David Blunt

[Ronnie Dovers]

Blunt needs to go. Schofield needs to go. Bramall needs to go. Presiding over absolute dross performances and results including not one shot against Crewe in the first half as I type after 40 minutes  or in recent months the same pattern of no chances, lack of quality etc. Time to go and most of the players too.

This is the worst state of affairs since about 1996 when Ken Richardson was purposefully sending us into oblivion with a burnt ground to an embarrassing all time low. This shower isant far off it.

What do you think happens if Bramall just goes? His funding has supported everything we've achieved over the last 10+ years.

It's a ridiculous, brainless thing to ask for.

Your the brainless one. Supporting the current regime and the decline. So we just carry on into oblivion do we? You happy with 3 season of actual attricoius results, lies over the budget, an empty stadium..  I have never heard such empty headed, spineless, weak drivel as comes from some on here, even over 2 years later after the first pleas for some investment before it was too late. So direct your spineless drivel elsewhere numpty.  If the owners don't invest then you will see so many season ticket holders and match day fans not invest.. why should they to turn up to the dross like today.

We have a great stadium, a cheap annual rent, a great fan base and City, its not the empty vessel you fear which i am sure would attract investment. There was talk on the radio only the other of potential interest.

I'm afraid after the 4th manager, the blame solely on the manager is wearing thin. No more scapegoats for the current regime. The buck stops with the Chairman and owners.

I made it quite clear that I don't support the current regime. We're clearly underperforming, and I quite clearly put the lion's share of that underperformance on the shoulders of one third of our current ownership. Bramall deserves questions for putting trust in that person. I don't question that either. But how does forcing out our only benefactor (TB) improve the current situation?

'We're terrible, so let's decrease our funding and that will help' Explain the thinking behind that?

[Padge_DRFC]

Imagine trying to flog STs for £300 or more. They needed to reduce them last season as last season was dross. This has been even worse over saw by a manager who is so thick to see what he is doing isn't working.

[Donny Exile in York]

Blunt needs to go. Schofield needs to go. Bramall needs to go. Presiding over absolute dross performances and results including not one shot against Crewe in the first half as I type after 40 minutes  or in recent months the same pattern of no chances, lack of quality etc. Time to go and most of the players too.

This is the worst state of affairs since about 1996 when Ken Richardson was purposefully sending us into oblivion with a burnt ground to an embarrassing all time low. This shower isant far off it.

What do you think happens if Bramall just goes? His funding has supported everything we've achieved over the last 10+ years.

It's a ridiculous, brainless thing to ask for.

Your the brainless one. Supporting the current regime and the decline. So we just carry on into oblivion do we? You happy with 3 season of actual attricoius results, lies over the budget, an empty stadium..  I have never heard such empty headed, spineless, weak drivel as comes from some on here, even over 2 years later after the first pleas for some investment before it was too late. So direct your spineless drivel elsewhere numpty.  If the owners don't invest then you will see so many season ticket holders and match day fans not invest.. why should they to turn up to the dross like today.

We have a great stadium, a cheap annual rent, a great fan base and City, its not the empty vessel you fear which i am sure would attract investment. There was talk on the radio only the other of potential interest.

I'm afraid after the 4th manager, the blame solely on the manager is wearing thin. No more scapegoats for the current regime. The buck stops with the Chairman and owners.

I made it quite clear that I don't support the current regime. We're clearly underperforming, and I quite clearly put the lion's share of that underperformance on the shoulders of one third of our current ownership. Bramall deserves questions for putting trust in that person. I don't question that either. But how does forcing out our only benefactor (TB) improve the current situation?

'We're terrible, so let's decrease our funding and that will help' Explain the thinking behind that?

How does keeping him improve the situation, explain me that? He isant willing to invest anymore and from all gathered is not a passionate Rovers fan its all.about the community. You.use the name benefactor, I take that as in the loosest sense cos he is no longer supporting the club other than on a short term cash flow basis by the sounds of it. An overdraft would accomplish the same benefit. Anyway your talking at cross purposes and the sort of pedantic  drivel you.get on.here, as when we say they should go, which they should, we are generally hoping for some miracle of regime change, some one akin to Stewart at Rotherham or JR after Richardson comes in with fresh ideas, enthusiasm, passion, a new Broom including a new manager too. We are not saying he should go. Leave a huge vacuum, but anyway if we are a sustainable model.and all the hype is to be taken at face value as a lot of holier than thous have done over the last few years of spin, then we are sustainable and have no benefactor now and so we just have a tired old board who would rather be doing something else with their time so makes no.odds if they go. At least someone new might have the vigour and enthusiasm needed to run a football club rather than the spin and bull of this current lot in recent years.

[Ronnie Dovers]

Blunt needs to go. Schofield needs to go. Bramall needs to go. Presiding over absolute dross performances and results including not one shot against Crewe in the first half as I type after 40 minutes  or in recent months the same pattern of no chances, lack of quality etc. Time to go and most of the players too.

This is the worst state of affairs since about 1996 when Ken Richardson was purposefully sending us into oblivion with a burnt ground to an embarrassing all time low. This shower isant far off it.

What do you think happens if Bramall just goes? His funding has supported everything we've achieved over the last 10+ years.

It's a ridiculous, brainless thing to ask for.

Your the brainless one. Supporting the current regime and the decline. So we just carry on into oblivion do we? You happy with 3 season of actual attricoius results, lies over the budget, an empty stadium..  I have never heard such empty headed, spineless, weak drivel as comes from some on here, even over 2 years later after the first pleas for some investment before it was too late. So direct your spineless drivel elsewhere numpty.  If the owners don't invest then you will see so many season ticket holders and match day fans not invest.. why should they to turn up to the dross like today.

We have a great stadium, a cheap annual rent, a great fan base and City, its not the empty vessel you fear which i am sure would attract investment. There was talk on the radio only the other of potential interest.

I'm afraid after the 4th manager, the blame solely on the manager is wearing thin. No more scapegoats for the current regime. The buck stops with the Chairman and owners.

I made it quite clear that I don't support the current regime. We're clearly underperforming, and I quite clearly put the lion's share of that underperformance on the shoulders of one third of our current ownership. Bramall deserves questions for putting trust in that person. I don't question that either. But how does forcing out our only benefactor (TB) improve the current situation?

'We're terrible, so let's decrease our funding and that will help' Explain the thinking behind that?

How does keeping him improve the situation, explain me that? He isant willing to invest anymore and from all gathered is not a passionate Rovers fan its all.about the community. You.use the name benefactor, I take that as in the loosest sense cos he is no longer supporting the club other than on a short term cash flow basis by the sounds of it. An overdraft would accomplish the same benefit. Anyway your talking at cross purposes and the sort of pedantic  drivel you.get on.here, as when we say they should go, which they should, we are generally hoping for some miracle of regime change, some one akin to Stewart at Rotherham or JR after Richardson comes in with fresh ideas, enthusiasm, passion, a new Broom including a new manager too. We are not saying he should go. Leave a huge vacuum, but anyway if we are a sustainable model.and all the hype is to be taken at face value as a lot of holier than thous have done over the last few years of spin, then we are sustainable and have no benefactor now and so we just have a tired old board who would rather be doing something else with their time so makes no.odds if they go. At least someone new might have the vigour and enthusiasm needed to run a football club rather than the spin and bull of this current lot in recent years.

Put forward an alternative.

[Donny Exile in York]

Blunt needs to go. Schofield needs to go. Bramall needs to go. Presiding over absolute dross performances and results including not one shot against Crewe in the first half as I type after 40 minutes  or in recent months the same pattern of no chances, lack of quality etc. Time to go and most of the players too.

This is the worst state of affairs since about 1996 when Ken Richardson was purposefully sending us into oblivion with a burnt ground to an embarrassing all time low. This shower isant far off it.

What do you think happens if Bramall just goes? His funding has supported everything we've achieved over the last 10+ years.

It's a ridiculous, brainless thing to ask for.

Your the brainless one. Supporting the current regime and the decline. So we just carry on into oblivion do we? You happy with 3 season of actual attricoius results, lies over the budget, an empty stadium..  I have never heard such empty headed, spineless, weak drivel as comes from some on here, even over 2 years later after the first pleas for some investment before it was too late. So direct your spineless drivel elsewhere numpty.  If the owners don't invest then you will see so many season ticket holders and match day fans not invest.. why should they to turn up to the dross like today.

We have a great stadium, a cheap annual rent, a great fan base and City, its not the empty vessel you fear which i am sure would attract investment. There was talk on the radio only the other of potential interest.

I'm afraid after the 4th manager, the blame solely on the manager is wearing thin. No more scapegoats for the current regime. The buck stops with the Chairman and owners.

I made it quite clear that I don't support the current regime. We're clearly underperforming, and I quite clearly put the lion's share of that underperformance on the shoulders of one third of our current ownership. Bramall deserves questions for putting trust in that person. I don't question that either. But how does forcing out our only benefactor (TB) improve the current situation?

'We're terrible, so let's decrease our funding and that will help' Explain the thinking behind that?

How does keeping him improve the situation, explain me that? He isant willing to invest anymore and from all gathered is not a passionate Rovers fan its all.about the community. You.use the name benefactor, I take that as in the loosest sense cos he is no longer supporting the club other than on a short term cash flow basis by the sounds of it. An overdraft would accomplish the same benefit. Anyway your talking at cross purposes and the sort of pedantic  drivel you.get on.here, as when we say they should go, which they should, we are generally hoping for some miracle of regime change, some one akin to Stewart at Rotherham or JR after Richardson comes in with fresh ideas, enthusiasm, passion, a new Broom including a new manager too. We are not saying he should go. Leave a huge vacuum, but anyway if we are a sustainable model.and all the hype is to be taken at face value as a lot of holier than thous have done over the last few years of spin, then we are sustainable and have no benefactor now and so we just have a tired old board who would rather be doing something else with their time so makes no.odds if they go. At least someone new might have the vigour and enthusiasm needed to run a football club rather than the spin and bull of this current lot in recent years.

Put forward an alternative.

I dont need to. Its your post in the first place! Who would you replace Blunt with? Thar was your suggestion to get rid of Blunt which I endorse, second and support wholeheartedly.

I renewed my season ticket. That's my loyalty to the club despite the dire performances and where my heart lies, not some disinterested spin merchants no longer interested in supporting the club financially to have success on the pitch. 

[Pliskin]

I always thought until recently that the relegation from League 1 in 2016 was a fluke bad season. I now think that getting into the playoffs in 2019 was actually the fluke, and turbulent management and underperformance is the norm with these people in charge.

Fans have been absolutely hammered with awful losing football for two years straight and shows no sign of turning around. The number of genuinely decent home performances in that time can be counted on one hand. The board slashed season ticket prices after Covid, despite this with how bad it's been, they've somehow still contrived to drastically shrink the fanbase. We haven't even seen the worst of it yet. Surely crowds aren't going to be above the 4000s next season if nothing changes.

It's clear that this is now a zombie ownership, existing, but stumbling around with no purpose. And apathy filters down from the top. No one gives a damn anymore, even some die-hard supporters are giving up. I don't see how we're going anywhere but down with this ownership.

Sweeping changes needed at the very least. Otherwise it's time to go.

[Ronnie Dovers]

Blunt needs to go. Schofield needs to go. Bramall needs to go. Presiding over absolute dross performances and results including not one shot against Crewe in the first half as I type after 40 minutes  or in recent months the same pattern of no chances, lack of quality etc. Time to go and most of the players too.

This is the worst state of affairs since about 1996 when Ken Richardson was purposefully sending us into oblivion with a burnt ground to an embarrassing all time low. This shower isant far off it.

What do you think happens if Bramall just goes? His funding has supported everything we've achieved over the last 10+ years.

It's a ridiculous, brainless thing to ask for.

Your the brainless one. Supporting the current regime and the decline. So we just carry on into oblivion do we? You happy with 3 season of actual attricoius results, lies over the budget, an empty stadium..  I have never heard such empty headed, spineless, weak drivel as comes from some on here, even over 2 years later after the first pleas for some investment before it was too late. So direct your spineless drivel elsewhere numpty.  If the owners don't invest then you will see so many season ticket holders and match day fans not invest.. why should they to turn up to the dross like today.

We have a great stadium, a cheap annual rent, a great fan base and City, its not the empty vessel you fear which i am sure would attract investment. There was talk on the radio only the other of potential interest.

I'm afraid after the 4th manager, the blame solely on the manager is wearing thin. No more scapegoats for the current regime. The buck stops with the Chairman and owners.

I made it quite clear that I don't support the current regime. We're clearly underperforming, and I quite clearly put the lion's share of that underperformance on the shoulders of one third of our current ownership. Bramall deserves questions for putting trust in that person. I don't question that either. But how does forcing out our only benefactor (TB) improve the current situation?

'We're terrible, so let's decrease our funding and that will help' Explain the thinking behind that?

How does keeping him improve the situation, explain me that? He isant willing to invest anymore and from all gathered is not a passionate Rovers fan its all.about the community. You.use the name benefactor, I take that as in the loosest sense cos he is no longer supporting the club other than on a short term cash flow basis by the sounds of it. An overdraft would accomplish the same benefit. Anyway your talking at cross purposes and the sort of pedantic  drivel you.get on.here, as when we say they should go, which they should, we are generally hoping for some miracle of regime change, some one akin to Stewart at Rotherham or JR after Richardson comes in with fresh ideas, enthusiasm, passion, a new Broom including a new manager too. We are not saying he should go. Leave a huge vacuum, but anyway if we are a sustainable model.and all the hype is to be taken at face value as a lot of holier than thous have done over the last few years of spin, then we are sustainable and have no benefactor now and so we just have a tired old board who would rather be doing something else with their time so makes no.odds if they go. At least someone new might have the vigour and enthusiasm needed to run a football club rather than the spin and bull of this current lot in recent years.

Put forward an alternative.

I dont need to. Its your post in the first place! Who would you replace Blunt with? Thar was your suggestion to get rid of Blunt which I endorse, second and support wholeheartedly.

I renewed my season ticket. That's my loyalty to the club despite the dire performances and where my heart lies, not some disinterested spin merchants no longer interested in supporting the club financially to have success on the pitch.

I have absolutely no idea who I'd replace him with. I'm in no position to put forward alternatives. All I can do is suggest where I think the weakness in our current set up lies. I just don't believe getting rid of the guy who has selflessly put millions into our club would have any positive effect. And I don't think you have an alternative to his funding either.

[Donny Exile in York]

Blunt needs to go. Schofield needs to go. Bramall needs to go. Presiding over absolute dross performances and results including not one shot against Crewe in the first half as I type after 40 minutes  or in recent months the same pattern of no chances, lack of quality etc. Time to go and most of the players too.

This is the worst state of affairs since about 1996 when Ken Richardson was purposefully sending us into oblivion with a burnt ground to an embarrassing all time low. This shower isant far off it.

What do you think happens if Bramall just goes? His funding has supported everything we've achieved over the last 10+ years.

It's a ridiculous, brainless thing to ask for.

Your the brainless one. Supporting the current regime and the decline. So we just carry on into oblivion do we? You happy with 3 season of actual attricoius results, lies over the budget, an empty stadium..  I have never heard such empty headed, spineless, weak drivel as comes from some on here, even over 2 years later after the first pleas for some investment before it was too late. So direct your spineless drivel elsewhere numpty.  If the owners don't invest then you will see so many season ticket holders and match day fans not invest.. why should they to turn up to the dross like today.

We have a great stadium, a cheap annual rent, a great fan base and City, its not the empty vessel you fear which i am sure would attract investment. There was talk on the radio only the other of potential interest.

I'm afraid after the 4th manager, the blame solely on the manager is wearing thin. No more scapegoats for the current regime. The buck stops with the Chairman and owners.

I made it quite clear that I don't support the current regime. We're clearly underperforming, and I quite clearly put the lion's share of that underperformance on the shoulders of one third of our current ownership. Bramall deserves questions for putting trust in that person. I don't question that either. But how does forcing out our only benefactor (TB) improve the current situation?

'We're terrible, so let's decrease our funding and that will help' Explain the thinking behind that?

How does keeping him improve the situation, explain me that? He isant willing to invest anymore and from all gathered is not a passionate Rovers fan its all.about the community. You.use the name benefactor, I take that as in the loosest sense cos he is no longer supporting the club other than on a short term cash flow basis by the sounds of it. An overdraft would accomplish the same benefit. Anyway your talking at cross purposes and the sort of pedantic  drivel you.get on.here, as when we say they should go, which they should, we are generally hoping for some miracle of regime change, some one akin to Stewart at Rotherham or JR after Richardson comes in with fresh ideas, enthusiasm, passion, a new Broom including a new manager too. We are not saying he should go. Leave a huge vacuum, but anyway if we are a sustainable model.and all the hype is to be taken at face value as a lot of holier than thous have done over the last few years of spin, then we are sustainable and have no benefactor now and so we just have a tired old board who would rather be doing something else with their time so makes no.odds if they go. At least someone new might have the vigour and enthusiasm needed to run a football club rather than the spin and bull of this current lot in recent years.

Put forward an alternative.

I dont need to. Its your post in the first place! Who would you replace Blunt with? Thar was your suggestion to get rid of Blunt which I endorse, second and support wholeheartedly.

I renewed my season ticket. That's my loyalty to the club despite the dire performances and where my heart lies, not some disinterested spin merchants no longer interested in supporting the club financially to have success on the pitch.

I have absolutely no idea who I'd replace him with. I'm in no position to put forward alternatives. All I can do is suggest where I think the weakness in our current set up lies. I just don't believe getting rid of the guy who has selflessly put millions into our club would have any positive effect. And I don't think you have an alternative to his funding either.

There you.go again saying an alternative to his funding as if he is still putting in millions which he is not. But of course I don't have an alternative, unless I win the lottery tonight as I'm not a financial broker and I don't think my job would like me using the millions given to increase housing supply to buy new players for DRFC!

But look back to our last home game in 1998, against Colchester, I wouldn't have dared to dream.on that day that ww would survive, we had a ramshackle ground, 6 professional.players on our books and had just let in 130 goals in a season!  But an investor did come, we had 4 promotions in 15 seasons, 5 of 6 in the Championship, saw us beat Leeds at Wembley, Won the JPT at the Millenium stadium, got a new £30m stadium.. so if we found a new investor then why not now when we have a great stadium, a more recent successful legacy, a low annual rental overhead, own our own training ground and have a better fanbase than back in 1998.. back then we didn't even have a sponsor on our home shirt!

[roversdude]

But he is still funding the club - he is dipping in his pocket for the energy bills. By the way please don’t take this as condoning the current playing and management regime

[Donny Exile in York]

But he is still funding the club - he is dipping in his pocket for the energy bills. By the way, please don’t take this as condoning the current playing and management regime

It's hardly significant investment. Yes I have seen the figures quoted and I'm not dismissing them as insignificant, but it's hardly.crippling to one of Yorkshires richest multi millionaires.. and hardly.scary numbers to.say, we can't get someone with similar money and greater passion to see us do well on the pitch where it counts.. not in the bloody community. Save that for different charities. We are a football club, not the local institute.  Give me someone who knows their football and wants to see us successful on the football pitch. It feels very much like the Corporate non football grip on Newcastle under Mike Ashley but at a lower level, and the sooner we are sold to new football people, the better.

[Sammy Chung was King]

The problem is there seems no end to downward spiral, until we are in a situation like Scunthorpe, it really is that serious potentially.
If they don’t want to put money in actively look for a buyer, instead of saying it’s always been up for sale.

You don’t fully appreciate what you have until you lose it. We lost John Ryan and we lost our clubs biggest ally. Yes he made some poor decisions near the end but the majority were good decisions . To get another like him is asking too much.

The whole club is jaded. It needs some energy instead of going through the motions of just surviving. Those players that’s contracts are up need to be let go on free transfers. We need to be actively looking for young, hungry and ambitious footballers in the National league, conference north etc.

Add to them one or two good solid experienced players with two or three good years left in them and you might have a team.
It is important this manager is sacked before the season ends. He is in way above his head, he cannot deal with what needs doing. Leadership is needed throughout the club.
We need changes at board, managerial, coaching, scouting and playing levels.

[roversdude]

Sammy if we followed your suggestion this forum would explode with posts about doing things on the cheap. Totally agree we need a full overhaul

[ncRover]

We need something to happen NOW.

We should be talking to players who’s contracts are coming to an end with a view to signing for us NOW. If a change doesn’t occur we will be getting the wrong type of player.

Effective and hard-working football is more important than “playing the right way” at this moment in time. Even in the Premier League, the struggling teams have a chance at staying up by focusing on the basics.

An average budget can go a long way on that in this league. Persisting with this course will lose the club more money than sacking Schofield. Look at the empty seats!!

I’d rather Schofield AND Copps went now if that’s what it takes. Is Copps just as stubborn in his vision?

[Campsall rover]

The right way of playing is a winning way. End of.

Trying to replicate the SoD team is just so unbelievably ridiculous.
This getting our identity back should mean winning football matches not trying to be the Arsenal of the North again.

The only way we get out of this league and dreaming now out of League 1 is having a style of play that :
1) makes us hard to beat.
2) creates chances and scores goals.

To do that you need a solid physical spine first of all.
You need a manager who is tactically astute and can motivate professional footballers.

3) You need at least one real leader on the field of play.
Preferably 3/4 leaders.
4) You need a great team spirit and a winning never say die attitude from the entire Management, coaching & playing staff.

We currently have none of those. Not even one of those ingredients to be successful.

2012/13 that’s what needs replicating Copps.  Surely you haven’t forgotten about about that season. Is that day at Brentford just a blur.
Surely not.
That’s what needs to be replicated.

Forget SoD that era has gone. It would be wonderful to replicate again one day but what we need right now is some or most of what that 2012/13 team had.

1st thing is get a Manager in who knows how to get promoted.
Until we do that then all the other factors needed to be successful will never happen.

Is DS still here. It’s Sunday morning 8.30 am
Good grief how long is this going to take. 

[Donny Exile in York]

The right way of playing is a winning way. End of.

Trying to replicate the SoD team is just so unbelievably ridiculous.
This getting our identity back should mean winning football matches not trying to be the Arsenal of the North again.

The only way we get out of this league and dreaming now out of League 1 is having a style of play that :
1) makes us hard to beat.
2) creates chances and scores goals.

To do that you need a solid physical spine first of all.
You need a manager who is tactically astute and can motivate professional footballers.

3) You need at least one real leader on the field of play.
Preferably 3/4 leaders.
4) You need a great team spirit and a winning never say die attitude from the entire Management, coaching & playing staff.

We currently have none of those. Not even one of those ingredients to be successful.

2012/13 that’s what needs replicating Copps.  Surely you haven’t forgotten about about that season. Is that day at Brentford just a blur.
Surely not.
That’s what needs to be replicated.

Forget SoD that era has gone. It would be wonderful to replicate again one day but what we need right now is some or most of what that 2012/13 team had.

1st thing is get a Manager in who knows how to get promoted.
Until we do that then all the other factors needed to be successful will never happen.

Is DS still here. It’s Sunday morning 8.30 am
Good grief how long is this going to take. 

Very good post Campsall, talking alot of sense. In league Two you need physical strength and power, and to play two up front.

[StocksArmy]

I really dont understand the 2 up front debate. Agreed that its what we should currently do but, we only dont get the best out of the formation we play because we have recruited THAT badly that we dont have the players to play that system. 95% of the squad really are so, so poor. And for all the people now taking sympathy on Mcsheffrey need to get a grip, he played a big part in this too.

[Ronnie Dovers]

But he is still funding the club - he is dipping in his pocket for the energy bills. By the way, please don’t take this as condoning the current playing and management regime

It's hardly significant investment. Yes I have seen the figures quoted and I'm not dismissing them as insignificant, but it's hardly.crippling to one of Yorkshires richest multi millionaires.. and hardly.scary numbers to.say, we can't get someone with similar money and greater passion to see us do well on the pitch where it counts.. not in the bloody community. Save that for different charities. We are a football club, not the local institute.  Give me someone who knows their football and wants to see us successful on the football pitch. It feels very much like the Corporate non football grip on Newcastle under Mike Ashley but at a lower level, and the sooner we are sold to new football people, the better.

So he's not putting in the same level of funding he did previously. But he's still stepping in and bailing us out when issues arise. By all accounts, we'd have been in a lot of trouble during COVID without TB stepping in and plugging the financial gaps.

So again, is it better to have a multi millionaire there to provide extra funds when we need them? Or to have no safety net at all?

[Lesonthewest]

Coppinger has made a massive mistake with this guy, but he’s obviously done it for the good of the club in mind. The manager needs to go, & go now. Coppinger needs to admit he's made a mistake, shake his hand, & do a reset.

Forget the inexperienced coaches & go get an experienced manager, they are out there if we want to be a progressive, ambitious club & stop this landslide. Coppinger has played in league 2 so knows what is needed to get out of it.

Has as been posted earlier in the thread we need tough, uncompromising players, physical, mentally strong, & a real will to win. Please lose this 'process' football Copps, that's for another era, not league 2. A no nonsense manager who can mould these players that can at least compete in this league & give our supporters a team we can get behind, we deserve better than this, much better.

[ncRover]

If it’s not 2 up front it has to be 3 in midfield. We have neither.

3 in defence is where we have the overload on the ball - where it matters least. That doesn’t create chances it just means “to me to you” between the defenders. DULL.

[Chris Black come back]

Yet again no clean sheet and yet again both goals came from pure defensive errors. We have three centre backs yet still concede 2 at home against a poor side that averages 2/3 of a goal away from home usually. The whole set up is rank bad.

[Donny Exile in York]

But he is still funding the club - he is dipping in his pocket for the energy bills. By the way, please don’t take this as condoning the current playing and management regime

It's hardly significant investment. Yes I have seen the figures quoted and I'm not dismissing them as insignificant, but it's hardly.crippling to one of Yorkshires richest multi millionaires.. and hardly.scary numbers to.say, we can't get someone with similar money and greater passion to see us do well on the pitch where it counts.. not in the bloody community. Save that for different charities. We are a football club, not the local institute.  Give me someone who knows their football and wants to see us successful on the football pitch. It feels very much like the Corporate non football grip on Newcastle under Mike Ashley but at a lower level, and the sooner we are sold to new football people, the better.

So he's not putting in the same level of funding he did previously. But he's still stepping in and bailing us out when issues arise. By all accounts, we'd have been in a lot of trouble during COVID without TB stepping in and plugging the financial gaps.

So again, is it better to have a multi millionaire there to provide extra funds when we need them? Or to have no safety net at all?

Look you keep banging on and i am losing enthusiasm to reply. I think short term yes, but as TB also recognises he isan't going to be around forever, so he needs to go as well, and let a new broom come in and have a go. I am fully aware of the absolute mess at York City since the takeover so let's not jump to conclusions as to what this or that reader is saying without spelling out exactly what you are referring to, who replaces Blunt, what succession planning do you envisage? we can all be pedantic and go into it in depth. At the end of the day, his interest has wained along with his financial input, and whether it be next month, 3 months, 6 months or 12 months, whatever the timescale, we need fresh impetus, new ideas, new investment and new passion for the future.

You talk about him during Covid, me and friends at the time said when Covid struck that it would be a convenient issue to justify him pulling the plug and so it transpires. Don't forget in the context we had the Marquis money in instalments, Whiteman's transfer fee and the legacy of reaching the 5th round in the FA Cup the season before Covid struck. I lay the blame for our demise, for witnessing a 0-5 humiliation against Rotherham at home, at the feet of the benefactor who chose to pull the plug and left us significantly under resourced on the pitch as well as rookie managers appointed aligned to replacing the likes of Whiteman with Bogle and Bostock, i lay the blame ultimately with the owners, so Blunt as Chairman and Bramall as owner and so called benefactor, so i'm for change, complete change ultimately after 10 years of failure. I was thinking earlier since Autumn 2013 when JR resigned, we have had 1 bounce back promotion and 3 relegations, time for change. Ultimately it doesn't matter what i think anyway i don't have any say nor do the masses of our diehard fans or season ticket holders, we just vent after more disappointment and pray for change and better times ahead. But for me, the whole lot can go, and the sooner the better. You are not going to change my mind on that so let's agree to disagree.

[sedwardsdrfc]

If it’s not 2 up front it has to be 3 in midfield. We have neither.

3 in defence is where we have the overload on the ball - where it matters least. That doesn’t create chances it just means “to me to you” between the defenders. DULL.

Agreed. The best use of 343 I’ve seen is when Conte was at Chelsea. He had the players in defence and midfield that could soak pressure up while leaving essentially 3 up front to counter. Hazard certainly never tracked back.

We want to play possession game with 3 centre half’s and only 2 midfielders. It’s nonsense. The only free passes are backwards and we don’t keep it long enough to have the wing backs in the final third. So many flaws.

[Ronnie Dovers]

But he is still funding the club - he is dipping in his pocket for the energy bills. By the way, please don’t take this as condoning the current playing and management regime

It's hardly significant investment. Yes I have seen the figures quoted and I'm not dismissing them as insignificant, but it's hardly.crippling to one of Yorkshires richest multi millionaires.. and hardly.scary numbers to.say, we can't get someone with similar money and greater passion to see us do well on the pitch where it counts.. not in the bloody community. Save that for different charities. We are a football club, not the local institute.  Give me someone who knows their football and wants to see us successful on the football pitch. It feels very much like the Corporate non football grip on Newcastle under Mike Ashley but at a lower level, and the sooner we are sold to new football people, the better.

So he's not putting in the same level of funding he did previously. But he's still stepping in and bailing us out when issues arise. By all accounts, we'd have been in a lot of trouble during COVID without TB stepping in and plugging the financial gaps.

So again, is it better to have a multi millionaire there to provide extra funds when we need them? Or to have no safety net at all?

Look you keep banging on and i am losing enthusiasm to reply. I think short term yes, but as TB also recognises he isan't going to be around forever, so he needs to go as well, and let a new broom come in and have a go. You talk about him during Covid, me and friends at the time said when Covid struck that it would be a convenient issue to justify him pulling the plug and so it transpires. Don't forget in the context we had the Marquis money in instalments, Whiteman's transfer fee and the legacy of reaching the 5th round in the FA Cup the season before Covid struck. I lay the blame for our demise, for witnessing a 0-5 humiliation against Rotherham at home, at the feet of the benefactor who chose to pull the plug and left us significantly under resourced on the pitch as well as rookie managers appointed aligned to replacing the likes of Whiteman with Bogle and Bostock, i lay the blame ultimately with the owners, so Blunt as Chairman and Bramall as owner and so called benefactor, so i'm for change, complete change ultimately after 10 years of failure. I was thinking earlier since Autumn 2013 when JR resigned, we have had 1 bounce back promotion and 3 relegations, time for change. Ultimately it doesn't matter what i think anyway i don't have any say nor do the masses of our diehard fans or season ticket holders, we just vent after more disappointment and pray for change and better times ahead. But for me, the whole lot can go, and the sooner the better. You are not going to change my mind on that so let's agree to disagree.

Yeah you've managed to turn the fact that he helped us through COVID with extra funds into a negative, so I think we've hit a brick wall here. Nothing wrong with differing opinions though.

[Donny Exile in York]

But he is still funding the club - he is dipping in his pocket for the energy bills. By the way, please don’t take this as condoning the current playing and management regime

It's hardly significant investment. Yes I have seen the figures quoted and I'm not dismissing them as insignificant, but it's hardly.crippling to one of Yorkshires richest multi millionaires.. and hardly.scary numbers to.say, we can't get someone with similar money and greater passion to see us do well on the pitch where it counts.. not in the bloody community. Save that for different charities. We are a football club, not the local institute.  Give me someone who knows their football and wants to see us successful on the football pitch. It feels very much like the Corporate non football grip on Newcastle under Mike Ashley but at a lower level, and the sooner we are sold to new football people, the better.

So he's not putting in the same level of funding he did previously. But he's still stepping in and bailing us out when issues arise. By all accounts, we'd have been in a lot of trouble during COVID without TB stepping in and plugging the financial gaps.

So again, is it better to have a multi millionaire there to provide extra funds when we need them? Or to have no safety net at all?

Look you keep banging on and i am losing enthusiasm to reply. I think short term yes, but as TB also recognises he isan't going to be around forever, so he needs to go as well, and let a new broom come in and have a go. You talk about him during Covid, me and friends at the time said when Covid struck that it would be a convenient issue to justify him pulling the plug and so it transpires. Don't forget in the context we had the Marquis money in instalments, Whiteman's transfer fee and the legacy of reaching the 5th round in the FA Cup the season before Covid struck. I lay the blame for our demise, for witnessing a 0-5 humiliation against Rotherham at home, at the feet of the benefactor who chose to pull the plug and left us significantly under resourced on the pitch as well as rookie managers appointed aligned to replacing the likes of Whiteman with Bogle and Bostock, i lay the blame ultimately with the owners, so Blunt as Chairman and Bramall as owner and so called benefactor, so i'm for change, complete change ultimately after 10 years of failure. I was thinking earlier since Autumn 2013 when JR resigned, we have had 1 bounce back promotion and 3 relegations, time for change. Ultimately it doesn't matter what i think anyway i don't have any say nor do the masses of our diehard fans or season ticket holders, we just vent after more disappointment and pray for change and better times ahead. But for me, the whole lot can go, and the sooner the better. You are not going to change my mind on that so let's agree to disagree.

Yeah you've managed to turn the fact that he helped us through COVID with extra funds into a negative, so I think we've hit a brick wall here. Nothing wrong with differing opinions though.

I'm not getting the flags out cos he helped us through Covid, that was his role! He owns the club and the obligations that go with it! And i am not turning anything negative, just speaking the truth, he pulled the plug, whether it be Covid or the unfortunate timing and passing of Dick Watson who was a Rovers fan, leaving him as sole benefactor, his choice to reign in his support, and that's his choice, doesn't mean we should get the flags out cos he paid a bill or two. You seem to want your cake and eat it, blame Blunt, blame the tea lady, blame the 4th rookie manager, anyone but the man who has the purse strings. So yeah i think we've hit a brick wall. You want Blunt to go, then what? Still no more money or investment coming into the club. You want solutions where maybe there are none, but have none to give yourself. and as i said in a previous post are arguing over the head of a pin, at cross purposes, we both want Blunt out, we both agree there needs to be change.

Let's see what if any changes arise, if Blunt went, true Rovers fans with investment came in, and TB was sat in the background i couldn't give two hoots, as long as we have more investment, fresh ideas and more success on the pitch! Yes i blame Bramall as accountability starts at the top, and if he was miraculously to do a u-turn and invest again, bring new vigour with new investors into the club that would be great, but at present that hasn't happened and ultimately the decline over the last 3 seasons is at TB's door, Blunts door, the wider management team, the poor recruitment etc. We don't support Rovers and buy season tickets to help win in the community every day as TB sees his output and benefit, we do it to support our club and want pride, hope and ultimately performances and results on the pitch!

[i_ateallthepies]

It seems clear to me that they aren't going to sack Schofield this season.  They haven't sacked him thus far in spite of how bad it is and has been throughout his tenure and losing the rest of the games this season isn't getting worse than it has been it's just the same which they've been willing to accept.  So they must be satisfied that he isn't the cause of the problem.
Hard to believe I know but that's my take on it.

[Chris Black come back]

Putting aside the risible nature of the football, the point was passed probably at the Salford City game when there was no longer any realistic chance of making the play offs. That was the actual point of failure, the terrible football before, during and after is just background noise. He came in when it was entirely possible to make the play offs but didn’t deliver this.

[sedwardsdrfc]

Putting aside the risible nature of the football, the point was passed probably at the Salford City game when there was no longer any realistic chance of making the play offs. That was the actual point of failure, the terrible football before, during and after is just background noise. He came in when it was entirely possible to make the play offs but didn’t deliver this.

Didn’t just not deliver. After Salford we had 10 games to play. Looking at our points when he came it to be out of it with 10 to go is shocking.

Gary McS has kept us up this season and he was terrible. Imagine been happy to let the guy worse than him have a summer to spend the clubs money! If GM was sacked because we weren’t where we needed to be then how can DS keep his job? Doesn’t seem fair at all

[Sprotyrover]

Bramhall is a liability, I don't agree with all this Club Rovers Rubbish, Bramhall needs to put his wealthy shoulder to the cart and fund a return to the Championship not an ever downward spiral to the Evo Stick league or whatever it's called, he needs to walk away ,take his Pet monkey with him and sell the club for £1 to someone who has funds and is interested!

[DonnyOsmond]

Bramhall is a liability, I don't agree with all this Club Rovers Rubbish, Bramhall needs to put his wealthy shoulder to the cart and fund a return to the Championship not an ever downward spiral to the Evo Stick league or whatever it's called, he needs to walk away ,take his Pet monkey with him and sell the club for £1 to someone who has funds and is interested!

By Club Rovers do you mean Club Doncaster? The thing that makes us money, not makes a loss.

[EasyforDennis]

If it wasn't for Club Doncaster we really would be in the sh1t