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Filo

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The Meet the owners events
« on March 30, 2023, 07:16:10 am by Filo »
I attended a couple of them in the early days we had them, I had my suspicions then that these were just a back slapping exercise, and in light of Copps comments this week I think those suspicions have now been confirmed. If the owners don’t want to inject any more money thats fine, it is their money to use as they please after all, but be honest with the fans instead of bluff and bluster, I think it’s probably time to say thanks for the memory’s but it’s time to move on and seek new people at the helm. Right now I’m beginning to question why I renewed my Season Ticket when clearly the plug has been pulled. I’ve been a supporter of the board over the years, right now that support has been withdrawn, we are heading back to the dark days again!



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Arsenal Of The North

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Re: The Meet the owners events
« Reply #1 on March 30, 2023, 08:00:41 am by Arsenal Of The North »
The boards legacy will not be the promotions they achieved, but the state they have left us in at the end.


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Re: The Meet the owners events
« Reply #2 on March 30, 2023, 08:25:35 am by Campsall rover »
I attended a couple of them in the early days we had them, I had my suspicions then that these were just a back slapping exercise, and in light of Copps comments this week I think those suspicions have now been confirmed. If the owners don’t want to inject any more money thats fine, it is their money to use as they please after all, but be honest with the fans instead of bluff and bluster, I think it’s probably time to say thanks for the memory’s but it’s time to move on and seek new people at the helm. Right now I’m beginning to question why I renewed my Season Ticket when clearly the plug has been pulled. I’ve been a supporter of the board over the years, right now that support has been withdrawn, we are heading back to the dark days again!
Yes Filo agree completely.
I have always backed the board and praised them at every opportunity in the past, but if they are not going to fund the playing budget to a level that is in the top echelons of league 2 then we have serious problems moving forwards as a Football Team and as a Football Club overall.
They need to be honest with the fans because all we can see is everything about the club being run down to a bare minimum standard to be operational over the last 2 yrs.

Yes Covid took its toll on finances of course it did. But it took its toll on all the other EFL clubs also.
Yes some were not prudent enough in 2020/21 and may have considerable financial problems now.
There are others though that have invested in their playing budget and seeing the fruits of that with increased attendances and success on the field of play.

Surely if we are stable financially then isn’t now the time to invest in the playing budget and get the club moving up the football ladder.

I just don’t understand what this malaise from the board is all about and what the end game plan is.
Is there one?

The lack of transparency from David Blunt is scaring me and I find it almost contemptuous.


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Re: The Meet the owners events
« Reply #3 on March 30, 2023, 09:30:40 am by i_ateallthepies »
I agree with all of that, Campsall other than to modify you assertion that we have serious problems moving forward.  I think it should say we have problems standing still.

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Re: The Meet the owners events
« Reply #4 on March 30, 2023, 09:38:00 am by normal rules »
I’ve not been to any of these due to them being midweek and me being an exile. My brother and dad have though. He has pointed out to me that when questions are directed at Brammall , it’s usually GB that answers them . Almost like Brammall either can’t answer or won’t answer the questions .
« Last Edit: March 30, 2023, 10:16:13 am by normal rules »

The Loan Arranger

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« Reply #5 on March 30, 2023, 10:24:21 am by The Loan Arranger »
No matter how bad we are playing we always seem to get on a good run when they hold these meetings. I therefore suggest we have them every 2 weeks!

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« Reply #6 on March 30, 2023, 03:11:16 pm by Bessie Red »
I attended a couple of them in the early days we had them, I had my suspicions then that these were just a back slapping exercise, and in light of Copps comments this week I think those suspicions have now been confirmed. If the owners don’t want to inject any more money thats fine, it is their money to use as they please after all, but be honest with the fans instead of bluff and bluster, I think it’s probably time to say thanks for the memory’s but it’s time to move on and seek new people at the helm. Right now I’m beginning to question why I renewed my Season Ticket when clearly the plug has been pulled. I’ve been a supporter of the board over the years, right now that support has been withdrawn, we are heading back to the dark days again!
Yes Filo agree completely.
I have always backed the board and praised them at every opportunity in the past, but if they are not going to fund the playing budget to a level that is in the top echelons of league 2 then we have serious problems moving forwards as a Football Team and as a Football Club overall.
They need to be honest with the fans because all we can see is everything about the club being run down to a bare minimum standard to be operational over the last 2 yrs.

Yes Covid took its toll on finances of course it did. But it took its toll on all the other EFL clubs also.
Yes some were not prudent enough in 2020/21 and may have considerable financial problems now.
There are others though that have invested in their playing budget and seeing the fruits of that with increased attendances and success on the field of play.

Surely if we are stable financially then isn’t now the time to invest in the playing budget and get the club moving up the football ladder.

I just don’t understand what this malaise from the board is all about and what the end game plan is.
Is there one?

The lack of transparency from David Blunt is scaring me and I find it almost contemptuous.



Agreed, now is exactly the right time to invest in the playing squad. I reckon if the owners injected 1 to 1.5 million (probably wouldnt even need that much) specifically into the playing budget as a one off investment we would be back in Lge 1 within two seasons. And as SM has intimated once we are back in Lge1 the sustainability model would work much better.
The question is though would you trust JC & DS with 1 - 1.5 million extra funding or would you get a proven, experienced Lge 2 manager with promotions on his CV in first.

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Re: The Meet the owners events
« Reply #7 on March 30, 2023, 03:25:41 pm by Bentley Bullet »
I always thought the best policy for promotion was to have a team in place good enough to compete in the division they are striving to get promoted into. That way, the team won't need much adjustment in pre-season and the players will be familiar with each other.

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« Reply #8 on March 30, 2023, 03:48:57 pm by Donnybob »
Of course there's another solution. Why don't the club increase ticket prices to generate an extra 1 to 1.5 million, thus allowing fans to put money where their ambition is, have a whip round to terminate the contracts of JC & DS, then run a poll on here to decide what management team Viking Chat posters want and then sit back whilst the team rips up the league?

Somehow I didn't think this will be quite as popular as demanding someone else funds it. Come on, it's only a mere couple of Million...

Alternatively, get the fans organised and buy out the club?

Or, get on the phone and find some new owners, there must be loads of potential ones out there.

This football lark is dead easy...

Alternatively just keep moaning and moaning, ripping the club apart, preaching doom and gloom and achieving absolutely nothing.

Just a thought.

Bentley Bullet

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Re: The Meet the owners events
« Reply #9 on March 30, 2023, 04:17:19 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Of course there's another solution. Why don't the club increase ticket prices to generate an extra 1 to 1.5 million, thus allowing fans to put money where their ambition is, have a whip round to terminate the contracts of JC & DS, then run a poll on here to decide what management team Viking Chat posters want and then sit back whilst the team rips up the league?

Somehow I didn't think this will be quite as popular as demanding someone else funds it. Come on, it's only a mere couple of Million...

Alternatively, get the fans organised and buy out the club?

Or, get on the phone and find some new owners, there must be loads of potential ones out there.

This football lark is dead easy...

Alternatively just keep moaning and moaning, ripping the club apart, preaching doom and gloom and achieving absolutely nothing.

Just a thought.
Do you mean like why don't Mick Lynch and his strikers buy the railway and give themselves a massive pay rise?

Donnybob

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Re: The Meet the owners events
« Reply #10 on March 30, 2023, 04:54:30 pm by Donnybob »
Strikers like that don't come cheap!

Campsall rover

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Re: The Meet the owners events
« Reply #11 on March 30, 2023, 05:00:44 pm by Campsall rover »
Of course there's another solution. Why don't the club increase ticket prices to generate an extra 1 to 1.5 million, thus allowing fans to put money where their ambition is, have a whip round to terminate the contracts of JC & DS, then run a poll on here to decide what management team Viking Chat posters want and then sit back whilst the team rips up the league?

Somehow I didn't think this will be quite as popular as demanding someone else funds it. Come on, it's only a mere couple of Million...

Alternatively, get the fans organised and buy out the club?

Or, get on the phone and find some new owners, there must be loads of potential ones out there.

This football lark is dead easy...

Alternatively just keep moaning and moaning, ripping the club apart, preaching doom and gloom and achieving absolutely nothing.

Just a thought.
So don’t you think we have anything to moan about then. You’re happy with the status quo?  I do not mean the pop group by the way.    ;)


Usher down the wing.

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Re: The Meet the owners events
« Reply #12 on March 30, 2023, 05:08:52 pm by Usher down the wing. »
Plenty to moan about Campsall, fill your boots……..oh of course, you are doing.

mushRTID

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Re: The Meet the owners events
« Reply #13 on March 30, 2023, 07:55:25 pm by mushRTID »
I attended a couple of them in the early days we had them, I had my suspicions then that these were just a back slapping exercise, and in light of Copps comments this week I think those suspicions have now been confirmed. If the owners don’t want to inject any more money thats fine, it is their money to use as they please after all, but be honest with the fans instead of bluff and bluster, I think it’s probably time to say thanks for the memory’s but it’s time to move on and seek new people at the helm. Right now I’m beginning to question why I renewed my Season Ticket when clearly the plug has been pulled. I’ve been a supporter of the board over the years, right now that support has been withdrawn, we are heading back to the dark days again!

The latest one was definitely bluff and bluster.

In a “Meet the Owners” event they filled half the time with a “Meet the Football guys” presentation. The remaining half of the time was a mixture of audience questions, Twitter questions sent in and then for some strange reason, Gavin started asking questions to the top table and leading the tone of the discussion.

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Re: The Meet the owners events
« Reply #14 on March 30, 2023, 08:09:41 pm by Chris Black come back »
I know this is a circular argument but to get back to being a competitive League One side, in the top half not the bottom half, we don’t need more financial support, we just need to spend it better. Or at least spend it better than we are, which is a low bar.

We have wasted so much money in recent years on patently bad permanent and loan signings. The budget has been largely pissed away on players that were not going to deliver with us and had no realistic potential of being monetised if they did do well. I can think of no club at our level with a more amateurish and outright inept transfer record in recent seasons.

If we had spent the existing budget at least moderately competently we wouldn’t be on the edge of the bottom half of the bottom tier of the game, playing absolutely horrific football in front of dwindling crowds.

Not every signing needed to be a success, just some. We’ve somehow managed to spend our budget and not one signing in the most recent years can be seen to have been an unmitigated success.

Whether through the hard yards of the last decade or the direct subsidy in more recent years, if I was Terry I’d be really pissed off that we’d wasted so much money. I doubt he’d have allowed this obvious waste to have happened at Keepmoat.

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Re: The Meet the owners events
« Reply #15 on March 30, 2023, 08:12:48 pm by Upton Rover »
Pointless having them

Donny Exile in York

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« Reply #16 on March 30, 2023, 08:21:52 pm by Donny Exile in York »
It is unfathomable why they are discounting season tickers and giving back Covid money that for me personally wasn't necessary..I suspect 95% of Rovers fans would have rather had the money spent on players on the pitch and stadium and not have had two years of woeful results and performances and decline.

The malaise reminds me of Mike Ashley's Newcastle tenure. Corporate culture and complete stagnation and apathy to mediocre to poor results on the pitch..
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Re: The Meet the owners events
« Reply #17 on March 30, 2023, 09:21:06 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Of course there's another solution. Why don't the club increase ticket prices to generate an extra 1 to 1.5 million, thus allowing fans to put money where their ambition is, have a whip round to terminate the contracts of JC & DS, then run a poll on here to decide what management team Viking Chat posters want and then sit back whilst the team rips up the league?

Somehow I didn't think this will be quite as popular as demanding someone else funds it. Come on, it's only a mere couple of Million...

Alternatively, get the fans organised and buy out the club?

Or, get on the phone and find some new owners, there must be loads of potential ones out there.

This football lark is dead easy...

Alternatively just keep moaning and moaning, ripping the club apart, preaching doom and gloom and achieving absolutely nothing.

Just a thought.
So don’t you think we have anything to moan about then. You’re happy with the status quo?  I do not mean the pop group by the way.    ;)


Surely, no one is happy with the status quo. We can't happy clap a team that constantly rolls over and lays down.

drfchound

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Re: The Meet the owners events
« Reply #18 on March 30, 2023, 09:23:35 pm by drfchound »
Of course there's another solution. Why don't the club increase ticket prices to generate an extra 1 to 1.5 million, thus allowing fans to put money where their ambition is, have a whip round to terminate the contracts of JC & DS, then run a poll on here to decide what management team Viking Chat posters want and then sit back whilst the team rips up the league?

Somehow I didn't think this will be quite as popular as demanding someone else funds it. Come on, it's only a mere couple of Million...

Alternatively, get the fans organised and buy out the club?

Or, get on the phone and find some new owners, there must be loads of potential ones out there.

This football lark is dead easy...

Alternatively just keep moaning and moaning, ripping the club apart, preaching doom and gloom and achieving absolutely nothing.

Just a thought.
So don’t you think we have anything to moan about then. You’re happy with the status quo?  I do not mean the pop group by the way.    ;)


Surely, no one is happy with the status quo. We can't happy clap a team that constantly rolls over and lays down.

Whatever you want!!

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #19 on March 30, 2023, 09:26:48 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Hound, I'd like to know what you're proposing.

Donny Exile in York

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« Reply #20 on March 30, 2023, 09:28:51 pm by Donny Exile in York »
Blunt even looks like Ken Richardson..

Bessie Red

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« Reply #21 on March 30, 2023, 09:41:38 pm by Bessie Red »
Of course there's another solution. Why don't the club increase ticket prices to generate an extra 1 to 1.5 million, thus allowing fans to put money where their ambition is, have a whip round to terminate the contracts of JC & DS, then run a poll on here to decide what management team Viking Chat posters want and then sit back whilst the team rips up the league?

Somehow I didn't think this will be quite as popular as demanding someone else funds it. Come on, it's only a mere couple of Million...

Alternatively, get the fans organised and buy out the club?

Or, get on the phone and find some new owners, there must be loads of potential ones out there.

This football lark is dead easy...

Alternatively just keep moaning and moaning, ripping the club apart, preaching doom and gloom and achieving absolutely nothing.

Just a thought.
So don’t you think we have anything to moan about then. You’re happy with the status quo?  I do not mean the pop group by the way.    ;)


Surely, no one is happy with the status quo. We can't happy clap a team that constantly rolls over and lays down.
The way we're performing well just be going down (down deeper & down!)

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Re: The Meet the owners events
« Reply #22 on March 30, 2023, 09:43:45 pm by roversdude »
We are down the dust pipe

Bessie Red

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« Reply #23 on March 30, 2023, 09:51:17 pm by Bessie Red »
Hound, I'd like to know what you're proposing.
I've said forty five hundred times we need a change in owners!

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« Reply #24 on March 30, 2023, 10:31:05 pm by Mr1Croft »
Pretty much feel the same as Filo's opening post.

Whilst I haven't been to a game since before the pandemic I've tried to keep tabs from afar. I've mostly been a supporter of the board and bought into their vision for the club that's been spearheaded by GB. I'll be honest, when DB was appointed chair a few years ago it did take me by surprise, but after being spoilt with a Chair like JR who had been so vocal, passionate and charismatic, I think anyone who came in as chair after would be an underwhelming appointment.

However it's hard to ignore the trajectory we have been on. It feels like the last decade has been a slow and tiresome decline in the club. When a club is relegated 4 times in a 10 year period without any major financial troubles, then you can only assume it's down to a seriously poor mis-management of the club. We've had 8 managers in that time and whilst some were clearly not up the job, those higher up have to take responsibility. It feels as if the core of the club has begun to rot over the years and all we've done is try to paper the cracks at the surface.

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« Reply #25 on March 30, 2023, 10:34:07 pm by drfchound »
Hound, I'd like to know what you're proposing.

Come on BB.
Have you been living on an island mate.

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« Reply #26 on March 31, 2023, 03:37:04 pm by Sammy Chung was King »
It seems like the club has become a hobby to the owners. We need drive, determination and a fair wedge of cash to start moving forward.

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« Reply #27 on March 31, 2023, 03:54:52 pm by mushRTID »
It seems like the club has become a hobby to the owners.

Do you know what, this seems like the best description yet!

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« Reply #28 on March 31, 2023, 04:01:24 pm by steve@dcfd »
It seems like the club has become a hobby to the owners. We need drive, determination and a fair wedge of cash to start moving forward.
I see yo say owners. I know we have three major share holders. But does Blunt and Baldwin put any of their money into the club or club Doncaster. Is  it TB that covers the debts of the club when required. If we need extra investment above the contribution of Club Doncaster for the budgets including the player budget is it only TB that can do that or wil Blunt and Baldwin put money in. So have we  only got one owner

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« Reply #29 on March 31, 2023, 04:38:21 pm by Cramby10 »
It seems like the club has become a hobby to the owners.

Do you know what, this seems like the best description yet!
you could say the same about it being a hobby for the manager also. Tinkering and f**king about with no regard for the fans whilst massaging his own ego.

 

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