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[Nudga]

Is there anyone who thinks Schofield is doing a decent job ? Imo he’s not even L2 quality .

out of his depth for me. Wrong man at the wrong time for us.

The tools he's been given are blunt. He doesn't stand a chance here.

[The Beast]

Is there anyone who thinks Schofield is doing a decent job ? Imo he’s not even L2 quality .

out of his depth for me. Wrong man at the wrong time for us.

The tools he's been given are blunt. He doesn't stand a chance here.

He didn't know Nelson was coming until he was in the door apparently, an agent connection. So maybe I've a little sympathy.

[Thorney]

Is there anyone who thinks Schofield is doing a decent job ? Imo he’s not even L2 quality .

out of his depth for me. Wrong man at the wrong time for us.

The tools he's been given are blunt. He doesn't stand a chance here.

While he hasn't got us flying up the league yet, let's give him some time guys. Don't want to be a club that screams sack the manager every season. They arnt going to sack him if we do.
He does need to realise that we arnt going to win games with the way we are defending. Really  needs to sort out that defenders need to be able to defend before being a good ball playing defender.

[since-1969]

What has he and his army of helpers been doing for the last 3 weeks ? If he can’t motivate the team and demonstrate to all the new faces that he has a grip on all their futures , then he has  to go . Pitiful performances from them ALL .

[ForsolongaRover]

Almost exclusively we have signed players who have not been regular starters for teams even in League 2, let alone better than that standard. Discounting Knoyle who has gone, Lavery is probably the first since Tommy Rowe that is also still here that have actually got a thing or two on his cv to prove some past achievement. The rest have been either cast offs, like Agard and Clayton or younger players whose only experience has been on loans (which do not look as though they have been successful).

McSheffery got something out of some of them, but under Schofield the same players have not progressed. So, continuing the same policy of spending minimal amounts is presumably because he thinks (or the club believes) he is such a good coach that he can transform them into useful assets. That seems very dubious. It may not be quite the same as calling in players from the Sunday League, but to base your team substantially around such a core looks foolhardy.

[EasyforDennis]

Is there anyone who thinks Schofield is doing a decent job ? Imo he’s not even L2 quality .

out of his depth for me. Wrong man at the wrong time for us.

The tools he's been given are blunt. He doesn't stand a chance here.

Blunt is definitely a tool.

[danumdon]

We had this very same problem when SOD first came here, he was an experienced manager who wanted to play a slow, quick, slow technical game with proper footballers, he had some quality in his squad and nearly got away with it. His failings just like now was he never managed to address a very poor defence, we always lacked the two extra defenders with enough about them to rally kick on, if he had got them players in that team could of challenged at the top of the championship.

Back to this lot today, we have lower quality players attempting to achieve pretty similar things, but as before its built on sand because the two or three quality players we have will never make up for the absolute dross we have in the defensive unit.

What needs to happen is a root and branch review of what we have, where we expect to go and what we intend to do about it, with our current model it seems like we are lumbered with certain players come what may but we really need some central defenders with spite and bite alongside some proper heft in the centre of the park, playing two lightweight pretty ball players will,not suffice.

When you look at the Mansfield team today, that's what a proper 4th tier side should look like, players who may be just slightly over the hill for higher leagues but plenty good enough to still perform at this level, with size and experience all over the pitch, we looked like the a junior side in comparison.

Three weeks of waiting for a match to be then served up that!!

We need the management team to step up and tell the owners what we need to succeed because this plainly is not it.

[since-1969]

SOD was given the funds and the backing of JR not the meaningless support of Baldwin and Bunt the football equivalent of the local  undertakers !!

[Cramby10]

Is there anyone who thinks Schofield is doing a decent job ? Imo he’s not even L2 quality .

out of his depth for me. Wrong man at the wrong time for us.

The tools he's been given are blunt. He doesn't stand a chance here.

I appreciate that I am probably in a minority of 1 but I’m glad he hasn’t been let loose with the chequebook. I don’t want us to be burdened with a squad of his players when he inevitably gets the boot in the summer. Loans are fine with me, as they can go back.

[Nudga]

Is there anyone who thinks Schofield is doing a decent job ? Imo he’s not even L2 quality .

out of his depth for me. Wrong man at the wrong time for us.

The tools he's been given are blunt. He doesn't stand a chance here.

Blunt is definitely a tool.

You got my drift, well done.

[Nudga]

Is there anyone who thinks Schofield is doing a decent job ? Imo he’s not even L2 quality .

out of his depth for me. Wrong man at the wrong time for us.

The tools he's been given are blunt. He doesn't stand a chance here.

I appreciate that I am probably in a minority of 1 but I’m glad he hasn’t been let loose with the chequebook. I don’t want us to be burdened with a squad of his players when he inevitably gets the boot in the summer. Loans are fine with me, as they can go back.

I actually think he would do very well if he was backed financially.
He isn't so he's scratting around the bottom of the barrel.
If he fails, it's not his doing.

[ForsolongaRover]

I am largely in agreement with the need to spend wisely but do we know whether Schofield has been limited in this respect? Even if the focus is on sustainability and your strength is declining, as it is, buying cheap goods will not even ensure survival!

So achieving sustainability (meaning the status quo) with things as they are looks doubtful.

[dickos1]

SOD was given the funds and the backing of JR not the meaningless support of Baldwin and Bunt the football equivalent of the local  undertakers !!

That the problem with folk like you, they don’t understand what they’re talking about.
Sod was given the funds of brammal

[since-1969]

SOD was given the funds and the backing of JR not the meaningless support of Baldwin and Bunt the football equivalent of the local  undertakers !!

That the problem with folk like you, they don’t understand what they’re talking about.
Sod was given the funds of brammal

And if THAT was the case and I doubt it , as it was a 33% each split between the 3 Directors where investment in players was concerned …. why has he stopped ?

[normal rules]

4-1 flattered them . They took their chances rovers didn’t. Even their own fans saying they rode their luck

[dickos1]

SOD was given the funds and the backing of JR not the meaningless support of Baldwin and Bunt the football equivalent of the local  undertakers !!

That the problem with folk like you, they don’t understand what they’re talking about.
Sod was given the funds of brammal

And if THAT was the case and I doubt it , as it was a 33% each split between the 3 Directors where investment in players was concerned …. why has he stopped ?

Exactly, so why did you only say Ryan?
Ryan got brammal on board because he needed the extra money which brammal gave to sign players like sharp, mills etc

[ravenrover]

Think it ended up with The 2 amigos providing nearly all of the funding when JRs funds ran low

[Chris Black come back]

Terry Bramall.

[StocksArmy]

Instead of picking out individuals and areas we are poor in, why not look at the areas we are actually weak which is the board and investment? Instead of sitting on the fence and saying " nothing against the lad but"..... just say it as it is! The recruitment is shambolic, the guys we are bringing in havent suceeded to be good enough anywhere in the football league, EVER. The board wont put any money in, Blunt is an egg chasing fan and we are drip fed only pieces of truth. So lets for god sake call it as it is. We are sh!t with no ambition and stop with the... we need a new right back, keeper, so and so has left for more money etc. These things will always happen while these people own the club.

[grayx]

Is there anyone who thinks Schofield is doing a decent job ? Imo he’s not even L2 quality .

out of his depth for me. Wrong man at the wrong time for us.

The tools he's been given are blunt. He doesn't stand a chance here.

He didn't know Nelson was coming until he was in the door apparently, an agent connection. So maybe I've a little sympathy.

Thats not good if true.

[German Rover]

Instead of picking out individuals and areas we are poor in, why not look at the areas we are actually weak which is the board and investment? Instead of sitting on the fence and saying " nothing against the lad but"..... just say it as it is! The recruitment is shambolic, the guys we are bringing in havent suceeded to be good enough anywhere in the football league, EVER. The board wont put any money in, Blunt is an egg chasing fan and we are drip fed only pieces of truth. So lets for god sake call it as it is. We are sh!t with no ambition and stop with the... we need a new right back, keeper, so and so has left for more money etc. These things will always happen while these people own the club.

Blunt is an ex professional footballer and therefore probably knows more about football than the majority of us on this forum.

[drfchound]

I’ve made this point for the past two seasons now. We are the softest possible touch at the back. We barely ever keep a clean sheet and it’s not because there isn’t midfield cover, it’s because the defensive unit is shockingly bad and seem to think they are Newcastle circa 1996 when conceding 3 piss poor goals is fine because we can score 4 at the other end.

Keeping a clean sheet is not just numbers or not on a page, it’s a state of mind and a grudging reluctance to let the other side get away with even the smallest victory. This lot like their predecessors the last few season seem to think it is a minor occupational hazard to pretty much always concede.

And again, this is not the Championship. We are playing one tier above the part time lads.

Not strictly true.
Most teams in the NL are full time pro.

[Campsall rover]

The National league is in effect League 3

[drfchound]

Also, a friend of mine who is in NL North tells me that most of the clubs in that league are full time too.
I can’t back that up but am just reporting what he said.

[roversdude]

Is there anyone who thinks Schofield is doing a decent job ? Imo he’s not even L2 quality .

out of his depth for me. Wrong man at the wrong time for us.

The tools he's been given are blunt. He doesn't stand a chance here.

He didn't know Nelson was coming until he was in the door apparently, an agent connection. So maybe I've a little sympathy.

Find that very hard to believe

[Draytonian III]

Charlie Seaman is awful and Molyneux flatters to deceive in virtually every gane.. simply not good enough. 

Correct

[andyst79]

I’ve made this point for the past two seasons now. We are the softest possible touch at the back. We barely ever keep a clean sheet and it’s not because there isn’t midfield cover, it’s because the defensive unit is shockingly bad and seem to think they are Newcastle circa 1996 when conceding 3 piss poor goals is fine because we can score 4 at the other end.

Keeping a clean sheet is not just numbers or not on a page, it’s a state of mind and a grudging reluctance to let the other side get away with even the smallest victory. This lot like their predecessors the last few season seem to think it is a minor occupational hazard to pretty much always concede.

And again, this is not the Championship. We are playing one tier above the part time lads.

Exactly this, no matter who we have as manager the rot has truly set in and it's almost acceptable to conceded. The whole defensive unit needs pretty much disbanding and starting again with some fresh faces pre season. I'd keep Maxwell, I have no issues with Mitchell either. The  defence we had under Saunders was a proper defence where everyone knew their limitations but did their jobs and defended as if their lives depended on it. Need to get back to basics.

[rich1471]

I’ve made this point for the past two seasons now. We are the softest possible touch at the back. We barely ever keep a clean sheet and it’s not because there isn’t midfield cover, it’s because the defensive unit is shockingly bad and seem to think they are Newcastle circa 1996 when conceding 3 piss poor goals is fine because we can score 4 at the other end.

Keeping a clean sheet is not just numbers or not on a page, it’s a state of mind and a grudging reluctance to let the other side get away with even the smallest victory. This lot like their predecessors the last few season seem to think it is a minor occupational hazard to pretty much always concede.

And again, this is not the Championship. We are playing one tier above the part time lads.

Exactly this, no matter who we have as manager the rot has truly set in and it's almost acceptable to conceded. The whole defensive unit needs pretty much disbanding and starting again with some fresh faces pre season. I'd keep Maxwell, I have no issues with Mitchell either. The  defence we had under Saunders was a proper defence where everyone knew their limitations but did their jobs and defended as if their lives depended on it. Need to get back to basics.

Newcastle used to let in goals left right and center ,under Howe no one of the back 4 plus goal keeper are under 6ft 2 and the goals conceeded has almost dried up

[NickDRFC]

I’ve made this point for the past two seasons now. We are the softest possible touch at the back. We barely ever keep a clean sheet and it’s not because there isn’t midfield cover, it’s because the defensive unit is shockingly bad and seem to think they are Newcastle circa 1996 when conceding 3 piss poor goals is fine because we can score 4 at the other end.

Keeping a clean sheet is not just numbers or not on a page, it’s a state of mind and a grudging reluctance to let the other side get away with even the smallest victory. This lot like their predecessors the last few season seem to think it is a minor occupational hazard to pretty much always concede.

And again, this is not the Championship. We are playing one tier above the part time lads.

Exactly this, no matter who we have as manager the rot has truly set in and it's almost acceptable to conceded. The whole defensive unit needs pretty much disbanding and starting again with some fresh faces pre season. I'd keep Maxwell, I have no issues with Mitchell either. The  defence we had under Saunders was a proper defence where everyone knew their limitations but did their jobs and defended as if their lives depended on it. Need to get back to basics.

Newcastle used to let in goals left right and center ,under Howe no one of the back 4 plus goal keeper are under 6ft 2 and the goals conceeded has almost dried up

Ha not quite, Kieran Trippier is tiny, must only be about 5”9!

[Chris Black come back]

If we lose today:

Schofield - 16 points from 12 games @ 1.33ppg
McSheffrey - 21 points from 14 games @ 1.5ppg

Adjusting this after today:

Schofield - 16 points from 13 games @ 1.23ppg
McSheffrey - 21 points from 14 games @ 1.5ppg

It is now not possible for Schofield to match the record McSheffrey had this season from the same games.