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glosterred

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Re: GB News
« Reply #30 on September 24, 2023, 03:41:50 pm by glosterred »
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

You haven’t answered the question there. So what news channel are acceptable to you for me to watch?




I didn't tell you not to watch it. So it's a non-question. But if you want to answer it yourself, I'd start by looking at whether a station employs rabid anti-Semite conspiracy theorists as presenters, wouldn't you?

So now you want to censor free speech?




No. I'm saying that if you choose to watch that channel, you should, as an intelligent adult, be aware of what they condone from their presenters.

The fact that this seems to be getting you rather wound up is a bit worrying to be honest. I'd have thought the issue about whether the Holocaust happened was a matter of historical fact, and most grown ups would agree that anyone who suggests it didn't is a bit of a problem.

Not getting wound up as much as you think I am. But, if you deny people the freedom to speak, whether that is holocaust denial or any other subject then that is restricting the right of freedom of speech. You may not like what these people say, I don’t by the way, but they in a free speech society have that right to say it.





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tyke1962

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Re: GB News
« Reply #31 on September 24, 2023, 05:08:55 pm by tyke1962 »
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

You haven’t answered the question there. So what news channel are acceptable to you for me to watch?




I didn't tell you not to watch it. So it's a non-question. But if you want to answer it yourself, I'd start by looking at whether a station employs rabid anti-Semite conspiracy theorists as presenters, wouldn't you?

So now you want to censor free speech?




No. I'm saying that if you choose to watch that channel, you should, as an intelligent adult, be aware of what they condone from their presenters.

The fact that this seems to be getting you rather wound up is a bit worrying to be honest. I'd have thought the issue about whether the Holocaust happened was a matter of historical fact, and most grown ups would agree that anyone who suggests it didn't is a bit of a problem.

Not getting wound up as much as you think I am. But, if you deny people the freedom to speak, whether that is holocaust denial or any other subject then that is restricting the right of freedom of speech. You may not like what these people say, I don’t by the way, but they in a free speech society have that right to say it.

But doesn't free speech also come with responsibility too .

There isn't a scintilla of evidence that supports the view that the holocaust didn't happen .

The evidence that it did happen is beyond question .

You may as well point to the moon and say it's a block of cheese .

Free speech is one thing but a News Channel giving someone a platform to promote a pack of lies on one of the worst examples of genocide is quite another .

glosterred

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Re: GB News
« Reply #32 on September 24, 2023, 05:35:32 pm by glosterred »
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

You haven’t answered the question there. So what news channel are acceptable to you for me to watch?




I didn't tell you not to watch it. So it's a non-question. But if you want to answer it yourself, I'd start by looking at whether a station employs rabid anti-Semite conspiracy theorists as presenters, wouldn't you?

So now you want to censor free speech?




No. I'm saying that if you choose to watch that channel, you should, as an intelligent adult, be aware of what they condone from their presenters.

The fact that this seems to be getting you rather wound up is a bit worrying to be honest. I'd have thought the issue about whether the Holocaust happened was a matter of historical fact, and most grown ups would agree that anyone who suggests it didn't is a bit of a problem.

Not getting wound up as much as you think I am. But, if you deny people the freedom to speak, whether that is holocaust denial or any other subject then that is restricting the right of freedom of speech. You may not like what these people say, I don’t by the way, but they in a free speech society have that right to say it.

But doesn't free speech also come with responsibility too .

There isn't a scintilla of evidence that supports the view that the holocaust didn't happen .

The evidence that it did happen is beyond question .

You may as well point to the moon and say it's a block of cheese .

Free speech is one thing but a News Channel giving someone a platform to promote a pack of lies on one of the worst examples of genocide is quite another .

Yes it comes with responsibility but it also the responsibility of those interviewing these people to challenge their view and point them to the evidence that the holocaust was real and not something that can be denied.


https://twitter.com/addicted2newz/status/1704987478426259465




ncRover

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Re: GB News
« Reply #33 on September 24, 2023, 06:11:22 pm by ncRover »
Both men positing that low birth rates are possibly due to covid vaccinations.

But in a running lack of self-awareness proclaim that the ruling elite are stoking fear and division by design.

Allowing them freedom of speech allows their ideas to be challenged, ridiculed and then run out of oxygen.

After this you just trust that anyone stupid enough to believe it all is too stupid to influence society.

Cancel them, and like Brand they can be like “see they want to keep us quiet! We’re on to something!”
« Last Edit: September 24, 2023, 06:26:02 pm by ncRover »

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: GB News
« Reply #34 on September 24, 2023, 06:19:12 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

You haven’t answered the question there. So what news channel are acceptable to you for me to watch?




I didn't tell you not to watch it. So it's a non-question. But if you want to answer it yourself, I'd start by looking at whether a station employs rabid anti-Semite conspiracy theorists as presenters, wouldn't you?

So now you want to censor free speech?




No. I'm saying that if you choose to watch that channel, you should, as an intelligent adult, be aware of what they condone from their presenters.

The fact that this seems to be getting you rather wound up is a bit worrying to be honest. I'd have thought the issue about whether the Holocaust happened was a matter of historical fact, and most grown ups would agree that anyone who suggests it didn't is a bit of a problem.

Not getting wound up as much as you think I am. But, if you deny people the freedom to speak, whether that is holocaust denial or any other subject then that is restricting the right of freedom of speech. You may not like what these people say, I don’t by the way, but they in a free speech society have that right to say it.

But doesn't free speech also come with responsibility too .

There isn't a scintilla of evidence that supports the view that the holocaust didn't happen .

The evidence that it did happen is beyond question .

You may as well point to the moon and say it's a block of cheese .

Free speech is one thing but a News Channel giving someone a platform to promote a pack of lies on one of the worst examples of genocide is quite another .

Yes it comes with responsibility but it also the responsibility of those interviewing these people to challenge their view and point them to the evidence that the holocaust was real and not something that can be denied.


https://twitter.com/addicted2newz/status/1704987478426259465





What do you mean about the "responsibility of those interviewing these people?"

Oliver IS an interviewer. HE is the anti-Semite conspiracy theorist. He's paid by GB News to pour that filth out of their studios into gullible people's feeds.

ncRover

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Re: GB News
« Reply #35 on September 24, 2023, 06:29:08 pm by ncRover »
Was there actually holocaust denial in the exchange? I can’t find the clip.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: GB News
« Reply #36 on September 24, 2023, 06:47:42 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Was there actually holocaust denial in the exchange? I can’t find the clip.

I didn't post anything about a video clip.

I posted Oliver liking on Twitter a post telling him how good a neo-Nazi video is - one that says Jews were paid to make up stories about concentration camps.

Oliver responded by claiming on GB News in one of his word salad rants that he's paid to dish up, that "they" were coming for him.

belton rover

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Re: GB News
« Reply #37 on September 24, 2023, 07:35:17 pm by belton rover »
Oliver sounds like a WUM to me.
And he appears to be quite good at it.

drfchound

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« Reply #38 on September 24, 2023, 08:11:26 pm by drfchound »
Can’t people just make their point and minds up about whether there was the Holocaust.
There is enough VT and pictures available to help people make their decisions.
Do we really need people telling us not to be influenced by someone on a tv channel.
Seriously!!
« Last Edit: September 24, 2023, 10:28:12 pm by drfchound »

Iberian Red

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Re: GB News
« Reply #39 on September 24, 2023, 08:11:52 pm by Iberian Red »
I don’t want a syntax argument either. I simply asked of you thought they were all conspiracy theory head cases, as you inferred. A yes or no would have done.
You’ve kind of answered that now, so thanks.
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Thank Christ for that .
I hope you aren't still correcting A level exams.
Terrible Use of Language  :lol:

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Iberian Red

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Re: GB News
« Reply #40 on September 24, 2023, 08:16:24 pm by Iberian Red »
Just a thought here, the OP mentions a certain news channel and tells us about the presenters views so it is fair to think that he has watched that channel and yet The Deflector tells us all that only idiots watch that it.

Thanks  Gra.
Loving the new name you've given me.
The deflector.
 Love it!
Great wit and humour.
Funny as

belton rover

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Re: GB News
« Reply #41 on September 24, 2023, 08:44:20 pm by belton rover »
Can’t people just make their point an minds up about whether there was the Holocaust.
There is enough VT and pictures available to help people make their decisions.
Do we really need people telling us not to be influenced by someone on a tv channel.
Seriously!!
You make a really good point Hound
That’s the grown up thing to do.

Iberian Red

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Re: GB News
« Reply #42 on September 24, 2023, 08:59:10 pm by Iberian Red »
Brilliant post.
You've cut me in half.

Iberian Red

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Re: GB News
« Reply #43 on September 24, 2023, 09:01:24 pm by Iberian Red »
Anyway GB news is presented by Kitsons, and presented to Kitsons.
I really don't have to justify that.
Fact

scawsby steve

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Re: GB News
« Reply #44 on September 24, 2023, 09:05:52 pm by scawsby steve »
Isn't Michelle Dewbury a presenter on GB News?

That is one seriously gorgeous looking woman.

I actually think I might have a chance with her.

Iberian Red

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« Reply #45 on September 24, 2023, 09:08:16 pm by Iberian Red »
I have to be very careful what I say here Steve.

I get accused by trolls of being homophobic! :lol: :P

scawsby steve

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Re: GB News
« Reply #46 on September 24, 2023, 09:35:54 pm by scawsby steve »
I've just had an e-mail from her. She says she actually likes Arthur Mullard lookalikes.

That's torn it, with me looking more like Tom Cruise.

belton rover

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Re: GB News
« Reply #47 on September 24, 2023, 10:21:09 pm by belton rover »
I've just had an e-mail from her. She says she actually likes Arthur Mullard lookalikes.

That's torn it, with me looking more like Tom Cruise.
In Vanilla Sky?

wilts rover

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« Reply #48 on September 24, 2023, 10:44:51 pm by wilts rover »
Can’t people just make their point and minds up about whether there was the Holocaust.
There is enough VT and pictures available to help people make their decisions.
Do we really need people telling us not to be influenced by someone on a tv channel.
Seriously!!

Are you saying don't beleive what you hear/see on GB News then hound?

That's heresy to some posters here it seems.

Because if they are lying to you/deceiving you on that - what else are they lying to you/deceiving you about?

drfchound

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Re: GB News
« Reply #49 on September 24, 2023, 10:49:28 pm by drfchound »
Can’t people just make their point and minds up about whether there was the Holocaust.
There is enough VT and pictures available to help people make their decisions.
Do we really need people telling us not to be influenced by someone on a tv channel.
Seriously!!

Are you saying don't beleive what you hear/see on GB News then hound?

That's heresy to some posters here it seems.

Because if they are lying to you/deceiving you on that - what else are they lying to you/deceiving you about?

Wilts, I have never seen GB News and not even heard of it until the OP warned me not to be influenced by what is said on there. So to answer your question, no.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2023, 01:53:45 pm by drfchound »

Nudga

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Re: GB News
« Reply #50 on September 25, 2023, 07:31:33 am by Nudga »
Unreal if true.

https://twitter.com/UnityNewsNet/status/
1705841969845403788?t=49dOPhUKXjnIdnj6OY18ug&s=19

Nudga

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Re: GB News
« Reply #51 on September 25, 2023, 03:41:19 pm by Nudga »
So the far left (or far right, I can't keep up,) give a nazi a standing ovation and absolutely nothing on this thread.
I posted the link this morning and the usual suspect(s) have gone MIA.

Outrage when it suits.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66908958

idler

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Re: GB News
« Reply #52 on September 25, 2023, 04:09:47 pm by idler »
It was mentioned in the Ukraine thread off topic Nudga.

Nudga

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« Reply #53 on September 25, 2023, 04:31:56 pm by Nudga »
It was mentioned in the Ukraine thread off topic Nudga.

Missed that as I don't look at that thread.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #54 on September 25, 2023, 05:20:52 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
It was a stupid mistake Nudga. No-one did their homework on the guest. All responsible have apologised.

You reckon a mistake, stupid as it might be, matches with conscious decisions to support Holocaust deniers?

wilts rover

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« Reply #55 on September 25, 2023, 05:56:36 pm by wilts rover »
Unreal if true.

https://twitter.com/UnityNewsNet/status/
1705841969845403788?t=49dOPhUKXjnIdnj6OY18ug&s=19

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wilts rover

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Re: GB News
« Reply #56 on September 25, 2023, 05:59:02 pm by wilts rover »
So the far left (or far right, I can't keep up,) give a nazi a standing ovation and absolutely nothing on this thread.
I posted the link this morning and the usual suspect(s) have gone MIA.

Outrage when it suits.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66908958

Apologies for not answering your post when you want - but I have a life and only log on and off here occassionally and never when I am at work.

But yup, outrage when it suits.

Sprotyrover

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Re: GB News
« Reply #57 on September 25, 2023, 09:25:17 pm by Sprotyrover »
So the far left (or far right, I can't keep up,) give a nazi a standing ovation and absolutely nothing on this thread.
I posted the link this morning and the usual suspect(s) have gone MIA.

Outrage when it suits.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66908958
What a set of Twits!!!, some folks decry me for being a History buff, but if they had bothered to ask me if they should wheel out a Ukrainian War veteran, who had lived in the West since the end of World war 2 my question would be, “was he in the Cossack Divisions in the Wehrmacht or the First or Second Ukrainian SS Division?” Churchill sent back 2.5 million ex Red Army POW’S and they all ended up as part of the tarmac making up the Road of Bones, the ones he couldn’t send back had all been in the Waffen SS or Wehrmacht!
But did that make him a Nazi?
Stalin had starved 25 million Ukrainians to death, they saw the Germans as liberators,as did the Estonians, Latvians,Lithuanians and Cossacks all were persecuted under the Stalin regime!
« Last Edit: September 25, 2023, 09:37:08 pm by Sprotyrover »

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: GB News
« Reply #58 on September 25, 2023, 11:14:06 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Yes it's absolutely stupid. But it doesn't make them committed Nazi sympathisers.

SydneyRover

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Re: GB News
« Reply #59 on September 28, 2023, 12:03:39 am by SydneyRover »
Just in case anyone missed it ...........

''GB News has suspended the presenters Dan Wootton and Laurence Fox as the channel struggles to contain the fallout after misogynistic comments made on Wootton’s show''

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/sep/27/gb-news-suspends-dan-wootton-after-laurence-foxs-remarks-on-show

 

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