Pragmatism

[redarmi66]

Without a little of this from Copps, the board and DS we will continue to go backwards. Its not about money its about acknowledging the idealistic approach needs a re think and some changes need to be made.

pragmatist:
a person who is guided more by practical considerations than by ideals.

"hardheaded pragmatists are firmly rooted in the real world"

Pragmatism

[ncRover]

I’m sure Copps would file this under “disgraceful abuse”.

[dickos1]

I see,
So we’ve abused schofield and it hasn’t worked so now we’re moving onto a club legend.
How long before he’s getting booed at games.
Need to have a look at yourselves

[normal rules]

I see,
So we’ve abused schofield and it hasn’t worked so now we’re moving onto a club legend.
How long before he’s getting booed at games.
Need to have a look at yourselves

Coppinger brought ds to the club.
He is accountable.
He knows nothing of life at drfc pre 2004. He has only seen the glory years.
He is about to though if things don’t change.
Schofield , copps and blunt will become the 21st C pariahs of this club if rovers drop into non league next season.
Schofield has been judged already. Never mind “next season” .  By definition, Copps is being judged also.
Comparisons are already being drawn with this team and that of 97/98. Performance wise. The stats are thee for all to see. The diff currently being we have a full squad of well paid pro’s. Rovers finished 97/98 with half the team made up of kids from the youth side.

[Metalmicky]

Coppinger brought ds to the club.
He is accountable.
He knows nothing of life at drfc pre 2004. He has only seen the glory years.
He is about to though if things don’t change.
Schofield , copps and blunt will become the 21st C pariahs of this club if rovers drop into non league next season.
Schofield has been judged already. Never mind “next season” .  By definition, Copps is being judged also.
Comparisons are already being drawn with this team and that of 97/98. Performance wise. The stats are thee for all to see. The diff currently being we have a full squad of well paid pro’s. Rovers finished 97/98 with half the team made up of kids from the youth side.

F**k me you are draining...... you must be a real joy to be around. 

[tyke1962]

I see,
So we’ve abused schofield and it hasn’t worked so now we’re moving onto a club legend.
How long before he’s getting booed at games.
Need to have a look at yourselves

Copps playing career isn't what he's getting judged on is it .

He's HOF and accountable , his playing career  gives him some leverage and a bit of credit in the bank but unless that credit keeps getting topped up eventually it will run out .

[ncRover]

I see,
So we’ve abused schofield and it hasn’t worked so now we’re moving onto a club legend.
How long before he’s getting booed at games.
Need to have a look at yourselves

I haven’t said anything abusive about anyone? Evidence please.

[normal rules]

Coppinger brought ds to the club.
He is accountable.
He knows nothing of life at drfc pre 2004. He has only seen the glory years.
He is about to though if things don’t change.
Schofield , copps and blunt will become the 21st C pariahs of this club if rovers drop into non league next season.
Schofield has been judged already. Never mind “next season” .  By definition, Copps is being judged also.
Comparisons are already being drawn with this team and that of 97/98. Performance wise. The stats are thee for all to see. The diff currently being we have a full squad of well paid pro’s. Rovers finished 97/98 with half the team made up of kids from the youth side.

F**k me you are draining...... you must be a real joy to be around. 
[/quote

I’m usually
Quite optimistic about most things . This shower have me utterly beat though. I’m thoroughly bereft of any positivity for rovers currently.

[Metalmicky]

Coppinger brought ds to the club.
He is accountable.
He knows nothing of life at drfc pre 2004. He has only seen the glory years.
He is about to though if things don’t change.
Schofield , copps and blunt will become the 21st C pariahs of this club if rovers drop into non league next season.
Schofield has been judged already. Never mind “next season” .  By definition, Copps is being judged also.
Comparisons are already being drawn with this team and that of 97/98. Performance wise. The stats are thee for all to see. The diff currently being we have a full squad of well paid pro’s. Rovers finished 97/98 with half the team made up of kids from the youth side.

F**k me you are draining...... you must be a real joy to be around. 
[/quote

I’m usually
Quite optimistic about most things . This shower have me utterly beat though. I’m thoroughly bereft of any positivity for rovers currently.

I saw your posts on the match day thread earlier and they were demoralising - I actually felt a bit sorry for you..... and thought you should take a break,

[Canadian Rover]

I see,
So we’ve abused schofield and it hasn’t worked so now we’re moving onto a club legend.
How long before he’s getting booed at games.
Need to have a look at yourselves

Agree with this. I personally DO want a change of manager but not ALL is wrong at the club.

[dickos1]

I see,
So we’ve abused schofield and it hasn’t worked so now we’re moving onto a club legend.
How long before he’s getting booed at games.
Need to have a look at yourselves

Copps playing career isn't what he's getting judged on is it .

He's HOF and accountable , his playing career  gives him some leverage and a bit of credit in the bank but unless that credit keeps getting topped up eventually it will run out .

His playing career should be giving him more leverage than a few months.
It’s embarrassing that he’s getting this level of stick after everything he has done for the club after only a few months of bad results

[Avsuptem]

I don't see how anyone can dissconnect DS from responsibility for the dire football served up to Doncaster Rovers supporters this term and made still worse by the total and obvious lack of any sort of tactical acumen during games.

 With responsibility goes accountability.

 Copps' Ostrich approach is in grave danger of sending us back into non league. They both deserve the chop.

[redarmi66]

I see,
So we’ve abused schofield and it hasn’t worked so now we’re moving onto a club legend.
How long before he’s getting booed at games.
Need to have a look at yourselves

Copps playing career isn't what he's getting judged on is it .

He's HOF and accountable , his playing career  gives him some leverage and a bit of credit in the bank but unless that credit keeps getting topped up eventually it will run out .

His playing career should be giving him more leverage than a few months.
It’s embarrassing that he’s getting this level of stick after everything he has done for the club after only a few months of bad results

He will get stick because he has hired DS who without question is overseeing the worst performances in 20 odd years. He is HOF and accountable. No one is doubting or forgetting all he has done for the club as a player. The majority of the fanbase are unhappy with DS (including the ones that dont boo) and Copps is seen as the person who employed him. His reluctance to make a change will to some, make him part of the problem. I think he would gain more respect as HOF if he acknowledged it isnt working and made a change. Everybody can see it. Its for the best. For all parties.

[redarmi66]

Coppinger brought ds to the club.
He is accountable.
He knows nothing of life at drfc pre 2004. He has only seen the glory years.
He is about to though if things don’t change.
Schofield , copps and blunt will become the 21st C pariahs of this club if rovers drop into non league next season.
Schofield has been judged already. Never mind “next season” .  By definition, Copps is being judged also.
Comparisons are already being drawn with this team and that of 97/98. Performance wise. The stats are thee for all to see. The diff currently being we have a full squad of well paid pro’s. Rovers finished 97/98 with half the team made up of kids from the youth side.

F**k me you are draining...... you must be a real joy to be around. 

Draining or not… its a fair evaluation based on the current state of affairs

[Donnybax]

I see,
So we’ve abused schofield and it hasn’t worked so now we’re moving onto a club legend.
How long before he’s getting booed at games.
Need to have a look at yourselves

I’ve not seen Coppinger get an ounce of abuse. Saying someone is doing a poor job is not abuse.

[Lazar]

I admire Copps sticking to his man in some ways, but there will come a time he has no choice but to dispense of his mate to save his own skin. Hopefully soon.

[dickos1]

I see,
So we’ve abused schofield and it hasn’t worked so now we’re moving onto a club legend.
How long before he’s getting booed at games.
Need to have a look at yourselves

I’ve not seen Coppinger get an ounce of abuse. Saying someone is doing a poor job is not abuse.

You’ve not been looking properly

[danumdon]

I see,
So we’ve abused schofield and it hasn’t worked so now we’re moving onto a club legend.
How long before he’s getting booed at games.
Need to have a look at yourselves

I’ve not seen Coppinger get an ounce of abuse. Saying someone is doing a poor job is not abuse.

You’ve not been looking properly

I would imagine that the vast majority of fans on here who are making observations about DS and JC do so because its on here and don't do it at the match.

If we are to descend to a level where opinions here are described as "personal abuse" then we really are scraping the barrel.

What next, real time moderation to remove any negativity towards a management group who are by any stretch of the imagination, absolutely failing in their remit.

[Donnybax]

I see,
So we’ve abused schofield and it hasn’t worked so now we’re moving onto a club legend.
How long before he’s getting booed at games.
Need to have a look at yourselves

I’ve not seen Coppinger get an ounce of abuse. Saying someone is doing a poor job is not abuse.

You’ve not been looking properly

point me in the right direction of Coppinger getting some personal abuse then?

[Avsuptem]

I see,
So we’ve abused schofield and it hasn’t worked so now we’re moving onto a club legend.
How long before he’s getting booed at games.
Need to have a look at yourselves

I’ve not seen Coppinger get an ounce of abuse. Saying someone is doing a poor job is not abuse.

You’ve not been looking properly

I would imagine that the vast majority of fans on here who are making observations about DS and JC do so because its on here and don't do it at the match.

If we are to descend to a level where opinions here are described as "personal abuse" then we really are scraping the barrel.

What next, real time moderation to remove any negativity towards a management group who are by any stretch of the imagination, absolutely failing in their remit.

Absolutely failing in their remit is dead right. A fish rots from the head and as JR alluded in his interview it is abundantly obvious where the route source of the problem lies.

[mpc123]

I see,
So we’ve abused schofield and it hasn’t worked so now we’re moving onto a club legend.
How long before he’s getting booed at games.
Need to have a look at yourselves

Copps playing career isn't what he's getting judged on is it .

He's HOF and accountable , his playing career  gives him some leverage and a bit of credit in the bank but unless that credit keeps getting topped up eventually it will run out .

His playing career should be giving him more leverage than a few months.
It’s embarrassing that he’s getting this level of stick after everything he has done for the club after only a few months of bad results

He will get stick because he has hired DS who without question is overseeing the worst performances in 20 odd years. He is HOF and accountable. No one is doubting or forgetting all he has done for the club as a player. The majority of the fanbase are unhappy with DS (including the ones that dont boo) and Copps is seen as the person who employed him. His reluctance to make a change will to some, make him part of the problem. I think he would gain more respect as HOF if he acknowledged it isnt working and made a change. Everybody can see it. Its for the best. For all parties.

As above.