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ravenrover

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #90 on November 12, 2023, 12:46:45 pm by ravenrover »
How many times did Schnapps mention anti semetic placards and Hamas supporters bringing it back to the march with hardly a mention of the EDL and other thugs who tried to wreck things. He obviously doesn't watch any news channel as his only comment was I heard it whilst I was laying a wreath at The Cenotaph  which has now become an iconic place of worship.
And effectively agreeing with what Cruella said by refusing to condemn her article and saying they weren't the words he would have used, what would he have said I wonder?



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Sprotyrover

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #91 on November 12, 2023, 01:08:49 pm by Sprotyrover »
I'd like more info from our cub reporter, who were they and what were their circumstances, did they have medical conditions, were they victims of traumatic incidents etc, how many of them were there? did they go around in a group as described? did you follow them all day sprot or is the information second hand?
The Charity M25 ran the Union street site the Manager was Jim Steicke , the other facillities I worked with where the Organisation that now is called OPEN HOUSE, Doncaster NHS Drug Treatment services, and the Town centre CCTV unit (There’s a big clue for you there)
Most of The people I observed were long term Heroin addicts, who funded their habit by petty Crime, mainly Shoplifting and Breaking into Cars. When the shops shut they would make their way into Hexthorpe, Hyde Park and Wheatley were they would target the vulnerable 2 up 2 down Terraced housing, most of them had been kicked out by their parents who had tolerated their thieving until the day they stole the TV set, that was usually the straw that broke the Camels back. I managed to get 3 or 4 back into society but most were not interested and were happy with their lifestyle. No ex Services, when I worked in the Prisons the ex Service men. Were really heavily outreached and offered tons of support.that was a different team heavily funded by the Government ex service men’s schemes.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2023, 02:18:07 pm by Sprotyrover »

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #92 on November 12, 2023, 01:48:38 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
How many times did Schnapps mention anti semetic placards and Hamas supporters bringing it back to the march with hardly a mention of the EDL and other thugs who tried to wreck things. He obviously doesn't watch any news channel as his only comment was I heard it whilst I was laying a wreath at The Cenotaph  which has now become an iconic place of worship.
And effectively agreeing with what Cruella said by refusing to condemn her article and saying they weren't the words he would have used, what would he have said I wonder?

He's a nasty Kitson who is thinking about his place in a future Braverman-led Tory party.

He's the poster boy of the current Tory party. Perfect example of the total lack of principle and preparedness to consider any (and I mean ANY) move to further his own career.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #93 on November 12, 2023, 08:30:41 pm by SydneyRover »
I'd like more info from our cub reporter, who were they and what were their circumstances, did they have medical conditions, were they victims of traumatic incidents etc, how many of them were there? did they go around in a group as described? did you follow them all day sprot or is the information second hand?
The Charity M25 ran the Union street site the Manager was Jim Steicke , the other facillities I worked with where the Organisation that now is called OPEN HOUSE, Doncaster NHS Drug Treatment services, and the Town centre CCTV unit (There’s a big clue for you there)
Most of The people I observed were long term Heroin addicts, who funded their habit by petty Crime, mainly Shoplifting and Breaking into Cars. When the shops shut they would make their way into Hexthorpe, Hyde Park and Wheatley were they would target the vulnerable 2 up 2 down Terraced housing, most of them had been kicked out by their parents who had tolerated their thieving until the day they stole the TV set, that was usually the straw that broke the Camels back. I managed to get 3 or 4 back into society but most were not interested and were happy with their lifestyle. No ex Services, when I worked in the Prisons the ex Service men. Were really heavily outreached and offered tons of support.that was a different team heavily funded by the Government ex service men’s schemes.

thanks for that sprot, don't you think people in this position should be treated as medical patients rather than criminals? keep them alive until they get off their particular habit?

Sprotyrover

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #94 on November 12, 2023, 08:45:58 pm by Sprotyrover »
I'd like more info from our cub reporter, who were they and what were their circumstances, did they have medical conditions, were they victims of traumatic incidents etc, how many of them were there? did they go around in a group as described? did you follow them all day sprot or is the information second hand?
The Charity M25 ran the Union street site the Manager was Jim Steicke , the other facillities I worked with where the Organisation that now is called OPEN HOUSE, Doncaster NHS Drug Treatment services, and the Town centre CCTV unit (There’s a big clue for you there)
Most of The people I observed were long term Heroin addicts, who funded their habit by petty Crime, mainly Shoplifting and Breaking into Cars. When the shops shut they would make their way into Hexthorpe, Hyde Park and Wheatley were they would target the vulnerable 2 up 2 down Terraced housing, most of them had been kicked out by their parents who had tolerated their thieving until the day they stole the TV set, that was usually the straw that broke the Camels back. I managed to get 3 or 4 back into society but most were not interested and were happy with their lifestyle. No ex Services, when I worked in the Prisons the ex Service men. Were really heavily outreached and offered tons of support.that was a different team heavily funded by the Government ex service men’s schemes.

thanks for that sprot, don't you think people in this position should be treated as medical patients rather than criminals? keep them alive until they get off their particular habit?
My own thoughts are that we should de criminalise drugs and given them the stuff on prescription, the Drug barons won't be happy but heigh ho!

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #95 on November 12, 2023, 09:21:03 pm by drfchound »
I'd like more info from our cub reporter, who were they and what were their circumstances, did they have medical conditions, were they victims of traumatic incidents etc, how many of them were there? did they go around in a group as described? did you follow them all day sprot or is the information second hand?
The Charity M25 ran the Union street site the Manager was Jim Steicke , the other facillities I worked with where the Organisation that now is called OPEN HOUSE, Doncaster NHS Drug Treatment services, and the Town centre CCTV unit (There’s a big clue for you there)
Most of The people I observed were long term Heroin addicts, who funded their habit by petty Crime, mainly Shoplifting and Breaking into Cars. When the shops shut they would make their way into Hexthorpe, Hyde Park and Wheatley were they would target the vulnerable 2 up 2 down Terraced housing, most of them had been kicked out by their parents who had tolerated their thieving until the day they stole the TV set, that was usually the straw that broke the Camels back. I managed to get 3 or 4 back into society but most were not interested and were happy with their lifestyle. No ex Services, when I worked in the Prisons the ex Service men. Were really heavily outreached and offered tons of support.that was a different team heavily funded by the Government ex service men’s schemes.

thanks for that sprot, don't you think people in this position should be treated as medical patients rather than criminals? keep them alive until they get off their particular habit?

I wonder what the people who were getting robbed thought.
Shoplifting is in epidemic proportions and costs businesses thousands of pounds and leads to job losses.

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #96 on November 12, 2023, 10:31:09 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
My own thoughts are that we should de criminalise drugs and given them the stuff on prescription, the Drug barons won't be happy but heigh ho!

I'm sure the drug lords will love the British Government driving down the prices of the growers when they buy the stuff they'll smuggle into every other country.

SydneyRover

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #97 on November 13, 2023, 01:17:00 am by SydneyRover »
The Coop boss has has plenty to say about retail crime lately ..................... aye?

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #98 on November 13, 2023, 08:40:55 am by BillyStubbsTears »
She's gone. Well done Sunak, finally.

drfchound

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« Reply #99 on November 13, 2023, 08:44:35 am by drfchound »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67376996

How weak is Sunak?

Braverman submitted text to No 10 to approve. Then ignored them and said what she wanted. And Sunak can't fire her.

Mmmm.
Well he has done.

Filo

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« Reply #100 on November 13, 2023, 08:53:21 am by Filo »
She's gone. Well done Sunak, finally.

Get the popcorn out, sit back and watch the Conservative Party eat itself now

drfchound

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« Reply #101 on November 13, 2023, 09:00:09 am by drfchound »
Cameron to replace her?
Speculation on the news this morning.

big fat yorkshire pudding

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #102 on November 13, 2023, 09:07:30 am by big fat yorkshire pudding »
The person most unsuited to a role since Danny Schofield.....

Campsall rover

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #103 on November 13, 2023, 09:08:05 am by Campsall rover »
Cameron to replace her?
Speculation on the news this morning.
Think Cameron might get Foreign Secretary job myself hound.
I could be wrong as I usually am.  ;)

SydneyRover

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #104 on November 13, 2023, 09:09:17 am by SydneyRover »
the government is through the barrel and scraping the cellar floor

MachoMadness

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #105 on November 13, 2023, 09:11:11 am by MachoMadness »
Can't believe the woke left have cancelled her, just because she incited a gang of coked-up racists to attack the Cenotaph on Armistice Day.

mugnapper

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« Reply #106 on November 13, 2023, 09:12:05 am by mugnapper »
I wonder when we’ll get her letter slagging Richy off?
That’ll get the Tories fighting in their Gentleman’s (sic) clubs.
But do you get to write a bitter resignation letter if you’ve been sacked?
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big fat yorkshire pudding

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #107 on November 13, 2023, 09:12:43 am by big fat yorkshire pudding »
Cameron to replace her?
Speculation on the news this morning.
Think Cameron might get Foreign Secretary job myself hound.
I could be wrong as I usually am.  ;)

Can he though, he's neither an MP or lord?  I always thought he should have stayed as an MP but he didn't.

Fwiw if he can do it he should he'd be good at it.

Campsall rover

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #108 on November 13, 2023, 09:13:38 am by Campsall rover »
the government is through the barrel and scraping the cellar floor
What’s going on in Australia Sydney ?

Please tell us. What do you think about the Australian government. I am sure everyone would be really interested.

SydneyRover

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #109 on November 13, 2023, 09:14:57 am by SydneyRover »
the government is through the barrel and scraping the cellar floor
What’s going on in Australia Sydney ?

Please tell us. What do you think about the Australian government. I am sure everyone would be really interested.

couldn't be further from the truth CR

drfchound

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« Reply #110 on November 13, 2023, 09:16:03 am by drfchound »
Cameron to replace her?
Speculation on the news this morning.
Think Cameron might get Foreign Secretary job myself hound.
I could be wrong as I usually am.  ;)

Can he though, he's neither an MP or lord?  I always thought he should have stayed as an MP but he didn't.

Fwiw if he can do it he should he'd be good at it.

It’s ok bfyp.
Everyone is aware that the government can change the rules.

Bentley Bullet

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #111 on November 13, 2023, 09:19:07 am by Bentley Bullet »
Cameron to replace her?
Speculation on the news this morning.
Think Cameron might get Foreign Secretary job myself hound.
I could be wrong as I usually am.  ;)
I must admit that I cheat a bit when prophesizing the future. I wait until BST offers his prognosis and then go the other way.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #112 on November 13, 2023, 09:23:26 am by SydneyRover »
Cameron should be trade minister, there's a few deals yet to be done

MachoMadness

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« Reply #113 on November 13, 2023, 10:01:34 am by MachoMadness »
Lord Cameron it is, then. Lock up your pigs!

ncRover

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« Reply #114 on November 13, 2023, 10:07:18 am by ncRover »
Lord Cameron it is, then. Lock up your pigs!

Forgot about the pig story!

 :lol:

Filo

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #115 on November 13, 2023, 11:21:49 am by Filo »
We now have an unelected PM and a Unelected Foreign Sec, dictatorship anyone?

mugnapper

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« Reply #116 on November 13, 2023, 11:22:17 am by mugnapper »
https://www.politico.eu/article/the-smiling-new-face-of-chinas-belt-and-road-program-david-cameron/

Good to have a supporter of the Chinese Government as Foreign Secretary. I bet he's got a state of the art Huawei phone in his grubby paw right now.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #117 on November 13, 2023, 11:29:41 am by SydneyRover »
And of course during leveson

''There was laughter in court 73 of the royal courts of justice when Jay asked Brooks how Cameron would sign off his texts, prompting Lord Justice Leveson to make a rare intervention to ask why this was necessary.

Jay said he was happy to be overruled and withdraw the question. After a pause, Brooks turned to Leveson to ask what his decision was, and the judge instructed her to "answer the question".

"He would sign them off 'DC' in the main. Occasionally, he would sign them off 'LOL', lots of love, until I told him it meant laugh out loud and then he didn't sign them like that any more," Brooks replied''

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/may/11/rebekah-brooks-david-cameron-texts-lol

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #118 on November 13, 2023, 11:30:25 am by Glyn_Wigley »
We now have an unelected PM and a Unelected Foreign Sec, dictatorship anyone?

None of the Cabinet are ever elected to their post..!

Filo

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« Reply #119 on November 13, 2023, 11:34:16 am by Filo »
We now have an unelected PM and a Unelected Foreign Sec, dictatorship anyone?

None of the Cabinet are ever elected to their post..!

I think you know what I mean!

We also have a Foreign Sec that can not be held to account in the House of Commons
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