Don't get sucked in

[oggycompton]

Title. We all want to believe it's true, we all want to have faith but just cast your mind back over the last 5 years as to the noises coming out of the club and then the actions that followed. light and day.

In the space of this season alone we've had : -

Bounce back decisively
Top half budget
Mid table budget.

Snake oil salesmen to stop the growing apathy and noises from an extremely disgruntled fanbase clearly startled at the appalling season ticket sales.

If what he said was true, why not invest in January when we were close to getting back to where he wants to be in two years' time this season?

Also, it reads as Schofield will be here to stay. Think back to the performances you've witnessed this season and just the abhorrent negative football you have witnessed with 40 yards between midfield and forwards. Do you believe that Schofield armed with a war chest can use them correctly? Can Coppinger and the staff find the players to fit this target? Evidence in recent years suggests no.

Be very careful, and don't get sucked in, we've had years of this now.

Actions...words

[Cramby10]

Had they announced this news coupled with dull Danny receiving his P45 then maybe, just maybe they may have won a whole lot more fans over. Sadly, the prospect of facing another season with our utterly hapless leader gives me shivers down my spine and will not persuade me the buy a ST again. The stadium will still be empty.

[Campsall rover]

Had they announced this news coupled with dull Danny receiving his P45 then maybe, just maybe they may have won a whole lot more fans over. Sadly, the prospect of facing another season with our utterly hapless leader gives me shivers down my spine and will not persuade me the buy a ST again. The stadium will still be empty.

I agree
Just don’t trust DS with whatever budget he gets. He is tactically incompetent from what we have seen.
Will he change?
He said he is sticking to philosophy did he not. So what will change.

Listened to talk Sport this morning. Alan Brazil and Dean Saunders were going crackers about Premier League teams playing out from the back.
So that says it all does it not.
We have a coach who thinks Mitchell, Anderson, Olowu, Nelson, Faulkner Rowe and Long can do what premier league players are having great difficulty doing.

They both said the objective of the game i to get the ball into the oppositions penalty area and create chances to score goals.

Alan & Dean please pin that up on the wall of DS’s office in bold luminous red letters. 

[Upton Rover]

Can’t understand why they would release this statement now about next season’s budget, seems to me they are trying to boost dwindling season ticket sales

[selby]

  No change and improvement between now and the end of the season he is gone, anyone want a bet for charity?
  He is being given a chance, he needs to take it and show more than he has done up to now both tactically and practically, and a bit more personality from him and his assistant wouldn't go amiss.

[dickos1]

I don’t recall brammal ever coming out like this, Baldwin and blunt maybe but seems different coming from him.
Seems it’s his own decision

[Cramby10]

  No change and improvement between now and the end of the season he is gone, anyone want a bet for charity?
  He is being given a chance, he needs to take it and show more than he has done up to now both tactically and practically, and a bit more personality from him and his assistant wouldn't go amiss.

god I hope you’re right.

[pib]

I can see both sides of this.

The board have made a rod for their own back making statements like this before, after which the desired outcomes have failed to be delivered. I'm not of the mind that these have been "lies" but I do think that processes/personnel haven't been in place to make the most of those resources, and decision making has been extremely poor leading to these resources being, in most instances, wasted.

I can see why people are now inclined to treat these things with scepticism and not suddenly believe that everything is going to be OK, when such proclamations have been made before - "significant funds" in January 2022 which was largely spent on dross, "resources to bounce back decisively" in summer 2022 prior to the club's lowest finish in 20 years.

However, if Terry has come to the conclusion that the previous strategy isn't working and he needs to take the bull by the horns to get the club back to a footballing level he deems acceptable, then fair play to him. I doubt it's an easy decision to commit funds to the club in this way and completely change tack, especially when he's receiving abuse off people either way.

I sincerely hope that this is the beginning of a more positive and forward-thinking period, and that the extra funds committed are matched up with a willingness to do things differently and put better processes in place on the football operations side. Change is needed in the execution, not just the funding.

The announcement today does raise some questions though:

1) Why the sudden 180 from TB and the board?
2) Where does this leave the strategy of "sustainability" and what view is now taken on the arguments in favour of this strategy previously?
3) What does the plan look like beyond aiming for promotion from L2?
4) What, if any, changes are being made to personnel, processes and decisions? Or is it just a case of extra funding.

[Alan Southstand]

It’s a welcome intervention from TB, but nowhere in that statement is there any acknowledgement that something is still badly wrong at the Club.

Without that realisation, where do you begin to put things right? Does TB think the only thing that has been wrong is a lack of funds then, I think he’s in for a shock.

Some very good points have been made by quite a few posters, listing all kind of things and there hasn’t been a single reference to supporter’s concerns. Not one.

I sincerely hope over the coming days and weeks, we get a bit more depth added to what, seemingly, is a positive opening statement from TB.

[Bentley Bullet]

It seems obvious to me that the owners now accept that the problems are a result of the teams underfunding.

[Campsall rover]

It seems obvious to me that the owners now accept that the problems are a result of the teams underfunding.

But it’s a lot more than that in reality BB

You need a coach who is competent. Most of all you need a Manager.

[The Beast]

To be fair the club has made a statement to the fans, which is what we wanted. I'm willing to give the club until August and see what happens, if the board has backed Schofield and the football and results are still crap, then they need to show intent by getting someone decent in.

[In the box]

I don’t recall brammal ever coming out like this, Baldwin and blunt maybe but seems different coming from him.
Seems it’s his own decision

Is his statement as much to do with the present state of the club as his own status in it . He has seldom made efforts to reassure the supporters with anything to with the clubs finances and his timing is clearly meant to send a message that he is listening .

[Upton Rover]

I don’t recall brammal ever coming out like this, Baldwin and blunt maybe but seems different coming from him.
Seems it’s his own decision

Is his statement as much to do with the present state of the club as his own status in it . He has seldom made efforts to reassure the supporters with anything to with the clubs finances and his timing is clearly meant to send a message that he is listening .

Surely if he was listening, he would sack DS, after all the majority of fans on here want that

[In the box]

That decision may still happen .

[Bessie Red]

  No change and improvement between now and the end of the season he is gone, anyone want a bet for charity?
  He is being given a chance, he needs to take it and show more than he has done up to now both tactically and practically, and a bit more personality from him and his assistant wouldn't go amiss.

I think your spot on Selby & I agree. I believe TB has set DS a test ie. prove you are capable between now and the end of the season & I will let you spend. If you fail, the money I am willing to invest will be given to a new manager.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I don’t recall brammal ever coming out like this, Baldwin and blunt maybe but seems different coming from him.
Seems it’s his own decision

Is his statement as much to do with the present state of the club as his own status in it . He has seldom made efforts to reassure the supporters with anything to with the clubs finances and his timing is clearly meant to send a message that he is listening .

Surely if he was listening, he would sack DS, after all the majority of fans on here want that

Then it proves he's capable of making his own decisions if he thought the head coaches job is a popularity contest.

[dickos1]

The day the important folk inside football clubs start listening to supporters regarding such matters as who should be the manager is the day football is over

[Donny Exile in York]

I can see both sides of this.

The board have made a rod for their own back making statements like this before, after which the desired outcomes have failed to be delivered. I'm not of the mind that these have been "lies" but I do think that processes/personnel haven't been in place to make the most of those resources, and decision making has been extremely poor leading to these resources being, in most instances, wasted.

I can see why people are now inclined to treat these things with scepticism and not suddenly believe that everything is going to be OK, when such proclamations have been made before - "significant funds" in January 2022 which was largely spent on dross, "resources to bounce back decisively" in summer 2022 prior to the club's lowest finish in 20 years.

However, if Terry has come to the conclusion that the previous strategy isn't working and he needs to take the bull by the horns to get the club back to a footballing level he deems acceptable, then fair play to him. I doubt it's an easy decision to commit funds to the club in this way and completely change tack, especially when he's receiving abuse off people either way.

I sincerely hope that this is the beginning of a more positive and forward-thinking period, and that the extra funds committed are matched up with a willingness to do things differently and put better processes in place on the football operations side. Change is needed in the execution, not just the funding.

The announcement today does raise some questions though:

1) Why the sudden 180 from TB and the board?
2) Where does this leave the strategy of "sustainability" and what view is now taken on the arguments in favour of this strategy previously?
3) What does the plan look like beyond aiming for promotion from L2?
4) What, if any, changes are being made to personnel, processes and decisions? Or is it just a case of extra funding.

A very sensible post. I'm very critical but with caution I do welcome this statement from the only man who can make a significant investment and difference. Let's see how it plays out. Timing wise might also explain why Big Brother pulled my post last night.

Irrespective Blunt needs to go ASAP

[Donny Exile in York]

I liken today's statement referring to DS as akin to the dreaded vote of Confidence

[scawsby steve]

The day the important folk inside football clubs start listening to supporters regarding such matters as who should be the manager is the day football is over

Really? So what happens when the stadium is empty because the fans have realised how clueless the manager is?

[Campsall rover]

  No change and improvement between now and the end of the season he is gone, anyone want a bet for charity?
  He is being given a chance, he needs to take it and show more than he has done up to now both tactically and practically, and a bit more personality from him and his assistant wouldn't go amiss.

I think your spot on Selby & I agree. I believe TB has set DS a test ie. prove you are capable between now and the end of the season & I will let you spend. If you fail, the money I am willing to invest will be given to a new manager.

What are the next 7 games going to show us though.  The pressure is off isn’t it. We are going to finish between 9th at best & 20th at worst. We only play 1 team above us in the table in those 7 games.

The players might go out & play with freedom and win say 5 of the games and possibly not lose any.
Does that suddenly make DS the right coach to lead us into next season.

We need a complete re set on style and substance. Tactical acumen and results. Can that be delivered.
Will DS change from his preferred football philosophy. Is he capable of doing that?
Has he already lost the players belief? Have they stopped listening to him?  Do they believe in him?
Has the confidence been drained to such an extent positive performances are now impossible?
With the injuries we have now do we have enough on the pitch to start winning football matches?

Lots of questions there.

Personally I think the seasons gone. Yes as I have said previously we want momentum at the end of the season but unless DS is prepared or able to re invent himself as a very different coach to the one we have seen since late October then what’s the point of keeping him just till the inevitable happens in another 6 months time.

Change needed Now.  Let Greeny take over as temporary head coach for the last 7 games.
Pro active in recruiting an experienced manager, that should imo start immediately.

If Blunt has any idea about football and has any empathy towards what a huge majority of the fan base want then he would act on it and be the Chairman that presumably TB wanted when he appointed him.
One who can make decisive decisions for the benefit of the football club.

[dickos1]

The day the important folk inside football clubs start listening to supporters regarding such matters as who should be the manager is the day football is over

Really? So what happens when the stadium is empty because the fans have realised how clueless the manager is?

Most football supporters don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.
Danny has been a professional footballer for 15 years, and a top level coach for 5 years
Yet people who’ve never played the game think they have the knowledge to tell the board to sack him..

Crackers

[scawsby steve]

The day the important folk inside football clubs start listening to supporters regarding such matters as who should be the manager is the day football is over

Really? So what happens when the stadium is empty because the fans have realised how clueless the manager is?

Most football supporters don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.
Danny has been a professional footballer for 15 years, and a top level coach for 5 years
Yet people who’ve never played the game think they have the knowledge to tell the board to sack him..

Crackers

Another ridiculous post that completely misses the point. WE have an opinion, because WE provide the revenue that keeps the club going.

Without US, there is no f*cking club.

[Campsall rover]

The day the important folk inside football clubs start listening to supporters regarding such matters as who should be the manager is the day football is over

Really? So what happens when the stadium is empty because the fans have realised how clueless the manager is?

Most football supporters don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.
Danny has been a professional footballer for 15 years, and a top level coach for 5 years
Yet people who’ve never played the game think they have the knowledge to tell the board to sack him..

Crackers

So all football fans are blind as bats.
We have just been imagining what we have been served up for the last 26 months.
It never really happened did it.

We don’t have to have Football coaching qualifications to see that DS has been telling his players to play a style of football that they are not only uncomfortable playing but actually incapable of playing.
Premier League Players are struggling to play this way.
We are in League 2. We don’t have players capable. Yet this coach persists with it after over 30 games in charge.

Dickos I don’t understand you at all. What is your agenda. Do you seriously think we have nothing or very little to moan about after watching this dross.
Are you enjoying this style of so called football. Do you think a 10 yr old football nut should be so bored to tears watching Rovers he doesn’t want to go anymore  Is that ok. They are the future supporters.

[Avsuptem]

I think people are reading far too much into the pro Schofield element of the statement and I would not be surprised if he gets the heave ho soon anyway. But saying so in a public statement would only undermine morale and performances further, thats why such things are rarely said.  Watching the match last week made me realise just how poor our squad is in the skills department, not one of our players displayed any sort of first touch mastery, there was no Tomlin - like wizard who could leave a defender wondering what just happened and no vsionary passer of the ball, in fact the quality of passing was Sunday league. So I am not sure how a new coach would be able to make much difference and the majority of this forum would soon be screaming for his head after a run of defeats just the same. Having said that the addition of 3 or 4 more talented players could transforn this squad and lift the overall performances exponentially. Remember the fans wanted Alex Ferguson sacked in his first season at Man U. Just look at it this way, if Tomlin had played for us all season and we had  a John Marquis and a Ben Whiteman in the side would we be still heading down the toilet ?

[Upton Rover]

The day the important folk inside football clubs start listening to supporters regarding such matters as who should be the manager is the day football is over

Really? So what happens when the stadium is empty because the fans have realised how clueless the manager is?

Most football supporters don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.
Danny has been a professional footballer for 15 years, and a top level coach for 5 years
Yet people who’ve never played the game think they have the knowledge to tell the board to sack him..

Crackers

Wow were do you get your info from? That’s so utter rubbish, how many games has this man won? You have been fooled by the biggest Publicity stunt the club as made in years, get real

[dickos1]

The day the important folk inside football clubs start listening to supporters regarding such matters as who should be the manager is the day football is over

Really? So what happens when the stadium is empty because the fans have realised how clueless the manager is?

Most football supporters don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.
Danny has been a professional footballer for 15 years, and a top level coach for 5 years
Yet people who’ve never played the game think they have the knowledge to tell the board to sack him..

Crackers

Wow were do you get your info from? That’s so utter rubbish, how many games has this man won? You have been fooled by the biggest Publicity stunt the club as made in years, get real

What info?

[dickos1]

The day the important folk inside football clubs start listening to supporters regarding such matters as who should be the manager is the day football is over

Really? So what happens when the stadium is empty because the fans have realised how clueless the manager is?

Most football supporters don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.
Danny has been a professional footballer for 15 years, and a top level coach for 5 years
Yet people who’ve never played the game think they have the knowledge to tell the board to sack him..

Crackers

Another ridiculous post that completely misses the point. WE have an opinion, because WE provide the revenue that keeps the club going.

Without US, there is no f*cking club.

Where did I say football supporters can’t have an opinion? I just said I value the opinion of someone like schofield than a bloke who’s never played the game

[dickos1]

The day the important folk inside football clubs start listening to supporters regarding such matters as who should be the manager is the day football is over

Really? So what happens when the stadium is empty because the fans have realised how clueless the manager is?

Most football supporters don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.
Danny has been a professional footballer for 15 years, and a top level coach for 5 years
Yet people who’ve never played the game think they have the knowledge to tell the board to sack him..

Crackers

So all football fans are blind as bats.
We have just been imagining what we have been served up for the last 26 months.
It never really happened did it.

We don’t have to have Football coaching qualifications to see that DS has been telling his players to play a style of football that they are not only uncomfortable playing but actually incapable of playing.
Premier League Players are struggling to play this way.
We are in League 2. We don’t have players capable. Yet this coach persists with it after over 30 games in charge.

Dickos I don’t understand you at all. What is your agenda. Do you seriously think we have nothing or very little to moan about after watching this dross.
Are you enjoying this style of so called football. Do you think a 10 yr old football nut should be so bored to tears watching Rovers he doesn’t want to go anymore  Is that ok. They are the future supporters.

It’s not me with the agenda I’m afraid.
As SM eluded to earlier you seem to have lost the plot recently.
The last 10 games have been dreadful but before that you were defending schofield but now he’s the worst thing ever to happen to the club. Crazy really.
The guy hasn’t signed his players yet, maybe he should’ve adapted the style until he does but that doesn’t mean he’s clueless.
For me I’m excited to see where he takes us with his one players and a summer coaching them.
You may not agree, that’s fine but you seem to have this attitude with every manager we have, you’ve been trying to be more positive I’ve noticed but have now reverted to your default position.
As for the ten year old I’m really not surprised he’s bored if he has to listen to what you’re forcing on him all the time.
My 9 year old is still excited for every game and he’s absolutely buzzing regarding yesterdays announcement, and we live 40 miles away with no other doncaster fans around, he loves taking his mates from here to games and showing them his club.