Mitchell’s distribution

[ncRover]

Great shot stopper awful distributor

And add awful decisions making. He has made some great saves but that is far outnumbered by errors.

GazLaz will have the stats to prove/disprove this

[scawsby steve]

Can someone provide a list of the League 2 keepers who are all better than Mitchell, and who are in Rovers' wages range.

In your own time.

[ncRover]

Can someone provide a list of the League 2 keepers who are all better than Mitchell, and who are in Rovers' wages range.

In your own time.

League 2 save percentages

https://www.fotmob.com/leagues/109/stats/season/17836/players/_save_percentage/league-two-players

[drfchound]

The defenders in front of the keeper will have an effect on those save percentages.

[ncRover]

The defenders in front of the keeper will have an effect on those save percentages.

True, a good defence means that opposition attackers get more desperate with their attempts.

But here is league 2 goalkeepers “Goals prevented” also

https://www.fotmob.com/leagues/109/stats/season/17836/players/_goals_prevented/league-two-players

[sedwardsdrfc]

Looking at those lists a Keeper has to be a priority in the summer. I’ve always thought he wasn’t that bad just a poor kicker who is been asked to play like a good one. But sometimes the stats cut through especially when comparing to his peers.

We’re not at the bottom of the league so you’d expect him to be mid table or there abouts

[drfchound]

The defenders in front of the keeper will have an effect on those save percentages.

True, a good defence means that opposition attackers get more desperate with their attempts.

But here is league 2 goalkeepers “Goals prevented” also

https://www.fotmob.com/leagues/109/stats/season/17836/players/_goals_prevented/league-two-players

This might be a silly question but what does “goals prevented” actually refer to.

[Move DRFC]

If we want to play this possession based football, play out from the back etc, then we need a new keeper. He's a good shot stopper but distribution is terrible and he's not great with crosses is he.

DM dropped Lawlor and got Dieng in which seemed harsh at the time but it suited how we wanted to play and turned into a very good decision. I don't expect Mitchell to be offered a new deal.

[ncRover]

The defenders in front of the keeper will have an effect on those save percentages.

True, a good defence means that opposition attackers get more desperate with their attempts.

But here is league 2 goalkeepers “Goals prevented” also

https://www.fotmob.com/leagues/109/stats/season/17836/players/_goals_prevented/league-two-players

This might be a silly question but what does “goals prevented” actually refer to.

It uses expected goals data (based on the quality of the chance) and combines it with say expected saves (based on the quality of the shot on target).

Mitchell’s brilliant saves do not make up for his errors basically.

Based on shots on target, he has cost us 7.4 goals this season - the worst in the league. Whilst Vigouroux has prevented 5.9 for Orient for example.

Combine this with his poor distribution and it doesn’t look good.

So in answer to the question from SS, I would imagine that at least half of the other league 2 goalies are within our wage budget.

[EasyforDennis]

I don't think a new keeper will be a priority for next season. With the limited budget DS will have at his disposal he should be looking at signing players to beef up the outfield. We need an Alan Little or two in midfield for starters and then a Warby up front.

[ncRover]

I don't think a new keeper will be a priority for next season. With the limited budget DS will have at his disposal he should be looking at signing players to beef up the outfield. We need an Alan Little or two in midfield for starters and then a Warby up front.

Mitchell is out of contract anyway

[Filo]

I don't think a new keeper will be a priority for next season. With the limited budget DS will have at his disposal he should be looking at signing players to beef up the outfield. We need an Alan Little or two in midfield for starters and then a Warby up front.

To be fair as much as we loved Animal, he would spend more time banned than playing these days

[Upton Rover]

Can’t understand the people who praise him, the sooner we get this season over and let him go the better

[Usher down the wing.]

What is a keepers job?

Save shots so agility is important. That’s your starting point & Mitchell has that. He’s made some cracking saves.

Marshall your defence, be vocal. John Wayne couldn’t Marshall that defence. He clearly fails there.

Catching the ball, command your area. His catching has improved but, that corner went straight through his hands on Saturday. The jury’s still out.

Distribution. Diabolical. What does he practice in training? It’s as if he closes his eyes before kicking the ball. Rolling the ball out to defenders (as he’s clearly been instructed to whenever possible), he’s not releasing the ball quick enough. He holds the ball to his chest, looks around, points by which time the opposition has had time to position themselves ready to close down the defender receiving the ball who is then rushed into a decision to release the ball. This usually ends up with the defender giving the ball to an opposing player or passing it back to Mitchell because they don’t have the ability to bring the ball out & hit a penetrating pass.

But unfortunately he’s the best we have at this time.

Practise those bl**dy kicks!

[scawsby steve]

That's it then. Let's prioritise getting a new keeper before any of the utter and total sh*t that's in front of him, from back to front.

Jesus wept.

[ncRover]

That's it then. Let's prioritise getting a new keeper before any of the utter and total sh*t that's in front of him, from back to front.

Jesus wept.

Steve, why not both?

His contract is running out. Based on those stats and his shocking distribution, would you offer him a new contract or start looking for a better upcoming free agent now?

I bet you that he is not playing at this level as a first choice next season.

[Chris Black come back]

He made a mess of the goal on Saturday but all season he has been consistently good under the high ball, in spite of what has been in front of him at times.

[drfchound]

He has been very good all season when coming to collect high balls into the box, which takes pressure off defenders.
To be honest I was shocked when he missed the ball from that corner on Saturday.
When I saw where the ball was going I was very confident that he would deal with it.
As for not releasing the ball quickly, very often there isn’t an option other than dropping it short to a defender in our box.
There is zero movement in front of him and on Saturday the Bradford press was incredibly good.You can see how frustrated he sometimes gets.
People in the crowd shout at him to release the ball quickly but if he did and it resulted in us conceding then the same people would be on his back for playing a team mate into trouble.
Furthermore, if he decides to kick it long who the heck is going to win the ball.

[Bailey Vickerage]

Really surprised he didn’t claim that corner because one of his main strengths is claiming crosses, he’s a decent league 2 keeper and has kept us in a lot of games this season and has probs overall won us more points than he’s lost us.

I do however think he will either be moved on in the summer or kept on but as a backup depending on his wage demands as I think DS will want to bring another keeper in who has better distribution.

[DMnumber4]

That's it then. Let's prioritise getting a new keeper before any of the utter and total sh*t that's in front of him, from back to front.

Jesus wept.

Strikers win you games, defences win you titles. Didn't Cloughie say that when he brought in Shilton?

[EasyforDennis]

Really surprised he didn’t claim that corner because one of his main strengths is claiming crosses, he’s a decent league 2 keeper and has kept us in a lot of games this season and has probs overall won us more points than he’s lost us.

I do however think he will either be moved on in the summer or kept on but as a backup depending on his wage demands as I think DS will want to bring another keeper in who has better distribution.

Goalkeepers don't win you games. They can definitely lose you games though.

[Donnywolf]

If we ever get 1 0 up though and GK saves 2 close range efforts and makes  a bril Penalty save it would be harsh to not say GK won the 3 points ?

OK he didn't score the Goal ( I'm assuming that as he would have won.the game then ) but I'd say he deserved praise for earning us 3 points

[Upton Rover]

He has been very good all season when coming to collect high balls into the box, which takes pressure off defenders.
To be honest I was shocked when he missed the ball from that corner on Saturday.
When I saw where the ball was going I was very confident that he would deal with it.
As for not releasing the ball quickly, very often there isn’t an option other than dropping it short to a defender in our box.
There is zero movement in front of him and on Saturday the Bradford press was incredibly good.You can see how frustrated he sometimes gets.
People in the crowd shout at him to release the ball quickly but if he did and it resulted in us conceding then the same people would be on his back for playing a team mate into trouble.
Furthermore, if he decides to kick it long who the heck is going to win the ball.

Yes he’s good at collecting the balls !!! Out of the back of the net.

[Bentley Bullet]

That's it then. Let's prioritise getting a new keeper before any of the utter and total sh*t that's in front of him, from back to front.

Jesus wept.

Exactly. It'd be like replacing the bowl to rectify a leaky tap!

[scawsby steve]

If we ever get 1 0 up though and GK saves 2 close range efforts and makes  a bril Penalty save it would be harsh to not say GK won the 3 points ?

OK he didn't score the Goal ( I'm assuming that as he would have won.the game then ) but I'd say he deserved praise for earning us 3 points

Exactly, Wolfie. When we won 1-0 at Lincoln in the lockdown season, it was Ellery Balcombe who won us the 3 points that day.

[Chris Black come back]

He also went nuts, piled into one of their players when under no pressure, and conceded a penalty. That he then saved it was little recompense. Total loose cannon and entirely self inflicted.

[drfchound]

He has been very good all season when coming to collect high balls into the box, which takes pressure off defenders.
To be honest I was shocked when he missed the ball from that corner on Saturday.
When I saw where the ball was going I was very confident that he would deal with it.
As for not releasing the ball quickly, very often there isn’t an option other than dropping it short to a defender in our box.
There is zero movement in front of him and on Saturday the Bradford press was incredibly good.You can see how frustrated he sometimes gets.
People in the crowd shout at him to release the ball quickly but if he did and it resulted in us conceding then the same people would be on his back for playing a team mate into trouble.
Furthermore, if he decides to kick it long who the heck is going to win the ball.

Yes he’s good at collecting the balls !!! Out of the back of the net.

You just don’t like him do you.
If he saved 3 penalties you would find a reason to have a pop.

[scawsby steve]

He also went nuts, piled into one of their players when under no pressure, and conceded a penalty. That he then saved it was little recompense. Total loose cannon and entirely self inflicted.

I agree, but it was the fact that he saved 2 penalties that made me think he won us the match. That, plus other good saves.

We were hardly in that game.

[ncRover]

He also went nuts, piled into one of their players when under no pressure, and conceded a penalty. That he then saved it was little recompense. Total loose cannon and entirely self inflicted.

I agree, but it was the fact that he saved 2 penalties that made me think he won us the match. That, plus other good saves.

We were hardly in that game.

I think we’d been riding our luck for a few games, then it started to run out drastically.

[danumdon]

As a keeper at this level i think Mitchell is decent enough, his shot stopping and coming out for crosses is good, his positional sense could do with a bit of a rethink but nothing there too drastic.

His biggest failings are his kicking and distribution. We don't know how much of this is mandated by his coach but the long ball out wide that kept on going out is the percentage play when playing it long , unless you have a proper beast up front who can command the middle of the pitch, so not for us.

Same has his very slow and deliberate handling playing the ball out, i think he's actually speeded this up somewhat from last season but it still leaves him short, the team tactics are a big part of this issue, that and the fact we seem to have a team full of static players every time we have a dead ball situation, be it from Mitchell or from any throw in, when was the last time we won a ball at a throw in ?

Mitchell just needs to be told to look for a quick release every time he has the ball, the rest of the team need to provide him with an outlet to throw the ball out to in the first place to achieve this task. Maybe a quite talk with Jones may help, his biggest plus point was always the quick distribution when playing.