Sunak

[scawsby steve]

Signed his own death warrant as a Prime Minister today.

He'll get f*cking slaughtered in 2024, despite Starmer's weaknesses.

[BillyStubbsTears]

He said something quite ridiculously amateurish yesterday.

He gave those 5 pledges.

He was asked when they'd be met.

It was clear he had a line to stick to. "Inflation will be halved by the end of this year. The others are further down the track."

That wouldn't have been the worst line. It's pretty well certain that inflation will come down by much more than half this year. The others are much longer term aspirations.

But he stumbled into saying the economy would be growing by the end of 2023. That's a hopelessly optimistic guess. The BoE reckon we won't see growth (and even then anemic growth) before Autumn 2024.

He's just given Labour a big stick to beat him with for a year. Very amateurish politics.

[SydneyRover]

''‘Streams as toilets’: Thames Water’s real-time map shows scale of sewage dumps
Data reveals hundreds of hours of discharges via storm overflows in some locations''

A metaphor for the government ...........

https://www.thameswater.co.uk/edm-map

[ncRover]

I don’t think they have the appetite to win the next election. 4 years in opposition would likely be good for them.

[Glyn_Wigley]

I don’t think they have the appetite to win the next election. 4 years in opposition would likely be good for them.

But only for those who manage to hold onto their seat, those that don't won't be in opposition!

[BillyStubbsTears]

I'm really not seeing why it would be good for them.

It's very likely going to happen, but as things stand, I don't see where the Tory party goes from here. They haven't had a political philosophy for over 30 years. They've ruled for the sake of ruling, with zero idea of what future they saw for Britain. There's no indication whatsoever of a new set of ideas emerging on the Right. What's left of the Tory party, a far-right husk, with moderates kicked out, is likely to tear itself apart once they don't even have the discipline of ruling to hold them together.

Imagine the likes of Braverman, Badenoch and Patel fighting for the future direction of the Party!

[danumdon]

When a party that traded as being economically competent manages to perform in such a manner that you end with the worst possible results of managing to ruin the economy as well as cave in to any principles it may have or had then its time to call it a day and let someone else step up to the plate.

The problem you have now is the pretenders to the throne are so scared and unsure of their own principles that there prepared to follow these failures over the top and try to be all things to all men when its won't work as its never worked. "take back control", it sounded pathetic the first time around, to use again demonstrates a detachment from the nation that's amateurish and worrying.

Just where can you get someone with an inkling of statesmanship and leadership to run this country, because no one is covering themselves in glory right now.

Ive never been one for PR but i can see where it may just save us from more years of wasted potential being trashed.

[BobG]

Will the Conservatives welcome the loss of one election as it would put Labour in government at a time when it would be impossible to be popular and impossible to create any sort of feel good factor? It would focus press and popular attention on the Labour Party and shift the focus of debate to the benefit of the Conservative Party. It would also hugely distance the Conservatives from any popular criticism when they next did win since all the ills could then easily be blamed on Labour.

BobG

[ravenrover]

Did anyone watch La Kuenssbergs love in (I'm guessing it was) with Richie this morning? Just to be clear I didn't

[Colin C No.3]

Did anyone watch La Kuenssbergs love in (I'm guessing it was) with Richie this morning? Just to be clear I didn't

I didn’t either raven. I wouldn’t waste my time watching ‘lightweight  political interviewer’s’ like her & Fiona Bruce who has turned Question Time into a ‘pyjama sleepover pillow fight’.

Where are the next Robin Day & Jeremy Paxman ‘hiding’?!

[BobG]

She asked him, repeatedly, if his doctor is private or NHS. He, repeatedly, refused to answer. The Shadow Health Secretary, asked the same question, responded fully.

BobG

[Filo]

Apparently Care Workers need to feel valued rather than get paid what they are worth

[i_ateallthepies]

Heard a snippet on 5Live of him answering a question about the NHS pay talks, 'We've ALWAYS been willing to talk about pay'.  Lifting a page directly out of the Johnson book of 'lying like it's the truth and nobody will notice'.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I thought he was quite slick overall in the interview, but the issue about nurses' pay negotiations gave the game away.

He'd clearly been rehearsing lines he wanted to get across, and that one was cringe worthy when Kuenssberg finally held his feet to the flames.

She asked him SPECIFICALLY if the Govt was prepared to negotiate over pay in THIS financial year. He kept saying that yes, they had already started those negotiations. Said it over and over again. But when Kuenssberg pointed out that was for the NEXT FY, he floundered. A clear attempt to deceive, smoked out. Why do it?

Another point.

Kuenssberg said that they'd invited Sunak into the studio for the interview, but his media team had insisted on it being held in No10. Soft focus of oak panels. Marble fireplace. Massive Union Flag behind him. All about projecting the trappings of power. Clever stuff, intended to deflect from the content of what he was saying.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Apparently Care Workers need to feel valued rather than get paid what they are worth

I remember - after Covid and the Government clapping them had died down and it was time for the first pay round afterwards - Boris saying how much we owed to the NHS workers. At least Boris and those after him have been consistent; they've decided to carry on owing it to them.

[tommy toes]

She should have asked him why the red bus £350million a week that is now going to the NHS as promised by Brexit, is not solving all the problems it has.

[wilts rover]

In a 20 minute interview he said nothing of any particular relevance or interest and did that Johnson thing of attempting to talk non-stop when answering a question so that the interviewer can't get a follow-up question in as soon as he veers off-topic. It's embarrassing when an MP does it, shameful for the person who runs the country.

What is most damaging though is summed up here by Lord Wood:

Leadership on the NHS crisis requires a PM with an analysis of why the NHS spent a decade getting into today’s sorry state, setting out a policy response that fits the analysis. A big, frank, challenging speech. The @bbclaurak interview with Rishi Sunak showed he can’t do that.

https://twitter.com/StewartWood/status/1612043409556135937

He is a mini-Johnson with a better PR team but worse public speaking skills. A vacuous, millionaire ex-public schoolboy who wants power for the prestige it brings him and his mates. He appears to have no understanding, or interest, in how the country runs, or what needs to be done to fix it.

[SydneyRover]

If the UK was a private company sunak would have voted to sack the board and sold his shares.