When a Government...

[SydneyRover]

91, the thing is, the best way to look at the previous 14 years of tory rule is to compare it to the country’s waterways, as everything the tories have achieved is represented in there, swirling around.

Oh look! that one has brexit written on it, those two stuck together represent growth, that big one over there slowly sinking is the NHS …………...

The best part is anyone can jump in and test the theory for themselves.

[SydneyRover]

Theresa May on announcing her retirement is said to be moving to the Caribbean.

[SydneyRover]

To study modern slavery

[drfchound]

I can’t imagine why anyone who cares what happens in the UK would move so far away.

[drfchound]

Hebburn, according to some of its residents, has become a no go area after dark.
Article on the news this morning:

“Feral gangs of masked teenagers are terrorising communities in areas of the north-east of England.
The BBC has been told low level, anti-social behaviour (ASB) has escalated into serious and violent crime with one town described as “lawless".
New figures revealed that 40,800 reports went unattended by police in the region last year – an average of 111 calls every day.
Northumbria Police and Crime Commissioner Kim McGuinness said the response was "not good enough".
Yogendran Mutthulingham, who runs a shop in Jarrow, said: “They come with masks, which makes it scary."
He said he had been the victim of shoplifting, criminal damage and racist abuse.
“They came with a knuckle ring and a knife, they steal anything they want.
"They swear at me with the P word. They broke my house door with a kick."
Mr Mutthulingham, who lives in the flat above the shop with his family, said he felt helpless.
“My wife was crying. She almost fainted. My sister was crying," he said.
“Every night afterwards, we couldn’t sleep. Mentally we are upset all the time because of these incidents.”
After hearing what happened, the local community raised more than £1,000 to help him with repair costs, Mr Mutthulingham said.
In Hebburn, one resident said the town had become “lawless” at night.
Another, who has lived there for 60 years and did not want to be named, said it used to be a “lovely, safe town” but now the community was at “breaking point".
Criminal damage, arson, shoplifting and shop staff being threatened are a regular part of life, she claimed.
“I’ve never seen such a decline in morals and disgusting, feral behaviour“
Shop owners said they warned each other on walkie talkies if large groups were congregating.
Some said they pulled the shutters down and pretended to be closed until the groups were gone.
“They feel really intimidated,” said Lesley Little, who has owned Halo hairdressers in the town for 20 years.
“It might be a laugh and fun to them but it’s not to us as business owners," she added.
“We’re trying to earn a living but it’s hard."

[SydneyRover]

Nothing to do with Muslim hoards as the government are trying to claim?

Where are the police when you need them?

This hasn't just happened, all this shows is stretched resources of local authorities, police and government unwilling to tackle the problem.

Then you have forum members sneering that labour won't be able to fix 14+ years of wanton neglect overnight.

[DRFC_AjA]

Very good Belton.

Being serious again for a moment, I don't doubt that some MPs are being harassed and perhaps even intimidated by protesters. That shouldn't happen and action should be taken in those instances.

The issue is, extrapolating from that to claim, as the PM did yesterday, that our democratic system is under assault from mob rule. Which is quite a claim from a PM of UK.

But maybe you don't have anything to add to that issue?

Well when we've seen two MP's brutally murdered by extremists in the last 10 years and  MPs are now running a gauntlet of hate should they find themselves around Parliament Square perhaps some of these claims have meat on the bones .

Although it's nowt as bad as Barnsley town centre this afternoon , frightening scenes .

https://youtu.be/WCDJgWwzftU?si=LI2qGhIA2xWlpdEC

Then get on with the job of ensuring security for politicians. I agree 100% that needs doing and I don't need lecturing on that topic, unlike some in here who think that is part of their job.

What I don't accept is the ridiculous extrapolation from that specific issue to a claim that our entire system is under threat from mob rule. It's a huge exaggeration by a PM who is stoking Culture War flames at every single opportunity.

"Get on with ensuring security..."

So don't condone it, don't say it must stop, don't point out when it happens, dont go after the root cause (the violent far left) Just throw more police at it 

The BNP are currently outside a Rochdale MPs house. Placards with "holy war agaisnt sex pests" on them. They're also smashing up the shops of anyone who looks Muslim and sells Pepsi. Someone who works at the passport office has marked a Muslim person's passport application. You wouldn't call this out and call them a racist mob would you? You'd say put more security on it. Freedom of expression

Nope what you'd do is rightly point out that they're a racist mob trying to divide the country into camps, us vs them, you must be on our side or against us etc. Now be a good boy and replace the British flag with a Palestine flag and etc

[Sprotyrover]

Syd said “Nothing to do with Muslim hoards as the government are trying to claim?”
Sprotyrover says:
Clearly we can’t cope with home grown Anti Social Criminals so why import more potential Criminal types!

[Sprotyrover]

Nothing to do with Muslim hoards as the government are trying to claim?

Where are the police when you need them?

This hasn't just happened, all this shows is stretched resources of local authorities, police and government unwilling to tackle the problem.

Then you have forum members sneering that labour won't be able to fix 14+ years of wanton neglect overnight.

It’s interesting to see comments from somebody who abandoned the UK over a decade ago,what’s up Syd darent you goin an Ozzie Chat group? Soon would get found out wouldn’t you?

[SydneyRover]

Nothing to do with Muslim hoards as the government are trying to claim?

Where are the police when you need them?

This hasn't just happened, all this shows is stretched resources of local authorities, police and government unwilling to tackle the problem.

Then you have forum members sneering that labour won't be able to fix 14+ years of wanton neglect overnight.

It’s interesting to see comments from somebody who abandoned the UK over a decade ago,what’s up Syd darent you goin an Ozzie Chat group? Soon would get found out wouldn’t you?

Instead of wasting your time making shit up you should be getting your kit ready for tonight, aye?

[Sprotyrover]

Nothing to do with Muslim hoards as the government are trying to claim?

Where are the police when you need them?

This hasn't just happened, all this shows is stretched resources of local authorities, police and government unwilling to tackle the problem.

Then you have forum members sneering that labour won't be able to fix 14+ years of wanton neglect overnight.

It’s interesting to see comments from somebody who abandoned the UK over a decade ago,what’s up Syd darent you goin an Ozzie Chat group? Soon would get found out wouldn’t you?

Instead of wasting your time making shit up you should be getting your kit ready for tonight, aye?

That’s the second occasion in a week, you have made offensive remarks towards me, are you alleging I’m I am some sort of pervert?

[SydneyRover]

You can make up your own labels sprot, I'm only going on what you posted about your nigh time habits

If anyone wants to look it will be under 'dogging'

not sure what it means though

[Sprotyrover]

You can make up your own labels sprot, I'm only going on what you posted about your nigh time habits

If anyone wants to look it will be under 'dogging'

not sure what it means though

That’s a very offensive remark!
You better evidence that, I am not happy
With your disgusting accusations!

[RobTheRover]

I can’t imagine why anyone who cares what happens in the UK would move so far away.

First rule of crim club is never revisit the scene of the crime.

[SydneyRover]

You can make up your own labels sprot, I'm only going on what you posted about your nigh time habits

If anyone wants to look it will be under 'dogging'

not sure what it means though

That’s a very offensive remark!
You better evidence that, I am not happy
With your disgusting accusations!

Here's where it's mentioned sprot, although you can explain what dogging means, how close you had to get to see the detail and why you were there I guess.

Sproty:

''a couple of miles further onto the Escarpment!
It would be sleepy if it weren’t for the Eastern European bodger builder Fly Tippers, the late middle aged  men ‘Dogging’ ! The shirt fronts roaring up and down the fields and lanes on Off Road Bikes and Quads, the Deer poachers, hare coursers Lamping all night, idiots trying to break the Land speed record on the straight mile, the Drug dealers and their adolescent Vauxhall Corsa Driving (badly) clients, shirt fronts having a drive out to an area of outstanding national beauty and trying to bring down to their level by chucking the remains of Macdonalds and KFC’s and tins of cheep Lager and Cider wherever it pleases them! Apart from that relatively sleepy''

[drfchound]

You can make up your own labels sprot, I'm only going on what you posted about your nigh time habits

If anyone wants to look it will be under 'dogging'

not sure what it means though

That’s a very offensive remark!
You better evidence that, I am not happy
With your disgusting accusations!

Here's where it's mentioned sprot, although you can explain what dogging means, how close you had to get to see the detail and why you were there I guess.

Sproty:

''a couple of miles further onto the Escarpment!
It would be sleepy if it weren’t for the Eastern European bodger builder Fly Tippers, the late middle aged  men ‘Dogging’ ! The shirt fronts roaring up and down the fields and lanes on Off Road Bikes and Quads, the Deer poachers, hare coursers Lamping all night, idiots trying to break the Land speed record on the straight mile, the Drug dealers and their adolescent Vauxhall Corsa Driving (badly) clients, shirt fronts having a drive out to an area of outstanding national beauty and trying to bring down to their level by chucking the remains of Macdonalds and KFC’s and tins of cheep Lager and Cider wherever it pleases them! Apart from that relatively sleepy''

Syd, if you read that again you will see that sproty doesn’t say he had been dogging, but others had seen people doing it.
It seems that it is you who is making things up, yet again.

[Sprotyrover]

Actually it was a local farmers wife who witnessed middle aged men engaging in sexual activity and it was reported to the Police, who have taken proactive action lasr week 5 late middle aged men were caught by the Police local Safer neighbourhood team and dealt with.
As for Syds remarks he is a complete Troll and really
 does need to be excluded from this Forum!

[SydneyRover]

Actually it was a local farmers wife who witnessed middle aged men engaging in sexual activity and it was reported to the Police, who have taken proactive action lasr week 5 late middle aged men were caught by the Police local Safer neighbourhood team and dealt with.
As for Syds remarks he is a complete Troll and really
 does need to be excluded from this Forum!

but you didn't say any of this aye? did you tell the police how you were out at night with your bit stick 'helping' them?

[Sprotyrover]

Actually it was a local farmers wife who witnessed middle aged men engaging in sexual activity and it was reported to the Police, who have taken proactive action lasr week 5 late middle aged men were caught by the Police local Safer neighbourhood team and dealt with.
As for Syds remarks he is a complete Troll and really
 does need to be excluded from this Forum!

but you didn't say any of this aye? did you tell the police how you were out at night with your bit stick 'helping' them?

I have told you once before I do not go out walking in the night it’s bad enough in daylight,now Troll off!

[SydneyRover]

Actually it was a local farmers wife who witnessed middle aged men engaging in sexual activity and it was reported to the Police, who have taken proactive action lasr week 5 late middle aged men were caught by the Police local Safer neighbourhood team and dealt with.
As for Syds remarks he is a complete Troll and really
 does need to be excluded from this Forum!

but you didn't say any of this aye? did you tell the police how you were out at night with your bit stick 'helping' them?

I have told you once before I do not go out walking in the night it’s bad enough in daylight,now Troll off!


what about the big stick did you tell them about that? armed with an offensive weapon, no?

[drfchound]

Actually it was a local farmers wife who witnessed middle aged men engaging in sexual activity and it was reported to the Police, who have taken proactive action lasr week 5 late middle aged men were caught by the Police local Safer neighbourhood team and dealt with.
As for Syds remarks he is a complete Troll and really
 does need to be excluded from this Forum!

but you didn't say any of this aye? did you tell the police how you were out at night with your bit stick 'helping' them?

I have told you once before I do not go out walking in the night it’s bad enough in daylight,now Troll off!


what about the big stick did you tell them about that? armed with an offensive weapon, no?

Syd, did sproty actually mention carrying a big stick?

[Sprotyrover]

It’s no offence to walk around with a big walking stick, it helps when I walk on wet muddy pathways and inclines, the only time it would be considered an offensive weapon would be if I used it to attack somebody, I think you will struggle to find any such admission from myself on here,I unlike you am not a ‘numb nut’ now Troll off Skippy!

[SydneyRover]

It’s no offence to walk around with a big walking stick, it helps when I walk on wet muddy pathways and inclines, the only time it would be considered an offensive weapon would be if I used it to attack somebody, I think you will struggle to find any such admission from myself on here,I unlike you am not a ‘numb nut’ now Troll off Skippy!

''Oh and the other week whilst walking my very large dog I came across a shitty transit van Back doors open with 2 Roma Slovak tosspots about to hurl a scrapped bathroom into a nature reserve, I shouted at them desperately pleading with them to stop despoiling the beautiful  British countryside and by signalling to them with my 6 foot long walking staff, they clearly realised it was not a suitable place to dump their old Bathroom suite and rapidly departed, I ran after them begging and pleading with them to stop and let me beg them to err in their ways but they merely accelerated as though they were trying to escape from the Devil himself !
« Last Edit: February 07, 2024, 10:50:00 pm by Sprotyrover »''

I think the max sentence for an offensive weapon is around 4 years sprot

[drfchound]

It’s no offence to walk around with a big walking stick, it helps when I walk on wet muddy pathways and inclines, the only time it would be considered an offensive weapon would be if I used it to attack somebody, I think you will struggle to find any such admission from myself on here,I unlike you am not a ‘numb nut’ now Troll off Skippy!

''Oh and the other week whilst walking my very large dog I came across a shitty transit van Back doors open with 2 Roma Slovak tosspots about to hurl a scrapped bathroom into a nature reserve, I shouted at them desperately pleading with them to stop despoiling the beautiful  British countryside and by signalling to them with my 6 foot long walking staff, they clearly realised it was not a suitable place to dump their old Bathroom suite and rapidly departed, I ran after them begging and pleading with them to stop and let me beg them to err in their ways but they merely accelerated as though they were trying to escape from the Devil himself !
« Last Edit: February 07, 2024, 10:50:00 pm by Sprotyrover »''

I think the max sentence for an offensive weapon is around 4 years sprot

I was in Beverley a few weeks ago and was looking for a post office.
An old man with a walking stick was coming towards me so I asked him if he knew where the post office was and he stopped, thought for a while then pointed, with his stick, down the road and gave me the directions.
Not much difference really to sproty signalling to the fly tippers and I certainly didn’t feel threatened by the old fellow signalling with his stick.

[Sprotyrover]

It’s no offence to walk around with a big walking stick, it helps when I walk on wet muddy pathways and inclines, the only time it would be considered an offensive weapon would be if I used it to attack somebody, I think you will struggle to find any such admission from myself on here,I unlike you am not a ‘numb nut’ now Troll off Skippy!

''Oh and the other week whilst walking my very large dog I came across a shitty transit van Back doors open with 2 Roma Slovak tosspots about to hurl a scrapped bathroom into a nature reserve, I shouted at them desperately pleading with them to stop despoiling the beautiful  British countryside and by signalling to them with my 6 foot long walking staff, they clearly realised it was not a suitable place to dump their old Bathroom suite and rapidly departed, I ran after them begging and pleading with them to stop and let me beg them to err in their ways but they merely accelerated as though they were trying to escape from the Devil himself !
« Last Edit: February 07, 2024, 10:50:00 pm by Sprotyrover »''

I think the max sentence for an offensive weapon is around 4 years sprot

I was in Beverley a few weeks ago and was looking for a post office.
An old man with a walking stick was coming towards me so I asked him if he knew where the post office was and he stopped, thought for a while then pointed, with his stick, down the road and gave me the directions.
Not much difference really to sproty signalling to the fly tippers and I certainly didn’t feel threatened by the old fellow signalling with his stick.

What ever Syd is taking for his personality disorder is clearly making him hallucinate, You need a ‘check up from the Neck up’ Syd!

[SydneyRover]

It’s no offence to walk around with a big walking stick, it helps when I walk on wet muddy pathways and inclines, the only time it would be considered an offensive weapon would be if I used it to attack somebody, I think you will struggle to find any such admission from myself on here,I unlike you am not a ‘numb nut’ now Troll off Skippy!

''Oh and the other week whilst walking my very large dog I came across a shitty transit van Back doors open with 2 Roma Slovak tosspots about to hurl a scrapped bathroom into a nature reserve, I shouted at them desperately pleading with them to stop despoiling the beautiful  British countryside and by signalling to them with my 6 foot long walking staff, they clearly realised it was not a suitable place to dump their old Bathroom suite and rapidly departed, I ran after them begging and pleading with them to stop and let me beg them to err in their ways but they merely accelerated as though they were trying to escape from the Devil himself !
« Last Edit: February 07, 2024, 10:50:00 pm by Sprotyrover »''

I think the max sentence for an offensive weapon is around 4 years sprot

I was in Beverley a few weeks ago and was looking for a post office.
An old man with a walking stick was coming towards me so I asked him if he knew where the post office was and he stopped, thought for a while then pointed, with his stick, down the road and gave me the directions.
Not much difference really to sproty signalling to the fly tippers and I certainly didn’t feel threatened by the old fellow signalling with his stick.

What ever Syd is taking for his personality disorder is clearly making him hallucinate, You need a ‘check up from the Neck up’ Syd!

Hmmm, interesting, coincidentally there are parrots in a neighbour’s tree, all they do is make a lot of noise and shit everywhere.

[Colin C No.3]

It’s no offence to walk around with a big walking stick, it helps when I walk on wet muddy pathways and inclines, the only time it would be considered an offensive weapon would be if I used it to attack somebody, I think you will struggle to find any such admission from myself on here,I unlike you am not a ‘numb nut’ now Troll off Skippy!

''Oh and the other week whilst walking my very large dog I came across a shitty transit van Back doors open with 2 Roma Slovak tosspots about to hurl a scrapped bathroom into a nature reserve, I shouted at them desperately pleading with them to stop despoiling the beautiful  British countryside and by signalling to them with my 6 foot long walking staff, they clearly realised it was not a suitable place to dump their old Bathroom suite and rapidly departed, I ran after them begging and pleading with them to stop and let me beg them to err in their ways but they merely accelerated as though they were trying to escape from the Devil himself !
« Last Edit: February 07, 2024, 10:50:00 pm by Sprotyrover »''

I think the max sentence for an offensive weapon is around 4 years sprot

I was in Beverley a few weeks ago and was looking for a post office.
An old man with a walking stick was coming towards me so I asked him if he knew where the post office was and he stopped, thought for a while then pointed, with his stick, down the road and gave me the directions.
Not much difference really to sproty signalling to the fly tippers and I certainly didn’t feel threatened by the old fellow signalling with his stick.

What ever Syd is taking for his personality disorder is clearly making him hallucinate, You need a ‘check up from the Neck up’ Syd!

Hmmm, interesting, coincidentally there are parrots in a neighbour’s tree, all they do is make a lot of noise and shit everywhere.

Have you tried shaking a stick at them Syd?

[SydneyRover]

It’s no offence to walk around with a big walking stick, it helps when I walk on wet muddy pathways and inclines, the only time it would be considered an offensive weapon would be if I used it to attack somebody, I think you will struggle to find any such admission from myself on here,I unlike you am not a ‘numb nut’ now Troll off Skippy!

''Oh and the other week whilst walking my very large dog I came across a shitty transit van Back doors open with 2 Roma Slovak tosspots about to hurl a scrapped bathroom into a nature reserve, I shouted at them desperately pleading with them to stop despoiling the beautiful  British countryside and by signalling to them with my 6 foot long walking staff, they clearly realised it was not a suitable place to dump their old Bathroom suite and rapidly departed, I ran after them begging and pleading with them to stop and let me beg them to err in their ways but they merely accelerated as though they were trying to escape from the Devil himself !
« Last Edit: February 07, 2024, 10:50:00 pm by Sprotyrover »''

I think the max sentence for an offensive weapon is around 4 years sprot

I was in Beverley a few weeks ago and was looking for a post office.
An old man with a walking stick was coming towards me so I asked him if he knew where the post office was and he stopped, thought for a while then pointed, with his stick, down the road and gave me the directions.
Not much difference really to sproty signalling to the fly tippers and I certainly didn’t feel threatened by the old fellow signalling with his stick.

What ever Syd is taking for his personality disorder is clearly making him hallucinate, You need a ‘check up from the Neck up’ Syd!

Hmmm, interesting, coincidentally there are parrots in a neighbour’s tree, all they do is make a lot of noise and shit everywhere.

Have you tried shaking a stick at them Syd?

All the good ones are already taken apparently

[SydneyRover]

''Biggest Tory donor said looking at Diane Abbott makes you ‘want to hate all black women’
Exclusive: Remarks by Frank Hester, who has given £10m to the party in the past year, raise questions over his workplace behaviour''

''The Conservative party’s biggest donor told colleagues that looking at Diane Abbott makes you “want to hate all black women” and said the MP “should be shot”, the Guardian can reveal.

Frank Hester, who has given £10m to the Tories in the past year, said in the meeting that he did not hate all black women. But he said that seeing Abbott, who is Britain’s longest-serving black MP, on TV meant “you just want to hate all black women because she’s there”.

He also called all his “foreign” workers together to defend himself against online claims that he had made racist remarks. During this meeting, he said he abhorred racism and told his team their progress would not be “based on the colour of your skin, your ethnicity, where your parents are from”.

However, he also said “we take the piss out of the fact that all our Chinese girls sit together in Asian corner”''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/11/biggest-tory-donor-looking-diane-abbott-hate-all-black-women

hmmm

[BillyStubbsTears]

Im trying to imagine the media response if a senior figure in the Labour movement said looking at a Jewish Tory MP made him want to hate all Jewish women, and that he thought she should be shot.

Big decision for Sunak. Does he take a stand on this and return the £10m Hester has given to the Tory party? Or does he feel fine at the party being financed by a Kitson like this?