Roald Dahl

[ncRover]

The children’s books are getting edited by “sensitivity readers” so that nobody gets offended by terms such as “fat” and “ugly”.

I don’t even know where to start with this. Is anybody here going to defend such editing of the past? It might seem like nothing but it’s a slippery slope.

Full examples provided in this article.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/02/17/roald-dahl-woke-overhaul-offensive-words-removed/

[Filo]

The world has gone mad, people seek things to be offended about, Tiger Woods banter between friends is another example!

[ncRover]

Here’s another one:

“Medieval classics may be ‘racist and misogynist’, say Oxford scholars

University puts trigger warning on works such as The Canterbury Tales as students told they might encounter ‘troubling’ themes”

Fancy that!

[scawsby steve]

Here’s another one:

“Medieval classics may be ‘racist and misogynist’, say Oxford scholars

University puts trigger warning on works such as The Canterbury Tales as students told they might encounter ‘troubling’ themes”

Fancy that!

As part of my degree, we studied the great Thomas Hardy, one of my favourite authors of all time. One of the women on the course, an ultra feminist, maintained that Hardy's novels showed him to be a misogynist.

Unbelievable.

[BillyStubbsTears]

People can be two things SS. It's possible to be a truly great artist and also to be an utter t**t.

[scawsby steve]

People can be two things SS. It's possible to be a truly great artist and also to be an utter t**t.

Which one of Hardy's novels shows him to be an utter tw*t?

[Nudga]

Here comes the far  left.

[BillyStubbsTears]

People can be two things SS. It's possible to be a truly great artist and also to be an utter t**t.

Which one of Hardy's novels shows him to be an utter tw*t?

I've no idea. I've never read any. I was speaking generally.

[Glyn_Wigley]

It's just like when Bowdler cleaned up Shakespeare. Political Correctness gone mad!!

[wilts rover]

Here’s another one:

“Medieval classics may be ‘racist and misogynist’, say Oxford scholars

University puts trigger warning on works such as The Canterbury Tales as students told they might encounter ‘troubling’ themes”

Fancy that!

As part of my degree, we studied the great Thomas Hardy, one of my favourite authors of all time. One of the women on the course, an ultra feminist, maintained that Hardy's novels showed him to be a misogynist.

Unbelievable.

What evidence did she give for this SS?

[SydneyRover]

I suppose one could view 'editing' as how society develops, teaches and adapts to more modern thinking. We wouldn't want any curriculum to stay static forever, would we? The original books will still be there in a dusty corner for reference so we can look back to see if the changes made were correct.

[Nudga]

If modern thinking goes as far as removing the words small men for small people and removing the word female, then it won't be long before history is rewritten.
Maybe the church will rewrite religion.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2018/nov/21/not-in-his-name-god-is-gender-neutral-says-archbishop-of-canterbury

Oh, The Arch Bishop of Banterbury is already trying.

I have brought my kids up to be non racists and non homophobic, but I'll be honest, I cannot tolerate this whole new woke bullshit.
It's polluting young minds, especially the vulnerable.
72 genders! My left hairy male bollock!
I will refuse to pander to the pronoun brigade because where will it stop?

[SydneyRover]

The AB of C makes a proclamation about something that was invented thousands of years ago and you're concerned about it?

There are 4,000 recognised religions in the world all speak the truth

[ncRover]

I suppose one could view 'editing' as how society develops, teaches and adapts to more modern thinking. We wouldn't want any curriculum to stay static forever, would we? The original books will still be there in a dusty corner for reference so we can look back to see if the changes made were correct.

Write new books that are better perhaps instead of editing the creative works of someone long dead who can’t say otherwise?

Do you think it’s offensive to paint a caricature baddy as fat and ugly? This is about “diversity” apparently. Nudga is right, where does it end?

[Nudga]

Sydney, another ten or twenty years people may have the acronym pronoun MAP in their email bio, would that be acceptable?

[SydneyRover]

The world and those in it are in constant flux and I don't see things the same way as my parents but learn from the grandkids. As I said the original books are still there and besides if things stayed the same what would Tony Robinson do for a living?

[ncRover]

The world and those in it are in constant flux and I don't see things the same way as my parents but learn from the grandkids. As I said the original books are still there and besides if things stayed the same what would Tony Robinson do for a living?

Of course, but the past can’t be changed? Like Is aid people are free to write new books.

If we remove everything slightly uncomfortable or offensive for the next generation they will wilt at the smallest pressure in life.

You didn’t answer my previous question. Do you agree with what these people thought were “offensive”?

[ncRover]

Sydney maybe look up what Nudga meant there

[SydneyRover]

why?

[tyke1962]

The world and those in it are in constant flux and I don't see things the same way as my parents but learn from the grandkids. As I said the original books are still there and besides if things stayed the same what would Tony Robinson do for a living?

Of course, but the past can’t be changed? Like Is aid people are free to write new books.

If we remove everything slightly uncomfortable or offensive for the next generation they will wilt at the smallest pressure in life.

You didn’t answer my previous question. Do you agree with what these people thought were “offensive”?

Isn't that the truth .

Attempting to remove ALL adversity in life creates weak character which then manifests itself in even greater problems such as susceptibility to mental health issues .

Adversity builds character and makes you not only stronger but wiser too .

Life is a rollercoaster not a Dutch railway line .

Common sense please .

[SydneyRover]

There are so many other things to get concerned about, for me this ain't one of them.

[wilts rover]

The world and those in it are in constant flux and I don't see things the same way as my parents but learn from the grandkids. As I said the original books are still there and besides if things stayed the same what would Tony Robinson do for a living?

Of course, but the past can’t be changed? Like Is aid people are free to write new books.

If we remove everything slightly uncomfortable or offensive for the next generation they will wilt at the smallest pressure in life.

You didn’t answer my previous question. Do you agree with what these people thought were “offensive”?

The past is always being changed - it's how historians make a living.

Current societies have always attempted to shape the ideas put forward in the present too. There was massive censorship in Hardy's time which affected his writing - as SS can no doubt tell us.

[Nudga]

His story.

[Bentley Bullet]

Things that were once acceptable are often not nowadays. If judgment was brought against us now for some of our behaviour 40-odd years ago half of us would be locked up!

On the other hand, things that were once unacceptable are often acceptable now. Many people who were locked up for unacceptable behaviour back then wouldn't be now.

The past is the past.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I suppose one could view 'editing' as how society develops, teaches and adapts to more modern thinking. We wouldn't want any curriculum to stay static forever, would we? The original books will still be there in a dusty corner for reference so we can look back to see if the changes made were correct.

Write new books that are better perhaps instead of editing the creative works of someone long dead who can’t say otherwise?

Do you think it’s offensive to paint a caricature baddy as fat and ugly? This is about “diversity” apparently. Nudga is right, where does it end?

Let's explore your logic

Do you think it offensive to  set a caricature baddy as a Jew?

[Bentley Bullet]

Is it offensive to portray Boris Johnson as a pig?

[ravenrover]

What will we need to start calling Asian restaurants, we won't be able to call them Thai or Indian or Chinese if some had their way. The corner shop run by a family from Pakistan was always call The Pa........ no I better not say it don't want to offend anyone but it was never meant to be offensive when I was young

[ravenrover]

Is it offensive to portray Boris Johnson as a pig?

Yes a pig is grown up, a greasy piglet on the other hand.....

[BillyStubbsTears]

Is it offensive to portray Boris Johnson as a pig?

I imagine the pig is traumatised by the comparison.

[ncRover]

I suppose one could view 'editing' as how society develops, teaches and adapts to more modern thinking. We wouldn't want any curriculum to stay static forever, would we? The original books will still be there in a dusty corner for reference so we can look back to see if the changes made were correct.

Write new books that are better perhaps instead of editing the creative works of someone long dead who can’t say otherwise?

Do you think it’s offensive to paint a caricature baddy as fat and ugly? This is about “diversity” apparently. Nudga is right, where does it end?

Let's explore your logic

Do you think it offensive to  set a caricature baddy as a Jew?

No not really, why? That wasn’t the point in question.