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BillyStubbsTears

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Not my Labour party
« on April 06, 2023, 10:27:46 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Whoever has authorised this on behalf of the Labour party wants shooting.

https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/1643973886311297028?s=20

Absolutely disgusting, gutter politics.



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drfchound

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #1 on April 06, 2023, 10:49:06 pm by drfchound »
Wouldn’t the leader authorise that?
At the very worst he should order it to be removed.

belton rover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #2 on April 06, 2023, 10:54:29 pm by belton rover »
Surely it lays squarely at Starmer’s door?

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #3 on April 06, 2023, 11:06:35 pm by Bentley Bullet »
This is the new, honest Britain guys!

We're gonna have to learn to live with it.

SydneyRover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #4 on April 06, 2023, 11:06:55 pm by SydneyRover »
Anyone want to back up their brain fart with ₤100 to charity?

belton rover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #5 on April 06, 2023, 11:11:08 pm by belton rover »
What do you mean, Sydney?

SydneyRover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #6 on April 06, 2023, 11:12:53 pm by SydneyRover »
What do you mean, Sydney?

If you think starmer condoned it back yourself in

SydneyRover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #7 on April 06, 2023, 11:16:45 pm by SydneyRover »
Come on belton I'll give you an hour to make up your mind

belton rover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #8 on April 06, 2023, 11:25:48 pm by belton rover »
I’ll be asleep in an hour.
I never stated that Starmer condoned it.
However, as Leader of the Labour Party, and probably the next PM, shouldn’t he be responsible for what his party puts out there?
We’ll see by his reaction, I guess.

albie

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #9 on April 06, 2023, 11:26:43 pm by albie »
It is from the Labour Party official twitter, so it is authorised from the top.
Look at the re-tweets:
https://twitter.com/StevenGWalker74/status/1644063790323908608/photo/1

Labour whips included.
This is a disciplinary matter for Labour.

SydneyRover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #10 on April 06, 2023, 11:27:26 pm by SydneyRover »
I’ll be asleep in an hour.
I never stated that Starmer condoned it.
However, as Leader of the Labour Party, and probably the next PM, shouldn’t he be responsible for what his party puts out there?
We’ll see by his reaction, I guess.

I accept your climb down

albie

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #11 on April 06, 2023, 11:39:18 pm by albie »
For those who don't know, Deb Mattinson is Labour Head of Strategy under Keith.

I should have explained that in the post above.

belton rover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #12 on April 06, 2023, 11:41:34 pm by belton rover »
I’ll be asleep in an hour.
I never stated that Starmer condoned it.
However, as Leader of the Labour Party, and probably the next PM, shouldn’t he be responsible for what his party puts out there?
We’ll see by his reaction, I guess.

I accept your climb down
Is your passive aggression something you picked up in Australia, or did you take it with you?

My original quote, quite clearly, that as leader, Starmer has to take responsibility for such tweets.

And I think he will, though I don’t agree that he should be shot.

SydneyRover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #13 on April 06, 2023, 11:45:35 pm by SydneyRover »
Ah the personal touch, that's the belton I know

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #14 on April 06, 2023, 11:50:41 pm by DonnyOsmond »
Very Boris-esque from the Red Tories.

SydneyRover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #15 on April 06, 2023, 11:55:49 pm by SydneyRover »
If we get back on topic, I see good in most people till I'm proved wrong, that's why I would back Starmer in this instance on that tweet, my reading of him says he has boundaries where he won't go. My guess is it will be quietly taken down.

belton rover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #16 on April 07, 2023, 12:03:25 am by belton rover »
If we get back on topic, I see good in most people till I'm proved wrong, that's why I would back Starmer in this instance on that tweet, my reading of him says he has boundaries where he won't go. My guess is it will be quietly taken down.
A much more pleasant response. Keep it up.

ncRover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #17 on April 07, 2023, 06:08:31 am by ncRover »
Christ. Looks like a UKIP poster.

ncRover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #18 on April 07, 2023, 06:58:53 am by ncRover »
“We need to win back those working class red wall seats we lost”

“Yes how can we positively market our policies to specifically target these voters?”

“Hmm that sounds like a lot of effort. Can’t we just continue with our Tories = bad rhetoric?”

“Ok fine, what do working class folk hate?”

“Nonces.”

“Say no more. I’ve got a great idea.”
« Last Edit: April 07, 2023, 07:01:50 am by ncRover »

drfchound

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #19 on April 07, 2023, 08:50:22 am by drfchound »
If we get back on topic, I see good in most people till I'm proved wrong, that's why I would back Starmer in this instance on that tweet, my reading of him says he has boundaries where he won't go. My guess is it will be quietly taken down.

Well that’s ok then.
Take it down (having allowed it to be posted) then all is ok.
If that had been in reverse, by the Torys against Starmer, there would be over 100 posts on the thread by now.
Well done bst by the way for calling it out.

tommy toes

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #20 on April 07, 2023, 09:11:10 am by tommy toes »
Yes I'm really disappointed that they're playing this game.
Whoever sanctioned this wants a bollocking

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #21 on April 07, 2023, 09:33:22 am by DonnyOsmond »
If we get back on topic, I see good in most people till I'm proved wrong, that's why I would back Starmer in this instance on that tweet, my reading of him says he has boundaries where he won't go. My guess is it will be quietly taken down.

Well that’s ok then.
Take it down (having allowed it to be posted) then all is ok.
If that had been in reverse, by the Torys against Starmer, there would be over 100 posts on the thread by now.
Well done bst by the way for calling it out.

Johnson blaming Starmer for Savile not the same kind of thing?

The Labour Party needs to show they're better than the Tories, not just the same but with a different coloured rosette.

SydneyRover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #22 on April 07, 2023, 09:56:51 am by SydneyRover »
I wonder if any of the above posters blamed Starmer with the savile smear?

belton rover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #23 on April 07, 2023, 10:05:29 am by belton rover »
Attacking the opposition cheaply and crudely is the norm, I’m afraid. Another example of all parties losing their sense of morality for a cheap ‘win’. The tories have been the leaders in this for a long time, probably just because they’ve had a louder voice. I think, as the election grows ever nearer, we’ll see more of this from both parties.
British politics is becoming more and more of a game. Social media is partly to blame - it is just too easy to put whatever you want out there for all to see. Yes, Starmer will probably condemn and have this tweet removed with some sort of mock horror, but it can’t be unseen or unregistered. He will be happy that the seed has been sewn that Sunak might not deal with abusers appropriately, regardless of how it came about.

We have seen more, much more, of this from the tories. But I think Labour are just late to the party. As the election looms ever nearer, gutter politics will increase all round.

Gutter politics for a country in the gutter.


ncRover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #24 on April 07, 2023, 10:26:12 am by ncRover »
I wonder if any of the above posters blamed Starmer with the savile smear?

I definitely didn’t.

SydneyRover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #25 on April 07, 2023, 10:32:39 am by SydneyRover »
Attacking the opposition cheaply and crudely is the norm, I’m afraid. Another example of all parties losing their sense of morality for a cheap ‘win’. The tories have been the leaders in this for a long time, probably just because they’ve had a louder voice. I think, as the election grows ever nearer, we’ll see more of this from both parties.
British politics is becoming more and more of a game. Social media is partly to blame - it is just too easy to put whatever you want out there for all to see. Yes, Starmer will probably condemn and have this tweet removed with some sort of mock horror, but it can’t be unseen or unregistered. He will be happy that the seed has been sewn that Sunak might not deal with abusers appropriately, regardless of how it came about.

We have seen more, much more, of this from the tories. But I think Labour are just late to the party. As the election looms ever nearer, gutter politics will increase all round.

Gutter politics for a country in the gutter.

It's not what I want to see, a war over law and order, I'd rather see more effort directed at racial harmony, more social mobility which it what has been lacking for 13+ years a better police force, but it's not gutter politics it's actually true.

belton rover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #26 on April 07, 2023, 10:34:15 am by belton rover »
What’s true? The original Tweet?

SydneyRover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #27 on April 07, 2023, 10:37:44 am by SydneyRover »
I'm glad you asked, yes, if you take hounds view of thing, the leader is responsible, no?

belton rover

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Re: Not my Labour party
« Reply #28 on April 07, 2023, 10:50:56 am by belton rover »
My apologies. I didn’t realise it was a dig at Hound.

tyke1962

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« Reply #29 on April 07, 2023, 10:54:11 am by tyke1962 »
Attacking the opposition cheaply and crudely is the norm, I’m afraid. Another example of all parties losing their sense of morality for a cheap ‘win’. The tories have been the leaders in this for a long time, probably just because they’ve had a louder voice. I think, as the election grows ever nearer, we’ll see more of this from both parties.
British politics is becoming more and more of a game. Social media is partly to blame - it is just too easy to put whatever you want out there for all to see. Yes, Starmer will probably condemn and have this tweet removed with some sort of mock horror, but it can’t be unseen or unregistered. He will be happy that the seed has been sewn that Sunak might not deal with abusers appropriately, regardless of how it came about.

We have seen more, much more, of this from the tories. But I think Labour are just late to the party. As the election looms ever nearer, gutter politics will increase all round.

Gutter politics for a country in the gutter.

It goes deeper than that Belton in my opinion .

The cheap shot politics is a consequence of neither party having any ideas or vision to take this country forward .

Unless the political system that we've lived under since 1979 changes to work in the interests of everybody and not the 1% and  accepted and adopted by the centre of the Labour Party then gutter politics is the only show in town .

Gutter politics is the tactic that keeps the country divided whilst the interests of the 1% are protected .

Only a left wing government will deliver the change this country desperately needs , only the left have the ideas and political will to change this country for the better .

There is nothing to celebrate or be even remotely enthusiastic about an incoming Labour government , nothing what so ever .

The current Labour Party contains as many dubious characters as any Johnson administration , chancers , liars and self interested .

The status quo will remain because the alternative is the status quo under the present guise that calls itself The Labour Party .


 

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