Omar Bogle and Alfie May

[ravenrover]

Cheltenham played him as an out and out striker

[Branton Red]

In terms of goals per game Marquis was the best goalscorer we've had since Billy Sharp in a division or 2 higher.

Thanks to his superb fitness record Marquis was the most consistent goals per season goalscorer we've had across multiple seasons since Peter Kitchen. So in 40 years.

Nobody sensible at the time was urging Rovers to drop Marquis in favour of May or anybody else for that matter.

Like most players who excel at the Rovers Marquis moved on to a bigger club for more money. I don't begrudge him taking that opportunity. Things haven't worked out for him. On his behalf I'm disappointed as he worked very hard in a Rovers shirt.

Once Marquis left there was an opening in the main striker's position at the club. Neither May (nor Watters) was ever going to be given a fair opportunity to fill that role. Anybody who thinks otherwise needs their eyes testing.

When May was inevitably allowed to leave he found a club and manager willing to give him a run in his best position and in a system (2 up front) that suited him.

He's taken the opportunity presented to him superbly and has done fantastically well. As he was another player who worked very hard in a Rovers shirt I'm delighted for him.

[ncRover]

We’ve got Ironside, Faal and Miller to come back now, I’m more than happy with that!
Good luck to Alfie and Omar!

Yes, let’s look forwards.

Ironside is a far better footballer than Bogle.

[Sammy Chung was King]

We were flush with good forwards when Alfie went. It was disappointing when they let him go because his attitude seemed spot on and he really didn’t get the starts to prove how good he was. Saying that though there is no saying he would have developed the same with us, as he has elsewhere. It disappoints so much because we found a non league gem, but in hindsight, maybe let him go too soon.

[Chris Black come back]

A brace already for May tonight after half an hour.

9 in 13 league games before tonight. Good on him.

Now 11 in 14 league games.

Are the Dingles playing Watters in a different role? His scoring rate has dropped right off. 4 in 32 last season and 2 in 17 this season. He’s on exactly same rate of 1 in 8 these days.

I think everyone is playing a different role this season Chris , Collins wants to play more possession type football and prefers to play with a single strike generally Devante Cole and a ten just behind in McAtee .

Watters hasn't really had a run of games in my opinion and whilst he does work hard it's not really happened for him .

His first touch isn't the best and his hold up play isn't that great either , that's not going to win you starts with a HC who wants to play possession football when you are continually giving the ball away .

I'm not a Collins fan to be honest and he's making harder work of this league than it needs to be .

Duff got it up to the strikers quickly and the midfield pressed with lots of crosses coming in , I think Duff had it right for league one last season .

I like Duff. He's got a good eye for talent and knows a good prospect when he sees one.

That's a very useful skill to have and one that separates the men from the boys in the football world.

Just been sacked by Swansea City.

[Bentley Bullet]

I wonder if that means he hasn't got a good eye for talent and doesn't know a good prospect when he sees one.

[DonnyOsmond]

No one said May was prolific while at Rovers, but some of us said that given a fair run of full 90-minute games, he had the potential to be a very good player.

And they were right.

In 17-18 he played 718 minutes up front over 10 games Aug-Oct, starting the majority and scored 1 goal. Over the course of the season he played 1417 minutes up front and scored 4, that's 0.25 goals per 90 which isn't that great. The season previous to that, the season he initially signed for us he started 7 games in a row up front between Feb-Mar and scored 0. Then after Ferguson neither McCann or Moore felt he should be given the opportunity up front.

People on here need to stop acting like any of our previous managers cocked up with him because of how he is now, he's the player he is today because he left us and got first team football up front to develop. This was at a time we were fighting for League One play off spots, we couldn't afford him the time. Even after his move to Cheltenham he carried on with his average scoring record playing and starting up front in League Two, it wasn't until a couple seasons later in League One he started scoring for fun.

[Bentley Bullet]

No one said May was prolific while at Rovers, but some of us said that given a fair run of full 90-minute games, he had the potential to be a very good player.

And they were right.

[ravenrover]

No one said May was prolific while at Rovers, but some of us said that given a fair run of full 90-minute games, he had the potential to be a very good player.

And they were right.

In 17-18 he played 718 minutes up front over 10 games Aug-Oct, starting the majority and scored 1 goal. Over the course of the season he played 1417 minutes up front and scored 4, that's 0.25 goals per 90 which isn't that great. The season previous to that, the season he initially signed for us he started 7 games in a row up front between Feb-Mar and scored 0. Then after Ferguson neither McCann or Moore felt he should be given the opportunity up front.

People on here need to stop acting like any of our previous managers cocked up with him because of how he is now, he's the player he is today because he left us and got first team football up front to develop. This was at a time we were fighting for League One play off spots, we couldn't afford him the time. Even after his move to Cheltenham he carried on with his average scoring record playing and starting up front in League Two, it wasn't until a couple seasons later in League One he started scoring for fun.

And what position was Alfie played in those games "up front" ?

[steve@dcfd]

If you look at Charlton’s formation it’s 433 Alfie plays off the right of a front 3. This similar what he played when selected for us although is was mainly from the left. The clinical finishing was developed when he was at Cheltenham where he mostly played in a front two when Michael Duff was manager. Now it looks like he can play either up top or right of a front 3 and score. His workrate never changed but taking chances has.

[DonnyOsmond]

No one said May was prolific while at Rovers, but some of us said that given a fair run of full 90-minute games, he had the potential to be a very good player.

And they were right.

In 17-18 he played 718 minutes up front over 10 games Aug-Oct, starting the majority and scored 1 goal. Over the course of the season he played 1417 minutes up front and scored 4, that's 0.25 goals per 90 which isn't that great. The season previous to that, the season he initially signed for us he started 7 games in a row up front between Feb-Mar and scored 0. Then after Ferguson neither McCann or Moore felt he should be given the opportunity up front.

People on here need to stop acting like any of our previous managers cocked up with him because of how he is now, he's the player he is today because he left us and got first team football up front to develop. This was at a time we were fighting for League One play off spots, we couldn't afford him the time. Even after his move to Cheltenham he carried on with his average scoring record playing and starting up front in League Two, it wasn't until a couple seasons later in League One he started scoring for fun.

And what position was Alfie played in those games "up front" ?

What? Striker... Isn't that the definition of up front?

[DonnyOsmond]

If you look at Charlton’s formation it’s 433 Alfie plays off the right of a front 3. This similar what he played when selected for us although is was mainly from the left. The clinical finishing was developed when he was at Cheltenham where he mostly played in a front two when Michael Duff was manager. Now it looks like he can play either up top or right of a front 3 and score. His workrate never changed but taking chances has.

Aye. He always created decent chances too based on his xG numbers, he just always underperformed them until the second half of the 21-22 season where something clicked and he became an elite finisher.

[ravenrover]

No one said May was prolific while at Rovers, but some of us said that given a fair run of full 90-minute games, he had the potential to be a very good player.

And they were right.

In 17-18 he played 718 minutes up front over 10 games Aug-Oct, starting the majority and scored 1 goal. Over the course of the season he played 1417 minutes up front and scored 4, that's 0.25 goals per 90 which isn't that great. The season previous to that, the season he initially signed for us he started 7 games in a row up front between Feb-Mar and scored 0. Then after Ferguson neither McCann or Moore felt he should be given the opportunity up front.

People on here need to stop acting like any of our previous managers cocked up with him because of how he is now, he's the player he is today because he left us and got first team football up front to develop. This was at a time we were fighting for League One play off spots, we couldn't afford him the time. Even after his move to Cheltenham he carried on with his average scoring record playing and starting up front in League Two, it wasn't until a couple seasons later in League One he started scoring for fun.

And what position was Alfie played in those games "up front" ?

What? Striker... Isn't that the definition of up front?

Striker! When did Alfie play as a striker, he was always wide left and had to play more like a wing back

[DonnyOsmond]

No one said May was prolific while at Rovers, but some of us said that given a fair run of full 90-minute games, he had the potential to be a very good player.

And they were right.

In 17-18 he played 718 minutes up front over 10 games Aug-Oct, starting the majority and scored 1 goal. Over the course of the season he played 1417 minutes up front and scored 4, that's 0.25 goals per 90 which isn't that great. The season previous to that, the season he initially signed for us he started 7 games in a row up front between Feb-Mar and scored 0. Then after Ferguson neither McCann or Moore felt he should be given the opportunity up front.

People on here need to stop acting like any of our previous managers cocked up with him because of how he is now, he's the player he is today because he left us and got first team football up front to develop. This was at a time we were fighting for League One play off spots, we couldn't afford him the time. Even after his move to Cheltenham he carried on with his average scoring record playing and starting up front in League Two, it wasn't until a couple seasons later in League One he started scoring for fun.

And what position was Alfie played in those games "up front" ?

What? Striker... Isn't that the definition of up front?

Striker! When did Alfie play as a striker, he was always wide left and had to play more like a wing back

Read my initial post.

[Bentley Bullet]

All Strikers are forwards but not all forwards are Strikers.

[Dan Coster]

  What a difference a May makes

[Alan Southstand]

He’s put Charlton 1-0 up, at Reading, in the EFL Cup game, tonight.

[RoversInSpain]

Ironside scored for Doncaster Rovers again last night, why did Cambridge let him go?

[roversdude]

He’s put Charlton 1-0 up, at Reading, in the EFL Cup game, tonight.

And then missed a pelanty

[Colemans Left Hook]

He’s put Charlton 1-0 up, at Reading, in the EFL Cup game, tonight.

And then missed a pelanty

like Sir John Marquis he is not someone I would have taking penalties -- but like General Ironside (who hasn't missed for us yet - as the ball goes in off the crossbar) he did "seem" to have scored a few 4+ recently ?

[drfchound]

I always thought that Alfie was a good pen taker.

[Chris Black come back]

He had a 100pc record for us, scoring the only penalty he ever took (home to Grimsby Town in EFL Trophy in October 2018). His overall career record is 7 scored and 1 missed.

[drfchound]

He had a 100pc record for us, scoring the only penalty he ever took (home to Grimsby Town in EFL Trophy in October 2018). His overall career record is 7 scored and 1 missed.

So better than average then, outside of the top players in the world of course

[Sammy Chung was King]

May developed because he was played in his best position when he left us. Confidence was shown in him. At the time we had one of the top strikers around at the time. He just couldn’t get the games he needed. Unfortunately it was another clubs gain that they could give him the games we couldn’t.

We gave him an opportunity by signing him and his career has only improved since that happened. I would love us to be looking at these type of players now. We don’t have massive funding, there are players in non league worth giving a chance.

[Chris Black come back]

Most goals scored in 2023 (top 4 tiers):

30: Alfie May
29: Erling Haaland
25: Andy Cook
24: Mohamed Salah, Conor Chaplin, David McGoldrick
23: Dion Charles

[GazLaz]

Most goals scored in 2023 (top 4 tiers):

30: Alfie May
29: Erling Haaland
25: Andy Cook
24: Mohamed Salah, Conor Chaplin, David McGoldrick
23: Dion Charles

Those lists infuriate me for some reason. Like Billy Sharp being the top Championship scorer ever. Weird accolades I think.

[Sammy Chung was King]

Celebrating the hardest thing to do in football-score goals.