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mushRTID

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Re: Meet the owners
« Reply #60 on February 13, 2023, 08:32:45 pm by mushRTID »
Perhaps they should have had a fireworks display?

Really weird comment.



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« Reply #61 on February 13, 2023, 08:34:09 pm by Filo »
Did the sack the board lot attend and get any questions in?

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« Reply #62 on February 13, 2023, 08:35:45 pm by drfchound »
Perhaps they should have had a fireworks display?

Really weird comment.

Yep.  Crackers.

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« Reply #63 on February 13, 2023, 08:43:22 pm by DonnyOsmond »
Coppinger and Schofield were very impressive. A really good presentation it’s just a shame it ate into the question time as there was nowhere near enough time. Coppinger very passionate.

You look at and listen to those two and have confidence.


Gavin telling us our model works better on L1 which makes a mockery of appointing McSheffrey when we were in trouble.

Gavin also told us Bramall has put in 12.6m which goes against the 20m figure that keeps getting spoken of. Still a generous figure but is it enough?

The £20m may be including Dick's contribution.

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« Reply #64 on February 13, 2023, 08:43:31 pm by roversdude »
Did the sack the board lot attend and get any questions in?

Of course not

DonnyBazR0ver

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« Reply #65 on February 13, 2023, 08:51:57 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Coppinger and Schofield were very impressive. A really good presentation it’s just a shame it ate into the question time as there was nowhere near enough time. Coppinger very passionate.

You look at and listen to those two and have confidence.


Gavin telling us our model works better on L1 which makes a mockery of appointing McSheffrey when we were in trouble.

Gavin also told us Bramall has put in 12.6m which goes against the 20m figure that keeps getting spoken of. Still a generous figure but is it enough?

On the issue of TBs contribution, I may be wrong but I think the £20m plus figure came from Kieran Maguire when he referred to the 'owners' contribution overall so that could be the combination of JR, DW and TB since 2006 which of course as time has passed TB has become the major contributor, so that might explain it.

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« Reply #66 on February 13, 2023, 09:00:31 pm by roversdude »
Major takeaways for me
Copps has worked really hard to put the structure in place behind the scenes
Never been refused anything he has asked for
Yeah we have to work within the resources
League one easier to be sustainable than League two
Contract finalisation starts on Wednesday players are wanting to stay whereby earlier in the season they maybe wouldn’t have wanted to
Ideal world we have 18/19 players on contract ready for next season
Didn’t think it really fair some of the loaded questions Gavin asked Copps
Get the feeling TB is getting ready to walk away

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« Reply #67 on February 13, 2023, 09:00:58 pm by Alan Southstand »
Resources or Lack of:

Copps:

Club focuses on player development as they don’t have money to challenge for ready-made talent.

In terms of loan players, sometimes resources dictate what we can and can’t do.

‘I understand your concerns - I have the same concerns - but it’s about making do with what we’ve got available.’

‘We might not be able to handpick the best of the best but we believe we can get people to be a part of the club and fall in love with this club.’

League Two - it’s very, very tight on what we can recruit.

roversdude

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« Reply #68 on February 13, 2023, 09:06:56 pm by roversdude »
That could be said for any team in the land Alan

Alan Southstand

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« Reply #69 on February 13, 2023, 09:10:15 pm by Alan Southstand »
Don’t shoot the messenger!

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« Reply #70 on February 13, 2023, 09:18:03 pm by silent majority »
Coppinger and Schofield were very impressive. A really good presentation it’s just a shame it ate into the question time as there was nowhere near enough time. Coppinger very passionate.

You look at and listen to those two and have confidence.


Gavin telling us our model works better on L1 which makes a mockery of appointing McSheffrey when we were in trouble.

Gavin also told us Bramall has put in 12.6m which goes against the 20m figure that keeps getting spoken of. Still a generous figure but is it enough?

The £20m may be including Dick's contribution.

TB and DW contributed £25m between them.

silent majority

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« Reply #71 on February 13, 2023, 09:26:38 pm by silent majority »
I could be wrong but I thought Copps was trying to send a subliminal message to the board that we need more investment. He spoke well and was very passionate. The club clearly means a lot to him.

Not sure why he would need to send a subliminal message when he meets them every week. Surely that’s the time to do it?

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« Reply #72 on February 13, 2023, 09:31:55 pm by Lesonthewest »
Resources or Lack of:

Copps:

Club focuses on player development as they don’t have money to challenge for ready-made talent.

In terms of loan players, sometimes resources dictate what we can and can’t do.

‘I understand your concerns - I have the same concerns - but it’s about making do with what we’ve got available.’

‘We might not be able to handpick the best of the best but we believe we can get people to be a part of the club and fall in love with this club.’

League Two - it’s very, very tight on what we can recruit.

Think we can draw our own conclusions to this.

DonnyBazR0ver

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« Reply #73 on February 13, 2023, 09:33:19 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
It's difficult to get a real sense of what was said unless you were there. Interpreting the snippets from the DFP doesn't always tell the whole story and I'll reserve full judgement when I watch it back on YouTube.

Certainly sounds that Copps and DS prepared well and gave a good insight into the footballing side.

I get a sense that GB, Copps and DS are demonstrating they are doing more than their bit with the resources we have.  Perhaps the questions GB put to Copps were expected and intentional?

Again, I may be reading more into this than necessary.

The next test as discussed is the contract renewals.

I'm kinda surprised David Blunt wasn't held to account about his statement about 'Bouncing back decisively' and what he could have done to be more decisive! (Of course, he could say the season isn't over yet and promotion is still a possibility)

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Re: Meet the owners
« Reply #74 on February 13, 2023, 09:36:17 pm by Prez »
I could be wrong but I thought Copps was trying to send a subliminal message to the board that we need more investment. He spoke well and was very passionate. The club clearly means a lot to him.

Not sure why he would need to send a subliminal message when he meets them every week. Surely that’s the time to do it?

I did open that post with "I could be wrong" Martin.


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« Reply #75 on February 13, 2023, 09:37:03 pm by andy didcott »
Copps loves this club, him and Danny came across really well tonight. With the staff they have and the backing of the board I think we are on the up, will take time though as lots of changes have been made. Didn’t know we had 10 scouts all over the UK.

silent majority

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« Reply #76 on February 13, 2023, 10:30:08 pm by silent majority »
I could be wrong but I thought Copps was trying to send a subliminal message to the board that we need more investment. He spoke well and was very passionate. The club clearly means a lot to him.

Not sure why he would need to send a subliminal message when he meets them every week. Surely that’s the time to do it?

I did open that post with "I could be wrong" Martin.



So you did, sorry.

mushRTID

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« Reply #77 on February 13, 2023, 10:34:19 pm by mushRTID »
I thought David Blunt looked quite disinterested and for the first half, quite angry!

I think the first thing he said was that the fans should bring a friend to get attendances up.

It almost felt like he was saying they have now done their bit and got us sustainable, now it’s our job to increase funds.

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« Reply #78 on February 13, 2023, 10:36:26 pm by bpoolrover »
I thought David Blunt looked quite disinterested and for the first half, quite angry!

I think the first thing he said was that the fans should bring a friend to get attendances up.

It almost felt like he was saying they have now done their bit and got us sustainable, now it’s our job to increase funds.
it’s a good idea and if we play like we did against Swindon they might come back, play like we have in many games and you won’t see them ever again

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« Reply #79 on February 13, 2023, 11:47:12 pm by since-1969 »
I thought David Blunt looked quite disinterested and for the first half, quite angry!

I think the first thing he said was that the fans should bring a friend to get attendances up.

It almost felt like he was saying they have now done their bit and got us sustainable, now it’s our job to increase funds.
Quite right . Put the supporters in charge of their club NOW that would be step in the right direction!!

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« Reply #80 on February 14, 2023, 04:35:15 am by Sammy Chung was King »
It must hurt the owner, when people after all these years ,give the impression they don’t trust him, as though all this time he’s really wanted the stadium and grounds, as in the protection order on it.

I’ve never doubted that he is a good man, doing what he sees is best for the club. Where I deviate is that ,here and there the team just needs one or two real class players, to take the team onto the next level.
It must be a big upkeep to maintain a place the size of the stadium, but toilets must be at least clean.

They are right the town, city whatever we see ourselves as, hasn’t really backed up the effort he or John Ryan or others have put in, in a consistent manner.
Our fan base has always been very fickle. We have a hardcore of support as good as any in the land, but our floating supporters as soon as things aren’t going well, off they trot.
I realise some can’t go due to financial, health or whatever reasons.

We need a regular crowd of around ten thousand I would say to allow us to compete properly in leagues one or two.
A lot of questions answered there last night. It’s good that they do these nights. It stops supporters guessing what is going off.

 We know reasons why things are done in a certain way.
It was also helpful that we had won the last two games, as the atmosphere was always going to be better after that. Seemed to be a successful night to me.

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« Reply #81 on February 14, 2023, 07:13:00 am by Janso »
I thought David Blunt looked quite disinterested and for the first half, quite angry!

I think the first thing he said was that the fans should bring a friend to get attendances up.

It almost felt like he was saying they have now done their bit and got us sustainable, now it’s our job to increase funds.
Quite right . Put the supporters in charge of their club NOW that would be step in the right direction!!

If we put fans in charge we'd be changing manager every other month.

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« Reply #82 on February 14, 2023, 07:28:59 am by sedwardsdrfc »
I can get them been on the defensive. I mean it’s not been great and they’ll know a lot of fans blame them, rightly or wrongly.

Calling us to get more fans in isn’t that unusual. John Ryan regularly made that plea. As has been said you’d fear bringing a friend this and last season.

DonnyBazR0ver

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« Reply #83 on February 14, 2023, 08:11:51 am by DonnyBazR0ver »
Wouldn't it be novel if the fortunes of football clubs depended on fans coming through the turnstiles?

What if our operational costs were covered by Club Doncaster income so every penny contributed by fans from ticket sales, shirt sales etc plus EFL loyalty and prize money went directly into the playing budget?

With the billions being lavished on elite player wages and transfer fees with the huge rewards in the EPL, football has lost sight of this simple formula and breaks the direct link between fans and it's players.

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« Reply #84 on February 14, 2023, 08:26:16 am by steve@dcfd »
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I'm kinda surprised David Blunt wasn't held to account about his statement about 'Bouncing back decisively' and what he could have done to be more decisive! (Of course, he could say the season isn't over yet and promotion is still a possibility)

I did send an email via the Doncaster Rovers email link to ask questions about Bouncing Back Decisively
“Question for Mr Blunt
You said at the beginning of this season we would Bounce Back Decisively after being relegated.
Could you explain what evidence you had at that time to make that statement and do you still believe it is achievable this season.”
But it appears it wasn’t asked

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« Reply #85 on February 14, 2023, 09:18:10 am by DonnyBazR0ver »
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DBR

I'm kinda surprised David Blunt wasn't held to account about his statement about 'Bouncing back decisively' and what he could have done to be more decisive! (Of course, he could say the season isn't over yet and promotion is still a possibility)

I did send an email via the Doncaster Rovers email link to ask questions about Bouncing Back Decisively
“Question for Mr Blunt
You said at the beginning of this season we would Bounce Back Decisively after being relegated.
Could you explain what evidence you had at that time to make that statement and do you still believe it is achievable this season.”
But it appears it wasn’t asked


Maybe we could arrange for the unasked questions to be answered?

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« Reply #86 on February 14, 2023, 09:23:07 am by dickos1 »
I thought David Blunt looked quite disinterested and for the first half, quite angry!

I think the first thing he said was that the fans should bring a friend to get attendances up.

It almost felt like he was saying they have now done their bit and got us sustainable, now it’s our job to increase funds.
Quite right . Put the supporters in charge of their club NOW that would be step in the right direction!!
Imagine putting folk like you in charge.
Scares me to death

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steve@dcfd

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« Reply #88 on February 14, 2023, 09:55:37 am by steve@dcfd »
Coppinger and Schofield were very impressive. A really good presentation it’s just a shame it ate into the question time as there was nowhere near enough time. Coppinger very passionate.

You look at and listen to those two and have confidence.


Gavin telling us our model works better on L1 which makes a mockery of appointing McSheffrey when we were in trouble.

Gavin also told us Bramall has put in 12.6m which goes against the 20m figure that keeps getting spoken of. Still a generous figure but is it enough?

The £20m may be including Dick's contribution.

TB and DW contributed £25m between them.
That was while DW was alive that is not now. It was shared equally then so why did TB say we are a league 2 club while linking it to £25m. Since sustainability and TB not putting money into budget we have gone from league 1 to league 2.

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« Reply #89 on February 14, 2023, 10:17:37 am by normal rules »
Coppinger and Schofield were very impressive. A really good presentation it’s just a shame it ate into the question time as there was nowhere near enough time. Coppinger very passionate.

You look at and listen to those two and have confidence.


Gavin telling us our model works better on L1 which makes a mockery of appointing McSheffrey when we were in trouble.

Gavin also told us Bramall has put in 12.6m which goes against the 20m figure that keeps getting spoken of. Still a generous figure but is it enough?

The £20m may be including Dick's contribution.

TB and DW contributed £25m between them.
That was while DW was alive that is not now. It was shared equally then so why did TB say we are a league 2 club while linking it to £25m. Since sustainability and TB not putting money into budget we have gone from league 1 to league 2.

Relegation was down to crap management, a bad batch of recruited players and poor play.
In another season, with a steady manager and some consistency, rovers would not have been relegated.
But that’s football for you.
People forget that the squad rovers had for their promotion to the championship were not a hatful of household names commanding huge wages. They were a unit of players who played together consistently as a squad with a good manager. With a solid central spine from front to back. Rob Jones, was worth 2 centre halves on his own. And he added to the goal tally too. Rovers have strayed widely from this setup. But I believe they are on their way back to achieving consistency and a better standard of playing.

 

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