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Petche

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #90 on March 04, 2023, 07:40:44 pm by Petche »
People have got to take the opposition into account

The same people who weee saying we would get thumped are now complaining at a draw.
It’s crackers

"Take the opposition into account"
We were 2 divisions apart last season and now we've got to be grateful for a point ffs!!

Wrexham and notts county are 2 leagues below forest green at the minute
But they will be finishing next season above them

The point being is how we appear to have adjusted our expectations in such a short time frame.



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Armthorpe mickler

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #91 on March 04, 2023, 07:45:02 pm by Armthorpe mickler »
Could do with 3 wins to stand still now.A point is a very good result today but we could have done with the win to get nearer the play offs.

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #92 on March 04, 2023, 07:53:06 pm by big fat yorkshire pudding »
It was a solid away performance today that lacked a cutting edge going forwards. There were chances to win the game that we couldn't turn in to a final ball and the attacking players made wrong decisions.

But defensively it's definitely improved and Anderson was back to his best today, he won everything.

Solid but much work to do offensively.  The last two games we've played teams above us and neither were particularly good but we haven't created a whole lot at all in either game.

We're better than 13th but not a top 7 side, not attacking how we are.

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #93 on March 04, 2023, 07:57:44 pm by Arsenal Of The North »
It was a solid away performance today that lacked a cutting edge going forwards. There were chances to win the game that we couldn't turn in to a final ball and the attacking players made wrong decisions.

But defensively it's definitely improved and Anderson was back to his best today, he won everything.

Solid but much work to do offensively.  The last two games we've played teams above us and neither were particularly good but we haven't created a whole lot at all in either game.

We're better than 13th but not a top 7 side, not attacking how we are.

Slightly disagree with the Anderson won everything, though we were very poor first half challenging for any first balls and lost probably 90% of them, 2nd half Anderson I don’t think put a foot wrong and made a vital goal line clearance from their corner.

Good away point but worrying about the attacking threat we don’t seem to pose!

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #94 on March 04, 2023, 08:04:32 pm by ncRover »
I'm at a bit of a loss as to the roles/responsibilities of Hurst and Molyneux.

They play like 2 number 10s and press high, but what's the use in pressing high without tracking back? Unless they are pure attacking player roles akin to the likes of Salah, Saka and Grealish. If that's the case we need to get them the ball quicker and they need to vastly improve their output.

If they are wide midfielders then the roles they play are ineffective defensively and offensively in equal measure.

Two very talented players that I don't really think we or they know what they are supposed to be doing.

We need 2 new attackers for the first XI in the summer. Hurst is brilliant but the others don’t compliment him or each other at all.

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #95 on March 04, 2023, 08:12:41 pm by Monkcaster_Rover »
Jesus. That was a poor game of football. Points a point but my god it wasn't enthralling.

ncRover

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #96 on March 04, 2023, 08:19:40 pm by ncRover »
The press was great today and we nearly caught them out a few times. Lucky not to lose but they worked hard for it.

Anderson is so much better in the middle of the 3. Wootton would have completely bullied our defence otherwise. He’s proved me wrong about not being worth a new contract.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2023, 08:22:12 pm by ncRover »

Campsall rover

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #97 on March 04, 2023, 08:22:13 pm by Campsall rover »
It was a solid away performance today that lacked a cutting edge going forwards. There were chances to win the game that we couldn't turn in to a final ball and the attacking players made wrong decisions.

But defensively it's definitely improved and Anderson was back to his best today, he won everything.

Solid but much work to do offensively.  The last two games we've played teams above us and neither were particularly good but we haven't created a whole lot at all in either game.

We're better than 13th but not a top 7 side, not attacking how we are.
A good summary.
Agree Anderson was outstanding. Mitchell made 2 outstanding saves once again and would be second choice. Lakin 3rd choice.

“We are not a top 7 side” well it’s where we finish after 46 games that counts.  We are not top 7 after 33 games because the league table does not lie. Let’s see where we are at end of March and we will know much more whether top 7 is realistic.
We have 4 games which we simply have to win. Harrogate H, Wimbledon H, & Crawley A, Northampton H & if we get a draw at Salford then would be in a very good position going into the last 8 games and would have a serious chance of top 7
That’s 13 points from those 5 games. A tall order. I would take 11 points but think that’s the minimum we will need to give us a chance.



I would actually swap the 3 points with Northampton with 3 points against Salford as I think they are the team we have the best chance of catching in the current top 7.

One game at a time and it has to be a win v Harrogate Town on Tuesday.

StocksArmy

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #98 on March 04, 2023, 08:25:05 pm by StocksArmy »
A performance that can not and should not be celebrated. An abject performance in every sense of the word. Back 3 very good, the rest would send a glass eye to sleep.

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #99 on March 04, 2023, 08:31:49 pm by ncRover »
A performance that can not and should not be celebrated. An abject performance in every sense of the word. Back 3 very good, the rest would send a glass eye to sleep.

No nothing special. But I don’t think anyone had a bad game except Molyneux to be fair.

dickos1

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #100 on March 04, 2023, 08:40:21 pm by dickos1 »
That’s a performance we need to see more of away from home.
We won the league one title not too long ago playing like that every week

Padge_DRFC

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #101 on March 04, 2023, 08:42:09 pm by Padge_DRFC »
Really good without the ball. Absolutely dreadful with it. Took some part timers today. Honest opinion was dreadful first half. Slightly grew into it second half yet awful in the final third.

dickos1

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #102 on March 04, 2023, 08:45:35 pm by dickos1 »
I agree we were excellent without the ball, that’s the most organised we’ve looked for a very long time

StocksArmy

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #103 on March 04, 2023, 08:50:54 pm by StocksArmy »
That’s a performance we need to see more of away from home.
We won the league one title not too long ago playing like that every week

No we didnt. We were disgusting to play against. Potent in both boxes and a team crammed with character who demanded from one another. 9 times out of 10 in every game we get beat playing like that.

mushRTID

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #104 on March 04, 2023, 08:53:06 pm by mushRTID »
I agree we were excellent without the ball, that’s the most organised we’ve looked for a very long time

It’s also the most clueless we’ve looked in a long time going forwards. We have to find a balance.

You are making it sound like we dug in admirably and gritted it out. We didn’t, they were shite too.

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #105 on March 04, 2023, 09:17:40 pm by Chris Black come back »
To be fair to Schofield, he is now managing to enforce his style on the squad. There is now a structure and a cohesion, it is just heavily weighted towards solidity and caution. It is no coincidence we are now starting to turn in more clean sheets as he gets the team playing the way he wants. You have to hope though that this is a phase in the rebuilding and at some point we will have some attacking intent.

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #106 on March 04, 2023, 09:22:30 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
They do always say start from the back. Like to see us go for it more but we probably don’t have the players to do that.

We remind me a bit of Newcastle under Bruce or Benitez where they played 541 and just stunk the place out every game scraping together enough points to stay up.

Need to believe in ourselves and be less defensive. We won’t go up this or next year if we’re too scared to have a go at anyone. it’s not like we’re in a top division where staying up is our ambition.

Campsall rover

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #107 on March 04, 2023, 09:29:38 pm by Campsall rover »
A performance that can not and should not be celebrated. An abject performance in every sense of the word. Back 3 very good, the rest would send a glass eye to sleep.
If you think that was bad then what was Barrow, Hartlepool, Carlisle & Tranmere away performances.
We looked well organised today. Hard to beat.

Yes we need to improve on our offensive play. Not enough chances created, shots on goal agree but our overall play was pretty good. Work rate of all the players could not be questioned and defensively we looked much improved on what we were a few weeks ago.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2023, 09:44:02 pm by Campsall rover »

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #108 on March 04, 2023, 09:36:47 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
That’s a performance we need to see more of away from home.
We won the league one title not too long ago playing like that every week

Err. With James Coppinger, Chris Brown, Billy Paynter, Iain Hume and David Cotterill to hurt the opposition.

The point was great, but we could still be playing until the next Transpennine train leaves Stockport on time without scoring, based on that performance.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2023, 09:39:21 pm by BillyStubbsTears »

dickos1

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #109 on March 04, 2023, 10:10:36 pm by dickos1 »
That’s a performance we need to see more of away from home.
We won the league one title not too long ago playing like that every week

Err. With James Coppinger, Chris Brown, Billy Paynter, Iain Hume and David Cotterill to hurt the opposition.

The point was great, but we could still be playing until the next Transpennine train leaves Stockport on time without scoring, based on that performance.

Biggins had a gilt-edged chance that 9 times out of 10 he’d put away.

We had those players but that’s not why we were successful, we stunk the place out week after week but ground out results.
Games we got battered in but came away with a draw or snuck a win
« Last Edit: March 05, 2023, 09:28:16 am by dickos1 »

StocksArmy

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #110 on March 04, 2023, 10:18:44 pm by StocksArmy »
A performance that can not and should not be celebrated. An abject performance in every sense of the word. Back 3 very good, the rest would send a glass eye to sleep.
If you think that was bad then what was Barrow, Hartlepool, Carlisle & Tranmere away performances.
We looked well organised today. Hard to beat.

Yes we need to improve on our offensive play. Not enough chances created, shots on goal agree but our overall play was pretty good. Work rate of all the players could not be questioned and defensively we looked much improved on what we were a few weeks ago.

I dont think we should be singling out performances on this sh!tshow of a season should we. I don't even think you have picked out the worst ones in there however, our overall play definitely was not good so we shall agree to disagree on that one. We worked hard as we do in every game and today defended really well and still should have been well beaten by half time. Its not a personal attack on the team, i dont enjoy picking apart performances week after week but the fact is we are horrific when it comes down to entertainment value. Had we been in or around the automatic promotion places or the playoffs it would have felt like a better point. As we are listening to players and manager speak of getting in the playoffs in every pre match interview its hard to stomach not being able to string 2 passes together.

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #111 on March 04, 2023, 10:40:44 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
That’s a performance we need to see more of away from home.
We won the league one title not too long ago playing like that every week

Err. With James Coppinger, Chris Brown, Billy Paynter, Iain Hume and David Cotterill to hurt the opposition.

The point was great, but we could still be playing until the next Transpennine train leaves Stockport on time without scoring, based on that performance.

Biggins had a guilt edge chance that 9 times out of 10 he’d put away.

We had those players but that’s not why we were successful, we stunk the place out week after week but ground out results.
Games we got battered in but came away with a draw or snuck a win

Biggins was 16 yards out, had a defender blocking half the goal and a perfectly positioned keeper. The ball is coming across him making it hard to combine power and accurate placement. With a bit of luck he might score that twice in ten. You're being very silly saying that is a 9 in 10 chance.

dickos1

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #112 on March 04, 2023, 10:55:16 pm by dickos1 »
I might have been a better player than u billy, but a professional footballer is scoring that a lot more than 2 times out of ten

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #113 on March 05, 2023, 02:33:39 am by Pliskin »
Glad to have come away with a point. On another day we could've lost comfortably with that sort of performance. Don't get me wrong, we battled and dug in, can't really fault that aspect. But they had some good chances, pretty much exclusively from crosses. None of them went in, so we got a bit of fortune. It's just bizarre how we seem to just invite crosses into the box despite us not being very good at defending them (even with 3 central defenders).

We are absolutely clueless going forwards. Whenever we have an opportunity to create some danger nobody knows what to do. No urgency, no busting a gut to create options. And we always revert to backwards, sideways shite before we inevitably get pressured and have to boot it away. Infuriating to watch.

Anderson looks like he's slowly getting back to his best though. So there's a positive.

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #114 on March 05, 2023, 07:27:31 am by colincramb »
Crikey. Some people on here need to give their heads a wobble. In the past 2 games we have created virtually zero chances. Today would have been a good point typically if we had been near the top of the league. But in the context of where we are it was just an awful game of football. We literally pose zero attacking threat against the better sides.

sedwardsdrfc

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« Reply #115 on March 05, 2023, 08:16:32 am by sedwardsdrfc »
Does show that fans expectations have hit a low. The point is ok but it sounds like it was more lucky/hanging on performance where we had zero chance of actually winning the game. Not a professional away performance where we gave as good as we got.

This is in L2 not the championship or top end L1. We’ve a right to be disappointed. We were told the club would bounce back decisively against that aim we’ve failed miserably for the 2nd season running

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #116 on March 05, 2023, 08:28:38 am by Silkscarf »
That’s a performance we need to see more of away from home.
We won the league one title not too long ago playing like that every week

Err. With James Coppinger, Chris Brown, Billy Paynter, Iain Hume and David Cotterill to hurt the opposition.

The point was great, but we could still be playing until the next Transpennine train leaves Stockport on time without scoring, based on that performance.

Biggins had a guilt edge chance that 9 times out of 10 he’d put away.

We had those players but that’s not why we were successful, we stunk the place out week after week but ground out results.
Games we got battered in but came away with a draw or snuck a win


‘Guilt edge chance’ - I like that. The player knows he should have scored and feels a bit ashamed, holds up both hands in apology, guilty as charged M’lud.

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #117 on March 05, 2023, 09:55:50 am by steve@dcfd »
That’s a performance we need to see more of away from home.
We won the league one title not too long ago playing like that every week

We won league one title because we won 15 games away from home and lost 4 games. Our away record was better than our home record.

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« Reply #118 on March 05, 2023, 10:02:12 am by Lesonthewest »
Does show that fans expectations have hit a low. The point is ok but it sounds like it was more lucky/hanging on performance where we had zero chance of actually winning the game. Not a professional away performance where we gave as good as we got.

This is in L2 not the championship or top end L1. We’ve a right to be disappointed. We were told the club would bounce back decisively against that aim we’ve failed miserably for the 2nd season running

Post of the week for me.

keith79

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Re: Let's talk about the Stockport County game
« Reply #119 on March 05, 2023, 11:30:26 am by keith79 »
Happy with the point but awful performance.

 

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