere. Just because they're not fancied elsewhere doesn't mean they're no good. Look at the Marquis signing for instance

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« Reply #83 on January 07, 2023, 04:02:20 pm by steve@dcfd »
Todays bench shows why we need new players.
Yes we have injured players 3 defenders and Rowe. No Clayton or Griffiths who shows he was a risk signing and still can’t on the bench will he be able to go out on loan to a decent level. There’s no one on the bench today who could make a difference and we will be weaker if any come on. Loans are said to be the cherry on top of the cake. So let’s get some good cherries which make our cake more tastier
« Last Edit: January 07, 2023, 04:25:06 pm by steve@dcfd »

Dr Fundlekrotch

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Re: Loans in and out
« Reply #84 on January 07, 2023, 04:08:04 pm by Dr Fundlekrotch »
Back to the original theme of loans, I was surprised to see Woltman on the bench today. My daughter tells me that all pics of him connected to Rovers have been deleted from his Instagram page. Presume he’s on his way out

steve@dcfd

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« Reply #85 on January 07, 2023, 04:56:14 pm by steve@dcfd »
I would hope we get in two good loans at least before next Saturday. Midfield and Forward. Woltman and Andrews could go back.

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« Reply #86 on January 07, 2023, 04:57:47 pm by Arsenal Of The North »
Desperate for some reinforcements, miller looks like he’s blowing out his back side, also needs some help along side him, something extra and different in midfield is needed.

The bench is so weak today, my gut feeling is that Clayton and Rowe have probably been told they are surplus to requirements. I’m not buying rowes absence is due to back spasms still.

Griffiths will be on his way, tomlin to replace, and woltmon and andrews likely to be sent back.

We’re super light and need extra asap 

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« Reply #87 on January 07, 2023, 06:12:24 pm by bobbymax »
Desperate for some reinforcements, miller looks like he’s blowing out his back side, also needs some help along side him, something extra and different in midfield is needed.

The bench is so weak today, my gut feeling is that Clayton and Rowe have probably been told they are surplus to requirements. I’m not buying rowes absence is due to back spasms still.

Griffiths will be on his way, tomlin to replace, and woltmon and andrews likely to be sent back.

We’re super light and need extra asap 
Don't agree with Rowe. He has always had issues with his back but is a key player when fit at this level.

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« Reply #88 on January 07, 2023, 06:38:14 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Rowe won’t be got rid of. The others you mention probably should be plus Barlow, Long and pretty much all our bench players.

Should give us funds to get some better players in.

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« Reply #89 on January 07, 2023, 06:39:30 pm by drfchound »
Who is going to take those players from us though.

 

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