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Filo

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #60 on April 06, 2023, 03:30:33 pm by Filo »
Damned if they do Damned if they don’t, reading some of this stuff is unbelievable, it really is. Like anything else the proof is in the pudding, you have to eat the pudding first though!



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silent majority

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #61 on April 06, 2023, 03:39:56 pm by silent majority »
Some people on here.

"Do you want a 99 with sauce son?"

"No f**k off if you're not going to give me exactly the number of sprinkle I want."

And why didn't you buy me one yesterday, you t**t?

Also:

"Why isn't Brammall spending his money?"

"Why is Brammall spending his money?'

Don't forget the one that's run through this entire thread: 'I don't believe that Bramall is going to spend any money even when he's telling us he's going to'.



Yeah because maybe every single thing that has come out of that boardroom has been a total lie for the last 5 years. You can walk around with your hands over your eyes if you want too and believe the 'in the know' people on this forum, I choose not too. Once bitten twice shy. In fact fifteen times bitten....

Would you mind telling me when was the last time that TB made a statement like this, and actually lied to you as well?

Easy to throw mud, much harder to back that up.

Upton Rover

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #62 on April 06, 2023, 03:40:21 pm by Upton Rover »
This initially sounds like positive news for once .
But, and it’s a massive but, there has to be a big clear out come season end and a very very positive recruitment of players that can cut it at this level and then some , and then they have to adopt DS process and it has to be successful . The board have nailed their colours to the mast . Talk of promotion push is what we want to hear. The proof will be in the pudding though. 10 games in next season and little change from where we are now and there will be a shitstorm .That’s quite a few planets that need to align .
Smoke screen

Campsall rover

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #63 on April 06, 2023, 03:40:33 pm by Campsall rover »
Just got in to see this statement.

Very long overdue and much needed. Pleased it has come from TB himself.
Not much from Blunt but at least he has managed a few words.

The massive worry is ( as posted on other thread ) is this coach is not capable of coaching or managing a team to get consistent positive results in League 2 ( or anywhere else probably )
Does not matter who we sign unless we play attacking football with a high tempo & add physicality to the team. Without that then forget promotion.

Hope I am proved utterly wrong and we are top 3 come end of October but my fear is we will at best be where we are now or even considerably worse.
DS will then be sacked and we start all over again probably completely wasting yet another season due to either playing catch up or even fighting against the big trap door to non league football.

Get rid of DS get an experienced proven manager age 45 to 55 preferably with success on his CV give him a top 5 budget and then I will believe we can get out of this league next season.
Top 3 yes with the right manager and we will probably not need the play offs.

Right now the top 7 is fantasy with DS at the helm. Top 3 budget won’t be enough unless he has a complete re think on how he is going to get the team to play.
Is he capable of changing? 

« Last Edit: April 06, 2023, 03:47:52 pm by Campsall rover »

Upton Rover

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #64 on April 06, 2023, 03:43:10 pm by Upton Rover »
Some people on here.

"Do you want a 99 with sauce son?"

"No f**k off if you're not going to give me exactly the number of sprinkle I want."

And why didn't you buy me one yesterday, you t**t?

Also:

"Why isn't Brammall spending his money?"

"Why is Brammall spending his money?'

Don't forget the one that's run through this entire thread: 'I don't believe that Bramall is going to spend any money even when he's telling us he's going to'.



Yeah because maybe every single thing that has come out of that boardroom has been a total lie for the last 5 years. You can walk around with your hands over your eyes if you want too and believe the 'in the know' people on this forum, I choose not too. Once bitten twice shy. In fact fifteen times bitten....

Would you mind telling me when was the last time that TB made a statement like this, and actually lied to you as well?

Easy to throw mud, much harder to back that up.
Why would he make this statement now? To me it’s a smoke screen, to try settle fans down, to try bolster season ticket sales, to get fans on the first team coach side, big big massive smoke screen, don’t be fooled

Cramby10

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #65 on April 06, 2023, 03:44:48 pm by Cramby10 »
Spot on again CR. Money won’t make a blind bit of difference to this hapless halfwit.
I think a lot of the anger on here is aimed at the retention of him. They’d have been better not saying anything at all about that.
Or better still just sack him. Season tickets would’ve gone through the roof if they had.

GazLaz

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #66 on April 06, 2023, 03:46:30 pm by GazLaz »
Why make an announcement like this??

Upton Rover

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #67 on April 06, 2023, 03:46:58 pm by Upton Rover »
Damned if they do Damned if they don’t, reading some of this stuff is unbelievable, it really is. Like anything else the proof is in the pudding, you have to eat the pudding first though!
We get told this season after season, so you think with this statement we all have to put the past 2 seasons behind us, and say WOW great, don’t be fooled

silent majority

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #68 on April 06, 2023, 03:47:38 pm by silent majority »
Some people on here.

"Do you want a 99 with sauce son?"

"No f**k off if you're not going to give me exactly the number of sprinkle I want."

And why didn't you buy me one yesterday, you t**t?

Also:

"Why isn't Brammall spending his money?"

"Why is Brammall spending his money?'

Don't forget the one that's run through this entire thread: 'I don't believe that Bramall is going to spend any money even when he's telling us he's going to'.



Yeah because maybe every single thing that has come out of that boardroom has been a total lie for the last 5 years. You can walk around with your hands over your eyes if you want too and believe the 'in the know' people on this forum, I choose not too. Once bitten twice shy. In fact fifteen times bitten....

Would you mind telling me when was the last time that TB made a statement like this, and actually lied to you as well?

Easy to throw mud, much harder to back that up.
Why would he make this statement now? To me it’s a smoke screen, to try settle fans down, to try bolster season ticket sales, to get fans on the first team coach side, big big massive smoke screen, don’t be fooled

That wasn't my point though was it?

And, the timing has come about in an answer I gave earlier, which is making an announcement earlier would have been too soon and would have undermined the work of DS/JC.

And a further point is that TB has stated he's boosting the playing budget, that means growing the budget; a budget which is set irrelevant of the season ticket sales or commercial activities.

Some people.

selby

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #69 on April 06, 2023, 03:50:13 pm by selby »
 Failure is not an option for Danny now, simple as that. We will now see just what he is all about and it might even be tomorrow he is not messing with the messenger  now.
   If I know anything about Mr Bramall it is that he does not spend money and expect nothing in return, I bet everyone is now fully informed of what is expected of them.

Upton Rover

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #70 on April 06, 2023, 03:51:19 pm by Upton Rover »
Some people on here.

"Do you want a 99 with sauce son?"

"No f**k off if you're not going to give me exactly the number of sprinkle I want."

And why didn't you buy me one yesterday, you t**t?

Also:

"Why isn't Brammall spending his money?"

"Why is Brammall spending his money?'

Don't forget the one that's run through this entire thread: 'I don't believe that Bramall is going to spend any money even when he's telling us he's going to'.



Yeah because maybe every single thing that has come out of that boardroom has been a total lie for the last 5 years. You can walk around with your hands over your eyes if you want too and believe the 'in the know' people on this forum, I choose not too. Once bitten twice shy. In fact fifteen times bitten....

Would you mind telling me when was the last time that TB made a statement like this, and actually lied to you as well?

Easy to throw mud, much harder to back that up.
Why would he make this statement now? To me it’s a smoke screen, to try settle fans down, to try bolster season ticket sales, to get fans on the first team coach side, big big massive smoke screen, don’t be fooled

That wasn't my point though was it?

And, the timing has come about in an answer I gave earlier, which is making an announcement earlier would have been too soon and would have undermined the work of DS/JC.

And a further point is that TB has stated he's boosting the playing budget, that means growing the budget; a budget which is set irrelevant of the season ticket sales or commercial activities.

Some people.
Yes some people are easily fooled, others aren’t

grayx

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #71 on April 06, 2023, 03:52:24 pm by grayx »
I think the difference this time is it's Terry himself that has said it not Gavin, hopefully this gives everybody a welcome boost. I haven't yet renewed my season ticket I will wait until I see where the funds go.

Very wise.

silent majority

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #72 on April 06, 2023, 03:54:59 pm by silent majority »
Some people on here.

"Do you want a 99 with sauce son?"

"No f**k off if you're not going to give me exactly the number of sprinkle I want."

And why didn't you buy me one yesterday, you t**t?

Also:

"Why isn't Brammall spending his money?"

"Why is Brammall spending his money?'

Don't forget the one that's run through this entire thread: 'I don't believe that Bramall is going to spend any money even when he's telling us he's going to'.



Yeah because maybe every single thing that has come out of that boardroom has been a total lie for the last 5 years. You can walk around with your hands over your eyes if you want too and believe the 'in the know' people on this forum, I choose not too. Once bitten twice shy. In fact fifteen times bitten....

Would you mind telling me when was the last time that TB made a statement like this, and actually lied to you as well?

Easy to throw mud, much harder to back that up.
Why would he make this statement now? To me it’s a smoke screen, to try settle fans down, to try bolster season ticket sales, to get fans on the first team coach side, big big massive smoke screen, don’t be fooled

That wasn't my point though was it?

And, the timing has come about in an answer I gave earlier, which is making an announcement earlier would have been too soon and would have undermined the work of DS/JC.

And a further point is that TB has stated he's boosting the playing budget, that means growing the budget; a budget which is set irrelevant of the season ticket sales or commercial activities.

Some people.
Yes some people are easily fooled, others aren’t

Not fooled, some of us have a better understanding of what it takes to run a football club, others just type out negative bile on a football forum.

Upton Rover

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #73 on April 06, 2023, 03:55:46 pm by Upton Rover »
I think the difference this time is it's Terry himself that has said it not Gavin, hopefully this gives everybody a welcome boost. I haven't yet renewed my season ticket I will wait until I see where the funds go.

Very wise.
I think if the statement read, I want this coach to win all of our last 7 games to give us 73points and a chance of a play off place, or he will be sacked, there would be a lot more respect and season ticket sales

Cramby10

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #74 on April 06, 2023, 03:56:15 pm by Cramby10 »
Some people on here.

"Do you want a 99 with sauce son?"

"No f**k off if you're not going to give me exactly the number of sprinkle I want."

And why didn't you buy me one yesterday, you t**t?

Also:

"Why isn't Brammall spending his money?"

"Why is Brammall spending his money?'

Don't forget the one that's run through this entire thread: 'I don't believe that Bramall is going to spend any money even when he's telling us he's going to'.



Yeah because maybe every single thing that has come out of that boardroom has been a total lie for the last 5 years. You can walk around with your hands over your eyes if you want too and believe the 'in the know' people on this forum, I choose not too. Once bitten twice shy. In fact fifteen times bitten....

Would you mind telling me when was the last time that TB made a statement like this, and actually lied to you as well?

Easy to throw mud, much harder to back that up.
Why would he make this statement now? To me it’s a smoke screen, to try settle fans down, to try bolster season ticket sales, to get fans on the first team coach side, big big massive smoke screen, don’t be fooled

That wasn't my point though was it?

And, the timing has come about in an answer I gave earlier, which is making an announcement earlier would have been too soon and would have undermined the work of DS/JC.

And a further point is that TB has stated he's boosting the playing budget, that means growing the budget; a budget which is set irrelevant of the season ticket sales or commercial activities.

Some people.

what work is it that JC and DS are doing? Pray tell. Can’t see any evidence of anything on show. It’s frankly unfathomable how he’s clung on to his job!

dickos1

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #75 on April 06, 2023, 03:59:56 pm by dickos1 »
We could have Ronaldo and Messi in their prime, and DS would still only play one of them up front on their own?

Number of strikers isn’t the problem, most of the best sides in the country and Europe play with one striker

Upton Rover

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #76 on April 06, 2023, 04:01:17 pm by Upton Rover »
Some people on here.

"Do you want a 99 with sauce son?"

"No f**k off if you're not going to give me exactly the number of sprinkle I want."

And why didn't you buy me one yesterday, you t**t?

Also:

"Why isn't Brammall spending his money?"

"Why is Brammall spending his money?'

Don't forget the one that's run through this entire thread: 'I don't believe that Bramall is going to spend any money even when he's telling us he's going to'.



Yeah because maybe every single thing that has come out of that boardroom has been a total lie for the last 5 years. You can walk around with your hands over your eyes if you want too and believe the 'in the know' people on this forum, I choose not too. Once bitten twice shy. In fact fifteen times bitten....

Would you mind telling me when was the last time that TB made a statement like this, and actually lied to you as well?

Easy to throw mud, much harder to back that up.
Why would he make this statement now? To me it’s a smoke screen, to try settle fans down, to try bolster season ticket sales, to get fans on the first team coach side, big big massive smoke screen, don’t be fooled

That wasn't my point though was it?

And, the timing has come about in an answer I gave earlier, which is making an announcement earlier would have been too soon and would have undermined the work of DS/JC.

And a further point is that TB has stated he's boosting the playing budget, that means growing the budget; a budget which is set irrelevant of the season ticket sales or commercial activities.

Some people.
Yes some people are easily fooled, others aren’t

Not fooled, some of us have a better understanding of what it takes to run a football club, others just type out negative bile on a football forum.
Whatever, unsure what you mean by negative bile? I have seen some negative post from yourself and thought you we’re beginning to understand we’re fans were coming from with their negativity, Please tell me what other football club do you know that makes a statement about funding budgets this time in the season? It’s saying they have given up on this tinpot coach, when it would be more appropriate if they said if he doesn’t win our last 7 games he’s out, people are easily pleased

lee.j09

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #77 on April 06, 2023, 04:03:17 pm by lee.j09 »
Some people on here.

"Do you want a 99 with sauce son?"

"No f**k off if you're not going to give me exactly the number of sprinkle I want."

And why didn't you buy me one yesterday, you t**t?

Also:

"Why isn't Brammall spending his money?"

"Why is Brammall spending his money?'

Don't forget the one that's run through this entire thread: 'I don't believe that Bramall is going to spend any money even when he's telling us he's going to'.



“Budget to bounce back decisively”

Campsall rover

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #78 on April 06, 2023, 04:11:28 pm by Campsall rover »
Why make an announcement like this??
Why have you said that?

Answer is.
Because TB is going to increase the budget so his head coach can pour another wad of cash down a black hole.
Basically that’s what will happen with this lunatic in charge of the team.

Really hope I am wrong but when you have a coach who does the same thing in 30 odd games and only has success the right result in 30% of them and is boring the pants off 6.000 fans in 90% of the games then
It doesn’t look as though he is a man that’s capable of seeing the obvious.
Utter madness. So nothing personal but this is bordering on lunacy.

And we are going to stick with him. 
Oh well that will increase season ticket sales.  :facepalm:

ForsolongaRover

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #79 on April 06, 2023, 04:17:44 pm by ForsolongaRover »
This must be judged from TB’s perspective. I think it is well established that football club “owners” cannot profess anything but total faith in their head coaches/managers without risking the commitment of the players.

Senior Management at the club will nevertheless have endured the sheer power and volume of fan dissatisfaction with a great deal of discomfort.

If the slide continues as it seems likely to, despite investing money in supposedly strengthening the squad, there can be no justification for allowing them to allow either Schofield or Copps to continue in their jobs past the end of this season.

When Schofield was appointed I was shot down when I suggested that it would be useful to see job descriptions for him and Copps. The obvious answer, I was told, was that Schofield was the Coach and Copps who seemingly had a wider vision and greater “people skills” would be the de facto Manager. However, with (we are told) Schofield having a veto over the choice of player recruitment and only occasional interviews with Copps on subjects of his own choosing, Copps seems unlikely to be fulfilling the day to day manager role.

It is risky enough entrusting the style of play to Schofield, but actually placing the careers and development of members of the playing staff in his unqualified, inexperienced hands really is a severe risk. The fact that he never talks about his players as individuals or discusses their personal or physical strengths suggests, consistent with the coaching theorist, that they are little more than standard actors in a football data model. The suggestion that he needs better players to execute his process is further evidence of this apparent truth. Where do you find quality players willing to suppress their imagination individual ball-playing, tackling, shooting, passing skills in favour of the execution of a process?



BerlinRed

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #80 on April 06, 2023, 04:18:57 pm by BerlinRed »
This is very welcome, however the budget is only part of the problem.

Inexperienced and inconsistent managers, HoF appointed on name alone, and an incoherent player recruitment policy.

This. Exactly this. I will add overall fan engagement and match day experience, both of which have been let slide and contribute to what feels a never ending downward spiral. Sort the catering, follow up on initiatives (remember 'Rovers4life'?) and promises made to loyal fans and above all be transparent about where we are as a club.


Campsall rover

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #81 on April 06, 2023, 04:24:35 pm by Campsall rover »
We could have Ronaldo and Messi in their prime, and DS would still only play one of them up front on their own?

Number of strikers isn’t the problem, most of the best sides in the country and Europe play with one striker
Yes but if you’re playing 1 up front he needs some physical attributes.
We don’t have a Chris Brown in the team or a John Marquis so the system is flawed.

Anyway if you are outplayed in midfield because we have 2v3 in there, the striker or strikers will not get any service.
But that’s a bit too sensible for this coach. Not just sensible but blatantly obvious. Every manager in League 2 has got us worked out dickos. Surely you can see that.

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« Reply #82 on April 06, 2023, 04:31:28 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Some people on here.

"Do you want a 99 with sauce son?"

"No f**k off if you're not going to give me exactly the number of sprinkle I want."

And why didn't you buy me one yesterday, you t**t?

Also:

"Why isn't Brammall spending his money?"

"Why is Brammall spending his money?'

Don't forget the one that's run through this entire thread: 'I don't believe that Bramall is going to spend any money even when he's telling us he's going to'.



Yeah because maybe every single thing that has come out of that boardroom has been a total lie for the last 5 years. You can walk around with your hands over your eyes if you want too and believe the 'in the know' people on this forum, I choose not too. Once bitten twice shy. In fact fifteen times bitten....

Better they tell us nothing then, eh? Jesus wept.

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« Reply #83 on April 06, 2023, 04:33:26 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Some people on here.

"Do you want a 99 with sauce son?"

"No f**k off if you're not going to give me exactly the number of sprinkle I want."

And why didn't you buy me one yesterday, you t**t?

Also:

"Why isn't Brammall spending his money?"

"Why is Brammall spending his money?'

Don't forget the one that's run through this entire thread: 'I don't believe that Bramall is going to spend any money even when he's telling us he's going to'.



Yeah because maybe every single thing that has come out of that boardroom has been a total lie for the last 5 years. You can walk around with your hands over your eyes if you want too and believe the 'in the know' people on this forum, I choose not too. Once bitten twice shy. In fact fifteen times bitten....

Would you mind telling me when was the last time that TB made a statement like this, and actually lied to you as well?

Easy to throw mud, much harder to back that up.
Why would he make this statement now? To me it’s a smoke screen, to try settle fans down, to try bolster season ticket sales, to get fans on the first team coach side, big big massive smoke screen, don’t be fooled

How about answering the bloody question?

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #84 on April 06, 2023, 04:43:15 pm by MachoMadness »
Why make an announcement like this??
It's clearly a reaction to the fan sentiment/chants at the ground etc. The actual cash injection may not be, but the announcement of it definitely is.

Campsall rover

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« Reply #85 on April 06, 2023, 04:47:28 pm by Campsall rover »
Some people on here.

"Do you want a 99 with sauce son?"

"No f**k off if you're not going to give me exactly the number of sprinkle I want."

And why didn't you buy me one yesterday, you t**t?

Also:

"Why isn't Brammall spending his money?"

"Why is Brammall spending his money?'

Don't forget the one that's run through this entire thread: 'I don't believe that Bramall is going to spend any money even when he's telling us he's going to'.



Yeah because maybe every single thing that has come out of that boardroom has been a total lie for the last 5 years. You can walk around with your hands over your eyes if you want too and believe the 'in the know' people on this forum, I choose not too. Once bitten twice shy. In fact fifteen times bitten....

Better they tell us nothing then, eh? Jesus wept.
No we needed that statement.  Pleased it came from TB because I believe him.
I do not believe anything that comes out of DB’s mouth.

Problem is the same coach is going to be in charge. So all that lovely money is going down another dirty great big black hole.

We need a manager & an assistant manager/coach.  When I say manager I mean a Manager.
Someone who understands league 2 & League 1
Someone who understands what is required in both personnel on the field and tactics needed to create a  consistent winning football team.

Nothing will change until that is addressed. 

If Grant McCann is available then go get him. Someone at least who has got the tee shirt.
Not an another unproven youth manager. 

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« Reply #86 on April 06, 2023, 04:49:05 pm by Campsall rover »
I feel like a broken record.
I must have said the same thing a dozen times on this forum in the last 2 weeks.  :headbang:

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Re: Club statement
« Reply #87 on April 06, 2023, 04:55:33 pm by Cramby10 »
I feel like a broken record.
I must have said the same thing a dozen times on this forum in the last 2 weeks.  :headbang:
but you’re right tho lad and echo the sentiments of many of us on here. The football is there for all to see and it’s disgusting. Keep banging the drum.

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« Reply #88 on April 06, 2023, 05:12:15 pm by albie »
So DS to stay for next season;
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/danny-schofield-to-remain-as-doncaster-rovers-head-coach-for-202324-season-4095399

Er...why?
What has he done to show he will be able to manage a higher budget effectively?

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« Reply #89 on April 06, 2023, 05:21:52 pm by In the box »
So DS to stay for next season;
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/danny-schofield-to-remain-as-doncaster-rovers-head-coach-for-202324-season-4095399

Er...why?
What has he done to show he will be able to manage a higher budget effectively?
If past budgets are anything to go by , I can’t see how faith in the present incumbent management can provide assurance that his investment in the team is in safe hands .

 

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