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Donnyjim

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Blunt, Bramall and Baldwin…
« on April 01, 2023, 06:45:52 pm by Donnyjim »
Thanks for the cash injection, but please think strongly about selling?
« Last Edit: April 06, 2023, 09:26:30 pm by Donnyjim »



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In the box

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Re: Blunt, Bramall and Baldwin…
« Reply #1 on April 02, 2023, 01:48:51 pm by In the box »
It’s a sad day when we wish away those who put their cash into the club .. But I have to ask Are we going the same way as
Oldham
Notts county
Southend
Scunthorpe
Chesterfield
Halifax
York City
and loosing the ability within our club to compete and EFL level
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Re: Blunt, Bramall and Baldwin…
« Reply #2 on April 05, 2023, 06:57:55 pm by selby »
  There are a few fools on here who underestimate just what those three have done for the club, yes we are having a bad time of it, but basically it is the football people who have misused especially Mr Bramall's money who are to blame for our present predicament, not the board and especially Gavin Baldwin who works his socks off and would be snapped up by other clubs if ever to leave here.
  Manchester United and now Liverpool and Chelsea are finding out splashing money in this game cannot beat good football knowledge as Brighton are demonstrating with Brentford being competitive on buttons comparatively to their spending power.
  And don't for one minute underestimate Mr Bramall he is one tough cookie, and when he makes his mind up is used to things happening the way he wants it to, and failure is not  an option.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2023, 07:20:12 pm by selby »

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Re: Blunt, Bramall and Baldwin…
« Reply #3 on April 05, 2023, 07:06:47 pm by bobbymax »
Get out of our club….sing a long guys at the next game, it has a ring to it.
The latter pair have pretty much kept the club afloat for years. I'm unsure about Mr Blunt's overall contribution but to generalise just makes you sound like a d*ckhead!

selby

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Re: Blunt, Bramall and Baldwin…
« Reply #4 on April 05, 2023, 07:40:16 pm by selby »
  Donnyjim, don't confuse yourself, you are just a hanger on, your not in a position to  tell the owners to get out of the club, they actually own it because they fund it.
  Now if you can find the required money to buy them out that's different, but if your just a rag arse without two half pennies to scratch your backside with I don't think your wants will hold much sway.

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Re: Blunt, Bramall and Baldwin…
« Reply #5 on April 05, 2023, 07:43:18 pm by DearneValleyRover »
Get out of our club….sing a long guys at the next game, it has a ring to it.

Without Gavin we would be in a far worse mess than we are, he’s been the one bright light in our demise, if anything he’s been too god at his job allowing our so called chairman to slither away, Terry has taken his eye off the ball but I’m sure that will be addressed but by all means don’t be blunt in giving abuse to our so called chairman

Alan Southstand

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Re: Blunt, Bramall and Baldwin…
« Reply #6 on April 05, 2023, 07:57:27 pm by Alan Southstand »
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And don’t for one minute underestimate Mr Bramall he is one tough cookie, and when he makes his mind up is used to things happening the way he wants it to, and failure is not  an option.

If that is 100% true, Selby, then where has TB been these last 3 years?

In truth, I would imagine, he put Mr Blunt into the Chairman’s role because he thought he’d do a good job and trusted him! Is that still the case? Can you, hand on heart, actually believe TB is happy the way things have been going? And, if the answer is no, then why hasn’t this decline been nipped in the bud some time ago? Has his trust been misplaced?


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« Reply #7 on April 05, 2023, 08:34:51 pm by normal rules »
Wanting these three out is the equivalent of Ukrainians saying they don’t need Western help anymore.
And it’s disrespectful on a different level.
Has identification of managers and players been poor, yes.
Has money been wasted, absolutely.
But do they deserve to be lambasted? Not in my opinion.
Some need to be very very careful about what they wish for.

Donny Exile in York

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Re: Blunt, Bramall and Baldwin…
« Reply #8 on April 05, 2023, 08:43:41 pm by Donny Exile in York »
Wanting these three out is the equivalent of Ukrainians saying they don’t need Western help anymore.
And it’s disrespectful on a different level.
Has identification of managers and players been poor, yes.
Has money been wasted, absolutely.
But do they deserve to be lambasted? Not in my opinion.
Some need to be very very careful about what they wish for.


I'm sick of reading this diretribe.. absolute twaddle. Since 2013 we have have one bounce back promotion courtesy of Ferguson and three relegations. I for one would take our chances with new owners than the stale, tired, unambitious, tight, spin merchants we currently have. Am fed up of this fear factor garbage.. I certainly didn't wish for this tight unambitious ponderous board who take a month to appoint rookie managers, oversee farcical recruitment of managers and players, have made our kits, programmes and stadium service of Lower quality, who ask managers to spin the budget, who removed transparency of financial reporting, who had led to 2-3 of the worst seasons results wise in living memory, I certainly didn't wish for what they have overseen and delivered!

We have no debt apparently, a great stadium which has a very low rental cost, a great fan base and the positive vibe of city status.. I'd rather take my chances with new owners and this ground than the slow stagnating death under this lot. They've had their time and 5 year plans. Hope they put the club officially up for sale and invite bids. The lack of season tickets and attendances next season will show the fan base feeling about our future under this lot if not. For starters Blunt needs to go ASAP. Presided over failure.
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Re: Blunt, Bramall and Baldwin…
« Reply #9 on April 05, 2023, 08:50:48 pm by roversdude »
DEIY are you putting a bid in ?

Goole Rover

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Re: Blunt, Bramall and Baldwin…
« Reply #10 on April 05, 2023, 08:51:26 pm by Goole Rover »
Get out of our club….sing a long guys at the next game, it has a ring to it.
That's the easy way to vent your feelings, you and I simply don't understand the possible consequences if they went. Pie in the sky. 

Donny Exile in York

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« Reply #11 on April 05, 2023, 09:05:08 pm by Donny Exile in York »

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Re: Blunt, Bramall and Baldwin…
« Reply #12 on April 05, 2023, 09:07:11 pm by Upton Rover »
Wanting these three out is the equivalent of Ukrainians saying they don’t need Western help anymore.
And it’s disrespectful on a different level.
Has identification of managers and players been poor, yes.
Has money been wasted, absolutely.
But do they deserve to be lambasted? Not in my opinion.
Some need to be very very careful about what they wish for.
No one’s wishing? Just hopeful of a change, because this lot on the board have gone stale, no communication with fans, other than the same boring old meet the owners night, that are staged and only answer what they want, and what they say isn’t true, that’s a proven fact.

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Re: Blunt, Bramall and Baldwin…
« Reply #13 on April 05, 2023, 09:22:45 pm by BigKeif »
Wanting these three out is the equivalent of Ukrainians saying they don’t need Western help anymore.
And it’s disrespectful on a different level.
Has identification of managers and players been poor, yes.
Has money been wasted, absolutely.
But do they deserve to be lambasted? Not in my opinion.
Some need to be very very careful about what they wish for.

The chairman and the chairman alone is mostly responsible for all of this mess and deserves lambasting for it all! If he doesn’t like it, then he shouldn’t be the chairman!

selby

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Re: Blunt, Bramall and Baldwin…
« Reply #14 on April 05, 2023, 09:27:28 pm by selby »
  Alan, the man by his own admission knows very little about football and originally had this vision with his business partners to push his own town football side forward while the experts used his money to do so.
  Unfortunately the experts have not been so expert with his money on the field of play, the rest of the vision the academies for both girls and boys, the ground and stadium and the training facilities are doing well, and the overall monies raised off the field of play overseen by Gavin and the board can be seen as a success.
  Mr Bramall is firstly a business man, hard and shrewd and now he has been brought into the lime light so to speak my guess is he will get fed up of second best and when he does we will know about it, and so will some who think this club is an easy touch.
  He might be a good age but in my experience older people do not change their spots, in fact get more cantankerous and in some cases ambitious.

Donny Exile in York

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Re: Blunt, Bramall and Baldwin…
« Reply #15 on April 05, 2023, 10:25:49 pm by Donny Exile in York »
Why has my last post been deleted.here? The truth been sensored now?  Not right removing posts which highlight the.perpetual decline of the club and defend the indefensible strategies of the Board under the fear factor guise of becareful what you wish for and at least we have a club... sums it all up really...
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Alan Southstand

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Re: Blunt, Bramall and Baldwin…
« Reply #16 on April 05, 2023, 10:29:49 pm by Alan Southstand »
Selby, I hate to break it to you, but none of the 3 know little about football - maybe GB apart, but he’s been learning on the job.

We do have people at the Club who have been appointed for the very reason that they are ‘football people’.

There’s a much bigger problem at play than just a lack of knowledge of football in TB’s case. There has been, imho, an acute lack of investment in the football squad over a good period of time. There’s personality issues, there’s a severe lack of communication (both speaking and listening). Decision making has been woeful. I could go on, but it’s not me that needs to get to the bottom of it - it’s the men/man at the top and thereby lies another problem - being able to take responsibility.

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« Reply #17 on April 06, 2023, 09:52:08 am by selby »
  Alan, you can't break anything to me, what you have got to get into your head is that the first team is not the be all and end all of Doncaster Rovers, it is the face of Doncaster Rovers to the rest of the world, and is the part of the club that it is judged on and fair enough, nobody wants that part of the club to do well more than myself.
  But it is the part of the club that loses money, on its own it it would probably not exist as a football league club because even when fairly successful it lost vast amounts of money as a single entity, and that has been amplified by that part of the club being badly run by the football people who have had the football equivalent of utopia, a board that doesn't involve itself in football matters because of their admitted lack of knowledge so the football people have been left to run the football side of the club, and made a complete mess of it, while other clubs with less money have built sides to leave us behind.
   How many managers in football have left themselves, or have said they have left because of boardroom intervention? well you can't have it both ways and the football people at this club in charge of first team matters, and I include the now HOF carry the can as far as I am concerned and need to get real and work to put things right on and off the field of play that is their job, and project the rest of the club to the wider audience, it would make the already successful parts of club Doncaster's job a lot easier if they were not so dependant on them.

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« Reply #18 on April 06, 2023, 12:14:56 pm by selby »
  Well I thought he would get fed up, now you know, and no doubt Danny has had a meeting with some pressure now on his shoulders, looks like the free hits are finished.
   Failure no longer an option.

Alan Southstand

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« Reply #19 on April 06, 2023, 01:43:29 pm by Alan Southstand »
Again, Selby, we all know that (probably) 80% of EFL Clubs are losing money on an annual basis. DRFC do not stand alone on that one, but some lose less than others.

TB has, at long last, put out a statement, but what does it say? More funds for next season (non specific) and not much else. I don’t want to pour cold water on the announcement, but there is very little, if any, acknowledgment that things have been going badly wrong, nor where they’ve been wrong and how they’ll be put right.

It’s a welcome, somewhat positive statement but it’s left me wanting more!

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Re: Blunt, Bramall and Baldwin…
« Reply #20 on April 06, 2023, 08:49:17 pm by German Rover »
David Blunt was a Professional  Footballer who played in the football league. I'd safely say he knows more about.football than the vast majority of us on here

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« Reply #21 on April 06, 2023, 09:02:12 pm by Spud »
Are you still singing it next game Jim?

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« Reply #22 on April 06, 2023, 09:53:24 pm by Campsall rover »
David Blunt was a Professional  Footballer who played in the football league. I'd safely say he knows more about.football than the vast majority of us on here
Well if he does.
I will leave the rest as blanks ……………………………………and someone else can fill the spaces.

Donny Exile in York

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Re: Blunt, Bramall and Baldwin…
« Reply #23 on April 06, 2023, 10:11:13 pm by Donny Exile in York »
David Blunt was a Professional  Footballer who played in the football league. I'd safely say he knows more about.football than the vast majority of us on here

Exactly why? Back in the 60s. So all professional footballers make good managers or Chairman? He played twice for a crap team. Justin Sumner  or James Merea played more for Rovers doesn't mean to say either would be a good Chairman or know football inside out. Or for example the Esdaille brothers or Cedric Evina... all played more times in the footnall league.. means nothing. 2 football league games 50 odd years ago are not credentials..
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« Reply #24 on April 06, 2023, 10:29:42 pm by scawsby steve »
David Blunt was a Professional  Footballer who played in the football league. I'd safely say he knows more about.football than the vast majority of us on here

Exactly why? Back in the 60s. So all professional footballers make good managers or Chairman? He played twice for a crap team. Justin Sumner  or James Merea played more for Rovers doesn't mean to say either would be a good Chairman or know football inside out. Or for example the Esdaille brothers or Cedric Evina... all played more times in the footnall league.. means nothing. 2 football league games 50 odd years ago are not credentials..

Good post, DEIY. One of the greatest players in the world, Sir Bobby Charlton, took up management at Preston, and looked like he didn't know the first thing about football.

Donny Exile in York

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« Reply #25 on April 06, 2023, 10:39:58 pm by Donny Exile in York »
I've heard a rumour Blunt is based in Rotherham and wouldn't be surprised to hear his past allegiances are also with our local rivals. The sooner he goes and we remove a cancer from our Club the better. For some reason we managed to replace a Rovers fan through and through a decade ago after 15 years of growth and unprecedented success (one of two of the best periods in our history no dioubt) with someone who  resembles Ken Richardson and has overseen a period of decline, reduced investment, spin and poor recruitment of managers and players. Time to go.
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« Reply #26 on April 06, 2023, 10:56:25 pm by Campsall rover »
I've heard a rumour Blunt is based in Rotherham and wouldn't be surprised to hear his past allegiances are also with our local rivals. The sooner he goes and we remove a cancer from our Club the better. For some reason we managed to replace a Rovers fan through and through a decade ago after 15 years of growth with someone who  resembles Ken Richardson and has overseen a period of decline, reduced investment, spin and poor recruitment of managers and players. Time to go.
Think comparisons with KR are unjustified. He was a crook.
He almost single handily destroyed our Football Club. Well he actually did destroy it.
If JR hadn’t turned up then Scunthorpe’s current predicament would look like a success story.

Donny Exile in York

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Re: Blunt, Bramall and Baldwin…
« Reply #27 on April 06, 2023, 11:53:37 pm by Donny Exile in York »
I've heard a rumour Blunt is based in Rotherham and wouldn't be surprised to hear his past allegiances are also with our local rivals. The sooner he goes and we remove a cancer from our Club the better. For some reason we managed to replace a Rovers fan through and through a decade ago after 15 years of growth with someone who  resembles Ken Richardson and has overseen a period of decline, reduced investment, spin and poor recruitment of managers and players. Time to go.
Think comparisons with KR are unjustified. He was a crook.
He almost single handily destroyed our Football Club. Well he actually did destroy it.
If JR hadn’t turned up then Scunthorpe’s current predicament would look like a success story.


I was referring physically.. he looks a bit like him.. for all I want Blunt out he is not a patch on Ken Richardson, the worst Chairman we have ever had and on a par with Reynolds at Darlington, the guy who bought Bury for a £1, Steve Dale, and a few others clubs have the misfortune to have owners like them over the years..

 

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