BBC presenter

[belton rover]

Receiving hospital treatment for severe mental health issues.
A sad story all round.

[redwine]

Been very quiet on George Osborne (Who lets remember austerity measures has killed countless thousands of people) & Boris Johnson not handing in his mobile phone?

Quiet in regards to the mainstream media.

Nice dead cat for them

[MachoMadness]

The Met have just confirmed nothing they've seen indicates a crime has been committed.

It sounds like the guy had a thing for his Onlyfans models and could be a dick on the dating apps, but that's not really a scandal worth losing his career over. Questions have to be asked over the Sun seemingly rushing a story out to further their anti BBC agenda. A pretty disgusting episode for the tabloid press, once again.

Now his inappropriate behaviour towards colleagues that's been alleged - that potentially is something that should cost him his job depending on their nature and seriousness. But that's nothing to do with his sex life, and shouldn't see the kind of lurid reporting we've seen over the weekend.

[ncRover]

So the young people and associated family members with concerns should have just kept their mouths shut?

[wilts rover]

So the young people and associated family members with concerns should have just kept their mouths shut?

The young person at the centre of the row did keep his mouth shut. In fact he said nothing illegal had happened. His lawyer wrote to the Sc*m to say as much - and the Sc*m not only refused to interview him but refused to print it.

The BBC should have acted quicker to check out these allegations when they were first made to ascertain the truth and IF Edwards has been abusing his position.

Because the police say he hasn't done anything criminal. And the Sc*m say they haven't actually seen any evidence.

What this actually seems to be is a family feud and jealousy that the Sc*m have used to further their anti-BBC agenda (& why would the tax dodging, multi-millionaire Sc*m owner Murdoch would want to destabilise a rival broadcaster - I shall leave that for you to ponder).

[ncRover]

I know that’s not what you think MM but if the BBC had dealt the serious allegations properly at the time (allegations that that if true would have been 10 years in prison) they would have suspended him and it would have got out in the open anyway.

Huw is not the only victim here.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

But if he's done nothing illegal it's frankly none of any of our business and he does not deserve to lose his job over it.

What his family think of anything is a private matter aswell.  I daresay there's people we associate with daily who've done worse and we have no idea at all.

[DonnyOsmond]

Basically The Sun has outed a man with severe mental health issues, and potentially ruined his marriage and life for a few extra quid. Horrific people.

[normal rules]

35 grand is a lot of Money for “nothing “
This has been rumbling on for more than long enough for any evidence that did exist to have been disposed of .

[BillyStubbsTears]

35 grand is a lot of Money for “nothing “
This has been rumbling on for more than long enough for any evidence that did exist to have been disposed of .

A couple of days ago you were saying that everything would be clear once the Met checked his financial affairs. Make your mind up.

[IDM]

But if he's done nothing illegal it's frankly none of any of our business and he does not deserve to lose his job over it.

What his family think of anything is a private matter aswell.  I daresay there's people we associate with daily who've done worse and we have no idea at all.

Some things are not illegal, but are just plain wrong.

I’m in my 50s and it is perfectly lawful for me to have sex with as many 16 year olds as would consent.

I think all of us would agree that’s morally abhorrent?

[DonnyOsmond]

But if he's done nothing illegal it's frankly none of any of our business and he does not deserve to lose his job over it.

What his family think of anything is a private matter aswell.  I daresay there's people we associate with daily who've done worse and we have no idea at all.

Some things are not illegal, but are just plain wrong.

I’m in my 50s and it is perfectly lawful for me to have sex with as many 16 year olds as would consent.

I think all of us would agree that’s morally abhorrent?

Is it anyone but you and your families business though?

[IDM]

If I choose to make myself a “personality” to the public who pay my wages then I put myself on a pedestal.

The details of what he’s done and why, perhaps could remain private other than in a court of law..

[MachoMadness]

I know that’s not what you think MM but if the BBC had dealt the serious allegations properly at the time (allegations that that if true would have been 10 years in prison) they would have suspended him and it would have got out in the open anyway.

Huw is not the only victim here.

Two separate police forces looked into it and found nothing illegal. The only witness who knows the truth of what happened denies anything untoward happened. The allegations then changed months after they were first reported to the BBC with new details, presumably the false one that the young person was underage at the time. Parents disapproving of their (adult) kid pursuing a career in porn and selling a story to the Sun aren't victims.

The Sun's reporting on this is a disgrace and they very nearly have blood on their hands because of it.

[DonnyOsmond]

If I choose to make myself a “personality” to the public who pay my wages then I put myself on a pedestal.

The details of what he’s done and why, perhaps could remain private other than in a court of law..

It's not in the publics interests to know what kind of porn a news presenter likes, unless it's anything illegal which the police have confirmed it isn't.

[normal rules]

35 grand is a lot of Money for “nothing “
This has been rumbling on for more than long enough for any evidence that did exist to have been disposed of .

A couple of days ago you were saying that everything would be clear once the Met checked his financial affairs. Make your mind up.

With no criminal investigation, they obviously have not got that far. Or didn’t want to. Or were advised against it. No complaint. No crime. Simple as that.  The police haven’t SEEN anything criminal. Doesn’t mean it didn’t exist. Don’t forget the adult “victim” is a hostile witness. They didn’t want to make a complaint. They said nothing untoward happened. But they were/ are on the payroll of HE.
The victim and HE have had plenty of time to get rid of any incriminating evidence and collude stories. And they have every reason to. It’s the family that blew the whistle.
No smoke without fire. 35 grand! Payments starting when the child was 17. For what exactly?
The payments have not been in dispute. Giving a child money is not illegal in itself. But what would an A list, high profile, media public figure be spending this sort of money on.” Catalogue “ shots of some 17 yr old in a roll neck sweater and jeans ?
Seriously?
The criminal side of this may have gone away, for now.
Let’s wait and see what happens when the money for the crack addict runs out.

[normal rules]

But if he's done nothing illegal it's frankly none of any of our business and he does not deserve to lose his job over it.

What his family think of anything is a private matter aswell.  I daresay there's people we associate with daily who've done worse and we have no idea at all.

Some things are not illegal, but are just plain wrong.

I’m in my 50s and it is perfectly lawful for me to have sex with as many 16 year olds as would consent.

I think all of us would agree that’s morally abhorrent?

If you took indecent pics of yourself having sex with a 16 yr old and then shared them , that’s illegal.

[ncRover]

“Porn” is putting it lightly.

For the record I think we should expect better from the Sun, the BBC and Huw Edwards.

Huw’s wife he’s lied to is a victim in this I meant.

Allegations of further inappropriate behaviour being made by BBC staff.

[normal rules]

Here’s another question.
3 years ago, HE was 58. What sort of arena, online platform etc was he exploring to make contact with a 17 yr old drug user?
Was it an online crotchet forum?
Or perhaps cooking?
New allegations over abuse of power within the beeb. Suggestive inappropriate comments made to junior staff members .
Dishonest infidelity with his wife of many years.
Meeting another during lockdown in another county.
It doesn’t look good does it?

[DonnyOsmond]

Here’s another question.
3 years ago, HE was 58. What sort of arena, online platform etc was he exploring to make contact with a 17 yr old drug user?
Was it an online crotchet forum?
Or perhaps cooking?
New allegations over abuse of power within the beeb. Suggestive inappropriate comments made to junior staff members .
Dishonest infidelity with his wife of many years.
Meeting another during lockdown in another county.
It doesn’t look good does it?

From what I've read, didn't Huw find the other person on OnlyFans, where you need to say you are 18 or over to join.

[MachoMadness]

 Just remember, the Sun lied about the young person being 17. They lied by omission by not printing his denial in the initial story. And they keep backtracking further and further every day. Thats enough to cast doubt on every other aspect of the story. Very troubling some are taking a guilty until proven innocent stance in here.

[normal rules]

I was not aware and I don’t think it had been made official that the platform
Was only fans . So right there is the defence . HE would have readily believed that the person at the other end was 18 . And so it’s no surprise a criminal case has not even been opened .

[IDM]

But if he's done nothing illegal it's frankly none of any of our business and he does not deserve to lose his job over it.

What his family think of anything is a private matter aswell.  I daresay there's people we associate with daily who've done worse and we have no idea at all.

Some things are not illegal, but are just plain wrong.

I’m in my 50s and it is perfectly lawful for me to have sex with as many 16 year olds as would consent.

I think all of us would agree that’s morally abhorrent?

If you took indecent pics of yourself having sex with a 16 yr old and then shared them , that’s illegal.

Yes but that wasn’t my point.

My point was there are behaviours which are legal, but which are morally wrong.  Adultery isn’t illegal (in this country) for example, but that’s quite tame.

What’s different about cases like this one is that these are public figures who may have used their status to influence what’s gone on.  That’s a matter for bbc disciplinary procedures, but I agree as discussed here earlier, the precise details could remain private to those who need to know.

[rich1471]

Here’s another question.
3 years ago, HE was 58. What sort of arena, online platform etc was he exploring to make contact with a 17 yr old drug user?
Was it an online crotchet forum?
Or perhaps cooking?
New allegations over abuse of power within the beeb. Suggestive inappropriate comments made to junior staff members .
Dishonest infidelity with his wife of many years.
Meeting another during lockdown in another county.
It doesn’t look good does it?

From what I've read, didn't Huw find the other person on OnlyFans, where you need to say you are 18 or over to join.

All the evidence coming out looks like he did not illegal, moraly wrong but like I said to a work colleague not illegal

[DonnyOsmond]

Here’s another question.
3 years ago, HE was 58. What sort of arena, online platform etc was he exploring to make contact with a 17 yr old drug user?
Was it an online crotchet forum?
Or perhaps cooking?
New allegations over abuse of power within the beeb. Suggestive inappropriate comments made to junior staff members .
Dishonest infidelity with his wife of many years.
Meeting another during lockdown in another county.
It doesn’t look good does it?

From what I've read, didn't Huw find the other person on OnlyFans, where you need to say you are 18 or over to join.

All the evidence coming out looks like he did not illegal, moraly wrong but like I said to a work colleague not illegal

Agree and that should just be between him and his wife, not the whole country.

[Filo]

Trial by social media, it’s the norm these days

[drfchound]

Absolutely and we have plenty of that on this very forum.

[Glyn_Wigley]

It looks to me as if the family smelt money and The Sun was only too happy to give it to them so they could smear the BBC.

[Bentley Bullet]

If there was no market for smear campaigns there wouldn't be any. Unfortunately,  searching on the media for them is a hobby for many of us, and the Sun is merely one of those outlets that exploit it.

[Iberian Red]

Absolutely and we have plenty of that on this very forum.

This post is a prime example