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Filo

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Does the Chairman need to go?
« on March 19, 2023, 08:32:58 am by Filo »
In my opinion, YES, he’s the person that ultimatly gives the nod on player recruitment based on finance, he’s running the club down, it’s time to go, we just can’t stomach this decline anymore, it’s becoming terminal and possibly irreversible, something has to give, start at the top, and then recruit an experienced head coach, not a novice with 9 senior games on his CV



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Lesonthewest

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #1 on March 19, 2023, 08:36:42 am by Lesonthewest »
Yes, & a few others.

Bentley Bullet

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #2 on March 19, 2023, 08:37:40 am by Bentley Bullet »
I get the impression that Chairman David Blunt is safe as long as Terry Bramall is here.

Donny Exile in York

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #3 on March 19, 2023, 08:57:14 am by Donny Exile in York »
Yes. Should have gone a few years ago.

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #4 on March 19, 2023, 09:04:30 am by sedwardsdrfc »
Yes think he’s either heavily involved in the club’s decisions and therefore has shown plenty of incompetence or he’s just not doing anything and guilty of neglect. Either way it’s happened on his watch.


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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #5 on March 19, 2023, 11:08:03 am by German Rover »
Him and Gavin Baldwin, consistently make money for the club, they run the business side of things.

Coppinger and the previous managers run the football side of things.

The business men give the football men money to spend on teams, if they spend it disastrously like Richie Wellens did. You can't blame the chairman.

Blunt should stay while he's doing his job of making money.

Alot of rovers fans have it in for him because he's not john ryan, being interviewed on the radio and cheerleading.


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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #6 on March 19, 2023, 11:19:43 am by WantleyDragon »
Blunt is the chairman, who is ultimately responsible for the vision, culture and direction of the club.

He 100% needs to go !!!   

steve@dcfd

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #7 on March 19, 2023, 11:36:53 am by steve@dcfd »
The Chairman won’t go until Mr Bramell sells the club. They set on Copps as HOF to divert the football flack away from them.
Yet Mr Blunt said we would Bounce Back Decisively at the beginning of the season with what evidence did he have to make that statement. He kept on Rookie GMC then sacked him he appointed a Rookie HOF in Copps who recommended DS another Rookie manager.
Yes Mr Blunt and Mr Baldwin are keeping the club on a stable footing but is there sufficient resources to give our HOF and manager a chance to achieve his statement.
Looking what the decision making as done.  We’ve won 15 games and lost 16 scored 39 goals and conceded 49 GD of -10 the 17th worst in the league. This is not a team or squad or management structure or hierarchy that’s going to Bounce Back Decisively at any time. Decision making throughout the club as been poor.

Donny Exile in York

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #8 on March 19, 2023, 12:01:31 pm by Donny Exile in York »
Bounce back decisively is yet more spin akin to 5 year plan to the championship. For me Blunt is just Bramalls hatchet man doing his dirty work as Bramall.isant interest. From the horses mouth 'every day we can win in the community'.. were not fans of a charity we want to see consistent success on the pitch and have hope of good performances and achievements on the pitch too!
« Last Edit: March 19, 2023, 03:16:01 pm by Donny Exile in York »

keith79

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #9 on March 19, 2023, 12:26:01 pm by keith79 »
You all know he has shares in the club.

Sprotyrover

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #10 on March 19, 2023, 12:38:42 pm by Sprotyrover »
Him and Gavin Baldwin, consistently make money for the club, they run the business side of things.

Coppinger and the previous managers run the football side of things.

The business men give the football men money to spend on teams, if they spend it disastrously like Richie Wellens did. You can't blame the chairman.

Blunt should stay while he's doing his job of making money.

Alot of rovers fans have it in for him because he's not john ryan, being interviewed on the radio and cheerleading.


Gosh German you would think we were sitting in 12 th in the Championship not in the Bottom Division. Blunt by name Blunt by nature. I ward he got £28 million when Keepmoat was sold..same funds as John Ryan. Been looking at him on companies house, not much of a business mam several folded companies since he walked out of the Keepmoat company. I think Terry has given him this job due to their history. Keepmoat was Bramhall and Ogdens and did very nicely out of local social housing contracts (cough cough) it was sold to some folks for a vastly overrated price and due to the financial collapse the Social housing schemes dried up and it went down the pan.

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #11 on March 19, 2023, 01:17:36 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Him and Gavin Baldwin, consistently make money for the club, they run the business side of things.

Coppinger and the previous managers run the football side of things.

The business men give the football men money to spend on teams, if they spend it disastrously like Richie Wellens did. You can't blame the chairman.

Blunt should stay while he's doing his job of making money.

Alot of rovers fans have it in for him because he's not john ryan, being interviewed on the radio and cheerleading.



Well Copps only started as HoF this summer. So who was in charge of football then if not blunt?

Maybe that answers why we are here. Everyone sees there job as making money not getting 3pts

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #12 on March 19, 2023, 01:29:06 pm by Fal »
Him and Gavin Baldwin, consistently make money for the club, they run the business side of things.

Coppinger and the previous managers run the football side of things.

The business men give the football men money to spend on teams, if they spend it disastrously like Richie Wellens did. You can't blame the chairman.

Blunt should stay while he's doing his job of making money.

Alot of rovers fans have it in for him because he's not john ryan, being interviewed on the radio and cheerleading.



One day you will wake up, you're so deluded.

StocksArmy

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #13 on March 19, 2023, 02:21:39 pm by StocksArmy »
Him and Gavin Baldwin, consistently make money for the club, they run the business side of things.

Coppinger and the previous managers run the football side of things.

The business men give the football men money to spend on teams, if they spend it disastrously like Richie Wellens did. You can't blame the chairman.

Blunt should stay while he's doing his job of making money.

Alot of rovers fans have it in for him because he's not john ryan, being interviewed on the radio and cheerleading.



One day you will wake up, you're so deluded.

Making money doesnt make you brilliant at your job. We need bright, new ideas to reconnect the supporters with the club. If they run the business side of things then why are we so incompetent in the catering at the stadium? Paying gourmet prices for food you wouldnt serve to Hitler. The club as a whole is failing miserably top to bottom. There isnt just the chairman its literally every single on of them

Batleyred

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #14 on March 19, 2023, 03:13:37 pm by Batleyred »
Blunt to go for me, worrying thing is we've been told this will never happen white Terry is here. I appreciate the club Doncaster side but the football side is a shambles. Watching meet the owners told me a lot, Blunt did not want to be there.

EasyforDennis

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #15 on March 19, 2023, 03:20:30 pm by EasyforDennis »
Blunt is just a puppet with TB pulling the strings.

silent majority

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #16 on March 19, 2023, 03:42:29 pm by silent majority »
Blunt is just a puppet with TB pulling the strings.

That’s just made up nonsense.

EasyforDennis

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #17 on March 19, 2023, 03:43:52 pm by EasyforDennis »
Blunt is just a puppet with TB pulling the strings.

That’s just made up nonsense.

Really? Would you like to enlighten us why it is nonsense?

silent majority

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #18 on March 19, 2023, 03:46:13 pm by silent majority »
Blunt is just a puppet with TB pulling the strings.

That’s just made up nonsense.

Really? Would you like to enlighten us why it is nonsense?

You made the statement, you must have some knowledge of their relationship for you to say that, so tell us!

EasyforDennis

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #19 on March 19, 2023, 03:49:35 pm by EasyforDennis »
Blunt is just a puppet with TB pulling the strings.

That’s just made up nonsense.

Really? Would you like to enlighten us why it is nonsense?

You made the statement, you must have some knowledge of their relationship for you to say that, so tell us!

Blunt was TB's henchman at Keepmoat before they got involved with DRFC. He is still TB's henchman at DRFC.

Are you going to back up your statement as to why it is made up nonsense?

big fat yorkshire pudding

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #20 on March 19, 2023, 04:00:02 pm by big fat yorkshire pudding »
Regardless of any of it someone has to be accountable for the constant failings.  Just what are they going to do to fix things as more of the same just isn't going to work is it?

silent majority

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #21 on March 19, 2023, 04:01:10 pm by silent majority »
Blunt is just a puppet with TB pulling the strings.

That’s just made up nonsense.

Really? Would you like to enlighten us why it is nonsense?

You made the statement, you must have some knowledge of their relationship for you to say that, so tell us!

Blunt was TB's henchman at Keepmoat before they got involved with DRFC. He is still TB's henchman at DRFC.

Are you going to back up your statement as to why it is made up nonsense?

That’s it is it? That’s your reason for the statement you made? Care to define how DB was a henchman as opposed to a CEO?

Let me be clear here though, I’m not defending him, just stating that the relationship you describe is completely wrong and I can, hand on heart, support my position.

Chris Black come back

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #22 on March 19, 2023, 04:01:51 pm by Chris Black come back »
It’s no good looking at individual terrible results like yesterday. If you zoom out and look at the bigger picture, it actually looks even worse.

We’ve got a robust financial position we are told, great infrastructure, crowds even with our dire form which are among the better at this level and solid at the level above. Yet we have consistently been absolutely dreadful for the best part of three seasons now. And the longer time passes, the worse we look.

We’ve got all these advantages yet we are failing time and again. The trajectory is down, not up or even stabilising. We are on track to finish mid-table also rans in League Two. That’s absolutely damning.

silent majority

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #23 on March 19, 2023, 04:02:25 pm by silent majority »
Regardless of any of it someone has to be accountable for the constant failings.  Just what are they going to do to fix things as more of the same just isn't going to work is it?

The buck stops with the Chairman surely?

EasyforDennis

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #24 on March 19, 2023, 04:06:58 pm by EasyforDennis »
Regardless of any of it someone has to be accountable for the constant failings.  Just what are they going to do to fix things as more of the same just isn't going to work is it?

The buck stops with the Chairman surely?

The buck stops with the owner surely?

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #25 on March 19, 2023, 04:14:38 pm by bobbymax »
Reading between the lines, I'm not entirely certain that the relationship between the owner and chairman is as close as it maybe once was. Gavin is the brains behind the money-making part of the operation so it's possible that Mr Blunt is expendable. However, he has shares in the club so I don't know how you would work around that.

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #26 on March 19, 2023, 04:48:25 pm by danumdon »
This current regime has seen us fall from a team punching well above its weight to a team that is absolutely failing in all and every KPI you care to look at.

It's not just happened now but has become a catalogue of failure over the last 3 years.

How do you react to extract yourself from these failures? well you don't do it by doing the same things we have done for the last few years, this has only made our plight worse.

So yes, the whole sorry cabal, Club Doncaster and uncle Tom cobly and all, it all needs to go if we're to have some sort of a fighting chance of resurrecting our club, could we fail, yes of course we could, but we could also succeed.

Under the present regime we will certainly fail, because that's all we've done for the last 3 years.

You need to sell Mr Bramall, sooner rather than later please.

Campsall rover

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #27 on March 19, 2023, 04:50:37 pm by Campsall rover »
We are where we are due to

1) Appointing Andy Butler as manager when DM left.
No disrespect to AB of course. Fantastic servant and role model as player.
But he had no serious credentials to take over a team with promotion aspirations. We needed a manager preferably with a promotion on his CV who knows how to get a team promoted.
That was a massive error and started our downward spiral.

2) We then appointed Richie Wellens and personally I was happy with that as I think most people were. He has a winning mentality. Both as a player and also as a manager. He also had a league 2 promotion on his CV and promotions as a player on his CV.
Now I don’t know details of the budget he had but the recruitment was disastrous.
We were told the budget was mid table. The goal was to achieve that position.
Results started poorly and continued in that vein. We didn’t have a goalscorer or anyone resembling one.
Wellens was sacked at end of Nov.

3) We then appointed another novice in GM who could not arrest the slide and we were duly relegated in 22nd place.

GM was kept on as manager and Copps yet another novice was appointed as HoF
The recruitment seemed reasonable but we lacked the presence of physicality in the recruitment. Andrew excepted but he was only 20 yrs old with no 1st team experience. ( Then got injured )
We started 22/23 very well results wise although performances were far from convincing.
We then went into a sequence of results and performances which were quite unbelievably poor for the level we were playing at.
Barrow, Hartlepool & Carlisle all away being the worst.
After GM’s post match interview at Carlisle, it was obvious the only thing that could be done was relieve him of his duties. That was done.

4) Then we appoint yet another rookie manager that Copps had identified as a top coach. He had though only 9 games under his belt as a manager and in those 9 games i think only 1 maybe 2 were wins.

So what is the common denominator?
Rookie Managers and some really poor recruitment.

Blunt had presumably the final say in appointing Butler, Wellens & McSheffrey so he is responsible for those mistakes.
He also has the final say on the budget set. If our budget was mid table in 21/22 then as we were told then Wellens is culpable for spending most of it on dross.
If the budget was bottom 4 or even bottom 6/7 then we were always likely to be sailing against the wind.
Wellens never said that the budget was inadequate, in fact he said he would be aiming for the play off’s. A great attitude. Winning mentality again.

So are lessons ever going to be learned?

When DS inevitably picks up his P45 will Copps and Blunt realise we need a manager with a proper managerial CV
Do they understand promotion does not happen by accident.
It only happens if we have a manager and players who are capable of achieving it.

Now I do believe we have the nucleus of a squad capable of top 7 min in this league.
The current manger has failed miserably achieving it.
He is completely out of his depth both tactically and is lacking the motivational skills to get the best from this group of players.

We need to get rid of DS preferably immediately imo.
What is the point in waiting until next November when we will be no higher than where we are right now.  Hold their hands up and admit it was a mistake.
Bring in a manager with a proper CV.
Then clear out some dead wood from the squad.
We then need to recruit 4 quality players in the summer.
Priority being a powerful mobile experienced midfielder ( probably in the age range 28/31 ) & a striker who has goals on his CV someone preferably in the age range 24/28 who can hold the ball up with back to goal.

If that means having a top 3 budget next season the let’s have a top 3 budget. Having said that a good manager, a tactically astute manager with motivational skills could get a a team on a much lesser budget promoted out of this league.

Evans at Stevenage being prime example this season ( it riles me to use him as an example ) & no i do not want him near our club.

Coleman at Accrington has shown what can be achieved with minimal budget.
Other examples are Morecambe, Forest Green Rovers, Burton Albion,
Cheltenham Town, Cambridge United.  All much smaller clubs than us.
Look at Barrow, Sutton United and Harrogate Town operating in this league on very small budgets. All have held their own since their promotions to League 2.

WE NEED A PROPER MANAGER COPPS & MR BLUNT.  If you’re serious about promotion next season then do not make the same mistake for the 4th time.
Only complete idiots would do that.  Copps 1 mistake. Hopefully you have learnt from this and will find the Manager who will resurrect this Football Club to where it should be & where you yourself played for us and where our fantastic loyal fans deserve to see us play.

Sorry that was very long winded.
Needed to get that off my chest. Am still recovering from that debacle  we endured yesterday.




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Sprotyrover

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #28 on March 19, 2023, 04:52:19 pm by Sprotyrover »
Can somebody who is in to this stuff look at the Clubs finances and tell me how much Blunt has poured into the club,bearing in mind he has the same or similar funds as JR had? I would be happy if he has put £500,000 a year in, that what I would expect from somebody with an annual income of Circa £1.2 million, I suspect that is not the case and Terry is probably paying the guy a salary!
I personally expect a decent club chairman at our level to be putting that sort of his own money in.
As For TB good luck mate you will be the richest man in the cemetery!
« Last Edit: March 19, 2023, 04:54:25 pm by Sprotyrover »

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Re: Does the Chairman need to go?
« Reply #29 on March 19, 2023, 04:53:14 pm by Alan Southstand »
To answer the o.p.’s question - absolutely.

We’re going down quicker than the Titanic.

 

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