Does America...

[BillyStubbsTears]

...still execute agents of hostile countries?

https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/1667228188248776718?s=20

[BillyStubbsTears]

This is beyond words

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-65852074

[Sprotyrover]

Trump was clearly short of toilet paper due to the lockdown and had to use ‘something!”

[Colin C No.3]

Trump back in the Whitehouse 2024?

Could it happen, it’s America so….you betcha.

It’s like watching a s**t America soap where you don’t want to tune in anymore because it’s regurgitated c**p & yet, you suspect there may be a twist in a tawdry script that makes you sit up in the penultimate scene & say “What!, no way!”.

It’s ‘pure’ Hollywood & Putin would be the first to own the first box set!

[Donnywolf]

I can't believe a single word the bloke says , and his drawling , crawling , moaning method of delivering his speeches is so irritating

Amazing to think he could go to Prison , still run for President AND win AND then pardon himself

Bet 40% of the Electorate believe what he is telling them

[MachoMadness]

Trump said he could shoot a guy on central avenue and not lose any poll numbers. I suspect we'll get as close to finding out whether that's true soon.

Trump will be the republican nomination. DeSantis is a socially awkward weirdo. He's every bit as unhinged as Trump, but he can string a sentence together, which oddly works against him next to Trump's freewheeling nonsense.

This republican nomination race is going to be extremely funny I can guarantee you that. Politics as booked by the WWE.

[GazLaz]

He won’t win an election. It’s impossible. The man is horrific isn’t he.

[Colin C No.3]

Trump said he could shoot a guy on central avenue and not lose any poll numbers. I suspect we'll get as close to finding out whether that's true soon.

Trump will be the republican nomination. DeSantis is a socially awkward weirdo. He's every bit as unhinged as Trump, but he can string a sentence together, which oddly works against him next to Trump's freewheeling nonsense.

This republican nomination race is going to be extremely funny I can guarantee you that. Politics as booked by the WWE.

Frighteningly funny.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I disagree, it is entirely possible.  Don't underestimate just how right wing leaning a lot of Americans are.  Even the democrats are arguably further right than our UK government.

Trump's almost a cult, despite losing, he didn't really lose by much did he?  Very dangerous if he gets away with doing whatever he likes and not all western values.

[MachoMadness]

Trump absolutely has a very good chance of beating Biden.

[Colin C No.3]

Americans have a choice between ventriloquist’s dummy or a game show host as ‘Leader of the Free World’.

Gawd help us.

[ravenrover]

Don't slag them, look at the choices we have!

[scawsby steve]

Don't slag them, look at the choices we have!

Dead right, Raven. A multi-billionaire totally out of touch with ordinary people, and a guy who changes his mind as often as his underpants.

[Bentley Bullet]

Don't forget the multi-millionaire who changes his mind as often as his underpants is also totally out of touch with reality, as well as ordinary people.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I hate to break into this "all the same" love in, but have you noticed what this current utterly useless President has done with the US economy?

Or how he's facing down Putin, while Trump cowered and cringed round him?

[ncRover]

Biden really shouldn’t be doing this at his age. Is he going to run again?

https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1669841532700983299?s=46&t=Uj9lS9cW2ksdznjWwHqrkQ

[danumdon]

I hate to break into this "all the same" love in, but have you noticed what this current utterly useless President has done with the US economy?

Or how he's facing down Putin, while Trump cowered and cringed round him?

Would make very interesting questions for the pollsters,

Do you consider yourself and the world are in a safer and better place now than prior to the geriatric taking power?

Do you consider yourself better or worse off financially since the big spender took office?

Do you think Bidons next stage presentation is going to end with him frothing at the mouth whilst his secret service bods drag him off stage cackling like an hyena?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Another month, another set of criminal indictments against Trump.

If he wins next year and absolves himself of any prosecutions, that's American democracy funked for the foreseeable future.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Trump absolutely has a very good chance of beating Biden.

Not according to the current polls and being dragged through court several times before the election can't do him any good.

[selby]

  The people who have undermined the democratic Brexit vote in this country both high and low such as Starmer and labour MP.s and the speaker in the house Bercow and some on here have stoked up and kept up their undermining of that democratic vote which is largely no different from what Trump has done since being voted out of office,  while the same people deplore Trump and condemn him.
  Some on here  want to look at themselves and their posts over that period and take a moment to think.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Oh here he comes.

Let's draw an equivalence between a man who organised an attempted couple by an armed mob and a man who asked for a vote.

[selby]

  You and I who voted to stay in had our vote and we lost, I accepted the democratic vote, you didn't, and still don't, it's as simple as that.
  And you are still harping on about it to this day, full of self importance.

[idler]

I think that the biggest gripe about Brexit is the deal that we ended up with. The hard Brexit that we ended up with was nothing like the one talked about during the campaign.
It's a bit like going into hospital with a sceptic toe and being told yes we can cure it to find on waking up that they have amputated your leg to the knee.

[BillyStubbsTears]

And the situation that finally emerged in 2019, after the process had been hijacked by the far rightvwas not like anything that had been discussed in 2016. Even after signing the deal, Johnson was still lying about what it contained. That was what justified the call for a confirmatory vote. To ask the British people if that wad what they wanted.

Comparing that to a violent insurrection in which people died and senior politicians' lives were at risk is stupid.

[Bentley Bullet]

I think that the biggest gripe about Brexit is the deal that we ended up with. The hard Brexit that we ended up with was nothing like the one talked about during the campaign.
It's a bit like going into hospital with a sceptic toe and being told yes we can cure it to find on waking up that they have amputated your leg to the knee.

With all the accusations of lies being poured out in order to swing votes in favour of Brexit, anyone would think there were no lies from the Remain side!

 It's as though lying about manifestoes is a new thing! For heaven's sake, there are examples on this very forum where people want The Labour Party to lie its way into power with more right-wing proposals, with the intention of conning voters by turning to Left-wing proposals once they get into power!

[MachoMadness]

Trump absolutely has a very good chance of beating Biden.

Not according to the current polls and being dragged through court several times before the election can't do him any good.

Won't affect him as much as it would a 'normal' candidate. His defence is rock solid and built in. Deep state! Radical left Marxist Democrats trying to overthrow democracy! I actually won the election and everyone knows it!

Trump being charged with crimes isn't going to change anyone's mind about him. Everyone knew what he was like the first time, didn't stop him getting voted in then.

Apathy stemming from Biden's general lack of achievement - albeit where his hands are tied to some extent by the Supreme Court weighting - could very easily swing it.

[BillyStubbsTears]

MM
That "Biden lack of achievement" line is one I hear regularly from the left.

I've absolutely no idea what it is based on.

America has booming GDP, it has ridden the inflation wave and got it back down to 3%. Unemployment hasn't been lower since the days of Neil Armstrong and Vietnam and real wages are rising.

What exactly does achievement look like if this is an absence of it?

But I agree that America is in a very bad place. There's a baked in 40% who will refuse to believe anything bad about Trump. Not fraud. Not stealing Top Secret documents and piling them up in his gold plated shitter. Not organising an attempted coup.

It's the consequence of 3 decades of the far right of the Republican party abusing the whole concept of Objective Truth. I honestly don't know how America gets out of this. Either they end up with a would be insurrectionist in the WH in 18 months. Or he ends up in prison. Or he ends up whipping his followers up to a bigger frenzy,  claiming the court action cost him the Presidency.

The first one is the de facto end of US democracy. The other two are likely to lead to social unrest on a scale they've never seen before.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Trump absolutely has a very good chance of beating Biden.

Not according to the current polls and being dragged through court several times before the election can't do him any good.

Won't affect him as much as it would a 'normal' candidate. His defence is rock solid and built in. Deep state! Radical left Marxist Democrats trying to overthrow democracy! I actually won the election and everyone knows it!

Trump being charged with crimes isn't going to change anyone's mind about him. Everyone knew what he was like the first time, didn't stop him getting voted in then.

Apathy stemming from Biden's general lack of achievement - albeit where his hands are tied to some extent by the Supreme Court weighting - could very easily swing it.

No they didn't. People thought he'd do what he said he was going to do. The thing is, he didn't, except cut taxes for the mega-wealthy. Because of that people now know that he's full of shit due his record this time around, which is why he won't win.

[IDM]

I think that the biggest gripe about Brexit is the deal that we ended up with. The hard Brexit that we ended up with was nothing like the one talked about during the campaign.
It's a bit like going into hospital with a sceptic toe and being told yes we can cure it to find on waking up that they have amputated your leg to the knee.

Post of the century.!!

[Bentley Bullet]

The Remoaners were griping about Brexit the minute the result was announced and before any deal was struck, good or bad. The truth is, there would never be a good deal no matter what deal was struck in the eyes of the Remoaners.