An improvement

[Filo]

It was not hard to improve from Tuesday, good that we won, but we really should be putting teams as bad as them to the sword

[Padge_DRFC]

I bet their forum will be berating how they shouldn't be losing to teams like us if they watched that today

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Positive we were better, negative that we didn't really finish them off.

But tactically our shape was better and players were closer to each other so that's positive.  Molyneux was much better close to miller I thought.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Marginally better. We still huffed and puffed against a lower mid table Div 4 side and could well have conceded a couple of times late on.

Better than Tuesday certainly, but there's miles still to go.

[donnievic]

They were piss poor though and up there Crawley and ourselfs with the worse team we havecseem this season

[eastender]

They were piss poor though and up there Crawley and ourselfs with the worse team we havecseem this season

They were a lot worse than Harrogate , and Crawley have just Beaten Harrogate 3-1. Not sure what that say's about us really.

[karldew]

Positive we were better, negative that we didn't really finish them off.

But tactically our shape was better and players were closer to each other so that's positive.  Molyneux was much better close to miller I thought.

I thought Molly was pretty poor tbf. How he gets picked every week I don’t know.

[BillyStubbsTears]

They were piss poor though and up there Crawley and ourselfs with the worse team we havecseem this season

They were a lot worse than Harrogate , and Crawley have just Beaten Harrogate 3-1. Not sure what that say's about us really.

I think it says that's roughly our standard. Take out our massive over-performance in terms of points at the start of the season and we are in a group of teams around 15th-20th who will beat each other some weeks and lose other weeks.

[Retdon1]

Watched it on I follow on my tablet. We played okay got 25 mins in the first half. They really should have made it 2-2 at the end

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Positive we were better, negative that we didn't really finish them off.

But tactically our shape was better and players were closer to each other so that's positive.  Molyneux was much better close to miller I thought.

Made a big difference today. Molyneux far more involved than when he stays out on the flank. Seemed to track and stay close to Miller and often won headrers from goalkicks etc.

Seaman had one of the best games he's had, doing the basics much better, making forward runs rather than cutting back towards goal.

Close and Biggins were much better pressing and turning the ball over quite often.

I still don't like the dropping too deep but we managed to keep sufficient possession when it mattered.

[Campsall rover]

They were piss poor though and up there Crawley and ourselfs with the worse team we havecseem this season

They were a lot worse than Harrogate , and Crawley have just Beaten Harrogate 3-1. Not sure what that say's about us really.

I think it says that's roughly our standard. Take out our massive over-performance in terms of points at the start of the season and we are in a group of teams around 15th-20th who will beat each other some weeks and lose other weeks.

But we are not 15th to 20th are we. 
We are 11th this eve.
If we win at Salford next Saturday then we are still in with a chance of top 7
Yes we will have to show consistency and yes we will need to win 7 of our last 11 with possibly 2 draws thrown in so I agree it’s unlikely.
But we are better than 15th to 20th and the league table proves that as it doesn’t lie after 35 games.

[scawsby steve]

They were piss poor though and up there Crawley and ourselfs with the worse team we havecseem this season

They were a lot worse than Harrogate , and Crawley have just Beaten Harrogate 3-1. Not sure what that say's about us really.

I think it says that's roughly our standard. Take out our massive over-performance in terms of points at the start of the season and we are in a group of teams around 15th-20th who will beat each other some weeks and lose other weeks.

But we are not 15th to 20th are we. 
We are 11th this eve.
If we win at Salford next Saturday then we are still in with a chance of top 7
Yes we will have to show consistency and yes we will need to win 7 of our last 11 with possibly 2 draws thrown in so I agree it’s unlikely.
But we are better than 15th to 20th and the league table proves that as it doesn’t lie after 35 games.

Camps, in those early games that BST mentioned, we had Lee Tomlin. There's no-one in this current team with the slightest modicum of the kind of creativity he gave us.

[dickos1]

I don’t think we’ve been 15th all season but billy knows best

[BillyStubbsTears]

They were piss poor though and up there Crawley and ourselfs with the worse team we havecseem this season

They were a lot worse than Harrogate , and Crawley have just Beaten Harrogate 3-1. Not sure what that say's about us really.

I think it says that's roughly our standard. Take out our massive over-performance in terms of points at the start of the season and we are in a group of teams around 15th-20th who will beat each other some weeks and lose other weeks.

But we are not 15th to 20th are we. 
We are 11th this eve.
If we win at Salford next Saturday then we are still in with a chance of top 7
Yes we will have to show consistency and yes we will need to win 7 of our last 11 with possibly 2 draws thrown in so I agree it’s unlikely.
But we are better than 15th to 20th and the league table proves that as it doesn’t lie after 35 games.

Yes.

Because we got 14 points from the first 6 games which nobody thinks was a fair reflection of the underlying quality of our squad. Since then we've picked up 36 points from 29 games. 1.24 PPG which is roughly what Crewe in 17th place have averaged over the season.

[Campsall rover]

They were piss poor though and up there Crawley and ourselfs with the worse team we havecseem this season

They were a lot worse than Harrogate , and Crawley have just Beaten Harrogate 3-1. Not sure what that say's about us really.

I think it says that's roughly our standard. Take out our massive over-performance in terms of points at the start of the season and we are in a group of teams around 15th-20th who will beat each other some weeks and lose other weeks.

But we are not 15th to 20th are we. 
We are 11th this eve.
If we win at Salford next Saturday then we are still in with a chance of top 7
Yes we will have to show consistency and yes we will need to win 7 of our last 11 with possibly 2 draws thrown in so I agree it’s unlikely.
But we are better than 15th to 20th and the league table proves that as it doesn’t lie after 35 games.

Camps, in those early games that BST mentioned, we had Lee Tomlin. There's no-one in this current team with the slightest modicum of the kind of creativity he gave us.

Sorry SS what has Lee Tomlin got to do with my reply to BST?

[Chris Black come back]

We’re not very good. I think the table is a pretty fair reflection of how we have performed. Largely very average with some shocking results and a smattering of decent results. I think of those above us we have beaten two of them. We’re also rans, which is why we are outside the play offs in the lowest professional tier in the English game.

[dickos1]

They were piss poor though and up there Crawley and ourselfs with the worse team we havecseem this season

They were a lot worse than Harrogate , and Crawley have just Beaten Harrogate 3-1. Not sure what that say's about us really.

I think it says that's roughly our standard. Take out our massive over-performance in terms of points at the start of the season and we are in a group of teams around 15th-20th who will beat each other some weeks and lose other weeks.

But we are not 15th to 20th are we. 
We are 11th this eve.
If we win at Salford next Saturday then we are still in with a chance of top 7
Yes we will have to show consistency and yes we will need to win 7 of our last 11 with possibly 2 draws thrown in so I agree it’s unlikely.
But we are better than 15th to 20th and the league table proves that as it doesn’t lie after 35 games.

Camps, in those early games that BST mentioned, we had Lee Tomlin. There's no-one in this current team with the slightest modicum of the kind of creativity he gave us.

Other than the Stockport game and winning a pen at Northampton, Tomlin had very little impact in those games

[scawsby steve]

They were piss poor though and up there Crawley and ourselfs with the worse team we havecseem this season

They were a lot worse than Harrogate , and Crawley have just Beaten Harrogate 3-1. Not sure what that say's about us really.

I think it says that's roughly our standard. Take out our massive over-performance in terms of points at the start of the season and we are in a group of teams around 15th-20th who will beat each other some weeks and lose other weeks.

But we are not 15th to 20th are we. 
We are 11th this eve.
If we win at Salford next Saturday then we are still in with a chance of top 7
Yes we will have to show consistency and yes we will need to win 7 of our last 11 with possibly 2 draws thrown in so I agree it’s unlikely.
But we are better than 15th to 20th and the league table proves that as it doesn’t lie after 35 games.

Camps, in those early games that BST mentioned, we had Lee Tomlin. There's no-one in this current team with the slightest modicum of the kind of creativity he gave us.

Sorry SS what has Lee Tomlin got to do with my reply to BST?

Because without him we probably wouldn't have got the early points that BST mentioned, and would be lower in the league than we are.

We're a very mediocre League 2 team.

[dickos1]

They were piss poor though and up there Crawley and ourselfs with the worse team we havecseem this season

They were a lot worse than Harrogate , and Crawley have just Beaten Harrogate 3-1. Not sure what that say's about us really.

I think it says that's roughly our standard. Take out our massive over-performance in terms of points at the start of the season and we are in a group of teams around 15th-20th who will beat each other some weeks and lose other weeks.

But we are not 15th to 20th are we. 
We are 11th this eve.
If we win at Salford next Saturday then we are still in with a chance of top 7
Yes we will have to show consistency and yes we will need to win 7 of our last 11 with possibly 2 draws thrown in so I agree it’s unlikely.
But we are better than 15th to 20th and the league table proves that as it doesn’t lie after 35 games.

Yes.

Because we got 14 points from the first 6 games which nobody thinks was a fair reflection of the underlying quality of our squad. Since then we've picked up 36 points from 29 games. 1.24 PPG which is roughly what Crewe in 17th place have averaged over the season.

It’s baffling why people disregard our early season form to fit their agenda.
Bradford was a great performance with ten men, Sutton we were lucky, all the other games in rhag spell we played well and deserved the points we got

[GazLaz]

We created more vs Harrogate!

[dickos1]

They were piss poor though and up there Crawley and ourselfs with the worse team we havecseem this season

They were a lot worse than Harrogate , and Crawley have just Beaten Harrogate 3-1. Not sure what that say's about us really.

I think it says that's roughly our standard. Take out our massive over-performance in terms of points at the start of the season and we are in a group of teams around 15th-20th who will beat each other some weeks and lose other weeks.

But we are not 15th to 20th are we. 
We are 11th this eve.
If we win at Salford next Saturday then we are still in with a chance of top 7
Yes we will have to show consistency and yes we will need to win 7 of our last 11 with possibly 2 draws thrown in so I agree it’s unlikely.
But we are better than 15th to 20th and the league table proves that as it doesn’t lie after 35 games.

Camps, in those early games that BST mentioned, we had Lee Tomlin. There's no-one in this current team with the slightest modicum of the kind of creativity he gave us.

Sorry SS what has Lee Tomlin got to do with my reply to BST?

Because without him we probably wouldn't have got the early points that BST mentioned, and would be lower in the league than we are.

We're a very mediocre League 2 team.

Utter nonsense

[scawsby steve]

They were piss poor though and up there Crawley and ourselfs with the worse team we havecseem this season

They were a lot worse than Harrogate , and Crawley have just Beaten Harrogate 3-1. Not sure what that say's about us really.

I think it says that's roughly our standard. Take out our massive over-performance in terms of points at the start of the season and we are in a group of teams around 15th-20th who will beat each other some weeks and lose other weeks.

But we are not 15th to 20th are we. 
We are 11th this eve.
If we win at Salford next Saturday then we are still in with a chance of top 7
Yes we will have to show consistency and yes we will need to win 7 of our last 11 with possibly 2 draws thrown in so I agree it’s unlikely.
But we are better than 15th to 20th and the league table proves that as it doesn’t lie after 35 games.

Camps, in those early games that BST mentioned, we had Lee Tomlin. There's no-one in this current team with the slightest modicum of the kind of creativity he gave us.

Other than the Stockport game and winning a pen at Northampton, Tomlin had very little impact in those games

You weren't at the Salford game then? Go back and look at the second goal.

There's no-one in this team that can split a defence like that.

[Campsall rover]

They were piss poor though and up there Crawley and ourselfs with the worse team we havecseem this season

They were a lot worse than Harrogate , and Crawley have just Beaten Harrogate 3-1. Not sure what that say's about us really.

I think it says that's roughly our standard. Take out our massive over-performance in terms of points at the start of the season and we are in a group of teams around 15th-20th who will beat each other some weeks and lose other weeks.

But we are not 15th to 20th are we. 
We are 11th this eve.
If we win at Salford next Saturday then we are still in with a chance of top 7
Yes we will have to show consistency and yes we will need to win 7 of our last 11 with possibly 2 draws thrown in so I agree it’s unlikely.
But we are better than 15th to 20th and the league table proves that as it doesn’t lie after 35 games.

Yes.

Because we got 14 points from the first 6 games which nobody thinks was a fair reflection of the underlying quality of our squad. Since then we've picked up 36 points from 29 games. 1.24 PPG which is roughly what Crewe in 17th place have averaged over the season.

So don’t those 1st 6 games count?
Every team in the league wins and draws games they should have lost and lose and draw games they should have won.
It doesn’t just apply to us.
So after 35 games we are we are because over all that’s where we should be based on results.
It’s only results that count at the end of the day.

I do believe though with a better manager, a more experienced one we would be in the top 7 minimum.
If Nigel Clough was our manager just as an example we would possibly be top 3 this season.
100% definitely top 7
This squad has ability. We have underperformed massively due to poor tactics.

[dickos1]

They were piss poor though and up there Crawley and ourselfs with the worse team we havecseem this season

They were a lot worse than Harrogate , and Crawley have just Beaten Harrogate 3-1. Not sure what that say's about us really.

I think it says that's roughly our standard. Take out our massive over-performance in terms of points at the start of the season and we are in a group of teams around 15th-20th who will beat each other some weeks and lose other weeks.

But we are not 15th to 20th are we. 
We are 11th this eve.
If we win at Salford next Saturday then we are still in with a chance of top 7
Yes we will have to show consistency and yes we will need to win 7 of our last 11 with possibly 2 draws thrown in so I agree it’s unlikely.
But we are better than 15th to 20th and the league table proves that as it doesn’t lie after 35 games.

Camps, in those early games that BST mentioned, we had Lee Tomlin. There's no-one in this current team with the slightest modicum of the kind of creativity he gave us.

Other than the Stockport game and winning a pen at Northampton, Tomlin had very little impact in those games

You weren't at the Salford game then? Go back and look at the second goal.

There's no-one in this team that can split a defence like that.

Of course there is,
Tomlin made very little difference in those early games,
He was brilliant against Stockport but other than that he offered very little

[Chris Black come back]

Every club has to cope with cycles. We are on the way down, largely due to terrible decisions over recruitment of managers and players, with some perhaps overly cautious financial management during and post-COVID. I suspect we will get back to League One in the next few seasons, but it’s hard to see this next season. Schofield seems a genuine guy but he will need to have a really superb transfer window this summer as the squad is an odd mix of signings, unified only by being very average. We have to come back to this, we have the resources and infrastructure to be in the play offs at least at this level, so it doesn’t take a managerial genius to get us there.

[BillyStubbsTears]

No agenda Dickos.

It's simply a fact that for the past 29 games we've been in 17th-place-in-the-table form.

I know you don't like that, but it is a fact.

It explains why we win some and lose some against the Wimbledons, the Crawleys and the Harrogates.

[ncRover]

Tomlin would only have played every other game due to injury, golf and suspension so it’s a pointless argument.

[Bessie Red]

We’re not very good. I think the table is a pretty fair reflection of how we have performed. Largely very average with some shocking results and a smattering of decent results. I think of those above us we have beaten two of them. We’re also rans, which is why we are outside the play offs in the lowest professional tier in the English game.

No you're wrong, out of the 10 teams above us we have beaten 6 of them, Carlisle, Salford, Stockport, Northampton, Sutton & Barrow.

[roversdude]

Still have big concerns about Brown, again today he seemed to amble back without a rush in him. Also with a few injuries we will struggle for quality as our replacements aren’t all up to it

[dickos1]

No agenda Dickos.

It's simply a fact that for the past 29 games we've been in 17th-place-in-the-table form.

I know you don't like that, but it is a fact.

It explains why we win some and lose some against the Wimbledons, the Crawleys and the Harrogates.

When you say we win some and lose some, out of the sides you’ve mentioned we’ve played 4 games and won 2, drawn 1 and lost 1.
7 points from 4 games, pretty good