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Filo

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Those significant funds…
« on April 07, 2023, 05:23:00 pm by Filo »
… please get someone in that has the nous to build a team and adapt to situations please, or those significant funds will be wasted



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In the box

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Re: Those significant funds…
« Reply #1 on April 07, 2023, 05:50:07 pm by In the box »
Announcing as he did further investment,  TB failed to say what it would and would not be spent on , would it not have been prudent to say what is significant in L2 terms .  Everyone thinks it will mean a huge shift in attitude towards paying transfer or agent fees , or going toe to toe in a bidding war over a striker etc . Without knowing if the investment is to cover future seasons or just to settle the club and supporters down . But it’s good news that more money  is at last been talked about. 

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« Reply #2 on April 07, 2023, 06:19:05 pm by StocksArmy »
Announcing as he did further investment,  TB failed to say what it would and would not be spent on , would it not have been prudent to say what is significant in L2 terms .  Everyone thinks it will mean a huge shift in attitude towards paying transfer or agent fees , or going toe to toe in a bidding war over a striker etc . Without knowing if the investment is to cover future seasons or just to settle the club and supporters down . But it’s good news that more money  is at last been talked about. 

It is good news. For me personally it has to be exactly that "significant" to make me go back. I dont want us to want to get to League One and be happy to set up camp there. I want the club to dream again. If we want to get back to League One because its easier to live there then im not bothered. Rotherham took a decent step to survivalin the championship today beating West Brom 3-1 infront of a decent sized home crowd. Our fans are content with having shots on target against a bang average L2 set up.

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Re: Those significant funds…
« Reply #3 on April 07, 2023, 06:39:39 pm by In the box »
Is the message of more funds being made available sufficient to change already disillusioned supporters .
Waiting to see how things play out after such a painful season may not do the trick for some and after such a definite statement of intent , it should follow that only same type of decisive actions to demonstrate the direction the club is proposing needs to be seen even it just to say who is leaving and who is staying now !!
« Last Edit: April 07, 2023, 06:47:37 pm by In the box »

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Re: Those significant funds…
« Reply #4 on April 07, 2023, 06:43:08 pm by ncRover »
Copps needs to look at players to build a solid spine in the likely eventually that Schofield gets sacked at the latest 6-8 games in to next season.

He can’t put all his eggs in to one basket.

If it’s more airy fairy types to fit this god awful system then it will be rinse and repeat.

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Re: Those significant funds…
« Reply #5 on April 07, 2023, 07:04:02 pm by elmsallrover »
Does anyone think that if we don't win another game this season  schofield will be sacked at the end of it

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« Reply #6 on April 07, 2023, 07:06:08 pm by ncRover »
What kind of players are going to look at Schofield’s record and think “yeah sign me up” ?

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Re: Those significant funds…
« Reply #7 on April 07, 2023, 07:09:49 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Don’t care how much money we have. Just want a team that is at the least equal to the sum of its parts and competes. Eventually with that we will be back in L1. At the moment we don’t get value for money so it’s a waste to throw more at it.

Didn’t see today but it sounded better, low bar, so given what we could put out it’s probably par for what’s available. Although we all know better could be achieved with some realism from the dugout.

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Re: Those significant funds…
« Reply #8 on April 07, 2023, 07:19:18 pm by grayx »
Does anyone think that if we don't win another game this season  schofield will be sacked at the end of it
He really needs to go before then. Some of these “funds” need to be used on an experienced proven manager who needs time to assess the current squad & identify what he needs BEFORE next season. The rest of these “funds” used to get the right players in ready for pre-season.

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Re: Those significant funds…
« Reply #9 on April 07, 2023, 07:24:38 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Does anyone think that if we don't win another game this season  schofield will be sacked at the end of it
He really needs to go before then. Some of these “funds” need to be used on an experienced proven manager who needs time to assess the current squad & identify what he needs BEFORE next season. The rest of these “funds” used to get the right players in ready for pre-season.

Clear to see DS depressed the ability in the squad with his process. So it’s a good investment to get rid and replace with a competent replacement. Won’t find a much better cost to benefit action than improving every player in the squad by a fairly significant amount.

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Re: Those significant funds…
« Reply #10 on April 07, 2023, 08:41:14 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
… please get someone in that has the nous to build a team and adapt to situations please, or those significant funds will be wasted

There were 10 first team players missing today. We had an 18, a 19 and a 22 year old at centre back. We had an 18 year old making his full debut up top. We had two wingers at full back. We are scraping the dregs of an already not very good squad. What do you expect a manager to do?

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Re: Those significant funds…
« Reply #11 on April 07, 2023, 08:49:00 pm by Pside »
Maybe we can use them to try and hire Paul Simpson again? I wouldn’t  trust a single one of this lot with “significant funds”

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« Reply #12 on April 07, 2023, 08:55:23 pm by scawsby steve »
Maybe we can use them to try and hire Paul Simpson again? I wouldn’t  trust a single one of this lot with “significant funds”

Paul Simpson, John Coleman, Fatty Evans. Surely David Blunt knows that these kind of managers are light years ahead of DS in terms of lower league potential.

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Re: Those significant funds…
« Reply #13 on April 07, 2023, 09:24:18 pm by Campsall rover »
… please get someone in that has the nous to build a team and adapt to situations please, or those significant funds will be wasted

There were 10 first team players missing today. We had an 18, a 19 and a 22 year old at centre back. We had an 18 year old making his full debut up top. We had two wingers at full back. We are scraping the dregs of an already not very good squad. What do you expect a manager to do?
Oh come on BST
So you’re defending him now.  Sorry we have all been saying that Faulkner should be starting games.
Nelson is an England U19 international. D
Goodman has scored over 20 goals for the youth team this season.

All capable of playing League 2 football. There is no excuse left for DS.

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Re: Those significant funds…
« Reply #14 on April 07, 2023, 09:38:17 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
You have to earn yourself a bit of credit sometimes. DS hasn’t. We were very poor with pretty much our 1st 11.

If the credit was in the bank people would give him a break given the injuries.

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Re: Those significant funds…
« Reply #15 on April 07, 2023, 09:39:13 pm by StocksArmy »
… please get someone in that has the nous to build a team and adapt to situations please, or those significant funds will be wasted

There were 10 first team players missing today. We had an 18, a 19 and a 22 year old at centre back. We had an 18 year old making his full debut up top. We had two wingers at full back. We are scraping the dregs of an already not very good squad. What do you expect a manager to do?

This begs the question..... do you think some are faking injuries? Do you think some have been taken out the firing line to start a fresh next season as a "new signing"?

ncRover

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Re: Those significant funds…
« Reply #16 on April 07, 2023, 10:03:20 pm by ncRover »
It worries me that we can have games with no chances created and he says it was a positive performance.

I don’t care who is injured. A team with Molyneux, Westbrooke, Goodman, Close, Seaman and Rowe in should be able to create some chances.

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Re: Those significant funds…
« Reply #17 on April 08, 2023, 12:16:48 am by mrfrostsdad »
… please get someone in that has the nous to build a team and adapt to situations please, or those significant funds will be wasted

There were 10 first team players missing today. We had an 18, a 19 and a 22 year old at centre back. We had an 18 year old making his full debut up top. We had two wingers at full back. We are scraping the dregs of an already not very good squad. What do you expect a manager to do?

Stop it BST. We've been shite for months, not just today.

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Re: Those significant funds…
« Reply #18 on April 08, 2023, 12:28:44 am by BillyStubbsTears »
… please get someone in that has the nous to build a team and adapt to situations please, or those significant funds will be wasted

There were 10 first team players missing today. We had an 18, a 19 and a 22 year old at centre back. We had an 18 year old making his full debut up top. We had two wingers at full back. We are scraping the dregs of an already not very good squad. What do you expect a manager to do?

Stop it BST. We've been shite for months, not just today.

I'm just questioning what anyone thinks any manager could have achieved with the squad available today.

As a defensive unit, that back five was probably the weakest, certainly the most inexperienced that we've fielded in 20 years.

Barlow was making his first start of the season.

Westbrook was making his first start in 8 months.

Goodman his first start ever.

What do people genuinely expect?
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Re: Those significant funds…
« Reply #19 on April 08, 2023, 06:34:09 am by mpc123 »
I understand what you are saying but the disconnect by 20 yards between midfield and the lone striker, will still be there if you have much better players. It was there with our top players in and is now there with these players in.
Spend the money provided and it will still be there.
We are not talking weeks this guy had been in.
It's a dreadful decision to keep him, I'd argue that no other club would.

That's why it's going to end in disaster

Filo

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Re: Those significant funds…
« Reply #20 on April 08, 2023, 07:42:44 am by Filo »
… please get someone in that has the nous to build a team and adapt to situations please, or those significant funds will be wasted

There were 10 first team players missing today. We had an 18, a 19 and a 22 year old at centre back. We had an 18 year old making his full debut up top. We had two wingers at full back. We are scraping the dregs of an already not very good squad. What do you expect a manager to do?

We were shit before the injuries struck, I know that was an inexperienced team today, but what I’d like to see in the circumstances is flexibility in the way he sets teams up, be adaptable, play to your available strengths, not just plough on regardless. He needs to go he isn’t getting anything anywhere near the best out of them

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« Reply #21 on April 08, 2023, 07:45:47 am by Chris Black come back »
It’s true that if you look back over the last few seasons, how often have we had makeshift teams and squads.

Players drafted in, youngsters forced in ahead of their time, loan players going through the motions, no left back for most of last season, no striker for end of this season, Kwame and Rakish for the first half of the 2019/20 season and then Dodoo and Cukur for the 2021/22 season.

Some of it injury luck but more consistently just the inevitable outcome of rank bad recruitment of the very highest order.

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« Reply #22 on April 08, 2023, 08:00:22 am by Alan Southstand »
The team was inexperienced, but they were, by and large, ‘squad’ players. It underlines how desperately weak the whole squad is/was.

This is a squad that the Chairman said would have us ‘bouncing back decisively’. Who’s going to swallow that kind of talk again?

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« Reply #23 on April 08, 2023, 08:09:33 am by dickos1 »
If you don’t think it’s any different when the bloke who’s actually putting the cash in then you’re never going to be happy.
The poor bloke is just getting abuse for trying to give you a better football team.
When he doesn’t need to, after reading all the shite on here I wouldn’t be surprised if he changed his mind

mpc123

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« Reply #24 on April 08, 2023, 10:37:47 am by mpc123 »
If you don’t think it’s any different when the bloke who’s actually putting the cash in then you’re never going to be happy.
The poor bloke is just getting abuse for trying to give you a better football team.
When he doesn’t need to, after reading all the shite on here I wouldn’t be surprised if he changed his mind

It's not the guy putting the money in getting the stick.

It's the decisions what to do with the money that is the problem.

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« Reply #25 on April 08, 2023, 11:03:14 am by In the box »
If you don’t think it’s any different when the bloke who’s actually putting the cash in then you’re never going to be happy.
The poor bloke is just getting abuse for trying to give you a better football team.
When he doesn’t need to, after reading all the shite on here I wouldn’t be surprised if he changed his mind

It's not the guy putting the money in getting the stick.

It's the decisions what to do with the money that is the problem.
I suppose it’s just as well it’s not up to any of us how it’s spent or we’d really be in the sh** . :chair:

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« Reply #26 on April 08, 2023, 11:05:31 am by Padge_DRFC »
… please get someone in that has the nous to build a team and adapt to situations please, or those significant funds will be wasted

There were 10 first team players missing today. We had an 18, a 19 and a 22 year old at centre back. We had an 18 year old making his full debut up top. We had two wingers at full back. We are scraping the dregs of an already not very good squad. What do you expect a manager to do?

Stop it BST. We've been shite for months, not just today.

I'm just questioning what anyone thinks any manager could have achieved with the squad available today.

As a defensive unit, that back five was probably the weakest, certainly the most inexperienced that we've fielded in 20 years.

Barlow was making his first start of the season.

Westbrook was making his first start in 8 months.

Goodman his first start ever.

What do people genuinely expect?

Hurst and Agard to start. Easy question really.

Filo

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Re: Those significant funds…
« Reply #27 on April 08, 2023, 11:13:54 am by Filo »
… please get someone in that has the nous to build a team and adapt to situations please, or those significant funds will be wasted

There were 10 first team players missing today. We had an 18, a 19 and a 22 year old at centre back. We had an 18 year old making his full debut up top. We had two wingers at full back. We are scraping the dregs of an already not very good squad. What do you expect a manager to do?

To be fair I thought Barlow actuallly showed a willingness to run at defenders with the ball

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« Reply #28 on April 08, 2023, 11:27:58 am by Draytonian III »
Barlow was M.O.T.M

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« Reply #29 on April 08, 2023, 11:43:47 am by BillyStubbsTears »
… please get someone in that has the nous to build a team and adapt to situations please, or those significant funds will be wasted

There were 10 first team players missing today. We had an 18, a 19 and a 22 year old at centre back. We had an 18 year old making his full debut up top. We had two wingers at full back. We are scraping the dregs of an already not very good squad. What do you expect a manager to do?

Stop it BST. We've been shite for months, not just today.

I'm just questioning what anyone thinks any manager could have achieved with the squad available today.

As a defensive unit, that back five was probably the weakest, certainly the most inexperienced that we've fielded in 20 years.

Barlow was making his first start of the season.

Westbrook was making his first start in 8 months.

Goodman his first start ever.

What do people genuinely expect?

Hurst and Agard to start. Easy question really.

Have you been watching this past 12 months?

Agard can't last 20 minutes.

Hurst is a liability defensively.

 

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