Fed up watching Rovers - the enjoyment has gone

[eastender]

I spent most of yesterday's game berating the whole team which i never thought in a million years would do. I now expect a slow start with us not being able to string 3 passes together, Hurst to nesh every tackle , even move away from their player with the ball instead of challenging , the poor throw in's , Mitchells slow poor kicking and distribution, but i never thought i would see Tommy Rowe being out run , out muscled and out thought in a league 2 game.
I am now dreading the call from the Ticket office asking why i haven't renewed , they had better have a good incentive or they're wasting their time  i'm afraid.

[RugbyRover]

I feel exactly the same and after 20 seasons as a season ticket holder I’ve decided I’ve had enough. I just don’t enjoy going to games anymore. The football is boring at best. Lining up with 7 or 8 defensive minded players every game has done it for me. I should have been proper up for todays Yorkshire Derby but It felt like a chore going.

Did anyone listen to DS comments after the game. He said going 4-4-2 in the last 8 mins made no difference to our attacking output. Felt like a dig at the supporters who have been calling for him to ditch the 5 at the back.

Maxwell was on the Ifollow commentary and he said that they had worked on the 442 but only on the out of possession side of things, not how to play it offensively. So not surprising that it didn't effect how we played.

[Padge_DRFC]

I spent most of yesterday's game berating the whole team which i never thought in a million years would do. I now expect a slow start with us not being able to string 3 passes together, Hurst to nesh every tackle , even move away from their player with the ball instead of challenging , the poor throw in's , Mitchells slow poor kicking and distribution, but i never thought i would see Tommy Rowe being out run , out muscled and out thought in a league 2 game.
I am now dreading the call from the Ticket office asking why i haven't renewed , they had better have a good incentive or they're wasting their time  i'm afraid.

Rowe sadly is looking a shadow of the player he used to be. Suppose being shoved to CB doesn't help. His best position for me would RCF in this set up

[steve@dcfd]

Mr Blunt said we would Bounce Back Decisively. He must have thought we had the squad to do it.  Yet our performances on the pitch are anything but decisive. We play slow ponderous and boring football and hardly ever look like scoring. The playoffs are the minimum this season now it seems.
We are expecting to get better players in the summer that won’t happen IMO. If by a miracle we do get promoted the owners will have nightmares on players we will have to sign to keep in league one.
The performances on the pitch are switching supporters and friends off.

[Sammy Chung was King]

Every season that goes by I think the budget for players is getting smaller. What we have has been wasted. I say the budget is getting smaller because the quality of players we get and market we are shopping in is getting more and more restricted. We are not even competing with sides in our own league for free transfers. We get ones nobody else is interested in.

[Lesonthewest]

Every season that goes by I think the budget for players is getting smaller. What we have has been wasted. I say the budget is getting smaller because the quality of players we get and market we are shopping in is getting more and more restricted. We are not even competing with sides in our own league for free transfers. We get ones nobody else is interested in.

Yes & with the attendances we get, for a league 2 side, is criminal.

[Chris Black come back]

Along with Mansfield we are tied as 6th largest attendances in League Two, yet I don’t think other than a weekend in August we have been as high as 6th place all season. We are currently 12th. It’s not great really is it.

[Michael Shaw]

Tyke19062, I always expect Barnsley to be floating around the middle/bottom of the Championship. and if they ever come down go straight back up. I also expect Rovers to be around or in the League One playoffs, and if we go up don't easily stay there. But for Rovers to be middle of League Two is a disappointment no matter what the excuse from the club.

[The Red Baron]

We need to give DS time it’s similar to when SOD was transforming the time, however he did it whilst we were on an upward trend.
Think he needs more of his own players in to achieve success - work in progress

You're not going to get players like Stock, Wellens, Copps in League Two. I would say Mr Schofield will keep his job this season but if we start next season poorly, he'll be gone.

[normal rules]

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”

[Canadian Rover]

We need to give DS time it’s similar to when SOD was transforming the time, however he did it whilst we were on an upward trend.
Think he needs more of his own players in to achieve success - work in progress

You're not going to get players like Stock, Wellens, Copps in League Two. I would say Mr Schofield will keep his job this season but if we start next season poorly, he'll be gone.

And we'll rebuild again with our identity, DNA etc..

[steve@dcfd]

We need to give DS time it’s similar to when SOD was transforming the time, however he did it whilst we were on an upward trend.
Think he needs more of his own players in to achieve success - work in progress

You're not going to get players like Stock, Wellens, Copps in League Two. I would say Mr Schofield will keep his job this season but if we start next season poorly, he'll be gone.

No we are not going to get players of that level I agree. So this summer Copps and Schofield should not be accepting second or third best. They should have a backbone if they can’t get the players they want with our budget, they should say so. Don’t bring a player just for the sake of it.

[Usher down the wing.]

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”

That’s twice you’ve used that quote in two different threads. It’s insane.

[Sammy Chung was King]

The manager has to be given time, unless performances show no sign of improvement over a length of time. He needs a reliable spine to the side that we lack.

[Alan Southstand]

We can’t afford a ‘reliable spine’. If we could, we’d have had one by now!

[roversdude]

I wasn’t suggesting we would get a Stock or Wellens but he needs chance to get his own L2 players that can comprehend how he wants to play

[monkeytennis]

I’m not sure L2 has a massive stock of players who are capable of playing how DS wants to play

[sedwardsdrfc]

We can’t afford a ‘reliable spine’. If we could, we’d have had one by now!

The 11 put out on Saturday is decent imo with a decent spine. Made to look worse by playing a way they can’t.

[Plumbster]

Just out of interest do any other teams play the same formation as DS- it would be good to see what it is supposed to look like.  I do share the view that it is very hard to watch atm but I hope that all the doubters keep the faith and renew- it’s times like these when the club really need us if we are going to turn round this painful decline.

[ForsolongaRover]

To Schofield, I think we all know that first and foremost football is a process and as I’ve said before, he is not flexible in his approach. Processes work well when they are not disturbed, but football is a game where competition for the ball is a constant interference with the process. I know this is an oversimplification and he and anyone in any planning system obviously recognises that a counter-force influences success. However the more you believe what you advocate will succeed, the less willing you are likely to adapt.

The workman blaming his “tools” is an old adage and every manager will do better with better players, but surely the objective in hiring a competent leader is that he makes better use of his assets. McSheffery would probably have done better with better players and without the obfuscation of coach-speak.

In any case, Schofield was considered to be an improvement on his predecessor and having now actually brought in players of his own choice we should be seeing improved results. But are we?

[Barmby Rover]

How long is it since we had any sense of excitement when we signed a player? Or really looked forward to a rival that we played because we knew we could beat them? It must be at least 4-5 seasons ago,

[Sammy Chung was King]

A long time ago, since being self sustaining came into play.

[drfchound]

How long is it since we had any sense of excitement when we signed a player? Or really looked forward to a rival that we played because we knew we could beat them? It must be at least 4-5 seasons ago,

“How long is it since we had any sense of excitement when we signed a player”.
I could ask how long since we had much excitement at a game.
On Saturday I only got on the edge of my seat once, when Miller got in behind the right back and played the ball across goal to Hurst who just couldn’t stretch far enough to make a good contact with his shot.
Other than that it was mind numbingly boring when we had the ball.
It is the same most weeks, hardly any occasions when we look likely to get into a scoring situation.

[Lesonthewest]

How long is it since we had any sense of excitement when we signed a player? Or really looked forward to a rival that we played because we knew we could beat them? It must be at least 4-5 seasons ago,

Absolutely, makes you wonder when it will end, it's certainly testing us to the limit that's for sure.

[oggycompton]

I'm afraid Schofield is a myth, the football is more boring that under McSheffrey. 5 at the back and one up top and not a guy anywhere within 40 yards of him. Really great to watch.

By the way, has anyone else noticed that we struggle toward the end of the game lately and even he admits so? Its like he mucks up the half time team talk or his substitutions don't work.

Its such a weird feeling driving to games now, excitement is long gone. Just give it a go for gods sake, I'd rather finish mid-table losing the odd game 4-3 than see a 0-1, 0-0 game every time I go the games

[Branton Red]

Last 4 home games. Hartlepool, Barrow, Tranmere, Bradford.

4 games. 360 plus minutes. In the cold. In perpetual boredom. Regardless of result.

I just do not enjoy watching Rovers at the moment.

I'm going to really struggle to motivate myself to go to the Harrogate game Tuesday week. After work. In the cold.

I'm struggling to justify purchasing a season ticket for next season. Having had a season ticket for nearly 20 years.

It's not because of results. Or that we're in League 2. Or the club's on-field demise over the last 2 years.

It's due to, what I see as, utterly boring, defensive, ineffective football.

I would just like to see my team looking to attack, create chances and score goals. Even if the players aren't particularly good. Even if they fall short results wise. Is that asking too much?!

20 odd likes on my OP with several others having the same/similar opinion in their replies.

Over 2,300 views of this thread (yes I know this includes multiple views by the same person)

Not one single person has replied in disagreement to say that they are enjoying Rovers play at the moment.

Not one.

How telling.

[tyke1962]

Tyke19062, I always expect Barnsley to be floating around the middle/bottom of the Championship. and if they ever come down go straight back up. I also expect Rovers to be around or in the League One playoffs, and if we go up don't easily stay there. But for Rovers to be middle of League Two is a disappointment no matter what the excuse from the club.

I agree that the middle of league two is unacceptable Michael for Rovers and you are underperforming massively at the moment .

Tough gig league one this season and it is definitely harder than the last time we were down at this level in my opinion .

We've lost only 3 games since the beginning of October and it's only good enough for the last play off spot .

We are on a run at the moment having taken 19 points out of the last 21 and only gone up one place and that's only because we beat the team directly above us last Saturday .

Not saying Rovers can't compete at the top end of league one but it's definitely getting more difficult as the championship these days relegates some bloody big clubs and far bigger ones than they used to be when we've managed to get back to the championship .

[Lesonthewest]

Don't think for one minute I don't get as pyssed off as you lads .

Last season was difficult to say the least , the worst championship campaign in my lifetime , we really were horrendous , so out of our depth it was ridiculous .

Thing is if you stick with it the good times feel even better because you've earned it .

In any case since when was anything ever guaranteed with Rovers and Barnsley ?

I didn't first go through those turnstiles with my old man in 1967 thinking I was going to be supporting a winning machine all my life .

At least I got that right .

With respect Tyke, & I'm not doubting for one second you get as pi--ed off as us, what I would doubt is that you haven't witnessed such mind numbingly boring, gutless, aimless, & at times unacceptable hopeless football we have had to endure over the last twelve months or so. If you ever did, you have my utmost sympathy! In my 50 odd years of following Rovers, I have never felt so detached from the club. I don’t doubt there are good people at the club trying to put things right, but we are miles & miles away of what we were just a few years ago.

[Sammy Chung was King]

The first eleven is good enough to be playoffs at the least. We have underachieved massively. This is not a good league and it’s been made harder than it needed to be.

[Padge_DRFC]

We're not good enough up top to go up. We have a keeper who pulls of worldies and the next minute rushes off his line or let's the ball through his hands.

Now we have a settled defence we look okay there but that won't be enough sadly. Were way of being a promotion side, however we're way off being relegation fodder like some have said. 12th is about right