When a Government...

[Bentley Bullet]

Not to mention her outbursts of racism, which were no less racist than Frank Hester's comments, but, of course, not as much maligned on this forum!

Did she apologise straight away? did she say she hated every other person of the same colour? did she mention wanting to shoot the person?

Christ, what the f**k is BB gabbling on about now?

Imagine living in a head where, whatever one side does, you screw your eyes up and ignore it while ferreting around your brain for some half remembered crap that convinces you the other side is as bad.

What would have to happen for you just to make a straight condemnation.

Still a fake, coming out with fake comments, I see, BST!

still channelling trump I see bb

I didn't realise you connected BST with Trump.

[Bentley Bullet]

Not to mention her outbursts of racism, which were no less racist than Frank Hester's comments, but, of course, not as much maligned on this forum!

Did she apologise straight away? did she say she hated every other person of the same colour? did she mention wanting to shoot the person?

Oh and of course she had the whip removed

She should have been kicked out of the party on several occasions, especially a party that preaches so much purity and righteousness.

For the record, I think Frank Hester should have his money returned to him, but I wonder if the pure, and righteous Labour party would do likewise in similar circumstances.

Wonder no more

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britains-labour-party-return-donation-algebris-ceo-following-harassment-claim-2023-06-09/

£100k compared to £10m!

Did they return it then?

[SydneyRover]

Not to mention her outbursts of racism, which were no less racist than Frank Hester's comments, but, of course, not as much maligned on this forum!

Did she apologise straight away? did she say she hated every other person of the same colour? did she mention wanting to shoot the person?

Christ, what the f**k is BB gabbling on about now?

Imagine living in a head where, whatever one side does, you screw your eyes up and ignore it while ferreting around your brain for some half remembered crap that convinces you the other side is as bad.

What would have to happen for you just to make a straight condemnation.

Still a fake, coming out with fake comments, I see, BST!

still channelling trump I see bb

I didn't realise you connected BST with Trump.

search how many times the word fake is used in your own posts while looking in the mirror bb

[drfchound]

The search bar only shows that BB used the word “fake” in one post Syd.

[Bentley Bullet]

The search bar only shows that BB used the word “fake” in one post Syd.

..... And I certainly don't look in the Mirror, not the shit-rag version anyway.

[SydneyRover]

The search bar only shows that BB used the word “fake” in one post Syd.

..... And I certainly don't look in the Mirror, not the shit-rag version anyway.

hound told me only the other day that search results don't always show every instance, want some seed?

[Iberian Red]

The search bar only shows that BB used the word “fake” in one post Syd.

..... And I certainly don't look in the Mirror, not the shit-rag version anyway.

I imagine you see Dorian Grey.








Or jowls and a purply gammon reflexion.

[drfchound]

The search bar only shows that BB used the word “fake” in one post Syd.

..... And I certainly don't look in the Mirror, not the shit-rag version anyway.

hound told me only the other day that search results don't always show every instance, want some seed?

Maybe you should have done screen shots of the times BB allegedly used the word “fake” Syd.

[Iberian Red]

The search bar only shows that BB used the word “fake” in one post Syd.

..... And I certainly don't look in the Mirror, not the shit-rag version anyway.

hound told me only the other day that search results don't always show every instance, want some seed?

Maybe you should have done screen shots of the times BB allegedly used the word “fake” Syd.

Like faux outrage?

[drfchound]

The search bar only shows that BB used the word “fake” in one post Syd.

..... And I certainly don't look in the Mirror, not the shit-rag version anyway.

hound told me only the other day that search results don't always show every instance, want some seed?

Maybe you should have done screen shots of the times BB allegedly used the word “fake” Syd.

Like faux outrage?

I don’t think Syd mentioned that.

[SydneyRover]

Why does this come up all the time, it's been like it for years.

  ''You are ignoring this user. Show me the post''

[drfchound]

Why does this come up all the time, it's been like it for years.

  ''You are ignoring this user. Show me the post''

Depends on who you are talking about.

[Bentley Bullet]

Sydnaye being wrong hound?

Hush your mouth!

[Iberian Red]

Syd,it looks like you've been spit roasted by a couple of obsessive posters.
Don't worry,they will counter attack with troll in their next posts.
No opinion,or counter arguements,just troll.

[SydneyRover]

''Ministers and officials to be banned from contact with groups labelled extremist''

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/14/ministers-and-officials-to-be-banned-from-contact-with-groups-labelled-extremist

No more donations from frank hester and The Phoenix Partnership, then?

[drfchound]

Syd, have you overlooked the other news related to this situation, or chosen not to highlight it.
Abbott has now accused the LABOUR Party of shocking levels or racism and sexism, much of it directed against her personally.

From The Express:

The former shadow home secretary said the "Tory reluctance to call out racism and sexism is shocking, but hardly surprising".

But the Hackney North and Stoke Newington MP also took aim at Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer, saying his position was "disappointing".
Writing in The Independent, Ms Abbott said: "But the position of the current leadership of the Labour Party is disappointing – it seemed equally reluctant at the outset to call out either racism or sexism.
In fact, a number of Labour statements were issued, and interviews given where neither word was mentioned.

"Instead, the entire focus was on the demand that the Tories give Hester back his money, which is surely not the primary point in this case."

Ms Abbott, who currently sits as an independent after losing the Labour whip in an antisemitism row, condemned the “shocking levels of racism and sexism from within the Labour Party, again much of it directed against me personally”.

I saw several of our 4th div. usual suspects criticising the Conservative leadership about this yesterday but strangely, not one word was said against Starmer and his team.
PS.  I’m sorry but I couldn’t find a Guardian report on this so I guess that’s why you didn’t highlight it Syd.

[tyke1962]

Syd, have you overlooked the other news related to this situation, or chosen not to highlight it.
Abbott has now accused the LABOUR Party of shocking levels or racism and sexism, much of it directed against her personally.

From The Express:

The former shadow home secretary said the "Tory reluctance to call out racism and sexism is shocking, but hardly surprising".

But the Hackney North and Stoke Newington MP also took aim at Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer, saying his position was "disappointing".
Writing in The Independent, Ms Abbott said: "But the position of the current leadership of the Labour Party is disappointing – it seemed equally reluctant at the outset to call out either racism or sexism.
In fact, a number of Labour statements were issued, and interviews given where neither word was mentioned.

"Instead, the entire focus was on the demand that the Tories give Hester back his money, which is surely not the primary point in this case."

Ms Abbott, who currently sits as an independent after losing the Labour whip in an antisemitism row, condemned the “shocking levels of racism and sexism from within the Labour Party, again much of it directed against me personally”.

I saw several of our 4th div. usual suspects criticising the Conservative leadership about this yesterday but strangely, not one word was said against Starmer and his team.
PS.  I’m sorry but I couldn’t find a Guardian report on this so I guess that’s why you didn’t highlight it Syd.

She's got form herself Hound .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65365978

[Ldr]

Syd, have you overlooked the other news related to this situation, or chosen not to highlight it.
Abbott has now accused the LABOUR Party of shocking levels or racism and sexism, much of it directed against her personally.

From The Express:

The former shadow home secretary said the "Tory reluctance to call out racism and sexism is shocking, but hardly surprising".

But the Hackney North and Stoke Newington MP also took aim at Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer, saying his position was "disappointing".
Writing in The Independent, Ms Abbott said: "But the position of the current leadership of the Labour Party is disappointing – it seemed equally reluctant at the outset to call out either racism or sexism.
In fact, a number of Labour statements were issued, and interviews given where neither word was mentioned.

"Instead, the entire focus was on the demand that the Tories give Hester back his money, which is surely not the primary point in this case."

Ms Abbott, who currently sits as an independent after losing the Labour whip in an antisemitism row, condemned the “shocking levels of racism and sexism from within the Labour Party, again much of it directed against me personally”.

I saw several of our 4th div. usual suspects criticising the Conservative leadership about this yesterday but strangely, not one word was said against Starmer and his team.
PS.  I’m sorry but I couldn’t find a Guardian report on this so I guess that’s why you didn’t highlight it Syd.

She's got form herself Hound .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65365978

You’re forgetting to apply BSTs implied ruling Tyke.

Tory does something - disgusting, hound them out
Labour does something - honest mistake made in good faith

[SydneyRover]

Hope not Hate guys, hope not hate.

[Herbert Anchovy]

It's not really difficult to understand is it?

Anyone, of any political persuasion, left or right, that holds racist, xenophobic or sexist views of any sort is, at the very least,  irrational and at worst utterly abhorrent. Also, anyone who does hold these views should not be anywhere near any form of power, whether that's political, economic or religious.

All forms of discrimination are completely senseless, incoherent and stupid and anyone who does adhere to it should probably seek some form of medical support.

[Jonathan]

Syd, have you overlooked the other news related to this situation, or chosen not to highlight it.
Abbott has now accused the LABOUR Party of shocking levels or racism and sexism, much of it directed against her personally.

From The Express:

The former shadow home secretary said the "Tory reluctance to call out racism and sexism is shocking, but hardly surprising".

But the Hackney North and Stoke Newington MP also took aim at Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer, saying his position was "disappointing".
Writing in The Independent, Ms Abbott said: "But the position of the current leadership of the Labour Party is disappointing – it seemed equally reluctant at the outset to call out either racism or sexism.
In fact, a number of Labour statements were issued, and interviews given where neither word was mentioned.

"Instead, the entire focus was on the demand that the Tories give Hester back his money, which is surely not the primary point in this case."

Ms Abbott, who currently sits as an independent after losing the Labour whip in an antisemitism row, condemned the “shocking levels of racism and sexism from within the Labour Party, again much of it directed against me personally”.

I saw several of our 4th div. usual suspects criticising the Conservative leadership about this yesterday but strangely, not one word was said against Starmer and his team.
PS.  I’m sorry but I couldn’t find a Guardian report on this so I guess that’s why you didn’t highlight it Syd.

She's got form herself Hound .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65365978

Have you read the link you posted? Is it comparable, and in your view does it mean she deserves racist abuse to be aimed at her?

With regard to the racist abuse referenced in the Labour Party itself, call me naive but I don’t think there is anyone so partisan to refuse to condemn that simply because of the source. However, I think it’s a bit disingenuous to be calling out a perceived lack of comment on here. What’s drawn comment to date is a very public refusal to identify or condemn (a specific instance of racism) by ministers sent out to represent the Conservative Party line. It’s been right there in front of you and easy to see where the subsequent comment has come from. At this stage, where public action or inaction is concerned, there is simply not the same to go on with the Labour Party at this particular point in time is there? Diane Abbott’s allegations are concerning and need to be investigated themselves, nobody is beyond reproach. But if you’re after “pages of comments” on here to make yourself feel better, then you probably need to give more of an idea exactly what about.

As a fairly new reader to this area of the forum, it’s apparent to me that most topics stem from issues very much in the public domain. And it’s not as one sided as some make out. Judging by the topics I’ve read, we certainly appear to have a number of people that are apologetic towards racism, misogyny, homophobia and transhopia, so surely that comes with an expectation to be challenged on it. This is a forum afterall, and that’s where the pages and pages come from.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Syd, have you overlooked the other news related to this situation, or chosen not to highlight it.
Abbott has now accused the LABOUR Party of shocking levels or racism and sexism, much of it directed against her personally.

From The Express:

The former shadow home secretary said the "Tory reluctance to call out racism and sexism is shocking, but hardly surprising".

But the Hackney North and Stoke Newington MP also took aim at Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer, saying his position was "disappointing".
Writing in The Independent, Ms Abbott said: "But the position of the current leadership of the Labour Party is disappointing – it seemed equally reluctant at the outset to call out either racism or sexism.
In fact, a number of Labour statements were issued, and interviews given where neither word was mentioned.

"Instead, the entire focus was on the demand that the Tories give Hester back his money, which is surely not the primary point in this case."

Ms Abbott, who currently sits as an independent after losing the Labour whip in an antisemitism row, condemned the “shocking levels of racism and sexism from within the Labour Party, again much of it directed against me personally”.

I saw several of our 4th div. usual suspects criticising the Conservative leadership about this yesterday but strangely, not one word was said against Starmer and his team.
PS.  I’m sorry but I couldn’t find a Guardian report on this so I guess that’s why you didn’t highlight it Syd.

She's got form herself Hound .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65365978

You’re forgetting to apply BSTs implied ruling Tyke.

Tory does something - disgusting, hound them out
Labour does something - honest mistake made in good faith

That'd be a really good observation if it wasn't b*llocks.

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=286068.msg1233016#msg1233016

Just repeating BB's obsessive trope doesn't make it true.

[Bentley Bullet]

It's not really difficult to understand is it?

Anyone, of any political persuasion, left or right, that holds racist, xenophobic or sexist views of any sort is, at the very least,  irrational and at worst utterly abhorrent. Also, anyone who does hold these views should not be anywhere near any form of power, whether that's political, economic or religious.

All forms of discrimination are completely senseless, incoherent and stupid and anyone who does adhere to it should probably seek some form of medical support.

Call out Angela Rayner = Sexist.
Call out Diane Abbott = Sexist and racist.
Call out Teresa May as (for instance)  "looked like a genetic experiment gone wrong"  = Acceptable.

Can you imagine the reaction on here if someone said Diane Abbott looked like a genetic experiment gone wrong?

[Herbert Anchovy]

It's not really difficult to understand is it?

Anyone, of any political persuasion, left or right, that holds racist, xenophobic or sexist views of any sort is, at the very least,  irrational and at worst utterly abhorrent. Also, anyone who does hold these views should not be anywhere near any form of power, whether that's political, economic or religious.

All forms of discrimination are completely senseless, incoherent and stupid and anyone who does adhere to it should probably seek some form of medical support.

Call out Angela Rayner = Sexist.
Call out Diane Abbott = Sexist and racist.
Call out Teresa May as (for instance)  "looked like a genetic experiment gone wrong"  = Acceptable.

Can you imagine the reaction on here if someone said Diane Abbott looked like a genetic experiment gone wrong?

As I said BB - all forms of racist, sexist or xenophobic opinions, whether by left or right, are absolutely wrong and deserve to be called out. Let's face it, the politicians of the UK provide everyone with more than enough ammo to not need to go down those routes.

[SydneyRover]

We need to live by the rules we demand of our politicians

[ravenrover]

Can't understand the fuss, he now, was only rude so that's OK

[drfchound]

Raven, no one on here has agreed with that.

[SydneyRover]

It's not really difficult to understand is it?

Anyone, of any political persuasion, left or right, that holds racist, xenophobic or sexist views of any sort is, at the very least,  irrational and at worst utterly abhorrent. Also, anyone who does hold these views should not be anywhere near any form of power, whether that's political, economic or religious.

All forms of discrimination are completely senseless, incoherent and stupid and anyone who does adhere to it should probably seek some form of medical support.

Call out Angela Rayner = Sexist.
Call out Diane Abbott = Sexist and racist.
Call out Teresa May as (for instance)  "looked like a genetic experiment gone wrong"  = Acceptable.

Can you imagine the reaction on here if someone said Diane Abbott looked like a genetic experiment gone wrong?

then you need to start setting an example for the rest of us to follow bb

[ravenrover]

Raven, no one on here has agreed with that.

Hound I think you missed thr sarcasm in that one

[drfchound]

Raven, no one on here has agreed with that.

Hound I think you missed thr sarcasm in that one

We should start a campaign to get the tongue in cheek emoji put on here as an option to use.