Future of the Tory party

[BillyStubbsTears]

Here's a couple of Braverman supporters preaching to the media about how the Big Issue in the country is The Elite oppressing honest, ordinary people.

https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1724528481273299359

Danny Kruger is the son of a property developer and was educated at Eton and Oxford.

Miriam Cates is the daughter of a GP and was educated at Cambridge.

They use the word "Elite" like Braverman uses the word "Woke". It doesn't have any meaning other than to rile up the angry and ill-informed people they want to keep angry and ill-informed.

When the Tories get annihilated next year, here's going to be a hurricane of this sort of shit coming from the people on the Far Right. People who genuinely ARE from "The Elite" sections of our society. Because they have nothing at all to offer anyone, other than division, hatred of The Other and the resulting Culture War.

Buckle up. It's going to be rough.

[Ldr]

It has no future unless it changes, massively. They are now in the same situation as Labour pre SKS.

[Bentley Bullet]

Here's a couple of Braverman supporters preaching to the media about how the Big Issue in the country is The Elite oppressing honest, ordinary people.

https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1724528481273299359

Danny Kruger is the son of a property developer and was educated at Eton and Oxford.

Miriam Cates is the daughter of a GP and was educated at Cambridge.

They use the word "Elite" like Braverman uses the word "Woke". It doesn't have any meaning other than to rile up the angry and ill-informed people they want to keep angry and ill-informed.

When the Tories get annihilated next year, here's going to be a hurricane of this sort of shit coming from the people on the Far Right. People who genuinely ARE from "The Elite" sections of our society. Because they have nothing at all to offer anyone, other than division, hatred of The Other and the resulting Culture War.

Buckle up. It's going to be rough.

Do you mean there are going to be a lot of bad losers stirring the shit relentlessly by objecting to everything the government says and does?

[SydneyRover]

Only if it operates as the current bunch of t***s do aye?

[MachoMadness]

Apparently Team Braverman was going to plot a rebellion if the Rwanda plan was defeated in the courts, to try and force Sunak into leaving the ECHR. The Rwanda plan has just been thrown out, so that hurricane might be starting sooner than expected.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Here's a couple of Braverman supporters preaching to the media about how the Big Issue in the country is The Elite oppressing honest, ordinary people.

https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1724528481273299359

Danny Kruger is the son of a property developer and was educated at Eton and Oxford.

Miriam Cates is the daughter of a GP and was educated at Cambridge.

They use the word "Elite" like Braverman uses the word "Woke". It doesn't have any meaning other than to rile up the angry and ill-informed people they want to keep angry and ill-informed.

When the Tories get annihilated next year, here's going to be a hurricane of this sort of shit coming from the people on the Far Right. People who genuinely ARE from "The Elite" sections of our society. Because they have nothing at all to offer anyone, other than division, hatred of The Other and the resulting Culture War.

Buckle up. It's going to be rough.

Do you mean there are going to be a lot of bad losers stirring the shit relentlessly by objecting to everything the government says and does?

No BB. I'm not saying that. I assume you are able to read?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Talking about the future of the Tory party, I see 30p Lee [1] has today said the Govt should ignore the Supreme Court ruling and send asylum seekers to Rwanda anyway.

Just read that again.

That's a senior politician (yeah...I know...) publicly saying that the Govt should ignore the law of the country and do what it wants to do anyway.

You don't need me to tell you where that path leads.


[1] In fairness, he can't be called "Elite" in any sense, other than the amount he gets paid by GB News for his gobshitery.

[ravenrover]

And No 10 press says he is reflecting the views of his constituents, that'll be his right wing  white supremacy pals then

[Glyn_Wigley]

Here's a couple of Braverman supporters preaching to the media about how the Big Issue in the country is The Elite oppressing honest, ordinary people.

https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1724528481273299359

Danny Kruger is the son of a property developer and was educated at Eton and Oxford.

Miriam Cates is the daughter of a GP and was educated at Cambridge.

They use the word "Elite" like Braverman uses the word "Woke". It doesn't have any meaning other than to rile up the angry and ill-informed people they want to keep angry and ill-informed.

When the Tories get annihilated next year, here's going to be a hurricane of this sort of shit coming from the people on the Far Right. People who genuinely ARE from "The Elite" sections of our society. Because they have nothing at all to offer anyone, other than division, hatred of The Other and the resulting Culture War.

Buckle up. It's going to be rough.

Do you mean there are going to be a lot of bad losers stirring the shit relentlessly by objecting to everything the government says and does?

No, there are going to be a lot of bad losers stirring the shit relentlessly by objecting to everything their own party says and does. Do keep up.

[Bentley Bullet]

Here's a couple of Braverman supporters preaching to the media about how the Big Issue in the country is The Elite oppressing honest, ordinary people.

https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1724528481273299359

Danny Kruger is the son of a property developer and was educated at Eton and Oxford.

Miriam Cates is the daughter of a GP and was educated at Cambridge.

They use the word "Elite" like Braverman uses the word "Woke". It doesn't have any meaning other than to rile up the angry and ill-informed people they want to keep angry and ill-informed.

When the Tories get annihilated next year, here's going to be a hurricane of this sort of shit coming from the people on the Far Right. People who genuinely ARE from "The Elite" sections of our society. Because they have nothing at all to offer anyone, other than division, hatred of The Other and the resulting Culture War.

Buckle up. It's going to be rough.

Do you mean there are going to be a lot of bad losers stirring the shit relentlessly by objecting to everything the government says and does?

No BB. I'm not saying that. I assume you are able to read?

Reading's not usually a problem, thanks Billy Boy, so in that respect, you assume right (for once). I do however have a good perception of future projections as long as I remain neutral and don't allow bias or wishful thinking to corrupt my prognostications. I know this from experience and can use my failings in the PvO as a perfect example, which as a result, makes me rubbish at it.

I suspect that you have similar problems with your political decision-making when comparing the views of your beloved, infallible Labour Party with those of the Conservative Party which you detest, and is always wrong because that is the default state of your mind.

I never thought I'd say this about that drip Starmer, but I really, REALLY can't wait for him to take over, just so I can witness you, and your disciples squirm as you attempt to defend him and his bunch of wet wipes.

[BillyStubbsTears]

You're not really grown up enough for grown up discussions are you BB?

[tyke1962]

I don't actually think the Labour Party are the biggest danger to the future of the Conservative Party , well how could they be ?.

The biggest threat is Reform UK in my opinion in much the same way Farage and UKIP was a decade ago .

They are a party who can take an enormous amount of votes off the Tories and giving Labour or The Dems a walk in with the vote split in many constituencies .

If a game of who can be more right wing breaks out then the Tories are in real bother .

Only a move back towards the centre can make them a threat to Labour which to be honest wouldn't be that difficult .

Labour are going to perform horrendously if they win the next election .

The vast majority of voters only want rid of the Tories as they are now and not many are invested in Keith .

Keith winning a hollow election with an electorate not really on-board as they were with Blair spells trouble and one term in government .

The Tories only have to drain the swamp and move towards the centre and the Labour luvies are gone for another decade .

[Bentley Bullet]

You're not really grown up enough for grown up discussions are you BB?

I’m pretty certain that disciples apart, not many people actually care what you think anymore, including me.

[roverstillidie91]

Consigned to the Dustbin with a bit of luck, especially going forwards

[roverstillidie91]

I don't actually think the Labour Party are the biggest danger to the future of the Conservative Party , well how could they be ?.

The biggest threat is Reform UK in my opinion in much the same way Farage and UKIP was a decade ago .

They are a party who can take an enormous amount of votes off the Tories and giving Labour or The Dems a walk in with the vote split in many constituencies .

If a game of who can be more right wing breaks out then the Tories are in real bother .

Only a move back towards the centre can make them a threat to Labour which to be honest wouldn't be that difficult .

Labour are going to perform horrendously if they win the next election .

The vast majority of voters only want rid of the Tories as they are now and not many are invested in Keith .

Keith winning a hollow election with an electorate not really on-board as they were with Blair spells trouble and one term in government .

The Tories only have to drain the swamp and move towards the centre and the Labour luvies are gone for another decade .

I'm pretty certain Labour won't get a majority, which will be all their own fault.

Being blindsided to where they originated from.

The trade union movement.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I don't actually think the Labour Party are the biggest danger to the future of the Conservative Party , well how could they be ?.

The biggest threat is Reform UK in my opinion in much the same way Farage and UKIP was a decade ago .

They are a party who can take an enormous amount of votes off the Tories and giving Labour or The Dems a walk in with the vote split in many constituencies .

If a game of who can be more right wing breaks out then the Tories are in real bother .

Only a move back towards the centre can make them a threat to Labour which to be honest wouldn't be that difficult .

Labour are going to perform horrendously if they win the next election .

The vast majority of voters only want rid of the Tories as they are now and not many are invested in Keith .

Keith winning a hollow election with an electorate not really on-board as they were with Blair spells trouble and one term in government .

The Tories only have to drain the swamp and move towards the centre and the Labour luvies are gone for another decade .

I'm pretty certain Labour won't get a majority, which will be all their own fault.

Being blindsided to where they originated from.

The trade union movement.

Then you can make a fortune betting against them. 4/1 against there being an overall majority after the election.

Personally, I will be surprised if Labour has less than a 100 seat majority.

Not because Labour is making the running. They aren't. Opposition's rarely do.

It's because the Tories are tailspinning into the sort of absolute cluster f**k that you only see once every generation or so. Where a major party tears itself apart AND looks utterly inept on the day to day stuff as well.

It's happened four times before in the past century or so.

The Liberals after WWI, who were split between the Asquith and Lloyd George factions and led the country into a horrific recession.

The Labour party in 1931, when the leader and PM Ramsay MacDonald joined the Tory party.

Labour in the late 70s, that tore itself apart between the Bennites and the centrists over Europe.

The Tories under Major that went into civil war over Europe, had the disaster of Black Wednesday and Sleaze and couldn't come up with anything better than the cones hotline.

Each time, that party was out of power for at least a decade. And I'm not sure any of them were quite as split and incompetent as this bunch.

All an Opposition has to do in those circumstances is to look organised and professional.

[drfchound]

Labour had a 20 point lead in the polls (I kept reading about it on here) a few months ago but despite all the things that the government has got wrong since that came to light, the lead hasn’t changed much at all.
I wonder why that is?

[drfchound]

I don't actually think the Labour Party are the biggest danger to the future of the Conservative Party , well how could they be ?.

The biggest threat is Reform UK in my opinion in much the same way Farage and UKIP was a decade ago .

They are a party who can take an enormous amount of votes off the Tories and giving Labour or The Dems a walk in with the vote split in many constituencies .

If a game of who can be more right wing breaks out then the Tories are in real bother .

Only a move back towards the centre can make them a threat to Labour which to be honest wouldn't be that difficult .

Labour are going to perform horrendously if they win the next election .

The vast majority of voters only want rid of the Tories as they are now and not many are invested in Keith .

Keith winning a hollow election with an electorate not really on-board as they were with Blair spells trouble and one term in government .

The Tories only have to drain the swamp and move towards the centre and the Labour luvies are gone for another decade .

I'm pretty certain Labour won't get a majority, which will be all their own fault.

Being blindsided to where they originated from.

The trade union movement.

Then you can make a fortune betting against them. 4/1 against there being an overall majority after the election.

Personally, I will be surprised if Labour has less than a 100 seat majority.

Not because Labour is making the running. They aren't. Opposition's rarely do.

It's because the Tories are tailspinning into the sort of absolute cluster f**k that you only see once every generation or so. Where a major party tears itself apart AND looks utterly inept on the day to day stuff as well.

It's happened four times before in the past century or so.

The Liberals after WWI, who were split between the Asquith and Lloyd George factions and led the country into a horrific recession.

The Labour party in 1931, when the leader and PM Ramsay MacDonald joined the Tory party.

Labour in the late 70s, that tore itself apart between the Bennites and the centrists over Europe.

The Tories under Major that went into civil war over Europe, had the disaster of Black Wednesday and Sleaze and couldn't come up with anything better than the cones hotline.

Each time, that party was out of power for at least a decade. And I'm not sure any of them were quite as split and incompetent as this bunch.

All an Opposition has to do in those circumstances is to look organised and professional.

You missed off the 2019 fiasco bst.

[tyke1962]

Labour had a 20 point lead in the polls (I kept reading about it on here) a few months ago but despite all the things that the government has got wrong since that came to light, the lead hasn’t changed much at all.
I wonder why that is?

The lead might increase from tonight Hound because the awful Jess Phillips has just done one following the ceasefire vote .

[drfchound]

Labour had a 20 point lead in the polls (I kept reading about it on here) a few months ago but despite all the things that the government has got wrong since that came to light, the lead hasn’t changed much at all.
I wonder why that is?

The lead might increase from tonight Hound because the awful Jess Phillips has just done one following the ceasefire vote .

It should have been increasing like mad already tyke given the annihilation that is coming the Tory’s way (apparently) in the GE.

[SydneyRover]

What is the treatment for jaundice in babies, does anyone know?

[drfchound]

The wheels on the bus go round and round…..

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Labour had a 20 point lead in the polls (I kept reading about it on here) a few months ago but despite all the things that the government has got wrong since that came to light, the lead hasn’t changed much at all.
I wonder why that is?

The lead might increase from tonight Hound because the awful Jess Phillips has just done one following the ceasefire vote .

The level to which both leaders can balance the wings of their party is fascinating. Intrigued to see how both get on.  It will be more challenging for both as election approaches and policies are committed.

[Bentley Bullet]

What is the treatment for jaundice in babies, does anyone know?

Get your mummy to call the flying doctors.

[SydneyRover]

Apparently Team Braverman was going to plot a rebellion if the Rwanda plan was defeated in the courts, to try and force Sunak into leaving the ECHR. The Rwanda plan has just been thrown out, so that hurricane might be starting sooner than expected.

It's looking like risky may try and legislate to make Rwanda a nice safe country

[drfchound]

Labour had a 20 point lead in the polls (I kept reading about it on here) a few months ago but despite all the things that the government has got wrong since that came to light, the lead hasn’t changed much at all.
I wonder why that is?

The lead might increase from tonight Hound because the awful Jess Phillips has just done one following the ceasefire vote .

I’m surprised that no one else has mentioned that episode on here tonight Tyke.
Again, I wonder why not?

[scawsby steve]

It's not just Jess Phillips, several others have joined her.

Could spell trouble for Keith, this.

[Bentley Bullet]

What a clusterf**k.

[tyke1962]

It's not just Jess Phillips, several others have joined her.

Could spell trouble for Keith, this.

8 front benchers have all resigned in total .

I blame the left myself 

[SydneyRover]

What is the treatment for jaundice in babies, does anyone know?

Get your mummy to call the flying doctors.

thanks kiddies, confirmation accepted