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Google “Why does England vote Tory.” And read the result under Www.opendemocracy.net
That pretty much explains why tories do better than Labour. It’s not going to change anytime soon. Labour may get in power at the next GE . But it won’t be for long. History tells us that .

[BillyStubbsTears]

The last time Labour were elected, they won 3 elections in a row.

The time before that, they were in power for 11 years out of 15.

I'm really not sure what point you are trying to make.

[selby]

  The last time was just when the educated idiot period started Billy, and soon went down hill to what are left. the eleven year stint  they had some real credible politicians, they were different class and tried to do their best for the country when change was  at its height.
   The labour party is  a far different animal now to what it was then and those men and women, you didn't have to be a labour party member or voter to respect them.
   

[drfchound]

Google “Why does England vote Tory.” And read the result under Www.opendemocracy.net
That pretty much explains why tories do better than Labour. It’s not going to change anytime soon. Labour may get in power at the next GE . But it won’t be for long. History tells us that .

Thirty years in power in the last 120 years tells a story.

[BillyStubbsTears]

  The last time was just when the educated idiot period started Billy, and soon went down hill to what are left. the eleven year stint  they had some real credible politicians, they were different class and tried to do their best for the country when change was  at its height.
   The labour party is  a far different animal now to what it was then and those men and women, you didn't have to be a labour party member or voter to respect them.
   

Anyone?

Nope, me neither.

[SydneyRover]

  The last time was just when the educated idiot period started Billy, and soon went down hill to what are left. the eleven year stint  they had some real credible politicians, they were different class and tried to do their best for the country when change was  at its height.
   The labour party is  a far different animal now to what it was then and those men and women, you didn't have to be a labour party member or voter to respect them.
 

At last a bit if self reflection ............. I think?

[scawsby steve]

Won't be long now before the wonderful new Labour Government shows us just how much different they are to the Tories, and just how much they're on the side of working class people.

I can't wait, I've even got the popcorn ready for all the press interviews.

One thing's for certain, the shit will hit the fan big time on here.

[SydneyRover]

Won't be long now before the wonderful new Labour Government shows us just how much different they are to the Tories, and just how much they're on the side of working class people.

I can't wait, I've even got the popcorn ready for all the press interviews.

One thing's for certain, the shit will hit the fan big time on here.

I'd have thought all the popcorn in the world would have been eaten by now by those that helped this latest series of governments into power Steve, tell me have you still got the unicorn that you swapped for your principles in 2019?

[selby]

  Steve, Labour will have to win this one for us to have any fun, because if they don't there is a good chance a lot of us will be pushing up daisies before they get into power again.
   I think they have to win this election to survive and continue to be anything like the party they presently are.
   Lose and it could split into two factions.

[SydneyRover]

  Steve, Labour will have to win this one for us to have any fun, because if they don't there is a good chance a lot of us will be pushing up daisies before they get into power again.
   I think they have to win this election to survive and continue to be anything like the party they presently are.
   Lose and it could split into two factions.

You do realise selby (maybe not) that you are talking to someone that votes tory

[SydneyRover]

Well hey Steve, please excuse me for any confusion, you have along with your little coterie slammed labour since what seems like forever for absolutely everything.

And you have totally condemned labour actors for undermining corbyn and yet at the same time been a total devotee to the busted flush that is brexit.

Now in my world you are in the same leaky political boat as tyke, you either forsook your hero corbyn or you have not been truthful in your support of brexit, it can't be both aye?

Oh and give the unicorn a pat from me ............ belay that it sounds a bit weird

[DRFC_AjA]

It's going to be a labour white wash, red wash? It's almost a semi annual event with the Cons that they have a vote of no confidence in the leader yet don't get how that makes them look

[scawsby steve]

  Steve, Labour will have to win this one for us to have any fun, because if they don't there is a good chance a lot of us will be pushing up daisies before they get into power again.
   I think they have to win this election to survive and continue to be anything like the party they presently are.
   Lose and it could split into two factions.

You do realise selby (maybe not) that you are talking to someone that votes tory

An ex-miner voting Tory? You just get f*cking dafter.

[scawsby steve]

Well hey Steve, please excuse me for any confusion, you have along with your little coterie slammed labour since what seems like forever for absolutely everything.

And you have totally condemned labour actors for undermining corbyn and yet at the same time been a total devotee to the busted flush that is brexit.

Now in my world you are in the same leaky political boat as tyke, you either forsook your hero corbyn or you have not been truthful in your support of brexit, it can't be both aye?

Oh and give the unicorn a pat from me ............ belay that it sounds a bit weird

What, in the name of Christ, are you babbling on about?

[drfchound]

He does write increasingly incomprehensible posts SS doesn’t he.
It is quite ironic that he accuses you of slamming Labour forever when he does exactly the same thing with the Tory’s.
As for saying you vote Tory, where the hell does he get that from?

[tyke1962]

Well hey Steve, please excuse me for any confusion, you have along with your little coterie slammed labour since what seems like forever for absolutely everything.

And you have totally condemned labour actors for undermining corbyn and yet at the same time been a total devotee to the busted flush that is brexit.

Now in my world you are in the same leaky political boat as tyke, you either forsook your hero corbyn or you have not been truthful in your support of brexit, it can't be both aye?

Oh and give the unicorn a pat from me ............ belay that it sounds a bit weird

Here's the thing and something I've yet again posted a multitude of times .

Corbyn wasn't my hero , he had the right policies a Labour Party worthy of that name should roll out , absolutely no problem with him on that matter .

However any man who is the leader of this country that can't answer the question whether he'd push the Red Button if we were under attack shouldn't be anywhere near 10 Downing Street .

His hideous relationships with terrorists was extremely questionable and little wonder he was hated by many of the electorate .

There were many good things as I've said on economic policy during his tenure and he understood many peoples frustrations .

Unfortunately most of that credibility went out of the window when it came to the nation's security and his relationships with terrorists .

[SydneyRover]

That's not surprising for someone that voted tory aye? you don't have enough political capital to be lecturing anyone tyke, you crossed the line in 2019 and placed your trust in a lunatic.

[tyke1962]

That's not surprising for someone that voted tory aye? you don't have enough political capital to be lecturing anyone tyke, you crossed the line in 2019 and placed your trust in a lunatic.

If I'd voted for Johnson I'd have said so , why wouldn't I ?

I think what you are doing is the favourite Johnson strategy of more you tell a lie the more likely you believe it will be the truth .

You've more in common with Johnson than you actually realise .

A liar , manipulating and I suspect not very pleasant to know in the real world .

Thankfully we don't share the same country anymore .

[SydneyRover]

And that post shows exactly what you do tyke, when your brain cell lets you down you use anything to hand to start a fight rather than get to the nub of the matter which is the only thing you care about really is yourself.

[scawsby steve]

Sydney, stop coming on here and telling lies about people.

While you're at it, go and get some therapy. You seriously need it.

[SydneyRover]

very clever steve, all that time at uni paid dividends aye?

[Sprotyrover]

very clever steve, all that time at uni paid dividends aye?

Sydders needs a Check up fron the Neck up!

[BillyStubbsTears]

Here's another sign of a Govt that's fit for the tip.

When a PM manages to insult a murdered child in Parliament, while doing his Culture War thing.

I had the idea that Sunak was principled and decent. But f**k me, he's as unpleasant as any of the rest of them.

[ravenrover]

And didn't have the decency to apologise.....

[DonnyOsmond]

Well hey Steve, please excuse me for any confusion, you have along with your little coterie slammed labour since what seems like forever for absolutely everything.

And you have totally condemned labour actors for undermining corbyn and yet at the same time been a total devotee to the busted flush that is brexit.

Now in my world you are in the same leaky political boat as tyke, you either forsook your hero corbyn or you have not been truthful in your support of brexit, it can't be both aye?

Oh and give the unicorn a pat from me ............ belay that it sounds a bit weird

Here's the thing and something I've yet again posted a multitude of times .

Corbyn wasn't my hero , he had the right policies a Labour Party worthy of that name should roll out , absolutely no problem with him on that matter .

However any man who is the leader of this country that can't answer the question whether he'd push the Red Button if we were under attack shouldn't be anywhere near 10 Downing Street .

His hideous relationships with terrorists was extremely questionable and little wonder he was hated by many of the electorate .

There were many good things as I've said on economic policy during his tenure and he understood many peoples frustrations .

Unfortunately most of that credibility went out of the window when it came to the nation's security and his relationships with terrorists .

It's a hard question for any human to answer, on one hand you don't want to be a psychopath and kill a load of innocent foreigners, on the other hand you don't want to be berated by people for not wanting to kill innocent foreigners.

[BillyStubbsTears]

And didn't have the decency to apologise.....

It's really the end isn't it?

He came across as Lee Anderson with a public school accent and an expensive suit.

You expect it if a Kitson like Anderson, but I genuinely thought Sunak was better than this.

I am genuinely shocked to hear the PM of the UK resorting to this in Parliament. Just disgusting.

[Filo]

I think the time is right for Labour to call a no confidence vote, they’ll lose because the Tories are self serving and desperate to hang on for as long as possible, the Tories then back Sunak how can they then call for a leadership change then, after backing the horrible man publicly?

[BillyStubbsTears]

And the Tories are fighting like rats in a sack to be the ones who come out of this disgusting show on top.

https://twitter.com/SkyPoliticsHub/status/1755323489332994358

Badenoch is using this to hobble Sunak and press her claims to be the next leader after they get hoyed out.

Every time you think they have reached the bottom of the barrel, they scrape deeper still.

[SydneyRover]

Sunak of the right captured by the far right, I said previously the world will run out of popcon
popcorn.

[i_ateallthepies]

It's a hard question for any human to answer, on one hand you don't want to be a psychopath and kill a load of innocent foreigners, on the other hand you don't want to be berated by people for not wanting to kill innocent foreigners.

As opposed to making public a National Security policy of refusing to use the nuclear defence option thus guaranteeing, indeed inviting, any enemy state who may hold ideas of aggression to offload their nuclear arsenal on us and killing innocent UK citizens that any human elected to the position of Prime Minister is duty bound to protect.