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5 on Tour

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Re: At FT I stayed behind….
« Reply #30 on April 01, 2023, 08:35:25 pm by 5 on Tour »
I’ve met DS and he is a genuinely nice man. He doesn’t deserve any abuse from anyone. He’s been given an opportunity to lead a team and he’s doing his best. Nobody deserves abuse for trying their best so anyone doing so is at best deluded and at worst a self important idiot.

Now with that being said - is he getting the best out of the squad? No. Is he the right person for the situation we are in? No, I don’t think so. Do we need someone with more experience of this kind of fight? Yes.

But what on this earth gives anyone the right to abuse someone for doing the job they’ve been hired to do? Anyone doing so needs to grow up and consider if they’ve always been successful in everything when they’ve tried…

Some of our fans are completely out of line.



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Goldthorperover

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Re: At FT I stayed behind….
« Reply #31 on April 01, 2023, 09:01:38 pm by Goldthorperover »
Nobody is abusing him for the laugh. The man is from doncaster and is a doncaster man. I'm sure every one of us on here wanted danny to succeed but the fact is, he isn't. Supporters want to air their disgruntlement about the state of their club what else can they do? I am not condoning any personal insults and I'm sure DS is a nice man but christ on a bike hes so far out of his depth hes looking up at the wreck of the titanic. It is time for him to gracefully step aside and please god find an experienced manager to try to halt this seemingly never ending stream of shitshow performances.

mushRTID

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Re: At FT I stayed behind….
« Reply #32 on April 01, 2023, 09:03:38 pm by mushRTID »
I sit behind the dugout and even Paul green was shaking his head

I said to my mate it would be interesting to buy a ticket behind the dugout to see what it’s like at the moment.

I mean I know it’s not going to be great, but is Schofield getting much stick?

Pliskin

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Re: At FT I stayed behind….
« Reply #33 on April 01, 2023, 09:23:22 pm by Pliskin »
He seems like a decent bloke, local guy as well, who initially seemed to have the right idea. I don't like to see him pelted with abuse and I feel sorry for him. I really wanted him to be good.

However I do think that his approach to football management comes across as incredibly misguided at the moment and I just don't see how it can be made to work unless all the stars align. I just don't get it anymore. It's high-risk, no-reward rubbish, and completely self-defeating.

The number of decent people who have been chewed up and spat out from this club over the last few years isn't nice to think about. Butler, McSheffrey, probably Schofield, maybe Copps in future, and all the assistant coaches. I blame the people who keep putting these guys into roles that they clearly aren't suited to. Why do we keep doing this?

StocksArmy

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Re: At FT I stayed behind….
« Reply #34 on April 01, 2023, 09:27:34 pm by StocksArmy »
Stop going. Simple as that just stop going. It doesnt make you less of a supporter if you call it a day. I think it makes you more of an idiot than a supporter if you do go. Support something that is heading in the direction you want it to go in. If not then whats the point? Blunt out.

You're quite legitimately frustrated, as pretty much every fan is. But directing that frustration at fellow fans, who are also hurting, is just completely destructive. Surely you can see that.
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Stop going. Simple as that just stop going. It doesnt make you less of a supporter if you call it a day. I think it makes you more of an idiot than a supporter if you do go. Support something that is heading in the direction you want it to go in. If not then whats the point? Blunt out.

You're quite legitimately frustrated, as pretty much every fan is. But directing that frustration at fellow fans, who are also hurting, is just completely destructive. Surely you can see that.

I just wont be putting my money towards this club until it shows supporters that they are ambitious again. I do not see the point anymore. For over 25 years i have watched this club whether we have been successful, competative or sh!t. I have fallen out with my wife having spent hard earned money supporting the club and it spoil my weekend, and for what? It isnt happening anymore. I love this club but because I dont pay my money to watch them makes me no less of a supporter than anybody here. My entrance fees will not ever be the difference between success and failure. If people cant take the "you are more of an idiot" comment as though im talking to a mate down the pub then thats their problem. There is a big difference between a flippant "you are an idot" and.. "you are an actual fu£%ing idiot"

tyke1962

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Re: At FT I stayed behind….
« Reply #35 on April 01, 2023, 09:38:17 pm by tyke1962 »
I’ve met DS and he is a genuinely nice man. He doesn’t deserve any abuse from anyone. He’s been given an opportunity to lead a team and he’s doing his best. Nobody deserves abuse for trying their best so anyone doing so is at best deluded and at worst a self important idiot.

Now with that being said - is he getting the best out of the squad? No. Is he the right person for the situation we are in? No, I don’t think so. Do we need someone with more experience of this kind of fight? Yes.

But what on this earth gives anyone the right to abuse someone for doing the job they’ve been hired to do? Anyone doing so needs to grow up and consider if they’ve always been successful in everything when they’ve tried…

Some of our fans are completely out of line.

He's meant to be respected not liked .

The very best managers aren't liked , Fergie wasn't a nice guy and neither was George Graham at Arsenal , the players hated him but respected him and the trophies they won under him .

You can't make omelettes without cracking eggs .

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: At FT I stayed behind….
« Reply #36 on April 01, 2023, 09:43:29 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
He seems like a decent bloke, local guy as well, who initially seemed to have the right idea. I don't like to see him pelted with abuse and I feel sorry for him. I really wanted him to be good.

However I do think that his approach to football management comes across as incredibly misguided at the moment and I just don't see how it can be made to work unless all the stars align. I just don't get it anymore. It's high-risk, no-reward rubbish, and completely self-defeating.

The number of decent people who have been chewed up and spat out from this club over the last few years isn't nice to think about. Butler, McSheffrey, probably Schofield, maybe Copps in future, and all the assistant coaches. I blame the people who keep putting these guys into roles that they clearly aren't suited to. Why do we keep doing this?

So many good football people chewed up and spat out like you say. It gutted me the way it ended with Butler. McSheffery was doing a decent job in the younger age groups by all accounts and clearly was very happy. Now Schofield is going to be lucky to get a job in senior football again a long with the others.

All of them could have ended up been decent managers but it’s always been too soon and with a us on a prolonged slide. We’ve obviously needs some experience and pragmatism. Should have let the like of Butler and GM learnt their trade and then when on a better footing let them have a go.

Hope we finally learn and don’t just give it Paul Green when DS finally goes. No need to ruin any coaching career he might have

Chris Black come back

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Re: At FT I stayed behind….
« Reply #37 on April 01, 2023, 10:06:41 pm by Chris Black come back »
He's been given the cumulative failures of half a dozen previous transfer windows to try and sort out, so no wonder he has struggled with the lads he has with him now. He was only able to make limited progress in January as almost all the budget was committed on players signed by other managers, who haven't set the world alight shall we say.

That said, the longer he has been here, the worse the performances and results have been. The Grimsby Town game away was not only his high point, but also totally unlike pretty much every game he has overseen. It's almost like he has ironed out the attacking intent from that game. As a result Miller is basically now redundant as a striker, given he is so isolated. The system he is introducing has to date been an utter disaster in terms of results, performances and the negative impact it has clearly had on the performance levels of each and every player.

tyke1962

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Re: At FT I stayed behind….
« Reply #38 on April 01, 2023, 10:11:17 pm by tyke1962 »
There isn't a trophy for Nice Guy in this game , at least one that's worth winning .

It's a dog eat dog industry and anyone going in to it should know full well of  it's demands .

It's also highly paid and a bloody mile a way from earning a living like I've done for over 40 years .

Win games you survive and have  longevity in football management .

Lose em and the game ends your career .

It's that simple really .

Harrogate Rover

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Re: At FT I stayed behind….
« Reply #39 on April 02, 2023, 12:36:35 am by Harrogate Rover »
As I exited where they playing Road to Nowhere over the tannoy?

It was Talking Heads but the song was 'Once In A Lifetime'. which was obviously a reference to how many times we've been good under Danny Schofield.

Sadly its the same as it ever was  :turd:

Sammy Chung was King

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Re: At FT I stayed behind….
« Reply #40 on April 02, 2023, 12:49:45 am by Sammy Chung was King »
The problem is losing games can’t be sustained, that is the most important part of the club. You can have finances in the black, that’s good but just being satisfied with maintaining a club isn’t enough.

If you’re going to do something do it properly or don’t bother at all. They need to take their heads of their backsides and see some daylight now and again.

Upton Rover

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Re: At FT I stayed behind….
« Reply #41 on April 02, 2023, 10:19:41 am by Upton Rover »
I’ve met DS and he is a genuinely nice man. He doesn’t deserve any abuse from anyone. He’s been given an opportunity to lead a team and he’s doing his best. Nobody deserves abuse for trying their best so anyone doing so is at best deluded and at worst a self important idiot.

Now with that being said - is he getting the best out of the squad? No. Is he the right person for the situation we are in? No, I don’t think so. Do we need someone with more experience of this kind of fight? Yes.

But what on this earth gives anyone the right to abuse someone for doing the job they’ve been hired to do? Anyone doing so needs to grow up and consider if they’ve always been successful in everything when they’ve tried…

Some of our fans are completely out of line.
If you pay your good earned money and in return are given this garbage week in week out every individual has a right to an option and that’s what they are expressing, there’s no abuse to anyone, just constructive criticism that some people at the club rightly deserve

donnybez

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Re: At FT I stayed behind….
« Reply #42 on April 02, 2023, 11:10:14 am by donnybez »
I do feel bad for DS as it's obvious he's very much out of his depth...

BUT the pigheaded arrogance of ridgedly sticking to a system despite it obviously failing, with players who aren't capable of fulfilling it is killing us.

To the board and Copps - get your heads out of whereever you've shoved them, stop dictating to the market of the type of tactics you want, and chuffing hire someone whose *pragmatic* and able to utilise the resources to maximum effect!

wilts rover

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Re: At FT I stayed behind….
« Reply #43 on April 02, 2023, 11:34:38 am by wilts rover »
He's been given the cumulative failures of half a dozen previous transfer windows to try and sort out, so no wonder he has struggled with the lads he has with him now. He was only able to make limited progress in January as almost all the budget was committed on players signed by other managers, who haven't set the world alight shall we say.

That said, the longer he has been here, the worse the performances and results have been. The Grimsby Town game away was not only his high point, but also totally unlike pretty much every game he has overseen. It's almost like he has ironed out the attacking intent from that game. As a result Miller is basically now redundant as a striker, given he is so isolated. The system he is introducing has to date been an utter disaster in terms of results, performances and the negative impact it has clearly had on the performance levels of each and every player.

They were excellent against Swindon away, when you could see exactly what his plan was, and very good at Sutton away. Those were probably the high points, results & performances have certainly gone downhill from that game.

i_ateallthepies

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Re: At FT I stayed behind….
« Reply #44 on April 02, 2023, 12:50:44 pm by i_ateallthepies »
Then perhaps, wilts what you saw wasn't HIS plan at all but just the team doing what it knew before he messed with their heads.

wilts rover

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« Reply #45 on April 02, 2023, 06:01:06 pm by wilts rover »
Then perhaps, wilts what you saw wasn't HIS plan at all but just the team doing what it knew before he messed with their heads.

If you say so pies. Would that include the 3 (4 when Lavery came on) January recruits who were playing too?

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Re: At FT I stayed behind….
« Reply #46 on April 02, 2023, 06:33:31 pm by ncRover »
Wilts these players are to suited to playing on the counter. That was the obvious play v Swindon who play similar sideways tappy stuff to us.

Schofield hasn’t had them playing to their strengths since

 

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