BBC presenter

[normal rules]

Here is my take on the whole thing.

It has been intimated that the now 20 yr old no longer lives with his mum and step dad. It is now clear that his mum in particular has an issue with evidence she alleges to have seen and presented to the sun.
Her son however disputes this saying nothing inappropriate happened.
This would suggest that the all is not well relationship wise in that family.
Mum wants to do right by her son and wants payments to stop to kerb sons drug habit.
Son however disputes the account. Why?
Now the devil will be in the detail with this sorry tale, but this I do know: if this lad is still using drugs , and there is still funding from the alleged presenter or promise of continued funding, then there will be no stronger motivation for the lad to want these allegations to go away.
And of course , whoever the mystery presenter is will want this to end.
But Pandora’s box, for both of them has been opened, and it’s going to take some closing.
Even without a criminal prosecution, the beeb have a hot potato to handle. Something they are not good at.
I’m unsure if there is case law for the eventuality of a historic allegation of CSE where the child is now an adult who does not support a prosecution.
Policing by consent means just that. The mum cannot now represent her son because he is now an adult.

[Dagenham Rover]

I did hear the BBc have a new gameshow "The Masked Presenter"

[Colin C No.3]

Sorry normal rules but if this poor bugger is on crack, he’s not thinking long term he’s thinking about his next fix i.e., asap.

So if, for example, he’s offered by his abuser £x today to keep his mouth shut with possible future £x amounts in the future as opposed to £xx today, his habit will grab for that £xx today.

He’s the sad victim here who I’ve no doubt his abuser will have been well aware of. Vulnerability entices predators & worse.

[normal rules]

Sorry normal rules but if this poor bugger is on crack, he’s not thinking long term he’s thinking about his next fix i.e., asap.

So if, for example, he’s offered by his abuser £x today to keep his mouth shut with possible future £x amounts in the future as opposed to £xx today, his habit will grab for that £xx today.

He’s the sad victim here who I’ve no doubt his abuser will have been well aware of. Vulnerability entices predators & worse.

My comment about strong motivation was exactly that. We are on the same page. If he is under the illusion that this presenter will be continuing to stump up cash for his habit, then all his common sense will be out the window.

[wilts rover]

The Sc*m said on Monday the family had not spoken to the BBC despite contacting them on 19th May.

The Sc*m says today the family spoke to the BBC for an hour after the BBC contacted them in May.

The lawyer of the young man who the story is about contacted the Sc*m on Friday giving a statement on the story. The Sc*m refused to carry this.

Lot of people putting a lot of faith in what the Sc*m is saying without asking how accurate/truthful that is. Wonder why?

[rich1471]

He's not presenting the news at 10

he did say in 2021 it might be time to Stepdown from news at ten , allegedly when the first images were sent ,so how long has it been know by the BBC and why now has this only come into the public eye .

[DRFC_AjA]

Two massive things the police have said so far... 1) there is no active investigation because there is no evidence..... 2) they've only received a complaint from one party ie the BBC

Part 1 might change depending on what really is going on with this poor lad caught in the middle. But until then we absolutely do not have a right to know who it is. John Lelsie, Cliff Richard, absolutely ruined by baseless allegations

Part 2 suggests the parents were that worried the first thing they did was ring the Sun for their ££££ and not the police

And as someone has already said the Sc*m knew on Friday that the lad didn't agree with the facts of the story but they published it anyway.

Anyone who buys this rag really needs to have a word with themselves!!!!

[MachoMadness]

Funnily enough the only party involved in this we absolutely know has solicited images from an underage person is... The Sun, who have printed topless photos of 16 year old girls on page 3.

[normal rules]

Two massive things the police have said so far... 1) there is no active investigation because there is no evidence..... 2) they've only received a complaint from one party ie the BBC

Part 1 might change depending on what really is going on with this poor lad caught in the middle. But until then we absolutely do not have a right to know who it is. John Lelsie, Cliff Richard, absolutely ruined by baseless allegations

Part 2 suggests the parents were that worried the first thing they did was ring the Sun for their ££££ and not the police

And as someone has already said the Sc*m knew on Friday that the lad didn't agree with the facts of the story but they published it anyway.

Anyone who buys this rag really needs to have a word with themselves!!!!

On point 1, the police have said there is no evidence. No evidence and not seen evidence are two very different things. The 20 yr old sounds like a non witness to this . Or a “hostile “ witness.  So there is unlikely to be any evidence, if held, from his side.

[normal rules]

How on earth can the BBC investigation be “rigorous and swift”.  Last time I checked, the BBC are not a law enforcement body.
They can ask questions all they like. The subject is under no obligation to answer them. Utterly futile. And I’m sure he will be getting some pretty decent legal advice.
They have no power to delve into bank accounts. Which is where the payment evidence will clearly lie. They have no power to seize and interrogate electronic devices capable of sending messages .
And then they are left with a decision based on an allegation by the then child’s mother as to how to deal with it.
Love or loathe the scum newspaper, but they have opened a can of worms here that will take some closing.

[Bristol Red Rover]

It's always worth remembering that whilst high profile cases like this deservedly get ultra attention and usually justice, less high profile cases tend to get less justice. Such is our system.

What justice was meted out to Boris Johnson?

You don’t get much more high profile than being a lying PM.

Johnson should be boiled and thrown to the fish for sure but I was meaning specifically within underage sexual abuse/misconduct cases.

[normal rules]

There are suggestions now that the presenter will never be formally identified given the material key witness will not support any prosecution. Furthermore, the bbc will be left with little option other than to last the presenter off and pay him off probably very substantially, as their tenure at the beeb will be untenable. More good use of licence fees coming our way.

[ravenrover]

15 MPs currently suspended for sexual, bullying or gambling scandals. I don't hear "Richie" demanding prompt investigation and action on them

[DRFC_AjA]

There are suggestions now that the presenter will never be formally identified given the material key witness will not support any prosecution. Furthermore, the bbc will be left with little option other than to last the presenter off and pay him off probably very substantially, as their tenure at the beeb will be untenable. More good use of licence fees coming our way.

Yes I'm also extremely happy my hard earned wage doesn't contribute to the 1.3m pound pay pack of that lefty windbag liniker 

[normal rules]

Bbc now ordered to pause their internal investigation as the Police taking another look at this.

I’d bet a small wager the BBC corporate Investigation dept had no idea that indecent images at age 17 was illegal. A very common lack of understanding regarding age of consent for sex and age of consent for images. Not that it will ever be disclosed. I’d love to see their case file log for this. It will be a catalogue of f**k ups.
The only reason they treat it seriously was probably because of the reputational damage it would cause them.

This is easy to bottom out. Metpol get one of their Financial Intel Officers to identify the accounts linked to the suspect. Then do pre order enquiries ( which you don’t need a court order for ) on these accounts for the time period that the child was 17. Look for unusual sums ( one rumoured to be 5k) being transferred to the same account. From there the reasonable suspicion is heightened to the point where you have corroboration for the info given so far. The rest would be down to the CPS. Minus a key witness, would it be in the public interest to prosecute? Can the crime ( if crimed) be looked upon retrospectively with a child victim, without their consent?  This I am unsure of. There may be case law on this, but not that I am aware of.
With the lad possibly still being a crack addict, this whole saga may boil down to who has the deepest pockets? I can’t imagine he is paying for his own legal advice for starters?

[Bristol Red Rover]

I don't doubt this is serious, but it's now getting into the drama side of things, getting spun and spun. It makes me wonder who on earth might like a long running front page story like this to smudge over other news

[rich1471]

A second person has come forward now and made accusations

[normal rules]

A second person has come forward now and made accusations

This presenters right to privacy is slowly being eroded.
As I said in an earlier post. More to this there is.
If this presenter has been in the online space wanting to engage with “young” people, it won’t be confined to just one. It’s just a case of how many come forward. His bank account will make very interesting viewing.

[Donnywolf]

A second person has come forward now and made accusations

Which now makes the retraction by the original person ( made by a crack* Lawyer based on Belgravia ) look even more ridiculous

* No pun intended but where has this person got the money for a crack Lawyer ?

Looks like Nudga was right all along

[wilts rover]

A second person has come forward now and made accusations

Which now makes the retraction by the original person ( made by a crack* Lawyer based on Belgravia ) look even more ridiculous

* No pun intended but where has this person got the money for a crack Lawyer ?

Looks like Nudga was right all along

Where has the person (with an Only Fans account) who was paid a substantial sum by an unamed BBC presenter got the money for a lawyer?

Hmmm...

Why did his mother and step-father go The Sc*m when he didn't want them to?

[drfchound]

A second person has come forward now and made accusations

This presenters right to privacy is slowly being eroded.
As I said in an earlier post. More to this there is.
If this presenter has been in the online space wanting to engage with “young” people, it won’t be confined to just one. It’s just a case of how many come forward. His bank account will make very interesting viewing.

NR, sorry mate, I had to smile at the part of your post which says “more to this there is”.
Just my weird sense of humour but I imagined you saying it in a Yoda accent.

[scawsby steve]

Two people have now come forward. One has said that the presenter agreed to meet them, which would at that time have broken Covid rules.

The net's closing in.

[Colin C No.3]

I hope I read your post correctly in that ‘the net is closing’ as opposed to ‘the Met’ is closing otherwise we’re al f***ed!

[rich1471]

Two people have now come forward. One has said that the presenter agreed to meet them, which would at that time have broken Covid rules.

The net's closing in.

don't think him breaking COVID rules is the worst thing he has done

[roverstillidie91]

Been very quiet on George Osborne (Who lets remember austerity measures has killed countless thousands of people) & Boris Johnson not handing in his mobile phone?

Quiet in regards to the mainstream media.

[normal rules]

South wales police now been in touch with the Met and the Beeb about the welfare of an adult linked to this case. I’m guessing this is the un named presenter. Hmm . So he has connections to wales and may be suffering mental health issues or perhaps has done in the past? The jigsaw pieces are falling into place .

[Glyn_Wigley]

I thought everybody connected to this case was an adult..?

[normal rules]

I thought everybody connected to this case was an adult..?

I’m not so sure the south wales police would be contacting the beeb and the met about anyone other than the un named presenter

[andy didcott]

Huw Edwards it is then.

[Donnywolf]

Officially now his Wife names him 1800 hours