Shock poll

[ravenrover]

Arrested to stop any crime being done and hadn't actually commited a crime
100+ arrests 90+police injured mmm

[tyke1962]

Couple of things nc, I challenged tyke on the content of his video and the title of it, at that time tyke couldn't produce anything to support his view that it was 'both sides the same' thingy.

The protest march attendance was, in numbers at the bare minimum 300-1, around 300000 to 1000.

The police stated that the vast majority arrested were far-right therefore if you do the numbers if all arrested were Palestinian supporters (say 150) then of those marching that is less than around 0.05%, but possibly around 10% of the far right nut jobs.

There were those in the main march that shouldn't have been there, I have not said otherwise.

Vox pops, to me should always be taken with a large dose of salts unless one can vouch for those doing the editing as we don't know who was selected or otherwise.

The main stream media do not get it correct 100% of the time, but of those that have strict journalistic standards they have to be more trustworthy than absolutely anyone in youtube.

I do not condone violence.

I do not condone racism.

Apart from showing you the footage that showed two groups sporadically fighting in Trafalgar Square with one group waving a Palestinian flag .

I also stated that the Met simply looked on and didn't do anything which the footage showed .

That was it .

[scawsby steve]

Couple of things nc, I challenged tyke on the content of his video and the title of it, at that time tyke couldn't produce anything to support his view that it was 'both sides the same' thingy.

The protest march attendance was, in numbers at the bare minimum 300-1, around 300000 to 1000.

The police stated that the vast majority arrested were far-right therefore if you do the numbers if all arrested were Palestinian supporters (say 150) then of those marching that is less than around 0.05%, but possibly around 10% of the far right nut jobs.

There were those in the main march that shouldn't have been there, I have not said otherwise.

Vox pops, to me should always be taken with a large dose of salts unless one can vouch for those doing the editing as we don't know who was selected or otherwise.

The main stream media do not get it correct 100% of the time, but of those that have strict journalistic standards they have to be more trustworthy than absolutely anyone in youtube.

I do not condone violence.

I do not condone racism.

The last time I took "a large dose of salts", I ended up sitting on the crapper all day.

[tyke1962]

If the Republic organisation in the UK had first revealed the Royal Family had some strong ties to Hitler and The Nazi Party would it be less true .

[SydneyRover]

Couple of things nc, I challenged tyke on the content of his video and the title of it, at that time tyke couldn't produce anything to support his view that it was 'both sides the same' thingy.

The protest march attendance was, in numbers at the bare minimum 300-1, around 300000 to 1000.

The police stated that the vast majority arrested were far-right therefore if you do the numbers if all arrested were Palestinian supporters (say 150) then of those marching that is less than around 0.05%, but possibly around 10% of the far right nut jobs.

There were those in the main march that shouldn't have been there, I have not said otherwise.

Vox pops, to me should always be taken with a large dose of salts unless one can vouch for those doing the editing as we don't know who was selected or otherwise.

The main stream media do not get it correct 100% of the time, but of those that have strict journalistic standards they have to be more trustworthy than absolutely anyone in youtube.

I do not condone violence.

I do not condone racism.

The last time I took "a large dose of salts", I ended up sitting on the crapper all day.

Then you would certainly understand the value of vox pops as far as serious polling is concerned Steve.

[DRFC_AjA]

Police posing with a kid dressed as a hammas terrorists

And last night terrorists sympathisers scaling monuments and attacking an elderly couple in a car and more importantly the police saying no law was broken. Batons out for the EDL though.

Does the new foreign sec just want to photocopy bravermans article in the Times

Hate to use the DM as it's a scum rag but naturally you won't find it in most other main stream media

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/12/scotland-yard-apologises-officers-child-pro-palestinian/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12756085/Pro-Palestine-protest-chaos-breaks-amid-vote-Parliament-Gaza.html

[Glyn_Wigley]

And last night terrorists sympathisers scaling monuments and attacking an elderly couple in a car

So 'terrorist sympathisers scaling monuments' equates to one man waving a flag on one monument, and people walking past a car equates to the occupants of that car being 'attacked'.

You ought to be writing for the Daily Mail, not quoting them. It's almost like you haven't bothered watching the video in your link.

[Bentley Bullet]

The video showed there were actually two people on the monument and not all the people were walking past the car, some of them were talking to the occupants until they were moved on by the police.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Talking??? Shit, pass round the rubber bullets!!

[Bentley Bullet]

But you said people were just walking past the car when clearly one or two stopped at the car and addressed the occupants.

Perhaps the police heard what they were saying and responded accordingly.

Where were the rubber bullets passed around in the video?

[glosterred]

I find climbing on monuments, irrespective of whether they are war memorials or not very disrespectful, but it ain’t illegal, it should be but it ain’t

[glosterred]

Although further research has highlighted this

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1085767/criminal-damage-memorials-circular.pdf

They may be able to be charged under this law

[Glyn_Wigley]

But you said people were just walking past the car when clearly one or two stopped at the car and addressed the occupants.

Perhaps the police heard what they were saying and responded accordingly.

Where were the rubber bullets passed around in the video?

And last night terrorists sympathisers scaling monuments and attacking an elderly couple in a car

[Bentley Bullet]

 For all we know they may have been getting verbally attacked when the police approached.

[Glyn_Wigley]

For all we know they may have been getting verbally attacked when the police approached.

No, you're getting it wrong there. You mean for all YOU know. Don't assume everybody else is as deliberately and wilfully ignorant as yourself, as usual!

[drfchound]

For all we know they may have been getting verbally attacked when the police approached.

No, you're getting it wrong there. You mean for all YOU know. Don't assume everybody else is as deliberately and wilfully ignorant as yourself, as usual!

Do you know that they weren’t being verbally attacked?
You are making assumptions yourself there.

[Glyn_Wigley]

How about we all assume that the occupants of the car are verbally attacking the protesters? That makes just as much sense and we have exactly the same amount of evidence that it's happening the other way round.

[ncRover]

Couple of things nc, I challenged tyke on the content of his video and the title of it, at that time tyke couldn't produce anything to support his view that it was 'both sides the same' thingy.

The protest march attendance was, in numbers at the bare minimum 300-1, around 300000 to 1000.

The police stated that the vast majority arrested were far-right therefore if you do the numbers if all arrested were Palestinian supporters (say 150) then of those marching that is less than around 0.05%, but possibly around 10% of the far right nut jobs.

There were those in the main march that shouldn't have been there, I have not said otherwise.

Vox pops, to me should always be taken with a large dose of salts unless one can vouch for those doing the editing as we don't know who was selected or otherwise.

The main stream media do not get it correct 100% of the time, but of those that have strict journalistic standards they have to be more trustworthy than absolutely anyone in youtube.

I do not condone violence.

I do not condone racism.

Politics Joe did a similar style of video, which is quite good too. Asking real people what they thought of Suella Braverman.

https://youtu.be/MQInlHZBi4M?si=RQcEy-b8LdpecMRh

Would you take this with a pinch of salt too?

[ncRover]

A speaker at the Palestine Solidarity Campaign congregation last night referred to Gaza as the “largest concentration camp ever known in our modern day history”.

[glosterred]

A speaker at the Palestine Solidarity Campaign congregation last night referred to Gaza as the “largest concentration camp ever known in our modern day history”.

Looks every bit like a concentration camp

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1724096919943672100

[BillyStubbsTears]

A speaker at the Palestine Solidarity Campaign congregation last night referred to Gaza as the “largest concentration camp ever known in our modern day history”.

Looks every bit like a concentration camp

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1724096919943672100

What a silly thing to base your assessment of Gaza on.

In 1970, Denaby and Harrogate were both in the West Riding.

If someone had made a film about the wealthier suburbs of Harrogate, does that mean that Denaby Backs didn't exist?

Most of the Gaza Strip, before this current war, was occupied by overcrowded slums. They had one of the poorest economies, highest population densities and shortest life expectancies in the whole of Eurasia. The fact that there might have been some wealthy people owning some beautiful spots doesn't change that.

[Bentley Bullet]

For all we know they may have been getting verbally attacked when the police approached.

No, you're getting it wrong there. You mean for all YOU know. Don't assume everybody else is as deliberately and wilfully ignorant as yourself, as usual!

OK then For all YOU know they may have been getting verbally attacked when the police approached.

[Bristol Red Rover]

That vid of Gove is he walking on the road, in the match, not on the pavement? Seems more than likely he is looking for a reaction, one that he doesn't get.

"Shame on you" - too right.

[SydneyRover]

Couple of things nc, I challenged tyke on the content of his video and the title of it, at that time tyke couldn't produce anything to support his view that it was 'both sides the same' thingy.

The protest march attendance was, in numbers at the bare minimum 300-1, around 300000 to 1000.

The police stated that the vast majority arrested were far-right therefore if you do the numbers if all arrested were Palestinian supporters (say 150) then of those marching that is less than around 0.05%, but possibly around 10% of the far right nut jobs.

There were those in the main march that shouldn't have been there, I have not said otherwise.

Vox pops, to me should always be taken with a large dose of salts unless one can vouch for those doing the editing as we don't know who was selected or otherwise.

The main stream media do not get it correct 100% of the time, but of those that have strict journalistic standards they have to be more trustworthy than absolutely anyone in youtube.

I do not condone violence.

I do not condone racism.

Politics Joe did a similar style of video, which is quite good too. Asking real people what they thought of Suella Braverman.

https://youtu.be/MQInlHZBi4M?si=RQcEy-b8LdpecMRh

Would you take this with a pinch of salt too?

vox pops, it still tells you nothing of the numbers of people across the country with the same thoughts nc, see them as a bit of political entertainment.

What about the rest of my comment?

[Glyn_Wigley]

For all we know they may have been getting verbally attacked when the police approached.

No, you're getting it wrong there. You mean for all YOU know. Don't assume everybody else is as deliberately and wilfully ignorant as yourself, as usual!

OK then For all YOU know they may have been getting verbally attacked when the police approached.

If nobody can tell anything one way or the other, it's not very good evidence of any attack of any kind by anyone having taken place. Which is why I call bullshit on it. As a self-confessed bullshitter yourself I presume you'll appreciate why I call it as such.

[Bentley Bullet]

You said people were just walking by, but in reality, one or two people stopped to talk to the occupants. Do you now concede that that is the truth?



 

[ncRover]

Couple of things nc, I challenged tyke on the content of his video and the title of it, at that time tyke couldn't produce anything to support his view that it was 'both sides the same' thingy.

The protest march attendance was, in numbers at the bare minimum 300-1, around 300000 to 1000.

The police stated that the vast majority arrested were far-right therefore if you do the numbers if all arrested were Palestinian supporters (say 150) then of those marching that is less than around 0.05%, but possibly around 10% of the far right nut jobs.

There were those in the main march that shouldn't have been there, I have not said otherwise.

Vox pops, to me should always be taken with a large dose of salts unless one can vouch for those doing the editing as we don't know who was selected or otherwise.

The main stream media do not get it correct 100% of the time, but of those that have strict journalistic standards they have to be more trustworthy than absolutely anyone in youtube.

I do not condone violence.

I do not condone racism.

Politics Joe did a similar style of video, which is quite good too. Asking real people what they thought of Suella Braverman.

https://youtu.be/MQInlHZBi4M?si=RQcEy-b8LdpecMRh

Would you take this with a pinch of salt too?

vox pops, it still tells you nothing of the numbers of people across the country with the same thoughts nc, see them as a bit of political entertainment.

What about the rest of my comment?

That’s fair enough Sydney.

The rest of your comment wasn’t really relevant to my comment you replied to so I left it at that.

[SydneyRover]

I used the number to show the vast majority 99.95+ of pro-Palestinians marchers were well behaved

[Glyn_Wigley]

You said people were just walking by, but in reality, one or two people stopped to talk to the occupants. Do you now concede that that is the truth?



 

I will if you'll concede that they - as you say - just stopped to talk and didn't attack them in any way.

[Bentley Bullet]

I never said they did anything other than stop to talk to them! What I did say is, for all we know, the people in the car may have been getting verbally attacked when the police approached.