Israel

[Sprotyrover]

The BBC announced that the Poo enraging BBC a n d White House have confirmed their belief that thee is a Hamas Command centre under the Al Shiffa Hospital!

[Sprotyrover]

So why are the Pro Palestinian media outlets Bleating about the Israeli Army taking control o the Al Shiffa Hospital. Surely it’s a good thing,  edical supplies taken in and they won’t be Israeli Bombs falling in its vicinity, so why are the So called Doctors refusing assistance, what happened to their hypocritatic Oath?

[Bristol Red Rover]

So why are the Pro Palestinian media outlets Bleating about the Israeli Army taking control o the Al Shiffa Hospital. Surely it’s a good thing,  edical supplies taken in and they won’t be Israeli Bombs falling in its vicinity, so why are the So called Doctors refusing assistance, what happened to their hypocritatic Oath?

"so called doctors"
There might be a lot of "so called" going on,  but picking that one is losing the plot completely.

[Bristol Red Rover]

The problem here is if Israel is allowed to go on an unchecked revenge killing spree of civilians in Gaza it will show that the west is no better and it drags us all into the swamp.

Support for the Ukraine will drop like a stone if it did the same as russia which is why putin tries desperately to show that it is.

hamas in the past have used civilians as human shields by allegedly hiding out and using a hospital as their HQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Shifa_Hospital

Wiki has a disproportionately high number of pro israel and zionist editors, including up the hierarchies, just saying.

“The EU condemns the use of hospitals and civilians as human shields by Hamas. Civilians must be allowed to leave the combat zone. These hostilities are severely impacting hospitals and taking a horrific toll on civilians and medical staff. The EU emphasizes that international humanitarian law stipulates that hospitals, medical supplies and civilians inside hospitals must be protected.”

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/11/12/statement-by-the-high-representative-on-behalf-of-the-european-union-on-humanitarian-pauses-in-gaza/

This is also worth a read from 2014. Reports from the United Nations that Hamas stockpile munitions in schools and mosques.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/31/why-hamas-stores-its-weapons-inside-hospitals-mosques-and-schools/

Is it still Zionist conspiracy if the UN and EU say  it - or are the puppeteer Zionist’s pulling the strings there too?

So you agree with my point about wiki?

Assuming that is the over Riding View of the EU and UN, I wonder what they're basing that on? Israeli reports perhaps? At least one Israeli excuse for mass murder in a hospital was based on fake, or thick, reports of a Hamas tunnel next to it. Is the targeting of one Hamas person where many citizens were killed due to human shielding? And if so, is that justified according to UN and other laws of war? It isn't. Is the targeting of ambulances,  of refugees in "safe zones" allowed? The Israeli war crimes are huge. Far more than Hamas.

What's your skin in this game? You seem very hooked into Zionist perspectives.

[Bristol Red Rover]

I mean Piers is Piers, but it's a simple question and answer, baffling he won't say it and many wanted him to be PM....

I think we saw the real Corbyn today , spineless apologist for Terror!

Is he supporting Israel now? He is spineless then.

[normal rules]

Has starmer sacked the 56 yet? Like he said he would?

[MachoMadness]

Has starmer sacked the 56 yet? Like he said he would?

The ones who were on the front bench who hadn't already resigned, yes.

IDF now walking back from its "command centre" claim that was the supposed justification for besieging a hospital. So all those newborn babies who died and couldn't be buried, along with hundreds of other innocents, their corpses left for stray dogs to eat, died so the IDF could potentially access a tunnel - who knows if even that much is true.

[SydneyRover]

Has starmer sacked the 56 yet? Like he said he would?

Back benchers can't be sacked, but you'd know that?

[glosterred]

Someone talking sense

https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1724328272308154751

[Bristol Red Rover]

Someone talking sense

https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1724328272308154751

Which bit was "sense" to you? Or do you think all of it was? What was his overall point?

[Bristol Red Rover]

Has starmer sacked the 56 yet? Like he said he would?

The ones who were on the front bench who hadn't already resigned, yes.

IDF now walking back from its "command centre" claim that was the supposed justification for besieging a hospital. So all those newborn babies who died and couldn't be buried, along with hundreds of other innocents, their corpses left for stray dogs to eat, died so the IDF could potentially access a tunnel - who knows if even that much is true.

I saw a vid made by IDF showing the 8 command centre guns, the command centre laptop and some discs. Going by this, HAMAS must have a few dozen soldiers in total, maybe bio engineered? Waiting on seeing if they also find the real Saddam Hussein clutching a nuclear drone.

[tyke1962]

Someone talking sense

https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1724328272308154751

Which bit was "sense" to you? Or do you think all of it was? What was his overall point?

If you are searching for a point I'll provide you with one that isn't connected to that video .

It goes like this , Hamas attacks Israel and murders 1400 of its people .

Here's the point , the retaliation and offensive will stop when Israel decides to stop because looking at history these past few days on this conflict I've learned  that is how it's gone down in previous wars with Egypt , Syria and Jordan .

If it's existence feels threatened or it's attacked the response is pretty brutal , they killed 15k Egyptians in a single day in 1967 because they thought they were going to be attacked .

Now whilst I agree this isn't exactly pleasant to say the least perhaps it's best not to attack them at all and it's it definitely not a good idea if Israel ends up losing its biggest amount of people since the holocaust as a consequence of said attack .

The bigger point of course is that anybody else wanting a pop at Israel is getting a good look in Gaza at the consequences , the strange thing is , given history what exactly were Hamas expecting ?

[ncRover]

The problem here is if Israel is allowed to go on an unchecked revenge killing spree of civilians in Gaza it will show that the west is no better and it drags us all into the swamp.

Support for the Ukraine will drop like a stone if it did the same as russia which is why putin tries desperately to show that it is.

hamas in the past have used civilians as human shields by allegedly hiding out and using a hospital as their HQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Shifa_Hospital

Wiki has a disproportionately high number of pro israel and zionist editors, including up the hierarchies, just saying.

“The EU condemns the use of hospitals and civilians as human shields by Hamas. Civilians must be allowed to leave the combat zone. These hostilities are severely impacting hospitals and taking a horrific toll on civilians and medical staff. The EU emphasizes that international humanitarian law stipulates that hospitals, medical supplies and civilians inside hospitals must be protected.”

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/11/12/statement-by-the-high-representative-on-behalf-of-the-european-union-on-humanitarian-pauses-in-gaza/

This is also worth a read from 2014. Reports from the United Nations that Hamas stockpile munitions in schools and mosques.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/31/why-hamas-stores-its-weapons-inside-hospitals-mosques-and-schools/

Is it still Zionist conspiracy if the UN and EU say  it - or are the puppeteer Zionist’s pulling the strings there too?

So you agree with my point about wiki?

Assuming that is the over Riding View of the EU and UN, I wonder what they're basing that on? Israeli reports perhaps? At least one Israeli excuse for mass murder in a hospital was based on fake, or thick, reports of a Hamas tunnel next to it. Is the targeting of one Hamas person where many citizens were killed due to human shielding? And if so, is that justified according to UN and other laws of war? It isn't. Is the targeting of ambulances,  of refugees in "safe zones" allowed? The Israeli war crimes are huge. Far more than Hamas.

What's your skin in this game? You seem very hooked into Zionist perspectives.

My skin in the game is wanting to find out the truth as best as I can.

No, Israel are far from perfect in all of this. But you guys have that bit covered.

I’m fed up of going round in circles.

But you carry on making excuses for people who want death to the Jews and death to the West on this and the Ukraine thread if it makes you happy.

Cba

[Bristol Red Rover]

The problem here is if Israel is allowed to go on an unchecked revenge killing spree of civilians in Gaza it will show that the west is no better and it drags us all into the swamp.

Support for the Ukraine will drop like a stone if it did the same as russia which is why putin tries desperately to show that it is.

hamas in the past have used civilians as human shields by allegedly hiding out and using a hospital as their HQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Shifa_Hospital

Wiki has a disproportionately high number of pro israel and zionist editors, including up the hierarchies, just saying.

“The EU condemns the use of hospitals and civilians as human shields by Hamas. Civilians must be allowed to leave the combat zone. These hostilities are severely impacting hospitals and taking a horrific toll on civilians and medical staff. The EU emphasizes that international humanitarian law stipulates that hospitals, medical supplies and civilians inside hospitals must be protected.”

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/11/12/statement-by-the-high-representative-on-behalf-of-the-european-union-on-humanitarian-pauses-in-gaza/

This is also worth a read from 2014. Reports from the United Nations that Hamas stockpile munitions in schools and mosques.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/31/why-hamas-stores-its-weapons-inside-hospitals-mosques-and-schools/

Is it still Zionist conspiracy if the UN and EU say  it - or are the puppeteer Zionist’s pulling the strings there too?

So you agree with my point about wiki?

Assuming that is the over Riding View of the EU and UN, I wonder what they're basing that on? Israeli reports perhaps? At least one Israeli excuse for mass murder in a hospital was based on fake, or thick, reports of a Hamas tunnel next to it. Is the targeting of one Hamas person where many citizens were killed due to human shielding? And if so, is that justified according to UN and other laws of war? It isn't. Is the targeting of ambulances,  of refugees in "safe zones" allowed? The Israeli war crimes are huge. Far more than Hamas.

What's your skin in this game? You seem very hooked into Zionist perspectives.

My skin in the game is wanting to find out the truth as best as I can.

No, Israel are far from perfect in all of this. But you guys have that bit covered.

I’m fed up of going round in circles.

But you carry on making excuses for people who want death to the Jews and death to the West on this and the Ukraine thread if it makes you happy.

Cba

"death to the Jews" - that is misinformation. That is not truth.

Israel is criminally at fault, is that a truth you understand?

[selby]

  In fairness the Israeli's told everyone they were going to turn Palestine into rubble forty odd days ago right at the start of hostilities.
  And we grumble when our government says it is going to do something and Doesn't. 

[Sprotyrover]

  In fairness the Israeli's told everyone they were going to turn Palestine into rubble forty odd days ago right at the start of hostilities.
  And we grumble when our government says it is going to do something and Doesn't. 

Seems the IDF have compiled a 43 Minute long film of ‘Home Movies’ compiled by Hamas on October 7th which shows 129 horrific Murders committed, it has been viewed by the Australian Parliament and Andrew Hatstie has said “evil really did walk on the face of the Earth on October 7th, it has also been seen by the French Parliament who were visibly shaken at the atrocities committed by Hamas! Hastie states that the War will end when Hamas is annihilated or if they choose to return all Hostages and surrender. He was very disingenuous to Apologists for Terror screaming for a Cease fire!

[Bristol Red Rover]

It's not the IDF. There's been a huge amount of paid propaganda on all forms of media pushing the Zionist angle on this. It all minimises and almost all ignores the brutal murdering of Palestinians by Israel. This is the level of extremism that Israeli Jews are pounded with since birth. It's what many countries are bound, literally bound, to regurgitate. It's about as convincing as Nazi propaganda.

[Sprotyrover]

Brr I think you need a check up from Neck up, Israeli Soldiers shooting Dead Palestinian youths firing sling shots at them is abhorrent, but the Israelis haven’t simultaneously raided several thousand homes selected and murdered the Men and women an then turned on the kids! It’s an entire different kettle of fish, if you can’t see the duo you need to see your Doctor!

[ravenrover]

Hey Sproty 2 questions
1 Why would Israeli soldiers shoot dead Palestinians?
2 How do dead Palestinians  fire sling shots?
:-]] only kidding

[wilts rover]

Brr I think you need a check up from Neck up, Israeli Soldiers shooting Dead Palestinian youths firing sling shots at them is abhorrent, but the Israelis haven’t simuy raided several thousand homes selected and murdered the Men and women an then turned on the kids! It’s an entire different kettle of fish, if you can’t see the duo you need to see your Doctor!

Errr, Israel has bombed/shelled tens of thousands of Palestinian homes killing tens of thousands of innocent women and children. Additionally settlers in the West Bank have murdered or expelled hundreds of Palestinian farmers from the homes their families have lived in for centuries.

It's not a doctor you need. It's an optician for the myopia.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Brr I think you need a check up from Neck up, Israeli Soldiers shooting Dead Palestinian youths firing sling shots at them is abhorrent, but the Israelis haven’t simuy raided several thousand homes selected and murdered the Men and women an then turned on the kids! It’s an entire different kettle of fish, if you can’t see the duo you need to see your Doctor!

Lots of totally innocent been murdered by Israel since the start of their occupation of Palestine all the way up to today. That's plain old truth. Not sure what sickness you've been fed?

[tyke1962]

There's a remarkable series that the BBC have pulled from the archives from 1998 and put on iPlayer in 6 hourly parts .

It was made to mark 50 years of the conflict with it's starting point with the creation of Israel in 1948 .

It's education value about this conflict is huge for me personally , to say it's complex is an understatement for many of us .

I was in the past very sceptical about whether the existence of Israel was actually credible but having watched this documentary I'm more than convinced of it's right to exist following the holocaust during WW2 .

How it was created and how that played out with regard to the Palestinians is perhaps something that could have been done better in a perfect world but given everything on the table at that time was probably impossible to do .

Certainly a few eggs had to be broken to create this omelette that's called Israel , the problem was nobody outside of the divide  seemed to know what  that omelette would look like once it was made .

What is clear from the documentary is that once the state of Israel was created there was absolutely no way anybody or anything ever going to  take it away from the Israelis .

They were and  still are prepared to do absolutely anything  it takes to preserve the state they have , if they needed to use a nuclear weapon they wouldn't think twice .

This is a people who for centuries were dispensed all across the world and without a country , a people persecuted for most of it , discriminated against and during WW2 murdered by the millions .

Until you try and walk in those shoes you probably aren't going to understand why things are the way they are today during this present conflict .

There are no rules when a people are fighting for it's very existence as unpleasant as that may well be for the vast majority of people .

There will be no Palestine , there will be no two state solution and only Israel will ever exist and it's fruitless to think otherwise .

Over two million Arabs live in Israel today and they have accepted the state and live side by side with the Jewish population in relative peace .

That's the only solution that will work , give it up Palestinians and accept it , there will be no Palestine .

[SydneyRover]

There's a remarkable series that the BBC have pulled from the archives from 1998 and put on iPlayer in 6 hourly parts .

It was made to mark 50 years of the conflict with it's starting point with the creation of Israel in 1948 .

It's education value about this conflict is huge for me personally , to say it's complex is an understatement for many of us .

I was in the past very sceptical about whether the existence of Israel was actually credible but having watched this documentary I'm more than convinced of it's right to exist following the holocaust during WW2 .

How it was created and how that played out with regard to the Palestinians is perhaps something that could have been done better in a perfect world but given everything on the table at that time was probably impossible to do .

Certainly a few eggs had to be broken to create this omelette that's called Israel , the problem was nobody outside of the divide  seemed to know what  that omelette would look like once it was made .

What is clear from the documentary is that once the state of Israel was created there was absolutely no way anybody or anything ever going to  take it away from the Israelis .

They were and  still are prepared to do absolutely anything  it takes to preserve the state they have , if they needed to use a nuclear weapon they wouldn't think twice .

This is a people who for centuries were dispensed all across the world and without a country , a people persecuted for most of it , discriminated against and during WW2 murdered by the millions .

Until you try and walk in those shoes you probably aren't going to understand why things are the way they are today during this present conflict .

There are no rules when a people are fighting for it's very existence as unpleasant as that may well be for the vast majority of people .

There will be no Palestine , there will be no two state solution and only Israel will ever exist and it's fruitless to think otherwise .

Over two million Arabs live in Israel today and they have accepted the state and live side by side with the Jewish population in relative peace .

That's the only solution that will work , give it up Palestinians and accept it , there will be no Palestine .

and yet, that's exactly what Palestinians are fighting for.

[tyke1962]

There's a remarkable series that the BBC have pulled from the archives from 1998 and put on iPlayer in 6 hourly parts .

It was made to mark 50 years of the conflict with it's starting point with the creation of Israel in 1948 .

It's education value about this conflict is huge for me personally , to say it's complex is an understatement for many of us .

I was in the past very sceptical about whether the existence of Israel was actually credible but having watched this documentary I'm more than convinced of it's right to exist following the holocaust during WW2 .

How it was created and how that played out with regard to the Palestinians is perhaps something that could have been done better in a perfect world but given everything on the table at that time was probably impossible to do .

Certainly a few eggs had to be broken to create this omelette that's called Israel , the problem was nobody outside of the divide  seemed to know what  that omelette would look like once it was made .

What is clear from the documentary is that once the state of Israel was created there was absolutely no way anybody or anything ever going to  take it away from the Israelis .

They were and  still are prepared to do absolutely anything  it takes to preserve the state they have , if they needed to use a nuclear weapon they wouldn't think twice .

This is a people who for centuries were dispensed all across the world and without a country , a people persecuted for most of it , discriminated against and during WW2 murdered by the millions .

Until you try and walk in those shoes you probably aren't going to understand why things are the way they are today during this present conflict .

There are no rules when a people are fighting for it's very existence as unpleasant as that may well be for the vast majority of people .

There will be no Palestine , there will be no two state solution and only Israel will ever exist and it's fruitless to think otherwise .

Over two million Arabs live in Israel today and they have accepted the state and live side by side with the Jewish population in relative peace .

That's the only solution that will work , give it up Palestinians and accept it , there will be no Palestine .

and yet, that's exactly what Palestinians are fighting for.

Only because they insist on attacking the Israelis .

As I stated there are over two million Arabs who live side by side with Jews in Israel in relative peace .

Have a look at the amount of Jews who live in Islamic states or even Gaza .

There are next to none and there were thousands upon thousands before Israel was created .

What that tells us is very clear about tolerance and acceptance of another religion and ideology because Israel was created .

What that tells us is that Jews are accepting of Muslims just so long as they aren't trying to kill them and annihilate Israel .

[tyke1962]

Brr I think you need a check up from Neck up, Israeli Soldiers shooting Dead Palestinian youths firing sling shots at them is abhorrent, but the Israelis haven’t simuy raided several thousand homes selected and murdered the Men and women an then turned on the kids! It’s an entire different kettle of fish, if you can’t see the duo you need to see your Doctor!

Lots of totally innocent been murdered by Israel since the start of their occupation of Palestine all the way up to today. That's plain old truth. Not sure what sickness you've been fed?

 " From The River To The Sea Palestine Will Be Free "

Coded Genocide .

Free of what ?

Let's try Jews .

[glosterred]

Brr I think you need a check up from Neck up, Israeli Soldiers shooting Dead Palestinian youths firing sling shots at them is abhorrent, but the Israelis haven’t simuy raided several thousand homes selected and murdered the Men and women an then turned on the kids! It’s an entire different kettle of fish, if you can’t see the duo you need to see your Doctor!

Lots of totally innocent been murdered by Israel since the start of their occupation of Palestine all the way up to today. That's plain old truth. Not sure what sickness you've been fed?

 " From The River To The Sea Palestine Will Be Free "

Coded Genocide .

Free of what ?

Let's try Jews .

the chant “From the river to the sea” is a translation of the original Arabic chant “from the water to the water, Palestine will remain Arab.” This is a genocidal call to ethnically cleanse the land from all non-Arabs i.e. the Jews.

https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1720594508318916862

[BillyStubbsTears]

There's a remarkable series that the BBC have pulled from the archives from 1998 and put on iPlayer in 6 hourly parts .

It was made to mark 50 years of the conflict with it's starting point with the creation of Israel in 1948 .

It's education value about this conflict is huge for me personally , to say it's complex is an understatement for many of us .

I was in the past very sceptical about whether the existence of Israel was actually credible but having watched this documentary I'm more than convinced of it's right to exist following the holocaust during WW2 .

How it was created and how that played out with regard to the Palestinians is perhaps something that could have been done better in a perfect world but given everything on the table at that time was probably impossible to do .

Certainly a few eggs had to be broken to create this omelette that's called Israel , the problem was nobody outside of the divide  seemed to know what  that omelette would look like once it was made .

What is clear from the documentary is that once the state of Israel was created there was absolutely no way anybody or anything ever going to  take it away from the Israelis .

They were and  still are prepared to do absolutely anything  it takes to preserve the state they have , if they needed to use a nuclear weapon they wouldn't think twice .

This is a people who for centuries were dispensed all across the world and without a country , a people persecuted for most of it , discriminated against and during WW2 murdered by the millions .

Until you try and walk in those shoes you probably aren't going to understand why things are the way they are today during this present conflict .

There are no rules when a people are fighting for it's very existence as unpleasant as that may well be for the vast majority of people .

There will be no Palestine , there will be no two state solution and only Israel will ever exist and it's fruitless to think otherwise .

Over two million Arabs live in Israel today and they have accepted the state and live side by side with the Jewish population in relative peace .

That's the only solution that will work , give it up Palestinians and accept it , there will be no Palestine .

There were many cases of mass displacement of ethnic/cultural groups from one place to another during the massive upheavals of the 20th century.

Something above 15 million Germans moved westwards, from what is now Poland, Hungary, Czechia and Romania, into Germany at the end of WWII.

At the end of WWI, 1.5 million Greeks and Turks were forcibly moved from out of what is now the borders of Turkey and Greece respectively.

Maybe 20 million people were displaced in the partition of India and Pakistan.

Every one of those occurrences caused massive individual and collective suffering and upheaval, both to those moving and to those who had to accommodate new arrivers in "their" land.

Only the case of Israelis moving to the Levant resulted in an organised attempt by surrounding states to destroy the new community by military action. Only in the case of Israel are there still major states and non-state military groups still committed to destroying the presence of the arrivers in "their" land.

None of which is to minimise the crimes of the extreme Israeli nationalists over the past 75 years. But you have to ask why the effects of these horrific mass movements of people in other parts of the world have not led to the same threat to the arrivers as has happened in the case of the Jews.

It's f**king complicated. It can only be resolved by an acceptance that both sides have a right to live there and prosper. Calling back to past "crimes" will mean there will never be a way forward.

PS. That was broadly supporting your post Tyke. Other than that I profoundly disagree that there will be no Palestine. The only way that happens AND there is peace is if the entire Palestine people are eradicated.

The only morally acceptable path to peace is a two state solution, with both sides respecting the others' right to exist.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Brr I think you need a check up from Neck up, Israeli Soldiers shooting Dead Palestinian youths firing sling shots at them is abhorrent, but the Israelis haven’t simuy raided several thousand homes selected and murdered the Men and women an then turned on the kids! It’s an entire different kettle of fish, if you can’t see the duo you need to see your Doctor!

Lots of totally innocent been murdered by Israel since the start of their occupation of Palestine all the way up to today. That's plain old truth. Not sure what sickness you've been fed?

 " From The River To The Sea Palestine Will Be Free "

Coded Genocide .

Free of what ?

Let's try Jews .

Keep consuming that BBC diet.

"Palestine will be free" could well mean Palestine will be free. Free of a Jewish apartheid state perhaps. Inclusive of  Jews, as it was before the psycho foreign Zionists barged in. Israel uses the same phrase, did you know that?

By the way, are you on board with the Labour central office Zionist movement?

[glosterred]

Brr I think you need a check up from Neck up, Israeli Soldiers shooting Dead Palestinian youths firing sling shots at them is abhorrent, but the Israelis haven’t simuy raided several thousand homes selected and murdered the Men and women an then turned on the kids! It’s an entire different kettle of fish, if you can’t see the duo you need to see your Doctor!

Lots of totally innocent been murdered by Israel since the start of their occupation of Palestine all the way up to today. That's plain old truth. Not sure what sickness you've been fed?

 " From The River To The Sea Palestine Will Be Free "

Coded Genocide .

Free of what ?

Let's try Jews .

Keep consuming that BBC diet.

"Palestine will be free" could well mean Palestine will be free. Free of a Jewish apartheid state perhaps. Inclusive of  Jews, as it was before the psycho foreign Zionists barged in. Israel uses the same phrase, did you know that?

By the way, are you on board with the Labour central office Zionist movement?

Sounds to me that you’re a terrorist supporter but it doesn’t come as a surprise seeing your a supporter of the terrorist state of Russia

[tyke1962]

Brr I think you need a check up from Neck up, Israeli Soldiers shooting Dead Palestinian youths firing sling shots at them is abhorrent, but the Israelis haven’t simuy raided several thousand homes selected and murdered the Men and women an then turned on the kids! It’s an entire different kettle of fish, if you can’t see the duo you need to see your Doctor!

Lots of totally innocent been murdered by Israel since the start of their occupation of Palestine all the way up to today. That's plain old truth. Not sure what sickness you've been fed?

 " From The River To The Sea Palestine Will Be Free "

Coded Genocide .

Free of what ?

Let's try Jews .

Keep consuming that BBC diet.

"Palestine will be free" could well mean Palestine will be free. Free of a Jewish apartheid state perhaps. Inclusive of  Jews, as it was before the psycho foreign Zionists barged in. Israel uses the same phrase, did you know that?

By the way, are you on board with the Labour central office Zionist movement?

I'm on board with very little when it comes to the Labour Party .

Now let's examine this apartheid claim you've made and one I possibly shared a few weeks ago .

Would that be the apartheid where two million Arabs live at the side of Jews in relative peace because said Arabs aren't trying to kill Jews or eliminate the state of Israel .

Or are we talking about Palestinians hell bent on killing Jews , driving them out and renaming the country Palestine and from an Israeli perspective need to be contained because they contain a significant threat to the security of Israel .

You could have used terms such as " against the occupation " or " against Israel's policies " but you decided to go full in with apartheid in a South African way much in the same way many use the term Nazis when describing the Israeli government because many know just how that term would find its mark with Jewish people .

The South African apartheid was a deliberate policy to separate white from black , a deliberate policy to deny human rights and any voice to black people on purely the most  racist terms imaginable .

The two aren't even comparable given as I say the two million Arabs who peacefully reside in Israel .

Here's the thing , stop attacking the Jews and murdering them , stop trying to eliminate Israel and the Palestinians will stop getting slaughtered in Gaza .

Accept the state of Israel and all this nastiness goes away in my opinion .

Perhaps living side by side in peace as Israel they might obtain better governments together given Hamas representing the Palestinians and the present Israeli government is probably something both people's could do better .