Boris quits as MP with immediate effect

[BillyStubbsTears]

The thing is BB, you will be delighted if you are right.

I'm shocked and appalled to be right about Johnson.

[Bentley Bullet]

Ideally, I would like to not get the opportunity to be right. If I am proved right, it will be the fault of those who voted for the wet wipe, not me.

[BillyStubbsTears]

You're a strange one BB.

You've spent years on here supporting a pathological liar and slagging off anyone who pointed out what he was.

When he was finally outed for what he was, you could perhaps have reflected on why you supported him and whether you were wrong. But there's not even a flicker of such reflection.

Almost as if all that ever matters to you is the argument...

[Bentley Bullet]

I think you're getting confused between supporting someone and defending them against your constant search for accusations of Tory lies, and a complete rejection of any Labour Party lie stands out like Errol Flynn's cock in a brothel.

[BillyStubbsTears]

BB

You mean that regular pointing out of the pathological lies of a pathological liar, who has now for the third time lost an important job because of his inability to stop lying?

Is that what you are complaining about?

That one who you frequently defended as not being a liar?

And let me think.

Oh yeah. You have had a crusade of trying to find a false equivalence between:

On the one hand, a man who lies as often as he breathes, who was found to have broken the law by the police, lied about it, was found to have broken other rules by an independent inquiry, lied about that, then was finally hoyed out by a cross party committee of MPs

And on the other hand, a man  who said he'd resign if he was found to have broken the law, was investigated by the police and entirely exonerated.

In your twisted head, someone who calls the first a liar and not the second is biased. It clearly never dawn's on you how cringingly embarrassing you look on your crusade to try to draw some equality between them.

[Bentley Bullet]

As a bloke who shows such revulsion for lies, yet wants his own party to lie in order to get into power, I suggest you are the one with a twisted head.

People knew Boris Johnson was a liar when they voted him in, but they also knew that right or wrong, at least he was upfront with his intentions. That is something that cannot be said of Keir Starmer, who changes his mind like the weather. In that respect, there is absolutely no equality between them.

If you weren't so biased BST, YOU would be the one who's embarrassed.

[Not Now Kato]

As a bloke who shows such revulsion for lies, yet wants his own party to lie in order to get into power, I suggest you are the one with a twisted head.

People knew Boris Johnson was a liar when they voted him in, but they also knew that right or wrong, at least he was upfront with his intentions. That is something that cannot be said of Keir Starmer, who changes his mind like the weather. In that respect, there is absolutely no equality between them.

If you weren't so biased BST, YOU would be the one who's embarrassed.

Up front with his intentions?  The guy who wrote two completely opposing speeches re the referendum to see which way the wind was blowing before picking one?
 
And anyone voting for a liar, knowing he's a liar, needs their head examining!
 
You really do have issues BB, stick to football and humour, at least you know something about those.

[BillyStubbsTears]

What's that word for someone who is so acutely embarrassed at their own shortcomings that they can't face them, but instead accuses everyone else of having the same issues?

[Bentley Bullet]

As a bloke who shows such revulsion for lies, yet wants his own party to lie in order to get into power, I suggest you are the one with a twisted head.

People knew Boris Johnson was a liar when they voted him in, but they also knew that right or wrong, at least he was upfront with his intentions. That is something that cannot be said of Keir Starmer, who changes his mind like the weather. In that respect, there is absolutely no equality between them.

If you weren't so biased BST, YOU would be the one who's embarrassed.

Up front with his intentions?  The guy who wrote two completely opposing speeches re the referendum to see which way the wind was blowing before picking one?
 
And anyone voting for a liar, knowing he's a liar, needs their head examining!
 
You really do have issues BB, stick to football and humour, at least you know something about those.

So, because a bloke looks at both points of view before making his mind up, he's not upfront with his intentions! Didn't you consider both sides of the Leave/Remain referendum before voting?

What side was the labour leader on?

Anyone who votes for Starmer because they think he tells the truth all the time needs their head examined.

[Bentley Bullet]

What's that word for someone who is so acutely embarrassed at their own shortcomings that they can't face them, but instead accuses everyone else of having the same issues?

Don't know Billy lad but I'm sure your therapist will tell you.

[Not Now Kato]

As a bloke who shows such revulsion for lies, yet wants his own party to lie in order to get into power, I suggest you are the one with a twisted head.

People knew Boris Johnson was a liar when they voted him in, but they also knew that right or wrong, at least he was upfront with his intentions. That is something that cannot be said of Keir Starmer, who changes his mind like the weather. In that respect, there is absolutely no equality between them.

If you weren't so biased BST, YOU would be the one who's embarrassed.

Up front with his intentions?  The guy who wrote two completely opposing speeches re the referendum to see which way the wind was blowing before picking one?
 
And anyone voting for a liar, knowing he's a liar, needs their head examining!
 
You really do have issues BB, stick to football and humour, at least you know something about those.

So, because a bloke looks at both points of view before making his mind up, he's not upfront with his intentions! Didn't you consider both sides of the Leave/Remain referendum before voting?

What side was the labour leader on?

Anyone who votes for Starmer because they think he tells the truth all the time needs their head examined.

There’s a big difference between looking at both points and writing two separate and opposing speeches on the subject BB, a big difference!
 
By the way, anyone who thinks they are voting for the leader of any party, (other than those in his/her constituency), are totally delusional and don’t understand the voting system.
 
Your throwing your support for, and attempting to defend, a proven liar says much about you.

[BillyStubbsTears]

As a bloke who shows such revulsion for lies, yet wants his own party to lie in order to get into power, I suggest you are the one with a twisted head.

People knew Boris Johnson was a liar when they voted him in, but they also knew that right or wrong, at least he was upfront with his intentions. That is something that cannot be said of Keir Starmer, who changes his mind like the weather. In that respect, there is absolutely no equality between them.

If you weren't so biased BST, YOU would be the one who's embarrassed.

Up front with his intentions?  The guy who wrote two completely opposing speeches re the referendum to see which way the wind was blowing before picking one?
 
And anyone voting for a liar, knowing he's a liar, needs their head examining!
 
You really do have issues BB, stick to football and humour, at least you know something about those.

So, because a bloke looks at both points of view before making his mind up, he's not upfront with his intentions! Didn't you consider both sides of the Leave/Remain referendum before voting?

What side was the labour leader on?

Anyone who votes for Starmer because they think he tells the truth all the time needs their head examined.

BB and Nadine Dories. An undying love for Johnson. The only people left in the world who actually think Johnson agonised over whether Remain or Leave would be best for the country.

[Bentley Bullet]

No surprise there BST. You and your disciples have been wrong all along about me so, well......... No surprise there.

[Bentley Bullet]

As a bloke who shows such revulsion for lies, yet wants his own party to lie in order to get into power, I suggest you are the one with a twisted head.

People knew Boris Johnson was a liar when they voted him in, but they also knew that right or wrong, at least he was upfront with his intentions. That is something that cannot be said of Keir Starmer, who changes his mind like the weather. In that respect, there is absolutely no equality between them.

If you weren't so biased BST, YOU would be the one who's embarrassed.

Up front with his intentions?  The guy who wrote two completely opposing speeches re the referendum to see which way the wind was blowing before picking one?
 
And anyone voting for a liar, knowing he's a liar, needs their head examining!
 
You really do have issues BB, stick to football and humour, at least you know something about those.

So, because a bloke looks at both points of view before making his mind up, he's not upfront with his intentions! Didn't you consider both sides of the Leave/Remain referendum before voting?

What side was the labour leader on?

Anyone who votes for Starmer because they think he tells the truth all the time needs their head examined.

There’s a big difference between looking at both points and writing two separate and opposing speeches on the subject BB, a big difference!
 
By the way, anyone who thinks they are voting for the leader of any party, (other than those in his/her constituency), are totally delusional and don’t understand the voting system.
 
Your throwing your support for, and attempting to defend, a proven liar says much about you.

So why don't the lefties on this forum have a bit more understanding of the voting system and discuss the merits of members in his/her constituency, instead of delusionally wasting their time waxing lyrical about Starmer?

[Not Now Kato]

As a bloke who shows such revulsion for lies, yet wants his own party to lie in order to get into power, I suggest you are the one with a twisted head.

People knew Boris Johnson was a liar when they voted him in, but they also knew that right or wrong, at least he was upfront with his intentions. That is something that cannot be said of Keir Starmer, who changes his mind like the weather. In that respect, there is absolutely no equality between them.

If you weren't so biased BST, YOU would be the one who's embarrassed.

Up front with his intentions?  The guy who wrote two completely opposing speeches re the referendum to see which way the wind was blowing before picking one?
 
And anyone voting for a liar, knowing he's a liar, needs their head examining!
 
You really do have issues BB, stick to football and humour, at least you know something about those.

So, because a bloke looks at both points of view before making his mind up, he's not upfront with his intentions! Didn't you consider both sides of the Leave/Remain referendum before voting?

What side was the labour leader on?

Anyone who votes for Starmer because they think he tells the truth all the time needs their head examined.

There’s a big difference between looking at both points and writing two separate and opposing speeches on the subject BB, a big difference!
 
By the way, anyone who thinks they are voting for the leader of any party, (other than those in his/her constituency), are totally delusional and don’t understand the voting system.
 
Your throwing your support for, and attempting to defend, a proven liar says much about you.

So why don't the lefties on this forum have a bit more understanding of the voting system and discuss the merits of members in his/her constituency, instead of delusionally wasting their time waxing lyrical about Starmer?

There's a HUGE difference between 'waxing lyrical' and 'voting for' BB. People can wax lyrical about anyone, (as you do about Johnson), but they can only vote for whoever puts themselves forward in their own constituency.
 
Such voting should be based on what each party is proposing in their manifesto for the benefit of the country as a whole and the local candidate's perceived ability to pursue and deliver those benefits on behalf of that constituency.
 
Sadly, all too few people bother to read any of those manifestos, rather, they make their decisions based on what the MSM and Social Media tells them and the images the MSM and SM create.
 
This country has, worryingly, moved in a direction where image is put before substance, and it's not exclusive to politics either.  It does not bode well for the future!

[belton rover]

As a bloke who shows such revulsion for lies, yet wants his own party to lie in order to get into power, I suggest you are the one with a twisted head.

People knew Boris Johnson was a liar when they voted him in, but they also knew that right or wrong, at least he was upfront with his intentions. That is something that cannot be said of Keir Starmer, who changes his mind like the weather. In that respect, there is absolutely no equality between them.

If you weren't so biased BST, YOU would be the one who's embarrassed.

Up front with his intentions?  The guy who wrote two completely opposing speeches re the referendum to see which way the wind was blowing before picking one?
 
And anyone voting for a liar, knowing he's a liar, needs their head examining!
 
You really do have issues BB, stick to football and humour, at least you know something about those.

So, because a bloke looks at both points of view before making his mind up, he's not upfront with his intentions! Didn't you consider both sides of the Leave/Remain referendum before voting?

What side was the labour leader on?

Anyone who votes for Starmer because they think he tells the truth all the time needs their head examined.

There’s a big difference between looking at both points and writing two separate and opposing speeches on the subject BB, a big difference!
 
By the way, anyone who thinks they are voting for the leader of any party, (other than those in his/her constituency), are totally delusional and don’t understand the voting system.
 
Your throwing your support for, and attempting to defend, a proven liar says much about you.

So why don't the lefties on this forum have a bit more understanding of the voting system and discuss the merits of members in his/her constituency, instead of delusionally wasting their time waxing lyrical about Starmer?

There's a HUGE difference between 'waxing lyrical' and 'voting for' BB. People can wax lyrical about anyone, (as you do about Johnson), but they can only vote for whoever puts themselves forward in their own constituency.
 
Such voting should be based on what each party is proposing in their manifesto for the benefit of the country as a whole and the local candidate's perceived ability to pursue and deliver those benefits on behalf of that constituency.
 
Sadly, all too few people bother to read any of those manifestos, rather, they make their decisions based on what the MSM and Social Media tells them and the images the MSM and SM create.
 
This country has, worryingly, moved in a direction where image is put before substance, and it's not exclusive to politics either.  It does not bode well for the future!

It’s a nice idea, Not, but it just doesn’t work that way. Has it ever?

If you thought the Tories had the ‘best’ manifesto last time and your local Tory MP looked like he could have delivered it, would you have voted for them, effectively voting for Johnson? Have you changed your allegiance historically, depending on the best manifesto/local MP at the time?
Credit to you if you do, but most people don’t.

[Not Now Kato]

As a bloke who shows such revulsion for lies, yet wants his own party to lie in order to get into power, I suggest you are the one with a twisted head.

People knew Boris Johnson was a liar when they voted him in, but they also knew that right or wrong, at least he was upfront with his intentions. That is something that cannot be said of Keir Starmer, who changes his mind like the weather. In that respect, there is absolutely no equality between them.

If you weren't so biased BST, YOU would be the one who's embarrassed.

Up front with his intentions?  The guy who wrote two completely opposing speeches re the referendum to see which way the wind was blowing before picking one?
 
And anyone voting for a liar, knowing he's a liar, needs their head examining!
 
You really do have issues BB, stick to football and humour, at least you know something about those.

So, because a bloke looks at both points of view before making his mind up, he's not upfront with his intentions! Didn't you consider both sides of the Leave/Remain referendum before voting?

What side was the labour leader on?

Anyone who votes for Starmer because they think he tells the truth all the time needs their head examined.

There’s a big difference between looking at both points and writing two separate and opposing speeches on the subject BB, a big difference!
 
By the way, anyone who thinks they are voting for the leader of any party, (other than those in his/her constituency), are totally delusional and don’t understand the voting system.
 
Your throwing your support for, and attempting to defend, a proven liar says much about you.

So why don't the lefties on this forum have a bit more understanding of the voting system and discuss the merits of members in his/her constituency, instead of delusionally wasting their time waxing lyrical about Starmer?

There's a HUGE difference between 'waxing lyrical' and 'voting for' BB. People can wax lyrical about anyone, (as you do about Johnson), but they can only vote for whoever puts themselves forward in their own constituency.
 
Such voting should be based on what each party is proposing in their manifesto for the benefit of the country as a whole and the local candidate's perceived ability to pursue and deliver those benefits on behalf of that constituency.
 
Sadly, all too few people bother to read any of those manifestos, rather, they make their decisions based on what the MSM and Social Media tells them and the images the MSM and SM create.
 
This country has, worryingly, moved in a direction where image is put before substance, and it's not exclusive to politics either.  It does not bode well for the future!

It’s a nice idea, Not, but it just doesn’t work that way. Has it ever?

If you thought the Tories had the ‘best’ manifesto last time and your local Tory MP looked like he could have delivered it, would you have voted for them, effectively voting for Johnson? Have you changed your allegiance historically, depending on the best manifesto/local MP at the time?
Credit to you if you do, but most people don’t.

Yes, it's not a nice idea; it's the only sensible way to vote.
 
People doing as you say is stupid and one of the reasons the country is in the mess that it is!
 
And I don't have an allegiance, I have voted in the way I posted since I first started to vote.
 
Have you ever bothered to read the manifesto's of the main parties?

[Bentley Bullet]

There's a MASSIVE difference between waxing lyrical about someone and defending them! I defend the Tories against the constant barrage of relentless one-sided bias that a handful of lefties spend their lives talking about on this forum.

[belton rover]

As a bloke who shows such revulsion for lies, yet wants his own party to lie in order to get into power, I suggest you are the one with a twisted head.

People knew Boris Johnson was a liar when they voted him in, but they also knew that right or wrong, at least he was upfront with his intentions. That is something that cannot be said of Keir Starmer, who changes his mind like the weather. In that respect, there is absolutely no equality between them.

If you weren't so biased BST, YOU would be the one who's embarrassed.

Up front with his intentions?  The guy who wrote two completely opposing speeches re the referendum to see which way the wind was blowing before picking one?
 
And anyone voting for a liar, knowing he's a liar, needs their head examining!
 
You really do have issues BB, stick to football and humour, at least you know something about those.

So, because a bloke looks at both points of view before making his mind up, he's not upfront with his intentions! Didn't you consider both sides of the Leave/Remain referendum before voting?

What side was the labour leader on?

Anyone who votes for Starmer because they think he tells the truth all the time needs their head examined.

There’s a big difference between looking at both points and writing two separate and opposing speeches on the subject BB, a big difference!
 
By the way, anyone who thinks they are voting for the leader of any party, (other than those in his/her constituency), are totally delusional and don’t understand the voting system.
 
Your throwing your support for, and attempting to defend, a proven liar says much about you.

So why don't the lefties on this forum have a bit more understanding of the voting system and discuss the merits of members in his/her constituency, instead of delusionally wasting their time waxing lyrical about Starmer?

There's a HUGE difference between 'waxing lyrical' and 'voting for' BB. People can wax lyrical about anyone, (as you do about Johnson), but they can only vote for whoever puts themselves forward in their own constituency.
 
Such voting should be based on what each party is proposing in their manifesto for the benefit of the country as a whole and the local candidate's perceived ability to pursue and deliver those benefits on behalf of that constituency.
 
Sadly, all too few people bother to read any of those manifestos, rather, they make their decisions based on what the MSM and Social Media tells them and the images the MSM and SM create.
 
This country has, worryingly, moved in a direction where image is put before substance, and it's not exclusive to politics either.  It does not bode well for the future!

It’s a nice idea, Not, but it just doesn’t work that way. Has it ever?

If you thought the Tories had the ‘best’ manifesto last time and your local Tory MP looked like he could have delivered it, would you have voted for them, effectively voting for Johnson? Have you changed your allegiance historically, depending on the best manifesto/local MP at the time?
Credit to you if you do, but most people don’t.

Yes, it's not a nice idea; it's the only sensible way to vote.
 
People doing as you say is stupid and one of the reasons the country is in the mess that it is!
 
And I don't have an allegiance, I have voted in the way I posted since I first started to vote.
 
Have you ever bothered to read the manifesto's of the main parties?

I really don’t know why you felt the need to respond with passive aggression. My post was polite and asked some very reasonable questions. It seems I jumped the gun using your first name.

In answer to your question, I don’t read Manifestoes, though I know I probably should. Personally, I look at the leader of each party to begin with, and ask myself, ‘do I trust this person to do the best that she/he can and do I think they have the country’s best interests at heart?’.

I have said many times on here that I have only ever voted Labour. Because of my focus on the individual who may lead the country, this has resulted in me abstaining. For example, I didn’t vote in Blair’s final election, I did vote for Brown, I did not vote under Corbyn.

I have promised myself I will change this for the next election and vote for ‘someone’ even though I have absolutely zero faith in Starmer (as I did with Corbyn).
My dilemma is I would rather have Sunak running the country over Starmer (though only because he is the lesser of two evils).

Perhaps I need to take more notice of the leader of the Green Party.

[tommy toes]

Got to laugh BB. You, accusing others of one sided bias. Your the most unself aware person I've ever come across
You constantly accuse people of stuff that you are far more guilty of.
Anyway, I've been out this morning canvassing with Sally Jameson, our next MP in Donny Central.
We knocked on a door and said what we were there for
He said No! I'm for Boris.
I said summat like.. what even after this week.?
Yes, theyre all liars.
Who are?
Them on that commitee.
So you want him back?
Yes and he got us Brexit.
OK, nice to talk to you.

I had to check I wasn't in Bentley.

[belton rover]

Got to laugh BB. You, accusing others of one sided bias. Your the most unself aware person I've ever come across
You constantly accuse people of stuff that you are far more guilty of.
Anyway, I've been out this morning canvassing with Sally Jameson, our next MP in Donny Central.
We knocked on a door and said what we were there for
He said No! I'm for Boris.
I said summat like.. what even after this week.?
Yes, theyre all liars.
Who are?
Them on that commitee.
So you want him back?
Yes and he got us Brexit.
OK, nice to talk to you.

I had to check I wasn't in Bentley.

Billy, Bentley, Tommy, Hound etc: they’re all the same.

On a more serious note about your post, Tommy. This bloke you spoke to today is the reason your and other’s ‘Brexit Benefit’ threads and your ‘told you so’ type of posts are a complete waste of time.
The blame for the Brexit result lies with, first of all, Cameron for being as far removed from the people of Britain as is imaginable, and secondly, the arses who were responsible for both the leave and remain campaigns.

[Glyn_Wigley]

BB's definitely always the same!

[BillyStubbsTears]

There's a MASSIVE difference between waxing lyrical about someone and defending them! I defend the Tories against the constant barrage of relentless one-sided bias that a handful of lefties spend their lives talking about on this forum.

You've spent years defending a pathological liar when people have pointed out his string of lies.

You told us he wasn't a liar.

Then when you couldn't defend that line any further, you stopped trying to pretend he wasn't a liar and instead claimed everyone from me to the Durham police were biased in not saying Starmer was just as big a liar.

Now you say everyone knew Johnson was a liar from the off and factored that in to their thinking, so only biased people would point out his lies.

It's pitiful to witness.

[Bentley Bullet]

Nay lad, I see you're gaining confidence because your disciples are here to support you, but don't think you can get away with spouting your b*llocks to me. I'm made of different stuff to that!

I never said Boris wasn't a liar, and I've been consistent with my reasoning all along.

As your fwiend Mr Wiggerly said, "BB's definitely always the same."

For once, he's right.

[drfchound]

Nay lad, I see you're gaining confidence because your disciples are here to support you, but don't think you can get away with spouting your b*llocks to me. I'm made of different stuff to that!

I never said Boris wasn't a liar, and I've been consistent with my reasoning all along.

As your fwiend Mr Wiggerly said, "BB's definitely always the same."

For once, he's right.

….and unusually, not aggressive.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Nay lad, I see you're gaining confidence because your disciples are here to support you, but don't think you can get away with spouting your b*llocks to me. I'm made of different stuff to that!

I never said Boris wasn't a liar, and I've been consistent with my reasoning all along.

As your fwiend Mr Wiggerly said, "BB's definitely always the same."

For once, he's right.

….and unusually, not aggressive.

I leave that to BB these days.

[BigH]

39. Our final conclusion is in relation to sanction. Although Mr Johnson’s resignation
as an MP renders it impossible for a sanction of suspension to be imposed, we draw
attention to the fact that before the events of Friday 9 June we had provisionally
agreed to recommend a suspension long enough to engage the provisions of the
Recall of MPs Act. In the light of Mr Johnson’s further contempts, we put on
record that if he had not resigned his seat, we would have recommended that he be
suspended from the service of the House for 90 days for repeated contempts and for
seeking to undermine the parliamentary process, by:
• Deliberately misleading the House
• Deliberately misleading the Committee
• Breaching confidence
• Impugning the Committee and thereby undermining the democratic process of
the House
• Being complicit in the campaign of abuse and attempted intimidation of the
Committee
In view of the fact that Mr Johnson is no longer a Member, we recommend that he should
not be granted a former Member’s pass. (Paragraph 229)

Bunch of lefties eh BB?

[Bentley Bullet]

You tell me BigH.

[BigH]

Well 4 tory MPs, 1 SNP, 2 Labour.

Let's see what Monday brings with the MP vote.

Any self-respecting tory - sorry leftie - will vote for it on Monday.

That this chump was ever made PM is a national scandal. Really is.

[Bentley Bullet]

As an alternative to Corbyn, what did you expect?