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DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #120 on July 15, 2023, 10:05:49 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
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"Some of the feedback is not great on Adeji...." is what he said.

He did say that, DBR, but just before it he said “different types of feedback comes back”. I interpret that as some good some bad!

Of course that's the implication but he certainly didn't say it was just bad feedback.

I think we all know McCann is saying he's weighed up the risk and is looking forward to polishing a rough diamond.

Who knows what's between the lads ears, it's definitely not been plain sailing for him. He may have a bit a chip on his shoulder wondering how he's found himself where he is.  Maybe similar to Reo who received high praise as a youth and perhaps thought everything would fall into his path. (Although in Reo's case, it looks like he's had some body issues and is struggling physically). Sooner or later they have to accept where they are and only then can they move forward. The tests will come quickly so we'll have to see how he conducts himself when things go wrong, which they inevitably will from time to time. Hopefully, he'll show the good stuff too and relish the challenge.



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Bessie Red

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #121 on July 15, 2023, 10:23:13 pm by Bessie Red »
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"Some of the feedback is not great on Adeji...." is what he said.

He did say that, DBR, but just before it he said “different types of feedback comes back”. I interpret that as some good some bad!

Of course that's the implication but he certainly didn't say it was just bad feedback.

I think we all know McCann is saying he's weighed up the risk and is looking forward to polishing a rough diamond.

Who knows what's between the lads ears, it's definitely not been plain sailing for him. He may have a bit a chip on his shoulder wondering how he's found himself where he is.  Maybe similar to Reo who received high praise as a youth and perhaps thought everything would fall into his path. (Although in Reo's case, it looks like he's had some body issues and is struggling physically). Sooner or later they have to accept where they are and only then can they move forward. The tests will come quickly so we'll have to see how he conducts himself when things go wrong, which they inevitably will from time to time. Hopefully, he'll show the good stuff too and relish the challenge.
I'm sure his contract (salary) will reflect the obvious risk of signing him. It may be a sliding scale type of contract where it is based on milestones (appearances, assist etc) and may be reviewed after a year. We will not have spent a massive amount financially on this signing Im pretty sure of that.

Colin C No.3

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #122 on July 15, 2023, 11:08:27 pm by Colin C No.3 »
Signed for 2 years.

And?…Another ‘Reo type’ or is it time to hold your hands up & defer to Grant?

A little bit of humble pie might just ‘settle your stomach’ for future knee jerk ‘throw away’ comments?

anton123

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #123 on July 16, 2023, 08:23:32 am by anton123 »

anton123

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #124 on July 16, 2023, 08:24:38 am by anton123 »
This ain’t no Adien Barlow lads , I’m sure he will need coaching but I’m confident we have a good one here

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #125 on July 16, 2023, 09:48:52 am by Lesonthewest »
Watching his videos he could be the new McIndoe, with a bit more pace! Certainly looks like one to get us off our seats anyway. Great signing, welcome Deji.

Alan Southstand

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« Reply #126 on July 16, 2023, 10:28:31 am by Alan Southstand »
Tyler Roberts - 16 replies
Deji Sotona - over 100 replies

The difference between a loan and a contracted signing?

GazLaz

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #127 on July 16, 2023, 10:47:27 am by GazLaz »
Signed for 2 years.

And?…Another ‘Reo type’ or is it time to hold your hands up & defer to Grant?

A little bit of humble pie might just ‘settle your stomach’ for future knee jerk ‘throw away’ comments?

What are you on about?? Let’s see how he gets on and we can pick up this conversation at the end or the season.

Colin C No.3

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #128 on July 16, 2023, 10:54:41 am by Colin C No.3 »
Signed for 2 years.

And?…Another ‘Reo type’ or is it time to hold your hands up & defer to Grant?

A little bit of humble pie might just ‘settle your stomach’ for future knee jerk ‘throw away’ comments?

What are you on about?? Let’s see how he gets on and we can pick up this conversation at the end or the season.
I’m on about the comparison with Reo you made on a player you’ve never seen play yet those who have are raving about him & GM has just given him a two year contract.

I look forward to embarrassing you with that comment next May.

GazLaz

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #129 on July 16, 2023, 11:22:51 am by GazLaz »
Signed for 2 years.

And?…Another ‘Reo type’ or is it time to hold your hands up & defer to Grant?

A little bit of humble pie might just ‘settle your stomach’ for future knee jerk ‘throw away’ comments?

What are you on about?? Let’s see how he gets on and we can pick up this conversation at the end or the season.
I’m on about the comparison with Reo you made on a player you’ve never seen play yet those who have are raving about him & GM has just given him a two year contract.

I look forward to embarrassing you with that comment next May.

His profile is pretty much exactly the same as Reo’s. People were hyped up over him signing and look what’s happened there.

This may end up being a great signing, I’ve never said that’s impossible. These type of signings tend to end up being underwhelming more than they prove to be hitting the jackpot.

By the way, it’s absolutely impossible for you to embarrass me.

Even if he scores 20 goals and leaves for 10m in the summer I’m perfectly happy with how I am assessing the signing. I know the relative chances of these types of gambles working out.

ravenrover

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #130 on July 16, 2023, 11:41:03 am by ravenrover »
But doesn't want him to fail!

GazLaz

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #131 on July 16, 2023, 11:59:00 am by GazLaz »
But doesn't want him to fail!

I honestly don’t know how anyone can think a supporter wants signings to fail.

People don’t seem to understand the concept of opinion. They can and do change. Perhaps yours and Colin C’s don’t so you can’t grasp this!

It is entirely possible to be underwhelmed with a signing or think it’s unlikely to prove to be a good one long term and be pleasantly surprised when proved wrong.

I don’t want to see us playing in a mug league. I want us to get promoted and start playing proper teams again as much as anyone. If you think I travel around the country watching us play want img the players to fail you are deranged.

roversdude

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #132 on July 16, 2023, 01:56:15 pm by roversdude »
I can’t see anywhere where Gaz has hinted that he hopes Deji fails tbh

Barmby Rover

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #133 on July 16, 2023, 03:24:04 pm by Barmby Rover »
Nobody wants a player to fail, I hope Deji goes on to be a top player, but there is no need for people to get over-enthusiastic about any player when we haven't even seen him play a league match. He has the possibility of being good with his speed and what we have seen of his ability, but it is like any other pre-season, wait and see, pass judgment after a dozen or more games in the league.

drfcsteve

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #134 on July 16, 2023, 05:42:16 pm by drfcsteve »
No one can say if he’s a world beater or not based on 45 mins against non league and some YouTube clips playing against academy players.

Grant has signed him but that doesn’t mean he’s a guaranteed success, just that he thinks he’s worth taking the risk on. Let’s hope he settles and has a good season.

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #135 on July 16, 2023, 06:22:25 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
He has pace going for him at least. Reo never seemed that quick and Barlow, who I’d class as similar in terms of taking a chance on, wasn’t particularly fast either.

Also at present we are lacking pace so he’s a chance of more game time just by been different to what we’ve got.

BigH

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #136 on July 16, 2023, 07:23:54 pm by BigH »
Usain Bolt fancied himself as a footballer and didn’t do better than the Australian A League. Pace isn’t everything.

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #137 on July 16, 2023, 07:38:49 pm by normal rules »
He is here to stay by the looks of it. He has everything to play for,  and a chance to shine .
Rovers are surely due some good fortune in the recruitment dept .

Avsuptem

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #138 on July 16, 2023, 08:21:02 pm by Avsuptem »
So much in sport is down to attitude. Eg the Kevin Keegan factor. Not the most gifted of players but one of the  best of his generation in terms of passion, effort and consequent performance. Judging from Deji's interview he does not come across as Mr Charisma but more of a reserved and shy type so we have to hope that his football does the talking.

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #139 on July 16, 2023, 09:20:00 pm by ravenrover »
I can’t see anywhere where Gaz has hinted that he hopes Deji fails tbh
Sadly looking back on his comments they haven't been exactly gushing with praise or excitement at Deji signing. I haven't seen his cameo appearance at Boston I don't know if Gaz did or not or if he is going off the stats he tells us he looks at,  but others were  quite excited at the prospect of signing him.
To me, and I'm sure Gaz will disagree,  his comments have come over as a little lacking in optimism and has made his mind or opinion up  from his 1st post onwards, hence my thoughts about him expecting him to fail. As he says let's look at it again at the end of the season to see whether Gaz is right with his "not for me" initial comment.
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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #140 on July 16, 2023, 09:50:34 pm by ChrisBx »
I can’t see anywhere where Gaz has hinted that he hopes Deji fails tbh
Sadly looking back on his comments they haven't been exactly gushing with praise or excitement at Deji signing. I haven't seen his cameo appearance at Boston I don't know if Gaz did or not or if he is going off the stats he tells us he looks at,  but others were  quite excited at the prospect of signing him.
To me, and I'm sure Gaz will disagree,  his comments have come over as a little lacking in optimism and has made his mind or opinion up  from his 1st post onwards, hence my thoughts about him expecting him to fail. As he says let's look at it again at the end of the season to see whether Gaz is right with his "not for me" initial comment.

It's football. People have opinions.

roversdude

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #141 on July 16, 2023, 10:18:21 pm by roversdude »
I was at Boston and have tried to temper my enthusiasm by adding “based on the 45minutes I saw against lower league opposition” however I’m slightly giddy about this signing

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #142 on July 16, 2023, 10:26:54 pm by Bentley Bullet »
I look at it like this, if he had a fantastic career so far and all the feedback about him was great, he wouldn't have even been trialling with us, never mind signing.

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #143 on July 16, 2023, 10:27:36 pm by drfchound »
I usually like to see a player two or three times before I form my opinion on how good they might be for us.
Those you tube clips only show the good stuff don’t they, although the good stuff they showed on Deji were quite impressive.

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #144 on July 17, 2023, 06:48:41 am by Alan Southstand »
I can’t remember what Gaz thought about the Wilks and Kane signings, back when GM was with us the first time around, but they were probably similar about those two?

The thing that keeps popping into my mind is - what made GM sign him? He had, according to what he told us, 4 or 5 very good options on the table and couldn’t make his mind up. Then, suddenly, we signed Deji. Something tipped the balance and, if GM had seen his stats and had some negative
feedback, there must have been something really positive to outweigh the negatives. And that’s where I am - trusting GM’s opinion about him, as well as having my own ‘gut feeling’.

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« Reply #145 on July 17, 2023, 07:02:44 am by mushRTID »
I watched GM at Rossington meet the management.
He talks of another player who is at a club. He then suggests the player would compete with Miller and Ironside.

It feels like one more to come and DS is a little bit of a wildcard signing.

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #146 on July 17, 2023, 08:23:28 am by Upton Rover »
From good reliable sources this guy should become a great signing for us, he’s got all the qualities that we need, and can play in 3 positions, Our old manager DM wanted this guy at Sheffield Wednesday and Derby also wanted him, he told both clubs that he wouldn’t go if there was no guarantee of first team football, and he decided to join Viera at Nice, I will say now that he will become one of the best players for our club resulting in a good payday down the line if contracts are managed correctly.

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« Reply #147 on July 17, 2023, 08:31:59 am by andy didcott »
Upton dude, can I ask a question, could you please tell us a bit more about your sources.?

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« Reply #148 on July 17, 2023, 09:24:39 am by Metalmicky »
Will give the lad a chance and see what he has in his locker.  As others have said, it is difficult to assess a player based on 45 minutes and he has a rather average and undistinguished past.  I get the impression he has the ability to be a good player..... if he wants to put a shift in and work for it.  Anyone remember Kyle Bennett...?

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Re: Deji Sotona
« Reply #149 on July 17, 2023, 09:58:55 am by Bessie Red »
I can’t remember what Gaz thought about the Wilks and Kane signings, back when GM was with us the first time around, but they were probably similar about those two?

The thing that keeps popping into my mind is - what made GM sign him? He had, according to what he told us, 4 or 5 very good options on the table and couldn’t make his mind up. Then, suddenly, we signed Deji. Something tipped the balance and, if GM had seen his stats and had some negative
feedback, there must have been something really positive to outweigh the negatives. And that’s where I am - trusting GM’s opinion about him, as well as having my own ‘gut feeling’.
More than likely GM had a call from Deji's agent saying that he was going to trial with another team and if he wanted to sign him it was his last chance. If GM thought it was right to take the gamble then I'm fine with that!

 

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